Tilt 2 vs Touch pro 2 - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Ok, So I know the tp 2 and tilt 2 are pretty much the same but i discovered that the hard keyboard layout are different the tilt 2 does not have the number on the top row as well as the fun key is a little different.
So of course I learned this but installing a Energy Leo Rom which is made for tp2.
So my question is, is there any roms out there made for Tilt 2 or is there a hack or anything to change the key layout so i can use the correct buttons for the correct letter?
Thanks,

Ok I found it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=621917&highlight=tilt+keyboard
Theres a cab that seemed to worked yay

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AT&T Tilt 2 Keyboard???

Hi There-
Well, I managed to get one of the ROMs to install on the new Tilt 2 from AT&T but I have a small problem. I can't find a cab to fix the keyboard mapping problem. I found one for the tmobile version but no luck fixing the problem. So, I figured I would just flash back to the original ROM and wait for some folks to modify their ROMs to work with the Tilt 2 but now I can't find that either. Am I just not finding it in my searches or is it just not here yet.... any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Titl 2's just started landing in people's hands today. It's going to be a few more days until there is a cab released to fix it.
beufford12 said:
Hi There-
Well, I managed to get one of the ROMs to install on the new Tilt 2 from AT&T but I have a small problem. I can't find a cab to fix the keyboard mapping problem. I found one for the tmobile version but no luck fixing the problem. So, I figured I would just flash back to the original ROM and wait for some folks to modify their ROMs to work with the Tilt 2 but now I can't find that either. Am I just not finding it in my searches or is it just not here yet.... any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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How much is the keyboard screwed up? Is it still somewhat usable?
GermanGuy said:
How much is the keyboard screwed up? Is it still somewhat usable?
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It's not too bad, its in the format of the regular tp2. number keys on the top row and all that. Kind of nice to have actually,if I can memorize the keys quick enough I might leave it that way
I agree that it is kind of messed up. I bought a t-mo version, and I plan to sim unlock it and use it on att. I freaking LOVE this keyboard! I actually thought about checking eventually at htc part replacement stores to buy a stock keyboard, and physically changing the keyboard when I sell this one one and pick up a tilt2 (only b/c the t-mo can't pick up the att 3g frequencies).
Good luck finding your KB fix!
Jason
Toleraen said:
It's not too bad, its in the format of the regular tp2. number keys on the top row and all that. Kind of nice to have actually,if I can memorize the keys quick enough I might leave it that way
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Dude, the finger keyboard is good enough to last me a few days until one of the wizards on this board comes up with the registry update. I am so happy with this phone so far it's crazy. The improvements to Office alone are awesome.
EDIT:
CONFIRMED TO WORK.
it's usually as simple as a registry setting:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\
CWSLayout=1
LayoutID=502
update: scockman found one more key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9\IME\Keyboard LayoutFiles
07FF=eT9.Rhodium.Cingular_US.kmap.txt
if that doesn't work, I guess I'll have to play with it more when I actually get around to flashing my Tilt 2
Flash back to original ROM, export the keyboard settings using totalcommander or phm reg, then flash to custom rom, and import keyb settings.
i'm about to attach my .reg files from my stock tilt 2 rom. someone who has flashed their tilt 2 install them then soft reset and let us know what happens. also you might want to backup your HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\ just to be on the safe side.
attachment below
noggind614 said:
i'm about to attach my .reg files from my stock tilt 2 rom. someone who has flashed their tilt 2 install them then soft reset and let us know what happens. also you might want to backup your HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\ just to be on the safe side.
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Did not seem to work...will keep trying various combinations
l3it3r said:
it's usually as simple as a registry setting:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\
CWSLayout=1
LayoutID=502
if that doesn't work, I guess I'll have to play with it more when I actually get around to flashing my Tilt 2
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Woo Hoo!! That fixed my issue, these were missing from the ROM that I was using "EnergyROM".
There is one other registry that everyone may be missing that needs to be set:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9\IME\KeyboardLayoutFiles
07FF=eT9.Rhodium.Cingular_US.kmap.txt
After these were set I did a reset and everything is working.
Do you mind if i ask how did you get a tilt 2? I checked the att site and it is only showing on the business side called att and they said its not availalbe yet?
thks
J
I'm an AT&T Dealer and placed an order for 1 and got it. The dealers that order 20-50 won't get their's for a while because there is not enough to go around.
* I'm currently using the energy rom and the keyboard is off somewhat like the original tilt was when it came out. The number keys are off and most of the top row keys as well. Someone suggested to flash back to the original ROM but silly me didn't back it up. I assumed it would be here. I think I'm just a little too much ahead. I will; however, try the registry fix and see if it fixes my problem. Thanks for all of the help guys...
I guess I am a little confused as to "what" actually fixed your layout problem? Did you have to put ALL of those registry entries in or just the ones you added to the message? Anyway someone could put that in a .cab?
thanks!
Tilt2 KB reg edits - mostly good
I can confirm that:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\
CWSLayout=1
LayoutID=502
helps...the OK key and others along bottom row are still not right but at least the FN and Caps are back to normal (using energyRom). an edit of the Cingular_US.txt should help. I'll try that in a bit.
Using Adv Config to set Cingular keyboard doesn't work...had to reg edit to use Cingular_US as indicated above.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9\IME\Keyboard LayoutFiles
07FF=eT9.Rhodium.Cingular_US.kmap.txt
I, too, wish i had saved Tilt2 keymap reg before my first flash.
Remember, takes both steps to get Tilt2 KB to 'normal'
Hey guys,
moved ya over to general...
peace,
Josh
beufford12 said:
I guess I am a little confused as to "what" actually fixed your layout problem? Did you have to put ALL of those registry entries in or just the ones you added to the message? Anyway someone could put that in a .cab?
thanks!
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Ditto can someone cab it up so I can continue to be lazy. Thanks
fire up Total commander, hit up the plugins --> registry, and then follow the structure to the specified containers. edit or add as needed.
I guess I'm confused because I can't seem to get the registry entries to work properly!
beufford12 said:
I guess I'm confused because I can't seem to get the registry entries to work properly!
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Here are all the relevant entries. Import them into your registry and reset.
Dot fred's registry editor makes it easier to just click and add registry settings.
And while I am at it, I attached the file to make hardSPL easy to run as well.

Tilt 2 keyboard help please!!

I installed the Energy 23016 ROM and I noticed that my keyboard layout is completely different for the physical keyboard!!
It thinks the physical keyboard is like the stock TP2 w/the number row on top!
Is there a cab that lets me reassign it so that it functions like the Tilt 2 keyboard?
Ky772 said:
I installed the Energy 23016 ROM and I noticed that my keyboard layout is completely different for the physical keyboard!!
It thinks the physical keyboard is like the stock TP2 w/the number row on top!
Is there a cab that lets me reassign it so that it functions like the Tilt 2 keyboard?
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It's been discussed a few times on here. I would start with the thread that you found the ROM in. I believe that he includes it in there.
Ky772 said:
I installed the Energy 23016 ROM and I noticed that my keyboard layout is completely different for the physical keyboard!!
It thinks the physical keyboard is like the stock TP2 w/the number row on top!
Is there a cab that lets me reassign it so that it functions like the Tilt 2 keyboard?
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Have you posted this question in the thread for that ROM?
If you had, you might have been directed to look in the FAQ (Post #6 for Manila 2.1 version) and used the .cab for the ATT phone -- assuming that's what you have (you didn't say)....but they wouldn't have told you as nicely as I did. ...but really, next time you might try to search a little -- at least in the thread where you got the rom.

ATT Tilt2 Full Hardware Keyboard Remap *BOUNTY*

I have tried all three cabs below with zero success! Yes, these cabs remap if that the letters on the hardware keyboard but do nothing for the top row and symbols in blue. I can live without remapping the OK key if thats such a feat but need all other keys at least to be mapped the way they are suppose to be, they way they look on the hardware keyboard. Im sure many other users here will agree with me on this and hopefully others will pitch in as well.
Just looking for a simple cab to install so when i flash a custom rom that i can have FULL use of my hardware keyboard on my att tilt2, no more and no less. I have no knowledge in this stuff or id do it myself rather then provide stickies of a cab that does only half the job!
Since half the keyboard is already remapped, i will start the donation/bounty at $10USD and will add more if this can be done quick. If there's multiple people in on creating this for the community then i will be sure everyone truly involved gets a fair share as well.
Im no techy, just an end user but don't see this task to be complete rocket science.
What the hell !!! The symbols in blue???? Those are controled with the funtion key (FN) on the keyboard.
carhigh said:
What the hell !!! The symbols in blue???? Those are controled with the funtion key (FN) on the keyboard.
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Yes of course they are. Im saying not only to remap the keys in white but also the ones controlled by the FN key, the symbols in blue. I dont believe my description is hard to understand. Simply look at an att tilt2 hardware keyboard, now have it work as it should, thats it! Not asking for anything else, just for all the keys on the hardware keyboard to work as they do when you first turn it on using the stock rom. Need a cab so it will work on custom roms since were not here to run stock roms.
Dont really know how else i can spell it out? Maybe take a picture of the att tilt2 hardware keyboard and post it?
I use the first one you list and all of my Keys work fine on my AT&T Tilt 2.
u921333 said:
I use the first one you list and all of my Keys work fine on my AT&T Tilt 2.
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Are you saying the top row works fine and every blue symbol key in conjuction with the FN key works fine as well? What rom are you running? Makes no sense to me. Making me think i have one bunk device since ive tested this with a fresh flash without installing anything else.
deeznuts said:
Yes of course they are. Im saying not only to remap the keys in white but also the ones controlled by the FN key, the symbols in blue. I dont believe my description is hard to understand. Simply look at an att tilt2 hardware keyboard, now have it work as it should, thats it! Not asking for anything else, just for all the keys on the hardware keyboard to work as they do when you first turn it on using the stock rom. Need a cab so it will work on custom roms since were not here to run stock roms.
Dont really know how else i can spell it out? Maybe take a picture of the att tilt2 hardware keyboard and post it?
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I put that second script, install the cab (MortScript) then run the script file. soft reset and your good.
Some applications are weird and they swap the keys back to the original TP2 settings, but its very rare. It seems to work fine for me other than that. OH and when trying to use the hardware keys when dialing for a phone call its not right.. But I don't really use that anyways.
DuMnUt101 said:
I put that second script, install the cab (MortScript) then run the script file. soft reset and your good.
Some applications are weird and they swap the keys back to the original TP2 settings, but its very rare. It seems to work fine for me other than that. OH and when trying to use the hardware keys when dialing for a phone call its not right.. But I don't really use that anyways.
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What rom are u using including build? I used the mort pacakge just as u described after a fresh flash of nrgs latest rom of build 23518 on wm6.5.3 standard sense 2.1 and nothing bro! Only keys that work right for me are the letter keys, comma, period, and question mark. Well FN, shift are also mapped correctly as well. Every key on the top row is numbers 1-0 and the blue symbol keys are all over the place! This is killing me!
No, you dont need to explain. I understood your post and as you can see, i am on a custom rom with the tilt 2 and all my buttons work perfect, except for the OK key. I also use the first cab in your OP. As for dialing, as pointed out by a respose here, have no clue if mine works that way. I use the onscreen dialer.
Something must be wrong with your phone!!!!
Im using NRGZ's Leo Rom the 21885 version from 12/31.... It could be an issue with the 23518 builds. The OK button has never worked but dont really need it. I would try it on a 21885 build and if it doesnt work it sounds like device specific. You also could flash a Stock Rom back on then back to a Custom one sometimes some of the previous system files arent removed correctly I have heard.
I have an att tilt 2 as well, and after flashing any rom other then att my keyboard is all wrong also, mainly the top row, and the Fn keys. Its pretty funny though without a remap, my shift key works as the FN key, and my OK key works as a shift key, which I find funny. But attached is the cab I always have used every time, and every key with the exception of the OK key works, I have tested this 1,000,000 times. If this cab doesnt work (Which I think could be the third cab in your list but not sure), then you have a bad keyboard.
I have used this cab with, the stock EU rom, nrgz roms, valkyrie's roms, Arks roms.
I have remapped my keyboard layout easily by editing the keyboard txt-file....was no big problem....every row is listed in his file, and you can put in whatever letter/symbol you want....
little hijack
Sorry for hijacking the thread a little. I've got a dilemma here, I'm about to change my physical keyboard (in fact the whole casing) for the one that has tilt2 layout (or maybe just the casing leaving the old keyboard untouched). How do you Tilt2 guys manage without the "Ctrl" key?!!!
pjm77 said:
Sorry for hijacking the thread a little. I've got a dilemma here, I'm about to change my physical keyboard (in fact the whole casing) for the one that has tilt2 layout (or maybe just the casing leaving the old keyboard untouched). How do you Tilt2 guys manage without the "Ctrl" key?!!!
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Most people will think you are crazy, most tilt2 people want the standard tp2 keyboard. but to your question: since the ok button doesnt work, I mapped "OK" using keyboard config to be a CTRL button
blowy666 said:
I have remapped my keyboard layout easily by editing the keyboard txt-file....was no big problem....every row is listed in his file, and you can put in whatever letter/symbol you want....
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Is it the ATT keypad.dll? and you just open it with a text editor like notepad or something? I have been searching and it seems like that is what I should be looking for but I just want to make sure. Thanks in advance.
Sorry Deeznuts, but either you aren't explaining it right (which I think you are) or (more likely) there is something wrong. I have a Tilt 2\ATT and the keyboard fix cabs do work in every ROM I have installed. (With the exeption of only about three blue keys like the shortcut to mail or the internet.) There is either something wrong with your device or the ROM that you are using. I suggest you start over with a different ROM to test your keyboard, maybe use a stock ROM to be sure. There is also a prog called Rhodium Keyboard Control (RhodiumKbdControl_GSM.cab) that might be of use. Good luck.
I've been using the Tilt2HWKeyboard.cab and all the symbols and numbers work fine.
OK button does not work, sometimes it launches opera, other times i get error message with something about start.exe
FN+Left arrow (supposed to be calendar) Launches opera
FN+Down arrow (supposed to launch internet browser) does nothing
FN+Right arrow (supposed to turn on wifi) opens up comm manager.
I don't mind that those are off, but would prefer the OK button to work and also PTT button does not work at all.
I'm down to put in $10 as well to get a cab that has the full use of the HW keyboard + PTT button
blowy666 said:
I have remapped my keyboard layout easily by editing the keyboard txt-file....was no big problem....every row is listed in his file, and you can put in whatever letter/symbol you want....
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I was looking at that text files, and it appears to be mapped correctly, but the top row is still messed up for me and the blue function keys are not correct either.
Can you post how you modified the text file please?
Mine works fine. I used instructions from a certain thread. I first installed the Tilt2HWKeyboard cab. I then installed a cab called SdkCerts. Then I installed a cab called RhodiumKbdControl_GSM.
$20 for 1 single step install at&t tilt2 keyboard ALL BUTTONS MUST WORK INCLUDING PTT AND OK BUTTON I DONT CARE IF IS A MORT SCRIPT A CAB OR XML
Hes NOT CRAZY lol
I have the same exact issue. ive tried different cabs to no change except . ? , still sont know where the hell at symbol is... I GOT 10 usd for a working cab or a soloution where every key works as should...besides a stock re flash!
What apps are you running bro? Im running the apr8 nrg rom too. idk! dont make sense to me. but even when i ran stock rom keys would switch to this configuratio noccasionally in txt msging!
i would close all the way out of txt and open it back up and keys back to normal. Im seriously about burned out on hunting fixes for these damned phones, stock and otherwise. Ive owned every HTC w a slide keyboard that att offered since 8125 (wizard)
and played hunt and fix on every single one. seriously, what other product would u pay 400 plus dollars for and then spennd countless hours searching for fixes just to make it work properly

AT&T keyboard fix

does anyone know where I can find a fix for the physical keyboard, I found one for the Tmobile Touch Pro 2, but that has a different keymapping than the tilt 2
thesyntax said:
does anyone know where I can find a fix for the physical keyboard, I found one for the Tmobile Touch Pro 2, but that has a different keymapping than the tilt 2
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Try the first .cab linked here.
I haven't tried it, since I've got a TmoUSA TP2, but it's supposedly the right one for Tilt2.
NIce, thanks man
Did it work for you? I have the actual .CAB if it doesnt work.

keyboard layout after ROM flash

Yesterday I flashed a different ROM to my phone and today as I was sending a text message, I realized the keyboard layout is messed up, the top row of the keyboard now comes up as digits. And my Shift key doesn't work, my FN key is shift, so my FN key does not bring up the special characters. I thought it might of just been the ROM but I just flashed my 3rd ROM for the night and ALL of them did it.
How do I fix this?
Here is a keyboard fix for the Tilt 2
Just install it like any other cab. It will have you reset your device, then the keyboard layout should be correct.
It would help if you tell us which ROM you are using.
The different carrier versions of the TP2 have different keyboard layouts, and it sounds like you have the ATT Tilt2 version. Different cooks approach the keyboard customization differently, and its usually listed in the FAQs for that ROM. For instance, for Energy, you just go to Start>Tools>Carrier Provisioning and select ATT.
Or just use the CAB in the reply above.
hi there, i cooked my own rom from an att rom to my tp2 do any of you guys have the fix for the touch pro 2 from t-mobile.
thanks in advance.
ecuajosh said:
hi there, i cooked my own rom from an att rom to my tp2 do any of you guys have the fix for the touch pro 2 from t-mobile.
thanks in advance.
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You Can Find It Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550559
thanks a lot
Rhod100_uk wwe
Can anyone provide wwe settings for RHOD100_uk hardware keyboard. It worked well in earlier simplicity rom's and Energyrom since last 3 weeks its not ok
dcmedic said:
Here is a keyboard fix for the Tilt 2
Just install it like any other cab. It will have you reset your device, then the keyboard layout should be correct.
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Thhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaank you!

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