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Is there a way to disable GPRS or HSDPA when Wifi is active?

Is there a way that i can either automatically or manually stop GPRS or HSDPA starting if i have an active Wifi connection?
Thanks

keeping pressing the end call button

the situation i refer to is.
I am surfing the net on my home wifi network, then by itself the GPRS starts and takes over the connection (and subsequently the am charged data usage fees). It has happened a few times and am not always aware when or why it switches on. the wifi remains on, but IE just uses GPRS.
Hitting the end call button would not work, becuase i am not on a call.
But if i was to be on a 'wifi' voip call, hitting the end buttton would cancel my voip call.
Surely others may have experienced this?

GLO said:
the situation i refer to is.
I am surfing the net on my home wifi network, then by itself the GPRS starts and takes over the connection (and subsequently the am charged data usage fees). It has happened a few times and am not always aware when or why it switches on. the wifi remains on, but IE just uses GPRS.
Hitting the end call button would not work, becuase i am not on a call.
But if i was to be on a 'wifi' voip call, hitting the end buttton would cancel my voip call.
Surely others may have experienced this?
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I have seen the same behavior. On my Trinity, I have it setup to get emails automatically every 60 minutes. It seems that no matter how I configure my connections, it prefers to use GPRS/3G for email. However, if I am surfing with wifi connected, even if GPRS is also connected, it uses the wifi connection for surfing. I have checked this with a data monitoring program. The only other time the GPRS/3G connects automatically is if the wifi connection is dropped.
edit: There is a program called No Data, which will toggle the data on and off. It could be useful when roaming etc.

The data monitoring program sounds like a good test.
Which one do you recommend and will it be able to differentiate between GPRS and HSDPA, and wifi?
Cheers

Here is something that is interesting!
I was connected via wifi and opened up http://m.youtube.com to see what its like on the P3600i and it loads up Windows Media Player in streaming mode, but Windows Media Player automatically starts up the HSDPA connection to start the streaming!
If i disconnect the HSDPA connection the media player fails.
Thats got to be a classic example of this dilemma!

You could try the Modaco connection tool found here:
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?automodule=downloads&showfile=2292
Although I do get annoyed when windows live instists it connects over GPRS instead of Wifi.

GLO said:
The data monitoring program sounds like a good test.
Which one do you recommend and will it be able to differentiate between GPRS and HSDPA, and wifi?
Cheers
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I am using GPRS Traffic Monitor, it will monitor USB, InfraRed port, GPRS, and MMS. For me, MMS is a per call fee, so I don't monitor that. I monitor only GPRS which includes all data like GPRS/3G/3.5G. It doesn't measure wifi since in principle that should be free for the phone. As I said, auto email fetching seems to always prefer GPRS if it is connected, if GPRS isn't connected it is happy to use the Wifi connection. PIE always takes the wifi if it is connected even if GPRS is connected also. I suppose different programs will have different behavior for connection preference. I have a 50meg limit on my phone provider which is why I monitor the connection. I would definitely check each program to see if it will take the wifi first, especially streaming media

Matterhorn said:
I am using GPRS Traffic Monitor, it will monitor USB, InfraRed port, GPRS, and MMS.
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Do you have a link? There seems to be a handful of matching apps, such as this one but theres no mention of USB, IR etc etc.
I also found GPRS Traffic Monitor 3.2 which looks real good as i would like to monitor 2 different GPRS connections through the Service Provider (such as 3netaccess, 3Services, and X-series data) but i am lead to believe that registration is by a key from the developer http://www.all-locations.com/ but they dont seem to be around anymore.
thanks

GLO said:
Do you have a link? There seems to be a handful of matching apps, such as this one but theres no mention of USB, IR etc etc.
I also found GPRS Traffic Monitor 3.2 which looks real good as i would like to monitor 2 different GPRS connections through the Service Provider (such as 3netaccess, 3Services, and X-series data) but i am lead to believe that registration is by a key from the developer http://www.all-locations.com/ but they dont seem to be around anymore.
thanks
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This is the one that I'm using http://www.efficasoft.com/gprsmonitorppc.html

Matterhorn,
Im trying the GPRS Monitor that you have recommended but is it correct that it only totals the monitored connections, rather than providing individual tallies?.

Choosing WiFi over Data Connection when available - like iphone

Is there an app that chooses your preferred Wifi connection when it's available, like at home, over your Data connection? I know the 3G iPhone has something like this and i'd like to have that happen on my HTC TyTn running CRCs 13.0 Windows 6.1.
Any suggestions?
Cheers

inbanco said:
Is there an app that chooses your preferred Wifi connection when it's available, like at home, over your Data connection? I know the 3G iPhone has something like this and i'd like to have that happen on my HTC TyTn running CRCs 13.0 Windows 6.1.
Any suggestions?
Cheers
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SPB phone suite is one! That's why I use it!

which part of their package does what i want? i've had a look at their site
i don't want all that other stuff that they offer - just the automatic detection of my home WiFi and connection to it - disconnecting my Data connection

inbanco said:
which part of their package does what i want? i've had a look at their site
i don't want all that other stuff that they offer - just the automatic detection of my home WiFi and connection to it - disconnecting my Data connection
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I did say 'spb phone suite'
Edit, not sure if it can be 'automated' you need to select a profile.

Mine works without having Phone suite installed.
When I'm at home I activate my Wifi - open activesync and sync my info. When done I simply close my wifi connection. When I'm on the road I just open activesync and it automatically opens my defauld data connection to sync via GSM / 3G. The process works simply enough.

DeonH said:
Mine works without having Phone suite installed.
When I'm at home I activate my Wifi - open activesync and sync my info. When done I simply close my wifi connection. When I'm on the road I just open activesync and it automatically opens my defauld data connection to sync via GSM / 3G. The process works simply enough.
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I don't like the manual part of how WM uses available Data connections. It should be able to
1. Power on and Connect to a registered WiFi accesspoint when available
2. Connect via GRPS/UMTS/HSDPA... when no registered WiFi AP is present and power off WiFi to save battery power
Nokia phones with S60 (not FP2) operating system do support this function.
See also this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422604

stealth1 said:
I don't like the manual part of how WM uses available Data connections. It should be able to
1. Power on and Connect to a registered WiFi accesspoint when available
2. Connect via GRPS/UMTS/HSDPA... when no registered WiFi AP is present and power off WiFi to save battery power
Nokia phones with S60 (not FP2) operating system do support this function.
See also this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422604
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I have mine set to turn off the wifi if no network is connected in two minutes (wireless network, power settings). Sounds like you want something that will automatically turn on wifi every time you activate your device, instead of manually choosing to turn on wifi.
Before I had the wifi set to turn off, I found that was a pain in the proverbial, as it kept telling me about networks it found that I wasn't interested in connecting to!

WLAN turns on automagically

Hi!
I switched off WLAN through the Comm Manager, but every once in a while it turns on automatically. I want to control this myself, so how do I turn off this behavior?
Robert =

If you have an old(er) version of WMWifiRouter it's known to do this.

relsinga said:
Hi!
I switched off WLAN through the Comm Manager, but every once in a while it turns on automatically. I want to control this myself, so how do I turn off this behavior?
Robert =
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Settings, connections, wifi (untick turn on wifi)
You now control Wifi only using comm manager.

@samsat: the Comm Manager and the Settings one aren't the same? They sure as h*ll look the same...
Well, turned it off through the settings page, now on with CM. Will try if it sticks now. Thanks!

I'm having this same problem... After I disable Wifi, it turns itself back on 5 seconds later.
Obviously some program is doing this, but I can't figure out which one it is.
I have EnergyROM Leo 21885 + 4.49.25.57 Radio, and the only other program that I have installed is AgePhone (and I experience the problem even when AgePhone is not running).
Anyone have any thoughts as to what program might be causing this behavior?
I'm running into conflicts when connected both to Wifi and 3G at the same time, AgePhone is not able to connect to my SIP server, NAT is getting blocked.
Alternatively, is there a way to disable the connection (3G & Edge) to my tmobile and just use wifi? I'd like to have the ability to quickly enable/disable the wifi and tmobile connections so that they don't run concurrently and cause problems for AgePhone.
Thanks!

Internet sharing - keep bluetooth connection alive?

Hi,
with my old device (a XDA rebranded Touch Cruise) the internet sharing had the fine capability of keeping the bluetooth PAN connection alive even when the GPRS/3G connection broke down. It then tried to reestablish the GPRS/3G connection and sooner or later things fixed itself. The internet sharing app on the TP2 seems to disconnect the bluetooth PAN when the GPRS/3G connection goes down, which is quite an annoyance since i have to manually reestablish both connections all the time and this can become quite tiresome on a train ride where connection quality varies greatly within minutes. Does anyone know a registry tweak or something to make the application behave like the old one?
Kind regards,
Kork

TouchPro Wifi loses connection :-(

Hi friends,
I have a terrible problem with my fine TouchPro2.
It constantly loses the wifi-connection. My old TouchPro1 never had these issues.
I have the actual HTC stockROM installed. Tried WiFiMonster - but again. After a few seconds it loses the connection.
Sometimes I'm able to download three, four mails, but then it breaks again :-(
Any idea?

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To be more specific: WiFi goes off after 30 sec. or so. :-(

does wifi turn off? or simply disconnect? if it's disconnecting, first thing i'd do is reboot my router with wifi enabled on the phone and see if the connection improves. if wifi is physically turning off i'd guess it's an issue in the rom. maybe try another rom? and make sure wifi is set to "best performance" on phone.

Is this everywhere or on a specific router?

Does your connection drop after a certain activity (e.g. screen going into standby, opening a specific program, etc.)? Also, have you tried to backup your device and perform a hard reset?

Similar Problems
I've been having similar problems for about two weeks now.
I have tried several things like hard reset, soft reset, changing the rom, playing with the wireless connection and just about everything in the connection folder but no.
I my case, when I turn the wifi connection on through the comm. manager, it slows down the phone while its trying to connect and then it just goes off, leaving me with t-mo data connection. However, when I turn off data connections in comm. manager, it connects to the router and stays connected but it does nothing with the connection. Meaning, I am connected to the router, but somehow I won't be able to use the connections.
If anyone have any suggestion(s), I would greatly appreciated it.

solved...
Thx guys,
I performed a Hardreset and testet one by one the installed software... and found it: I installed a CommManager and it caused the WiFi-Problem :-(
thx

biddle said:
I my case, when I turn the wifi connection on through the comm. manager, it slows down the phone while its trying to connect and then it just goes off, leaving me with t-mo data connection.
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What do you mean "slows down the phone"?
biddle said:
However, when I turn off data connections in comm. manager, it connects to the router and stays connected but it does nothing with the connection. Meaning, I am connected to the router, but somehow I won't be able to use the connections.
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If your wifi connects but you cant get out, check to make sure you don't have the proxy box checked in connection settings. I have seen this box mysteriously become checked in the past.

Just a little comment
I will be getting TP2 very soon, but speaking of WiFi problems in general..
I had 3 phone: TyTN II, Samsung Omnia & iPhone 3g. only the TyTN could connect to WiFi at home while the other two can connect but will not get any data... however, they worked flawlessly in numerous other locations...
the problem was with my linksys router
apparently some older routers not compatible with the newer devices...
just wanted to share

Ok. As of today, it seems to be working, thanks for the help. However, I think it might have been my router. I think it had something to do with overheating because I put my modem on top of it. But the funny part was, everything, with the exception of my phone, was connecting. However, the connection was never really strong or reliable.
Anywho, thanks for the suggestion, even though it didnt really help me, I appreciate the gesture.