Internet sharing - keep bluetooth connection alive? - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Hi,
with my old device (a XDA rebranded Touch Cruise) the internet sharing had the fine capability of keeping the bluetooth PAN connection alive even when the GPRS/3G connection broke down. It then tried to reestablish the GPRS/3G connection and sooner or later things fixed itself. The internet sharing app on the TP2 seems to disconnect the bluetooth PAN when the GPRS/3G connection goes down, which is quite an annoyance since i have to manually reestablish both connections all the time and this can become quite tiresome on a train ride where connection quality varies greatly within minutes. Does anyone know a registry tweak or something to make the application behave like the old one?
Kind regards,
Kork

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WIFI problem on M2000 - plz help

Hi,
maybe something im missing here but i was at a friends house the other day and he has a wireless access point set up (open with no encrption set up yet ...just for testing purposes). so basically he is broadcasting his SSID. I turned my wifi on my m2000 and it picked up his access point and showed me that my phone had connected, with the WIFI signal enabled...however i could not browse or use the net which tells me that i was not picking up an IP address...wats going on here? any clues?
thanks for any help
K
kadabra said:
Hi,
maybe something im missing here but i was at a friends house the other day and he has a wireless access point set up (open with no encrption set up yet ...just for testing purposes). so basically he is broadcasting his SSID. I turned my wifi on my m2000 and it picked up his access point and showed me that my phone had connected, with the WIFI signal enabled...however i could not browse or use the net which tells me that i was not picking up an IP address...wats going on here? any clues?
thanks for any help
K
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if the AP's DHCP sevice is off,you can't get the IP automatically
The DHCP is dodgy on my belkin router, so I have each PC and my BA set up to use a specific IP address, rather than rely on the iffy DHCP.
You may find you need to input a DNS if you do it this way.. just copy one off a working PC
Forgive me if I am talking utter c#$* but if you have established a connection have you not been allocated an IP via DCHP? Just taking a step back from router problems, when setting up the wireless connection did you set up for work or internet profile?
simjo, what you say is prefectly logical, but I have seen cases (as the thread poster was suggesting) where a connection has been created, but no IP addy issued. At these times, no internet access etc is possible. i.e. connection is said to be active, but it is useless.
My solution for this problem was as I posted above, dont bother with DHCP. Set IP addresses manually.
I have a similar problem on a new M2000 (so I'm probably overlooking something)
I can connect my PC and laptop to my router (D-Link 614) on WiFi without any problem
The M2000 can "see" the WiFi but there is no connection
When I try to view pages via GPRS there is no response
When I try MSN Messenger, same again there is no response
I've tried several soft and hard reboots, but no difference
I also find switching the "phone" on is very difficult as I am warned to "The phone is off. Do you want to turn Wireless on"
I then turn Flight Mode on, but am then warned that Orange GPRS cannot connect
I have managed to make some test phone calls, but the menus seem to be taking me round in circles...
Any advice welcome
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still had an issue with audio dropping from incoming calls
If you've seen any of my previous posts you'll see the hell i've been in trying to get anything to work with these ROMS, now it ALL works. and I dont say that lightly!
i tried the last 2 factory ROMS from O2 UK 140.237 & 140.242 which is there latest and I had WIFI nightmares with both of those..
I must have spent 30 hours swapping ROMs and this is the best Ive found so far now. Seamless Wireless Hookup everytime! I have Rude FM 88.2 Streaming Live through my Linksys Router at 64k 44khz using Pocket Music 3.2 , Surfing the Net, even the GPRS is stil enabled with the WIFI signal, a special lead pipes the audio to my Amplifier it's been on all day playing variouse stations, Windows Media Player streaming well, even download Skype over the XDA and installed it.

Is there a way to disable GPRS or HSDPA when Wifi is active?

Is there a way that i can either automatically or manually stop GPRS or HSDPA starting if i have an active Wifi connection?
Thanks
keeping pressing the end call button
the situation i refer to is.
I am surfing the net on my home wifi network, then by itself the GPRS starts and takes over the connection (and subsequently the am charged data usage fees). It has happened a few times and am not always aware when or why it switches on. the wifi remains on, but IE just uses GPRS.
Hitting the end call button would not work, becuase i am not on a call.
But if i was to be on a 'wifi' voip call, hitting the end buttton would cancel my voip call.
Surely others may have experienced this?
GLO said:
the situation i refer to is.
I am surfing the net on my home wifi network, then by itself the GPRS starts and takes over the connection (and subsequently the am charged data usage fees). It has happened a few times and am not always aware when or why it switches on. the wifi remains on, but IE just uses GPRS.
Hitting the end call button would not work, becuase i am not on a call.
But if i was to be on a 'wifi' voip call, hitting the end buttton would cancel my voip call.
Surely others may have experienced this?
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I have seen the same behavior. On my Trinity, I have it setup to get emails automatically every 60 minutes. It seems that no matter how I configure my connections, it prefers to use GPRS/3G for email. However, if I am surfing with wifi connected, even if GPRS is also connected, it uses the wifi connection for surfing. I have checked this with a data monitoring program. The only other time the GPRS/3G connects automatically is if the wifi connection is dropped.
edit: There is a program called No Data, which will toggle the data on and off. It could be useful when roaming etc.
The data monitoring program sounds like a good test.
Which one do you recommend and will it be able to differentiate between GPRS and HSDPA, and wifi?
Cheers
Here is something that is interesting!
I was connected via wifi and opened up http://m.youtube.com to see what its like on the P3600i and it loads up Windows Media Player in streaming mode, but Windows Media Player automatically starts up the HSDPA connection to start the streaming!
If i disconnect the HSDPA connection the media player fails.
Thats got to be a classic example of this dilemma!
You could try the Modaco connection tool found here:
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?automodule=downloads&showfile=2292
Although I do get annoyed when windows live instists it connects over GPRS instead of Wifi.
GLO said:
The data monitoring program sounds like a good test.
Which one do you recommend and will it be able to differentiate between GPRS and HSDPA, and wifi?
Cheers
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I am using GPRS Traffic Monitor, it will monitor USB, InfraRed port, GPRS, and MMS. For me, MMS is a per call fee, so I don't monitor that. I monitor only GPRS which includes all data like GPRS/3G/3.5G. It doesn't measure wifi since in principle that should be free for the phone. As I said, auto email fetching seems to always prefer GPRS if it is connected, if GPRS isn't connected it is happy to use the Wifi connection. PIE always takes the wifi if it is connected even if GPRS is connected also. I suppose different programs will have different behavior for connection preference. I have a 50meg limit on my phone provider which is why I monitor the connection. I would definitely check each program to see if it will take the wifi first, especially streaming media
Matterhorn said:
I am using GPRS Traffic Monitor, it will monitor USB, InfraRed port, GPRS, and MMS.
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Do you have a link? There seems to be a handful of matching apps, such as this one but theres no mention of USB, IR etc etc.
I also found GPRS Traffic Monitor 3.2 which looks real good as i would like to monitor 2 different GPRS connections through the Service Provider (such as 3netaccess, 3Services, and X-series data) but i am lead to believe that registration is by a key from the developer http://www.all-locations.com/ but they dont seem to be around anymore.
thanks
GLO said:
Do you have a link? There seems to be a handful of matching apps, such as this one but theres no mention of USB, IR etc etc.
I also found GPRS Traffic Monitor 3.2 which looks real good as i would like to monitor 2 different GPRS connections through the Service Provider (such as 3netaccess, 3Services, and X-series data) but i am lead to believe that registration is by a key from the developer http://www.all-locations.com/ but they dont seem to be around anymore.
thanks
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This is the one that I'm using http://www.efficasoft.com/gprsmonitorppc.html
Matterhorn,
Im trying the GPRS Monitor that you have recommended but is it correct that it only totals the monitored connections, rather than providing individual tallies?.

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BT - WIFI interfirence
Try this on your Excalibur:
Establish connection with BT headset
Dial voice number
Activate WIFI at the same time
Did you hear any crackling and noise in your BT headset?
i'll try this a bit later when i get the chance, but isn't it common to have some interference if data is transmitting for both since they're both operating on 2.4ghz? also, what headset are you using? bt 1.2 should be better than 1.1
JwY said:
i'll try this a bit later when i get the chance, but isn't it common to have some interference if data is transmitting for both since they're both operating on 2.4ghz? also, what headset are you using? bt 1.2 should be better than 1.1
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Well, I don't have this problem with TyTn.
I've tried Nokia BH 900 and Jabra JX10 - both 2.0
I'm glad i saw this thread. I'm having the same issue. I cannot stream music to my motorola ht820 bluetooth stereo headset if i use wifi. It just keeps stopping and freaks out on me. I was having issues streaming videos to my dash via wifi and using the headset also. I could not stream 100kbps videos over wifi! I thought the phone just wasn't powerful enough. (although it's not.. I could stream 300kbps videos on my old hp 3615 via wifi fine.)
I just was able to stream a video at 300kbps fine without bluetooth turned on using wifi and it worked fine. Grr!!
BT and wifi both use the same frequency.
I think you shoud try an other channel for the wifi. It may solve your problem.
Wifi how do you set IPs/DNS info?
did i over look something i can't figure out how to set IP, DNS and Subnet for my phone. I've gone to every connection screen did i over look something?
Internet via WiFi - Wireless Access Points Only
I am not subscribing to the data service on my cellular net. I only want to be able to access the net and email when I am in range of my WAP at home/work or at my favorite hot spots. I've got the WiFi settings so that I am connecting to my WAP and can see the SSID when it connects.. I've tried adjusting the settings in the IE options and am at the point where once in a while (1 out of 8 or so ) I can open access one page of a web site.. but can not navigate any further. If I type a different URL in it says locating and loading then times out.... what did I miss???
T-Mobile Dash / Re-ROM-ed to Excaliber.
All other functions seem to be OK.
Thanks, XmP
I've seen this as well. Playing around earlier today, I installed Opera Mini. Opera works fine over wifi or edge. I believe that the issue involves one or more IE bugs involving either the size (fragmentation?) of cache and/or scripts.
Also, Opera Mini isn't a solution (yet) either. It works great once installed and launched from the installer - but has to be uninstaller and reinstalled to work after you exit.
I can't wait for a linux port
I run into this problem all the time at my college and at my home. I turn on my wifi and the phone defaults to the network instead of wifi. I am on cingular with the 8125, I was using I/S PL 1.08 i just updated to cingular rom 2.24.10.1 WWE. I have tried IE, Opera, Mozilla (Minimo) and another i forget the name of. In all I preferred Opera but I feel Mozilla will be the best once the bugs are gone.
Oh yah and when I try and connect to the wifi network at my school they require a redirect to login through bluesocket. That is just too difficult for my little wizard and I rarely get through that system.
External antenna jack on Excaliber/Dash... is it just for GSM? or also WiFi?
Anyone had experience with the external antenna jack on the back of the Dash (under the mirror button)? Just wondering if using this connector would improve performance on WiFi? or is it designed only for GSM reception?
I found a cable which fits the connector perfectly. Thanks for your responses.
Issue solved!
I rebooted my wireless router and everything works great...
Bump!
I'm guessing the absence of answers means that the settings cannot be changed (or may need a reg hack to do so) - I can't find them anywhere either...
so it works for an external wifi as well?
yes, it is possible to change these settings (or at least the IP adress). I have read about it, but can't remeber where. It's possible to chnge it somewhere in the registry, can't be changed directly through settings. If I find it, where I read about it, I will post it here ...
As I remember the external is designed for car holder external antenna, not for WiFi. You may find at most of the GSM mobile back also have this.
This was posted over at howardforums too. What, you didn't search the internet endlessly to find an answer?
Above poster is correct, it's for GSM only. Like I said over at HoFo, unless you're lost in the backwoods, I don't think it's going to help much. Plus, it looks a tad silly!
Thanks for all your responses. Yeah, I posted the question in a couple of forums (the level of expertise varies widely, as you know!).
Reason I asked... we want to be able to access realtime weather conditions while at a remote nature facility on a barrier island here on the West Coast of Florida -- you know, like hurricanes There is a weak WiFi signal from an access point about 1/4 mile away. I simply wanted to establish a stronger link by using an external antenna.
So although it might have looked silly, it was to be a quick fix for instant weather updates (like radar), when needed.
Wifi connection sloooow. For you also?
Hi, with my stock htc s620, establishing a connection to a wifi network that is already saved (home & work), takes around 1 to 2 mins.
What often happens also is that it goes to sleep before even connecting (with me waiting in IE or mail to clic on a favorite or do a send & receive action).
I can't understand this since a nokia n80 will take seconds and it's almost instantaneous on my macbook.
Are there any tricks or software that can accelerate this (unless I'm the only one to have this problem)?
Seems to be a problem of your hardware or a configuration problem. I have energy save mode enabled and usually it takes two or three seconds to connect, sometimes up to ten seconds, if it has extremly low WiFi-Signal.
interesting, I'm going to investigate on the software part first... You really think it could be a hardware issue?
What's sure is that once the connection is established, it's fast and doesn't drop.
BTW, do you mean seconds after the handset is waken up from sleep?
Hum, after looking in my Remove section on my handset, nothing appears, is there some kind of registry cleaner for smartphone?

6.1 ROMS Internet Connection Sharing problems?

I have noticed a few people posting about Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) problems with the fantastic new 6.1 ROMS. This is what I discovered:
I was mystified that Internet Sharing was showing as "Connected" on the smartphone but my PC would not get an IP address (some other people report this as getting 0.0.0.0 but that just means that it's not getting an address). Then I realized that my laptop already had an active Internet connection (through WiFi) when I was trying this. So, I disabled my WiFi connection, shut the phone off and then turned it on, and Internet Sharing worked!
I think this is why: I don't remember if this was true in the 6.0 ROMs, but in 6.1, when the phone is connected with the USB cable (and ActiveSync 4.5 is installed) the phone will automatically grab and use the PC's Internet connection. So in this mode if you do any browsing on the phone you are actually using the PC's Internet connection and not the GPRS. So when you try Internet Sharing it creates a "double sharing" problem that keeps you from getting an address on the GPRS network. I think this is a cool feature!
If there is no PC Internet connection then turning on Internet Sharing on the phone works. Now I'm wondering what would happen if I am WiFi connected on the phone. Will Internet Sharing in 6.1 give out the WiFi connection instead of the GPRS connection? Probably not - but it sure would be cool!
Anyway - this is my first post, and here is the signature that I plan to use here:
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Sharing phone's WiFi - not quite
So I tried sharing the phone's WiFi connection to the PC.
I know - why bother? Because it's cool!!! (Actually the phone gets really hot when WiFi is turned on.)
Unfortunately, it seems that Internet Sharing (on the phone) will only try to share the GPRS connection. It doesn't list WiFi in the Connect to... box. But it tries! In fact it gave my PC an address on the WiFi network, but it established the actual connection to the GPRS network. I tried turning the phone functions off but this just causes Internet Sharing to fail completely.
Oh, and a note: Internet Sharing will NOT work properly if you have the phone's WiFi turned on. This is because Internet Sharing will connect to the GPRS network but will give you an address on the WiFi network, which means that none of your traffic will route correctly. At least I think that is what's going on.
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internet sharing implies pc/ppc sharing only right?
phil_white99,
That is very similar to what I am experiencing. I tried this past evening to disable the onboard network connections of my home pc before I attached my Dash. I then attempted internet sharing, and still only got 0.0.0.0s for an IP.
Have you been successful on sharing your Internet connection on multiple computers?
Don
BlueTooth was the problem.
I finally figured out that I could work around the problem by disabling bluetooth in the comm manager when I need to use Internet connection sharing. http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-385825.html was what clued me in to the answer.

Mobile Wi-Fi router stopped working

So I've been using the Tom coding package that installs the mobile Wi-Fi router with no problems until last night... now it keeps trying to connect to ISP.Cingular and then stops... it basically doesn't work now. I've tried to uninstall and reinstalled it dozens of times with no luck.
And yet... the 3G connection works because I can browse through Opera. So...?
OhI might add that I can turn on the Wi-Fi and connect to my in-house router just fine and do what on the internet through the phone. SO... it is definitely something specific with wireless internet sharing.
???
Someone please he me I use internet sharing DAILY
You need to make sure that it is connecting to the correct address. At the bottom of the App, it should have a few different choices of connections to use. Try another one and see if it works. You may have to set up a new connections for this to work properly. Keep in mind that tethering/mobile hotspot is not covered by AT&T's wireless data plan. It is a separate monthly charge. You should be careful when using it too much at a time, so they don't block or throttle your connection.
The device I am trying to connect with to my Tilt 2 is a Samsung Galaxy Tab, and apparently it doesn't like ad-hoc, whatever that is exactly. I was told on the Galaxy Tab section of this forum that this is the case, and that I need some kind of "mobile ap", although again I do not understand what that exactly means. ???
Ah, see that's much better information. So, no, you probably won't be able to connect without another app doing so. Ad-hoc is, simply put, a connection to another device other than a router which is allowing you access to its Internet connection. If the device you're trying to connect with doesn't allow ad-hoc connections, then the Wifi Router app won't do you any good, as that is the type of connection it uses. Most mobile devices do not natively support this, however. The problem, therefore, is with the Galaxy Tab you have, not with the TP2. Find an app or mod that allows for ad-hoc connections and you'll be all set.
Well is there an apparently for the WM phone side of things that will do non ad-hoc??
No. Ad-hoc is a connection between two devices. Unless you use a router, that's how it's going to be no matter if you are using WM, a laptop, iOS, Android, et cetera. The connection type is determined by the device sending the signal. If it comes from a device, then it is ad-hoc. It is not a problem with the software. That is how wifi was designed to work in the first place. The problem, again, is with the Tab, not the WM application.
Well apparently there is a solution for the Tab that allows it to see ad-hoc networks, so I will try that and let you guys know how it went.
Can no longer connect to Ad-Hoc with Tilt 2
I have been using both the CM Internet Sharing program and the WMWifiRouter with no issues for over a year now on my AT&T Tilt 2.
One day a couple weeks ago I had been using CM to connect my laptop to the internet. everything was just fine as usual.
At some point, I had disconnected and tried to reconnect, and since then I can no longer use either of these programs.
What happens is this...I turn them on and the phone will no longer hold a connection to the ad-hoc network that is created. Up in the status bar I see the icon showing WiFi trying to connect but it will not stick anymore.
I can connect to my office and/or home wifi router still. It just will not connect to the ad-hoc network any longer.
This makes no sense to me at all, since it has always worked and was even working earlier in the day when it stopped working.
I use the tethering frequently and really need to get this solved. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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