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ActiveSync via wifi is awsome, but one question remains

I managed to finally figure out how to use activesync without having to use a cradle. So far I haven't had the troubles that I have had when I used the cable and cradle. No more inactive activesync, can't synchronize errors, and having to restart activesync every few hours or so.
I managed to have activesync running for 2 days straight without any problems and restart of any sorts. This leads me to beleive that using wifi with activesync is more stable than using a usb/cradle.
My question is, can I completely abandon the USB/cradle when upgrading ROM, app installs, or anything that has to do with using the cradle and usb cables?

I don't know the answer for certain but I should think so.
What I need to know is how to sync using wifi without it trying to access GPRS instead.
Any ideas?

My 2s is configured to access wifi first (I think the setting is under the wifi config). If wifi isn't available, then it tried to access GPRS. My carrier charges an arm and a leg to use gprs, so I never configure the phone to access my carrier's GPRS. I rely on free public WIFI access and my home WIFI access to do all my internet jobs.

You'll still need the USB for ROM updates; everything else you can do over WiFi or BT.

wifi
Hi nomad,
im trying to configure my laptop wifi (peer-to-peer) and 2s. My 2s can connect to laptop wifi but the activesync is not performing connection or no connection at all. appreciate your help.
thanks.

@3waygeek, Thanks as I have not tried update anything since I pay a service to upgrade my things on my PPC. Sprite also does not like to backup via WiFi. I had to connect the PPC to the cradle.
@hoobas, I have WinXp/Sp2 installed. I have not had any problems connecting other than the occasional ActiveSync annoyance when I'm connecting with the USB cable. I'm sorry that I can't help you. I have not experience your problems so I can not give you a diagnosis.

wifi and MS Activsync
hi nomadman
can u let me know how u set up wifi to sync activesync? i have a WLAN at home and cannot see where the option is to use wifi to sync MS Activesync.
I also want to get away from having to use the cradle each time i want to sync . AT present i am doing it using infrared which is ok but like u said wifi must be better.
Also, i have two machines (a laptop and a desktop) in my wifi network. Desktop is hardwired and laptop hangs off wirelessly. How will my xda IIs know which machine to sync with?
cheers
azeem

ActiveSync starts automiatically on USB, serial, and Bluetooth connections. You'll have to use the ActiveSync link located on your PPC to connect to the PC via WiFi. This is assuming that ActiveSync does work on both your PPC and desktop. So it's best to connect to ActiveSync at least once via cradle before going ActiveSync via WiFi.
Only install ActiveSync on either your lappy or your deskop, but not on both. One limitation with ActiveSync is that you can not use more than two partnerships without some fiddling around with your PPC and your networked PC.

About Cradle ActiveSync.
Uninstall ActiveSync -> Reboot PC -> Reinstall Active Sync 3.8 and don't touch any thing or open any programs while installation is in progress.
Mine is working like a charm

nomadman said:
I managed to finally figure out how to use activesync without having to use a cradle.
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How did you do it?
I've used the search function but I couldn't find anything about it.
Thanks,
Dino

OK, got it to work, too. Very nice
But I had to set my Network Connection from "Internet" to "Work".
Is it possible to use both settings? My Wireless LAN connects also
to the internet, so I won't switch everytime I want to sync or surf.
Dino

Re: wifi
hoobas said:
Hi nomad,
im trying to configure my laptop wifi (peer-to-peer) and 2s. My 2s can connect to laptop wifi but the activesync is not performing connection or no connection at all. appreciate your help.
thanks.
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Hi hoobas, how do you configure your laptap wifi for peer-to-peer? (this is quite off topic ) been trying to do this for sometime. thanks

Here is a great site site that might help some of you guys out.
http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/faqs/activesync/installation.htm#Installation:

hlim,
go to settings, network connections, right click wireless connections, click properties...
tab to wireless networks, click add...
enter your ssid, and click the "ad hoc" at the lower portion of the form...
hope it helps...

hoobas said:
hlim,
go to settings, network connections, right click wireless connections, click properties...
tab to wireless networks, click add...
enter your ssid, and click the "ad hoc" at the lower portion of the form...
hope it helps...
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Thanks a lot how about the settings on the computer side?

Re: wifi and MS Activsync
azeemakhtar said:
hi nomadman
can u let me know how u set up wifi to sync activesync? i have a WLAN at home and cannot see where the option is to use wifi to sync MS Activesync.
I also want to get away from having to use the cradle each time i want to sync . AT present i am doing it using infrared which is ok but like u said wifi must be better.
Also, i have two machines (a laptop and a desktop) in my wifi network. Desktop is hardwired and laptop hangs off wirelessly. How will my xda IIs know which machine to sync with?
cheers
azeem
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In the network settings of yr phone, enter the ip address of machine you want to sync with as WINS server. That will tell yr phone which machine it has to connect to. You can set up peak and offpeak timings in the mobile schedule of activsync on ye PDA, so that it can sync every 10 or 15 mins .

Sorry if my question is too noobish. I have read so many articles talking about establishing wifi sync between a wifi enabled PPC and a wifi enabled PC, but havent been able to do yet. Do i have to have another software to enable the connection ?
Can any one please explain slowly and in detail how you could do that, i've been searching for quite a long time but still no result. And 1 more question is that after i can sync through wifi between my O22s and my laptop, does it affect the wifi connection of my laptop and my O22s? A bit silly right but i'm a new user and i'm not in IT field also. Thanks for any suggestion from you guys.

@azeemakhtar,
http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/faqs/multiplepartnerships.htm
@ducga,
1. Install ActiveSync 3.8 on your lappy or PC, but not on both.
2. connect to activesync via cradle first.
3. remove unit from the cradle and reset.
4. click on the ActiveSync link on your PPC and tap on the Sync button.
* The above procedure should be able to get activesync working via wifi as long as there isn't a setting problem in your router managment or firewall.
* The above precedure should work if your are able to connect to the interent on your PPC via wifi.

nomadman said:
1. Install ActiveSync 3.8 on your lappy or PC, but not on both.
2. connect to activesync via cradle first.
3. remove unit from the cradle and reset.
4. click on the ActiveSync link on your PPC and tap on the Sync button.
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I also have to do the following:
3a. Click Start / settings / connections / Network cards
3b. Select Network Adapters
3c. Change 'My network card connects to' from 'The Internet' change to 'Work'
3d. Close, reset (for luck)
3e. Open ActiveSync on your desktop PC, select File / connection settings / and tick allow Network Ethernet !!
4. Now when you click on the ActiveSync link on your PPC and tap on the Sync button - it won't try to use GPRS to connect and WiFi will be listed as your Work connection.
I always have to change my network card settings back to 'The Internet' before I can browse again.
Rich

Re: wifi and MS Activsync
azeemakhtar said:
i have two machines (a laptop and a desktop) in my wifi network. Desktop is hardwired and laptop hangs off wirelessly. How will my xda IIs know which machine to sync with?
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Go to ActiveSync on your XDA, click tools, options.
It will say "When syncing remotely with a PC Use this PC:"
It should list the network name of the PC you currently have a partnership with. i.e. "TOMSLAPTOP"
Rich

problem with live messenger on wm 6

whenever I want to sign in to msn live messenger, my hermes tries to connect to gprs connection. even when I have free direct access to internet through wifi connection.
I tried everything but it still tries to connect.
Apart from live messenger I can connect to every type of internet service through the active wifi connection.
Is this a bug o the live messenger ?
Is there any newer version that beats this bug ?

I believe that it is a "feature" of WLM that no user actually wants but the network operators are quite happy with and probably had a say in.
Best workaround I know of is to have a network set up with no connections defined, and select that in Settings > Connections tab > Connections > Advanced tab > Select Networks. You may already have a network defined there called "Wifi" (my Orange M3100 did).
If you do that, all apps will be forced through wifi (if enabled), but if you want to use GPRS, you will have to switch the network back.
Anyone know of any apps that will make it quick and easy to change this with a single button click? I hoped that Phoneweaver would have it in the profiles but it doesn't

Disconnect from grps...then sign in to msn... then click cancel when it says "connecting"

unwired4 said:
Disconnect from grps...then sign in to msn... then click cancel when it says "connecting"
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interesting, it works.
but if I reset, then connect to gprs for any other reason.
and then disconnect.
then it never connects to msn with no gprs connection.
after a reset it works again.
thanks for the workaround...

Internet connection method priorities

Hey guys,
I was wondering if anyone knows a way to define a priority on the connection to use based on whats currently available, i.e First go for USB (laptop) if available, if not then WiFi if available, then 3g, gprs etc...
Thanks in advance

umm?
if you're connected to your laptop through Active Sync, i'm pretty sure that automoatically will make your phone use your computers internet.
If Wifi is on, that should automatically take priority over your phone's data service. If it doesn't, just disconnect the data service in the Comm manager.
So yeah, what you want is already an implementation of WM.

htc wifi router installed, now internet not working

I got the htc wifi router working and surfed for a few minutes. I logged out of my PC and back in and the internet wouldnt work on my PC or my phone. I rebooted my phone and still the same problem. Has anyone else run across this problem? How do I fix it/troubleshoot it? 3G is showing it is connected

Has anyone else had this problem? I had to finally do a hard reset/wipe to get things working again.

There's another similar report here, maybe in the cdma area.
I'm not clear on your issue. Is this wmwifi not working after a reboot or Activesync not recognizing after the reboot?
And are you using the latest wmwifi?
edit: I'm adding that I downloaded the latest wmwifirouter last friday 18sep09, and I thought it was a vpn/wifi issue on my laptop. My TP2 did not recognize under activesync after I did a few things, but WM did work the one time I tested it.

I am not using wmwifi. I am using HTC CM Internet Sharing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4170499#post4170499
I figured it was put out by HTC (and free) so it should work right?
It created the wifi access point fine, and I was able to surf with my laptop at good speeds. I left and came back and the internet would no longer connect (laptop or phone).
I tried everything from soft rebooting, to removing the application, to calling *228 (reset the phone), and even manually setting up the verizon data settings. Nothing worked. I just could not establish a data connection.
Finally I gave up and did a hard reboot and restore and it finally worked.
I really need a reliable way of setting up a wifi access point but dont want to risk this fiasco again.

Yeah, I mis-read your first post, sorry!

For me it was as simple as starting the wifi router program and then cleanly stopping it. If forced to quit, you will have no network access. It's happened a couple times for me.

jbass350z said:
I got the htc wifi router working and surfed for a few minutes. I logged out of my PC and back in and the internet wouldnt work on my PC or my phone. I rebooted my phone and still the same problem. Has anyone else run across this problem? How do I fix it/troubleshoot it? 3G is showing it is connected
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Hi there, I had used htc wifi router a while back and hadnt tried connecting the phone to the local wifi network since. After reading your post, I thought I'd check and yes I was getting the same problem, i.e. it wouldn't connect to my home wifi network.
I found the fix to be as follows:
1) Go into comms manager, turn WiFi on
2) Under settings go to wireless LAN
3) In the main tab you will that the SSID is set to "Mobile router", select change network button underneath.
4) Now you should see the SSID of your network, dont select anything, just press o.k at the top and hey presto it will connect.
Let us know if this worked.

billu said:
Hi there, I had used htc wifi router a while back and hadnt tried connecting the phone to the local wifi network since. After reading your post, I thought I'd check and yes I was getting the same problem, i.e. it wouldn't connect to my home wifi network.
I found the fix to be as follows:
1) Go into comms manager, turn WiFi on
2) Under settings go to wireless LAN
3) In the main tab you will that the SSID is set to "Mobile router", select change network button underneath.
4) Now you should see the SSID of your network, dont select anything, just press o.k at the top and hey presto it will connect.
Let us know if this worked.
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Thanks. I couldnt connect to the internet through 3G either though, even though the 3G icon was showing in my status bar.

jbass350z said:
Thanks. I couldnt connect to the internet through 3G either though, even though the 3G icon was showing in my status bar.
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Ah, that's probably for some other reason, no issues with 3G connection for me.

Same problem for me. I connect to the mobile through wifi (Adhoc connection) and the mobile is connected in 3G but I can't surf internet from my laptop.

Enable DHCP
Hi all
Sometimes after using this software you need to renable DHCP in the connections settings. This can be done via:
Start>Settings>Connections>WiFi>Wireless Networks>Network Adaptors>NE2000 Compatible Ethernet Adaptor and then select Use server-assigned IP address.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking

hi i installed e htc wifirouter but it is using my mms setting instead of my phone internet setting. any1 can help?

[Q] Portable Wi-Fi hotspot

Hello,
I want to use portable Wi-Fi hotspot on my phone to connect to my laptop in places where public wi-fi is not available, or to connect to two computers to each other. And it seems to be working.
But I have a problem. I do not want to use mobile network to access Internet for those computers. I want only to exchange data between phone and computer, or between computers themselves.
But every time I switch on hotspot, 3G connection switches on automatically, even if it is switched off on purpose. I know this is intended use of hotspot, but I have a question:
Is there a way to prevent phone switching 3G network on in wi-fi hotspot mode, or just preventing data traffic over 3G?
Or I am missing the point completely?

The application is not intended for such usage; all it does is route traffic between connected wlan-clients and the carrier's apn. The phone itself has the ip-address 192.168.1.1 during this setup, but it is not listening on any ports that would be useful for your setup (ie 'cifs/samba').

LeeCHeSSS said:
The application is not intended for such usage; all it does is route traffic between connected wlan-clients and the carrier's apn. The phone itself has the ip-address 192.168.1.1 during this setup, but it is not listening on any ports that would be useful for your setup (ie 'cifs/samba').
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I do not know if I do understand you but here are the facts:
I connect two dell laptops to portable wi-fi hotspot on my wildfire s:
one is : 192.168.1.135
other : 192.168.1.185
I can ping one from another. If I share a folder in one (.135) and go to others(.185) "Search for computers or people" I see all files in shared folder and can do all the usual operations over them (edit, move...)
Also if I install Remote Web Desktop from Market on my phone I can access phone through web interface.
In a word, I can do all things as on "normal" wi-fi network ( and I promise it is the only network around here ) except all the time I have 3G switched on. And I do not want to do that because I see my network data traffic going up.
So, as I see things, my only problem is unwanted 3G traffic.
Help?

Ah, but you did not mention that you had installed a seperate application to open up a port for the webinterface.
This however does not change the intended usage for the mobile wifi hotspot application!

hey...you can try this:
1. go to your mobile network settings
2. create a new APN, a dummy one
3. set the new APN as default
4. launch your wifihotspot
I did not test it with 2 pcs but, when u launch wifihotspot, 3g no longer comes on and my pc still connected to the wireless network without any problems.
Let us know your results
Cheers,

Hey,
I ran more test on this issue. The previous posted solution works like a charm.
I was able to use the wifihotspot as a wireless access point:
1. 2 or more PCs can communicate with each other (browse folders)
2. If one of the PCs has internet access, it shares to the rest of the PCs
3. If one of the PCs has an ethernet connection to a server, all other PCs also get connection to the server
For 3. to work, you will need to brigde the local area connection with the wireless connection on the PC that has cabled ethernet connection. Also browsing folders will work only if you use \\server ip (\\servername does not work).
I will try getting DNS access via the hotspot later.
Hope this helps