just saw this image on twitter -
[image removed] - nothing to see, turns out it was a joke
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Can you provide the source of this picture
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Can you provide the source of this picture
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malatesta from WMExperts posted this on Twitter - http://twitter.com/malatesta77
Total Fake. I know who did this.
(by the way, you can see when someone simply uses a screenshot from the internet to do such a fake: the live tiles show the same picture as the screenshots on the net)
freyberry said:
Total Fake. I know who did this.
(by the way, you can see when someone simply uses a screenshot from the internet to do such a fake: the live tiles show the same picture as the screenshots on the net)
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well that's depressing - oh well, i found it hard to believe anyway
I heard it's also running on the Himalaya!
haha! It probly would run with all that ram...
I still have my Himalaya aka xda2 in my draw, I cant let it go...
They discussed it here. It's a joke.
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They discussed it here. It's a joke.
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That's talking about an HD2 running WP7S, not the Touch Pro 1 pictured above.
dwizzy130
Windows Mobile 7 requires a minimum of 1 ghz or processing speed.
There is a new HTC HD mini coming out as a lower end HD2 that won't even be compatible to the WM7 series let alone older devices.....
Take a look <<HERE>> for more info.
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That's talking about an HD2 running WP7S, not the Touch Pro 1 pictured above.
dwizzy130
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That's what they said about winmo 6.x. It will never be ported, now what? I believe that when the xda community gets its hands on it, it will be ripped apart in milion small pieces and we'll see then
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haha! It probly would run with all that ram...
I still have my Himalaya aka xda2 in my draw, I cant let it go...
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me to mines just sitting in a draw i've been looking for the dock for it for ages but i've given up now with my touch hd
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funny...
band27 said:
Windows Mobile 7 requires a minimum of 1 ghz or processing speed.
There is a new HTC HD mini coming out as a lower end HD2 that won't even be compatible to the WM7 series let alone older devices.....
Take a look <<HERE>> for more info.
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So how come the iphone with sub 1ghz could and still provide such fluid UI/screens/Graphics?
This is scary to me. What it means is that the graphics will be bogged down sooner or later, stutter, lag or even freeze if you have many live hubs being updated (or bombarded) simultaneously.
Even in Joe's demo, the Album scrolling was NOT as fluid as a 600mhz iphone.
BAD!
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So how come the iphone with sub 1ghz could and still provide such fluid UI/screens/Graphics?
This is scary to me. What it means is that the graphics will be bogged down sooner or later, stutter, lag or even freeze if you have many live hubs being updated (or bombarded) simultaneously.
Even in Joe's demo, the Album scrolling was NOT as fluid as a 600mhz iphone.
BAD!
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Look chiks19018. This is a pre-release OS on a test phone. This is not the real OS. If they were done with the OS it would be released by summer not all the way in Q4 this year. You have to think about things before you make assumptions. Its been annoying me how people would say this OS is slow or laggy when this is NOT THE FINAL OS. I repeat THIS IS NOT THE FINAL OS. This OS was only shown to shut up bloggers with thier WM7 mock-ups or so-called pics(which were quite interesting and I did like some of them). And lets not forgot the amount of animations on this OS compared to the Iphone. Or how deep everything in this OS is connected. This OS from the looks of it is 10x smarter than iphone OS, and when they fix all the bugs and glitches (hopefully be4 release) it will be faster the iphone OS which to me is a very basic, simple OS. Next, the iphone OS was in production for 2 years before they came out and last time I checked when the iphone came out the OS had a crap load of problems. And its taken them 3 updates before they got it right. And I doubt this test phone has a 1ghz processor because of how slow it was running. Again. Pre-release OS. Before you make stupid assumptions at least wait till the OS is released publicly (not beta) before comparing it to the Iphone OS/Iphone thats been updated many times over and has been out for 4 years.
P.S. I hate Iphone, so srry for the hostility.
@the above, we don't even know what hardware it was running on, though I read on Engadget or Gizmodo that it is manufactured by Garmin/Asus (wtf?)
I'm guessing, Chassis 1, but I won't be surprised if it's actually on lesser spec.
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So how come the iphone with sub 1ghz could and still provide such fluid UI/screens/Graphics?
This is scary to me. What it means is that the graphics will be bogged down sooner or later, stutter, lag or even freeze if you have many live hubs being updated (or bombarded) simultaneously.
Even in Joe's demo, the Album scrolling was NOT as fluid as a 600mhz iphone.
BAD!
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Remember that any demos illustrations you see today will not represent the final product of tomorrow. WP7 is still in it's prototype phase.
As far as minimum requirements of 1 ghz is concern, this is so WP7 stays super fast and competes or beats other devices on a speed front. Microsoft doesn't wont' sub-par 1ghz phones to be used as so to keep there devices lightening fast.
Once again, wp7 is still a prototype and there is still 10 months to go to clean up many parts of the OS, including smooth and silky operation improvements. WM7 went through the same stages, as I was a beta tester, testing build after build after build and significant improvements kept on coming on a month bases.
My only concern is that this might be rushed and the final product might resemble what Vista represented. A rushed version of WM7. So microsoft saw that and called it "Vista."
I hope this is not the case here but there have been already some talks about this being the case.....
i hope that windows mobile 7 is not a result of rushed development.
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Remember that any demos illustrations you see today will not represent the final product of tomorrow. WP7 is still in it's prototype phase.
As far as minimum requirements of 1 ghz is concern, this is so WP7 stays super fast and competes or beats other devices on a speed front. Microsoft doesn't wont' sub-par 1ghz phones to be used as so to keep there devices lightening fast.
Once again, wp7 is still a prototype and there is still 10 months to go to clean up many parts of the OS, including smooth and silky operation improvements. WM7 went through the same stages, as I was a beta tester, testing build after build after build and significant improvements kept on coming on a month bases.
My only concern is that this might be rushed and the final product might resemble what Vista represented. A rushed version of WM7. So microsoft saw that and called it "Vista."
I hope this is not the case here but there have been already some talks about this being the case.....
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just returned my iphone, its like a pretty blonde; hot on the outside but nothing on the inside. i think wm is pretty much dead though; android will usher in a new era. i think we should just dismiss the last gen roms and look forward. Its obvious from apple releasing sdks for their tight ass phone that android has a little more than something up their sleeve; cant wait to see what htc devices deliver
Yep, it's just you.
I beg to differ, if you put WM in the hands of a decent development house you could come up with a very nice looking device
http://www.sonyericsson.com/x1/default.aspx?cc=gb&lc=en
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I beg to differ, if you put WM in the hands of a decent development house you could come up with a very nice looking device
http://www.sonyericsson.com/x1/default.aspx?cc=gb&lc=en
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*drools* i can't wait for this to be released
I think windows mobile is gonna be around for a while yet until something else more stable & reliable comes along. Going by the phone in link above, WM is here to stay for quite some time!!
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just returned my iphone, its like a pretty blonde; hot on the outside but nothing on the inside. i think wm is pretty much dead though; android will usher in a new era. i think we should just dismiss the last gen roms and look forward. Its obvious from apple releasing sdks for their tight ass phone that android has a little more than something up their sleeve; cant wait to see what htc devices deliver
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You can jailbreak an iphone and install a ton of useful apps today already...
I'm waiting for the next iphone with 3G and hopefully built in GPS.
Blonde jailbait?
The xperia is the sickest device I've seen in sometime
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The xperia is the sickest device I've seen in sometime
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ROFL, hey Charlie, the "sickest" device?
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*drools* i can't wait for this to be released
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Looks Great, probably going to be $399 at least. The film (Commercial) is pretty stupid, doesn't show any features of the phone, just a bunch of paper airplanes.
Anyone know a release date on this baby?
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The xperia is the sickest device I've seen in sometime
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See its specification, if the price is as rumors around 700$ the Xperia X1 will be a killer of all other WM devices. I wonder why HTC doesn´t have any revolution model up coming. I prefer the high resolution display and small smart design.
Like to see this one when it comes out.
details look good.
http://www.elite-electronix.com/smartphones-213/meizu-255/meizu-m8-minione-16gb-unlocked-1379.html
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Blonde jailbait?
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Looks Great, probably going to be $399 at least. The film (Commercial) is pretty stupid, doesn't show any features of the phone, just a bunch of paper airplanes.
Anyone know a release date on this baby?
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$399----wow, that is a low estimate. if the tytn i is still going for 400 i think the the x1 will be around 800-1000 when it first comes out.
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Like to see this one when it comes out.
details look good.
http://www.elite-electronix.com/smartphones-213/meizu-255/meizu-m8-minione-16gb-unlocked-1379.html
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Hmmm an iphone with WM on it, what a bad combination!!!! Oh and worst of all no keyboard, no use whatsoever as a business device... Nice toy if you like poking your screen with a stylus or smearing it with fingerprints...
I believe the expected release date for the xperia 1 is early 2009
I phoned the Sony Shop in the UK they said mid year.
excellent, I'm due a new phone bout then!
Windows mobile will die if microsoft doesn't quit being lazy
Windows mobile will die. Have you guys ever really thought about this operating system we're running on our hand helds. back inthe day you had desktops pushing 166mhz and running full installs of windows 95 and in some cases I've even seen 98 on that processor. And those system ran applicatiosn and did so with not much problems.
in 2008 many years in the future we have our handsets pushing 400mhz processors (hermes) and yet it lags when you chcange screen orientation. It lags to answer a phone call if your in landscape orientation.
That is utter rubbish. Microsoft got windows mobile code wrong the firstst ime it was bloated. The reason why it'll never improve exponentially is because microsoft does not like to do things over they will forever build up ontop of a bloated operating system.
We see the same thing happening in the desktop counteer part of their operating system. If android can drop a proper user interface to make users comfortable with using the device Then i see no reason why it wouldn't superceed windows mobile
hardware vendors would be more than happy if this was the case as licensing for windows mobile cost an arm and a leg.
but really think about it
166mhz ran a whole computers operating system with various application 400mhz can barely run the windows mobile operating system properly.
Thats just disgusting.
WM is already changing due to other operators including Apple, and they need to as people expect reliable, functional operating systems.
Yes I agree, microsoft are lazy, but with the introduction of android, apple etc, I think (hope) they are actually starting to sit up and take action.
If they come back with another unreliable WM then, people will start to look elsewhere and microsoft will be in trouble. Lets just hope they take note and sort it out now
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/windows-phone-7-series-hands-on-and-impressions/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/windows-phone-7-series-is-official-and-microsoft-is-playing-to/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_6GMBDG67M
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Would there be a port/nbh?
Sadly I don't think the diamond is powerful enough to run WM7, but surely someone will try to get it running. I may have to buy a new phone when WM7 comes out..
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There is no specifications released yet. For what i've seen on webcast from MWC it's a complite rebuild of OS itself. So even if it will be posible it would be something like porting Android.
Diamond 3
I think the next gen Diamond will probably be able to run it
I believe that it is not a chance that diamond can run wm7. Even if it can run, the animation, transition, 3d will be extremely sluggish and crash everywhere. Sad. I think 6.5.3 is the end of the development for diamond. Time to buy new device everyone.
I won't get my hopes up, but it wouldn't be the first time the xda community surprised me? I remember the first wm 6.5 rom! SO CRAPPY!
I know MS has gotten better code more recently but the optimizations that took foot for sense 2.5, 2.1, and manilla 2.1 to even run are quite impressive!
love all the work here first of all got my diamond a longer live than would hope
i think it's impossible for Windows Phone 7 to run on android.
M$ has stated there are high minimum standards even for todays phones (think 1Ghz proc. 512mb ram min. maybe even dedicated GPU, high resolution screen, capacitive) all attributes the Diamond does not posses.
Not that impressed with WP7 for know but they have a 6 month period to refine and define it.
I would love to see an all out effort to get Andriod to the Diamond, dedicated from first boot and getting everything out of the Diamond.
I heard that WM7 need's a mac to run it.
Just watched the ms video on utube and I must say it looks owesome, but would it make htc sense redundent?
feelings on 7
it would make everything redundant, after looking at the vid, I am guess 1ghz processer minimum, no more sence, this is a new concept, and microsoft will never allow 3rd party interfaces again, they are pushing xbox live and bing, so to me it looks like it will be simply a ms money spinner and thats that. bet appz will only be available from there app store as well, just my feelings on it.
We might not see WM7 for our devices. We'll see a lot that looks like it though!
I think I can envisage similar UIs popping up everywhere.
The diamond does not have Capacitive multitouch screen with is required for Windows Phone 7 series. So, it will not work on the diamond.
WM7 is able to manage Capacitive multitouch screen. It doesn't mean that "NON Capacitive multitouch screen" is not allowed ... I think nobody knows today what is the final spec of WinMO 7
You're all wrong
wmpoweruser.com/?p=13395[/url]
This clearly shows a current 6.5 phone running Windows Mobile 7, and it even says it runs faster than 6.5 does. This means that it probably would run faster on devices that currently run 6.5, sorta like Vista vs. 7. Microsoft haven't released any minimum hardware specs yet, the only things they've said the device requires is a start, home and search button, and they said this for 6.5, and XDA managed to circumvent that .
I think someone in the community will get 7 to run on our old Diamonds, and it may not be as fast as the Leo or some newer phones, but who would expect it to? I think the 600mhzish processors in our devices shouldn't limit us that much.
Apparently WVGA is the minimum resolution required as well, so unless it can be ported then I doubt it
Well it could be a good thing if someone succeed into making a WM7 for our diamonds.
I think, the hard spec will be like HD2. But who knows, this OS may be the third life for the first diamond.
BTW, don't you think the design of the phone on the video is really like diamond design !?
let us just take the first iphone ... it had 400 mhz and just 128 mb ram ... i hope it's right i'm not definetly sure ... the ui on the vid was great ... no question , but the diamond ist so much faster than the first i phone the OS is the part which should use the cpu and gpu right ... i think 1000mhz on the HD2 are way too much ... iphone 3gs has 600 mhz now why the hd2 needs so much .. so i'm sure that wm7 can be ported, like sense, to the diamond.. and release after release it will be better
PS sorry for my english i know it's sometimes hard to understand, i'm german
This article <<HERE>> spells how the Diamond will be no where near compatible with windows mobile 7 in that the processor is too slow.
1 ghz minimum is pretty much an official fact based on the article attached as the HD mini that will be coming out at the end of this year will not even be compatible as these devices are slotted in to run 6.5 or some derivative (i.e. 6.6)
http://twitter.com/eldarmurtazin/status/8274606051
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This article [pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2359647,00. spells how the Diamond will be no where near compatible with windows mobile 7 in that the processor is too slow.
1 ghz minimum is pretty much an official fact based on the article attached as the HD mini that will be coming out at the end of this year will not even be compatible as these devices are slotted in to run 6.5 or some derivative (i.e. 6.6)
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"The HD Mini will presumably not be upgradeable to Windows Phone 7, as it doesn't have a fast enough processor. "
This is all presumption by pcmag.com, and it has nothing to do with actual information sent out by microsoft. Also, their desktop OSs have pretty high 'minimal specifications' yet hackers find ways to bypass these every time. The Diamond isn't even fast enough to hance 6.5, yet XDA got it to run. Any info microsoft puts out is irrelevant, the only thing that matters is if anyone on XDA gets it running and if it runs well.
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So I'm wondering what the concensus is. Are we going to see this or not?
The official word is obviously that there will be no upgrade for the HD2, but people seem to have hope in the community here. I'm not much of a dev/hacker to know for sure, so I'm wondering what you guys think...
The issues I'm hearing are:
Hardware buttons
GPU
On-board storage
Upscalling
The hardware buttons are obviously a non-issue. And from what MS is saying, despite not being able to swap out memory cards, SD storage can be used by OEMs to supplement on-board storage. But I dont know about the GPU and upscaling. Are these built in to the HD2 already? Is the upscaling a hardware or software issue? Are these things a deal breaker??
This would be most excellent if so,I just picked up a HD2 last night and even though I am back to edge speed ( which is not a real issue for me,lots of wifi around.) I LOVE THIS PHONE !!!
Man this thing is making me giggle like a school girl.....
I don't see anyone NOT putting it on there, especially when it hits America (If it hasn't already that is)
HOWEVER, i highly doubt you will want to use it. THey are going the iphone route. NO more File explorer and open source and multi tasking. All the things that made WinMO popular are apparently disappearing.
Disappoints me really. I jumped on the Android train. My first PDA was a dell X50
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This would be most excellent if so,I just picked up a HD2 last night and even though I am back to edge speed ( which is not a real issue for me,lots of wifi around.) I LOVE THIS PHONE !!!
Man this thing is making me giggle like a school girl.....
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just wondering, why didn't you wait till the 24th to get the one from T-Mobile so you'd have 3g?
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just wondering, why didn't you wait till the 24th to get the one from T-Mobile so you'd have 3g?
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that's what im doing, 4 more days! cannot wait to get my hands on this beast!
All because of $$ !!
M$ want more developer to developes more app and game for WP7S, in order to do that, u need to convince developer that they can make $$ for the app. Currently it is to easy to get craXXk app for WinMo.
M$ learnt the good idea for iPhone by locked down the system so u can only purchase from App Store. By doing these, M$ will stand good chances to complete will iPhone (Gen 4) in the future.
My only wish is : Hopefully M$ don't be hash on XDA, cos i believe XDA will make something interesting from WP7S for HD2 ... i believe.
Althought I'm glad others are showing interest, I was hoping to make this a technical discussion around the facts of whether it can or cannot happen. And maybe at this point the answer is "we dont know." But hopefully we'll get more answers in time...
I think the question is not whether or not the HD2 will receive the upgrade to 7. Officially or unofficially, I think its just a matter of time. May not be as soon as youd like, but I't will get there. Its more a question of how relevant the HD2 will be be the time win7 is made available to it. Also, will there be able to be some kind of dual boot option available. The way 7 is shaping up, I'm not too enthused about only having 7. I would use 7 for gaming, social use, and winMo 6.5 when I'm looking to get my hands dirty.
Is it a Tomtom icon we can see? is the old version or is tomtom already developpe a new one in Sylverlight?
AFAIK that image is simply a skin over the top of WM6.5 rather than WM7s, so it is a current tomtom app
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AFAIK that image is simply a skin over the top of WM6.5 rather than WM7s, so it is a current tomtom app
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No, that image was published on winmo.nl during the Barcelona unveiling of WP7, long before any WP7 skins were created.
Right now it looks like it was either fake (just an HD2 showing a WP7 picture on its screen) or an early development version of the OS, not destined to ever be released on the HD2.
Winmo.nl claimed the TomTom app worked fine on WP7, possibly because 'tomtom was already preparing their software for WP7'.
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M$ learnt the good idea for iPhone by locked down the system so u can only purchase from App Store. By doing these, M$ will stand good chances to complete will iPhone (Gen 4) in the future.
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It'll probably be iPhone 5g before WP7 will be any threat. iPhone 4g is probably coming out in June/July, a few months before WP7 is even out.
Though the HD2 is a fantastic device and loved by anyone (incl myself) who lays their hands on it, you can't help but feel somewhat bitter that a device of such magnitude is just going to be ANOTHER HTC phone almost solely kept alive by xda-developers.
You can see MS's reasoning. You can love the sheer beauty of the HD2. But Jesus - think of the potential going to waste and how it comes across to consumers who hear 'hey, your device is outdated already'. Consumers that haven't even got the device available in their country yet.
One word - Flash. THAT'S reason enough to be at least a little pissed off as an HD2 user.
A joke, it is - but in XDA I trust.
unfortunately, HD2 doen't support WM 7, WM7 only support 3 solid buttons, no more, no less....
HD2 has 5 solid buttons, so...give up to upgrade to WM 7
If the HD2 has a WP7 test build running on it somewhere at HTC and it gets leaked the HD2 should easily get an unofficial upgrade but if that doesn't happen it won't be easy.
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unfortunately, HD2 doen't support WM 7, WM7 only support 3 solid buttons, no more, no less....
HD2 has 5 solid buttons, so...give up to upgrade to WM 7
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You're clearly new to this part of town...
camera hardware button is also a requirement...
an interesting key i found on my T-Mobile HD2 HKCU\ControlPanel\Keybd\WM7KeybdLayout.
Very strange indeed
I'm pretty sure hardware keys would be irrellivant to getting this on the phone.
My understanding of the key requirements are based upon the chassis version been used with WP7. I think these are basically stipulated purely for the user experience Microsoft are trying to give and not software limitations.
Sadly, I won't get it til general availablity and I don't know which phone. Microsoft peeps are still being cagey with it. The guy wouldn't even let me take a pic of a LG WP7 device even though it's been all over the internet already. The only real new info I've gleaned is that they will support basic exchange policies like pin unlock and remote wipe. Still going to try and fenagle some more info out of them.
WTH? Congratulations!!
cool can i have it?
Congrats!.........
Depending on what they say, I might just get a HD2. The WP7 device is supposed to be general availability and they might make devices available before then and I'm not willing to wait.
niceeee
thats lucky and awesome!
Remember to colaborate with XDA and help WP7 become more awesome .
Windows 7 phone is dead before the official release
cgigate said:
Windows 7 phone is dead before the official release
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After having seen it in person, the whole OS is rather impressive. While it may not on paper be the #1 phone OS, it is rather good and will put up a good fight. Oh and they've only shown off around 70% of the OS's features. More positive info will come to light as we near launch.
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After having seen it in person, the whole OS is rather impressive.
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Did your opinion change for the better? I may be wrong, but I recall you were pretty negative about it.
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Oh and they've only shown off around 70% of the OS's features.
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Do you know this from seeing the features or is it what you think will happen?
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Did your opinion change for the better? I may be wrong, but I recall you were pretty negative about it.
Do you know this from seeing the features or is it what you think will happen?
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I think I've always been relatively positive about the new OS. While some of the new restrictions are annoyingly restrictive, I don't think it'll be a problem for us. In one of the sessions today they showed off how devs will be able to unlock phones and it was just a desktop app that talks to the store. I can easily see this app being modified to just not talk to the store but I'm betting there will need to be more done than this. So while I still wish MS would open up the dev platform more, I somewhat respect the decisions they've made and I don't think it will be hard for the rest of us to have phones we can do as we wish with.
It was stated earlier in the week by one of the members of the WP7 team that only 70-80% of the OS had been shown off up to this point. However, after going hands on with a device for a while today, I didn't find much that we haven't seen yet. The whole thing is fluid and is super intuitive. It really is a joy to use. So I'm not sure how much is left to unveil but it seems rather useable today. But none of the WP7 guys that I talked to are using it full time yet so that's kind of telling.
nice... congrats... HD2 is still better looking then any of the WP7 phones we've seen... the only one that beats it is the prototype images of HD3 made in photoshop lol... dell lightening comes close, but hw keyboard kills it as well... just get the HD2, then u'll have to option of running 6.5 or android (90% possible so far) and prolly even wp7 when it comes out since it conforms to all specs ...
Pics or it didn't happen!
Jeeze. Necro thread!
I ended up deciding to wait for a WP7 device. The HD2 they had was a european model and couldn't do 3G here. A smartphone without 3G is useless. So I wait til October like everyone else. But at least it will be free.
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nice... congrats... HD2 is still better looking then any of the WP7 phones we've seen... the only one that beats it is the prototype images of HD3 made in photoshop lol... dell lightening comes close, but hw keyboard kills it as well... just get the HD2, then u'll have to option of running 6.5 or android (90% possible so far) and prolly even wp7 when it comes out since it conforms to all specs ...
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Not all the specs, AFAIK the chipsets in the HD2 do not conform to all the hardware specs that Microsoft has made for Windows Phone 7 compatibility. Things like the hardware image scaler for example are not present in the HD2, nor is support for hardware acceleration of the VC-1 codec.
I've been an WP7 advocate since it first appeared Q1 2010 and has avidly followed it up until I finally bought my HD7 back in Dec 2010. I love my device and the simplicity behind the OS, but there's a lot lacking. While the marketplace is booming with activity, there's still little developer support because of its you product life and I feel mango is launching a little late. In its current way, WP7 is still an abysmal OS, no one can deny that. And is the sole reason I will be switching back to android for a short minute until WP7 matures into something like this: The Early Concepts of WP7
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A lot of hardware has launched with Android at the heart and its harder and harder to not acknowledge that. Just look at the Samsung Galaxy S2.
This is not to be a troll thread, and all I'm merely asking is anyone feeling like me.
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In its current way, WP7 is still an abysmal OS, no one can deny that.
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I can deny that.
Further, I don't understand what those concepts feature that today's WP7 lacks. The ability to read email and answer phone calls?
This is absolutely a troll thread.
First you say this...
krjcook said:
I've been an WP7 advocate since it first appeared Q1 2010...
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But then you follow it with this...
krjcook said:
In its current way, WP7 is still an abysmal OS, no one can deny that.
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I can and DO deny this preposterous statement. WP7 has some shortcomings right now, but none of them are severe enough to prevent me from using and liking the phone. It is FAR from "abysmal".
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This is not to be a troll thread.
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Could have fooled me.
iOS and Android set the trend now Windows Phone 7 is refining it. Look at Mango... the things they've added...its not bolt ons, its not widgets or workarounds its deeply integrated things that have been well thought out and implemented. The Zune Software is a great example of this too and often gets overlooked. iTunes is an abhorrent mess, and Google well, you've got to search 3rd parties for something that provide the services that should be a core part of the operating system.
Wp7 is worth the wait. I spent way too much time messing around with android to get things working as they should.
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Schismal said:
I can deny that.
Further, I don't understand what those concepts feature that today's WP7 lacks. The ability to read email and answer phone calls?
This is absolutely a troll thread.
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I had a feeling someone would jump off the deep end and come at aggressively with the troll remarks. Look me up on Xbl: keenancook , I have WP7 gaming achievements because I own the HD7. But anyways, those pics were show what WP7 may have in the future and why I'm still considering the OS. But WP7 lacking a lot:
Applications, application, applications. WP7 is just lacking, time is what it needs and how many people are willing to wait.
Big Dev's aren't paying too much attention
Main System Menu is BLAND
Too Much Scrolling Just to get where I need.
Marketplace needs revision.
Having to Wait For Features.
As much as I like Android for what it is, I will never go back to that abysmally fragmented OS and half-baked feel. I can wait for Mango, which is bringing 80-90% of the features I wanted, and will see a huge surge in applications with all the new API's released.
wp7 UI is infinitely better than anything else out right now for me, and you add Mango to that, and I am very happy.
so according to your poll, i can only respond that im staying with WP7 if Im waiting for future updates?
What If I'm staying because I like what it IS.
I bought WP7 and I'm staying with WP7 because I like what it is NOW. Mango is extra gravy...
sHAYM4N said:
iOS and Android set the trend now Windows Phone 7 is refining it. Look at Mango... the things they've added...its not bolt ons, its not widgets or workarounds its deeply integrated things that have been well thought out and implemented. The Zune Software is a great example of this too and often gets overlooked. iTunes is an abhorrent mess, and Google well, you've got to search 3rd parties for something that provide the services that should be a core part of the operating system.
Wp7 is worth the wait. I spent way too much time messing around with android to get things working as they should.
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I completely agree about Zune, I've been using it since I first got my Zune 30. Its the MultiMedia Playback Software both visually and from a performance standpoint, Itune/DoubleTwist lags on my PC.
But my problem isn't with Zune, its WP7. Am I the only one who's sick of all the poorly developed apps by amateurs, because the professionals aren't interested? Tired of waiting for a decent banking app? Where my Wachovia App? What about my Onstar App? Wtf is up with the expensive pricing or XBLA games? I would love to play Cut the Rope, how long do I have to wait for that? Free Turn by Turn GPs is coming, but only in 2D, with no orientation, How long do I have to wait for that?
munkeyphyst said:
so according to your poll, i can only respond that im staying with WP7 if Im waiting for future updates?
What If I'm staying because I like what it IS.
I bought WP7 and I'm staying with WP7 because I like what it is NOW. Mango is extra gravy...
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my thoughts exactly
munkeyphyst said:
so according to your poll, i can only respond that im staying with WP7 if Im waiting for future updates?
What If I'm staying because I like what it IS.
I bought WP7 and I'm staying with WP7 because I like what it is NOW. Mango is extra gravy...
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Obviously you just don't get it. You CAN'T like it for what it is, because it "is still an abysmal OS". Didn't you know that??
krjcook said:
Tired of waiting for a decent banking app? Where my Wachovia App? What about my Onstar App? Wtf is up with the expensive pricing or XBLA games? I would love to play Cut the Rope, how long do I have to wait for that? Free Turn by Turn GPs is coming, but only in 2D, with no orientation, How long do I have to wait for that?
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You don't have to wait for any of those things. Go buy an Android today, and boom! You're there. You can't have it both ways, though. You can't buy into a fledgling ecosystem and then act betrayed by the fact that it isn't as mature as one that has existed for years. That is a naive and immature reaction.
As for the apps you are clamoring for, many weren't possible with the APIs that have been available to developers. Microsoft realized this, and just this week released a new developer kit that includes over 1500 new APIs, which will cause the marketplace to expand at a much more rapid pace in the coming months.