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[Question] Will Moto Atrix features be portable to EVO?

So with the Atrix about to be released it has me thinking. Will the features of the "portable laptop" be able to be ported and included in an EVO rom? I mean we have this HDMI out that basically does nothing and this would be PERFECT. So how hard would it be? Would a bounty help push for development? I know I would pay to be able to use my EVO as a portable computer.

bmwboyee said:
So with the Atrix about to be released it has me thinking. Will the features of the "portable laptop" be able to be ported and included in an EVO rom? I mean we have this HDMI out that basically does nothing and this would be PERFECT. So how hard would it be? Would a bounty help push for development? I know I would pay to be able to use my EVO as a portable computer.
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Didn't want you to miss this.

thanks Jacka$$. Considering it straddles the fence of being part of a rom and more of a technical question, it did not seem fitting to put it in the Q&A. Could this not be a ROM COMPONENT?
Mods feel free to lock or move. It will get no attention in the Q&A when it is really about a rom component.

bmwboyee said:
thanks Jacka$$. Considering it straddles the fence of being part of a rom and more of a technical question, it did not seem fitting to put it in the Q&A. Could this not be a ROM COMPONENT?
Mods feel free to lock or move. It will get no attention in the Q&A when it is really about a rom component.
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That's a interesting topic but like the post above said it should be in Q&A and believe it or no there is developers checking those forums, I seen Calk posting in General and he is a developer and some others as well. Back to the topic the would be cool but at the same time I think too much for the evo for now I just wish we can get the new sense or gingerbread eatheir one would be good for the Evo
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Can you rip toyota parts and throw em in a ford? For the most part, NO.
Just as you wouldnt be able to take moto stuff and put it into an HTC phone. Besides the atrix has hardware differences to allow that stuff.

bmwboyee said:
So with the Atrix about to be released it has me thinking. Will the features of the "portable laptop" be able to be ported and included in an EVO rom? I mean we have this HDMI out that basically does nothing and this would be PERFECT. So how hard would it be? Would a bounty help push for development? I know I would pay to be able to use my EVO as a portable computer.
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Post in Q&A please.

wow is it that hard to post a question in the QandA section lol

Forum Police FTW
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bmwboyee said:
thanks Jacka$$. Considering it straddles the fence of being part of a rom and more of a technical question, it did not seem fitting to put it in the Q&A. Could this not be a ROM COMPONENT?
Mods feel free to lock or move. It will get no attention in the Q&A when it is really about a rom component.
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This forum isnt called "development q and a". It's for developing things only.
I think I'm gonna build an evo rom and post it in the Windows phone 7 development forum. I mean what difference does it make, its a development forum right??
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bmwboyee said:
thanks Jacka$$. Considering it straddles the fence of being part of a rom and more of a technical question, it did not seem fitting to put it in the Q&A. Could this not be a ROM COMPONENT?
Mods feel free to lock or move. It will get no attention in the Q&A when it is really about a rom component.
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The only attention this post will get here is people telling you that it should be in Q & A. Either way, it doesnt belong here.

bmwboyee said:
So with the Atrix about to be released it has me thinking. Will the features of the "portable laptop" be able to be ported and included in an EVO rom? I mean we have this HDMI out that basically does nothing and this would be PERFECT. So how hard would it be? Would a bounty help push for development? I know I would pay to be able to use my EVO as a portable computer.
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This posting is just wrong on every level:
1) It does NOT belong in the Development Thread.
2) Bounty Threads are 100% against xda rules.
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This community is starting to sicken me. Stfu and let a mod move it, I'm sure they dont need a ton of tards saying OMG WRONG FORUM. Until then, answer his question or dont post at all. easy.
And as an answer to your question, no. It might be possible but I doubt anybody would attempt to do it. Not to mention the Atrix was made with the computer dock in mind.
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LOL! This has to be one of the greatest threads I've read in a while

bmwboyee said:
thanks Jacka$$. Considering it straddles the fence of being part of a rom and more of a technical question, it did not seem fitting to put it in the Q&A. Could this not be a ROM COMPONENT?
Mods feel free to lock or move. It will get no attention in the Q&A when it is really about a rom component.
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You're welcome. I posted that for you because I figured you couldn't differentiate between questions and technical discussion.
Also, explain how this "straddles the fence" of being part of a ROM. I must have missed the part where you started porting this and writing code. My mistake.

No. You wouldn't. As great as software can be it can't make non-existent connections on the PCB board to appear out of no where.

davenukem said:
This community is starting to sicken me. Stfu and let a mod move it, I'm sure they dont need a ton of tards saying OMG WRONG FORUM. Until then, answer his question or dont post at all. easy.
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Ditto! Agreed...

well maybe to end this the HDMI port on our evo is going to only send data nothing back

davenukem said:
This community is starting to sicken me. Stfu and let a mod move it, I'm sure they dont need a ton of tards saying OMG WRONG FORUM. Until then, answer his question or dont post at all. easy.
And as an answer to your question, no. It might be possible but I doubt anybody would attempt to do it. Not to mention the Atrix was made with the computer dock in mind.
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There's a white knight in every forum these days.
Oops better answer the question before I get scolded. Answer: NO.
BTW, heed your own advice and STFU and let a mod move this thread, instead of replying and bumping it and getting it more attention, like I am doing.

davenukem said:
This community is starting to sicken me. Stfu and let a mod move it, I'm sure they dont need a ton of tards saying OMG WRONG FORUM. Until then, answer his question or dont post at all. easy.
And as an answer to your question, no. It might be possible but I doubt anybody would attempt to do it. Not to mention the Atrix was made with the computer dock in mind.
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2 things....
1) The funniest part of the thread is that it is titled [Question] lol.
2) Seems like the question has been answered, so lets close this mthfkr!

Igotsanevo4g said:
Can you rip toyota parts and throw em in a ford? For the most part, NO.
Just as you wouldnt be able to take moto stuff and put it into an HTC phone. Besides the atrix has hardware differences to allow that stuff.
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There's room in the car, just throw the tire from the Toyota in the back seat.
But for the most part, no. Things like the launcher or moto apps most likely rely on frameworks only present in a rom built for the Atrix. You can't just rip frameworks from a totally different device, and slap it in another device and expect it to work.

[Q] Security issues with ROMs

Hey,
Maybe a noob question. I have searched and searched without greater success... so please be kind.
I'm in need to do something about low RAM and lousy battery life. Thus flashing a cooked ROM is starting to surface.
However, how safe is this? I mean, I'll probably pick one of the well-known builders like LEEDroic or Ace's, but how would you rate the risks for spoofing, hacking or other malware incorporated in these builds?
I know just being connedted is a risk .- but this takes it one step further. I'm not paranoid, but I do have some sensitive data like Ewallet/Flexwallet with Credit Card info for reminders...
All you guys flashing - ROM's that is - do you have any sensitive data at all?
Many thanks.
Your humble noob

robned said:
However, how safe is this? I mean, I'll probably pick one of the well-known builders like LEEDroic or Ace's, but how would you rate the risks for spoofing, hacking or other malware incorporated in these builds?
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I stopped reading there. Seriously, if you have this kind of concerns, lock into your house, close the windows and never go out.

Lol Terepin, you are funny most of the time but you can't go trolling around every single nab on the board. Nhf.
This is a legitimate website. How do you know those apps you trusted your personal data are legitimate?

erklat said:
Lol Terepin, you are funny most of the time but you can't go trolling around every single nab on the board. Nhf.
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erklat said:
Lol Terepin, you are funny most of the time but you can't go trolling around every single nab on the board. Nhf.
This is a legitimate website. How do you know those apps you trusted your personal data are legitimate?
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10chars.

Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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[Q] Need a Good Rom

Hello,
Well after 2 years of owning my Evo 4g, I had to give it up (well didnt have to, but wanted a dual core phone, so got the Moto Photon Q, mostly because of the keyboard)... Anyways....
I need a ROM for my Evo now, that wont have any phone usage (if possible) and no 3/4g wireless.... basicly I want to turn it into an ipod, but better since it will be Android... is there a ROM out there that I should look @ to do this?
thanks a ton in advance!

Oh my God.....
Everyday, bro, every single day, these type of threads get closed. They're not allowed.
Go to the Dev section and, as archaic as it sounds, actually READ the threads and pick one out for yourself.

HipKat said:
Oh my God.....
Everyday, bro, every single day, these type of threads get closed. They're not allowed.
Go to the Dev section and, as archaic as it sounds, actually READ the threads and pick one out for yourself.
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I understand that I "might" not be the first to ask, but if I could find it, I would not have asked (shocker I know).

sationus said:
I understand that I "might" not be the first to ask, but if I could find it, I would not have asked (shocker I know).
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ubersonic!
^^
go to the rom list in my sig, and look for a jb rom with that name.
Or else use any rom that takes your fancy and switch it to airplane mode, bingo cellular radios are off.
If its just a media player then you got plenty of time to flash whatever, no?

Page 3 of the dev section, right near the top
[ROM][For inactive devices]Ubersonic RC1

HipKat said:
Oh my God.....
Everyday, bro, every single day, these type of threads get closed. They're not allowed.
Go to the Dev section and, as archaic as it sounds, actually READ the threads and pick one out for yourself.
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Lmfao its crazy how they keep getting made and another mod and I keep closing them
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I am stuck and need an opinion from Sprint owners.

I have the option to buy this phone on AT&T and start a new line of service or buy it on Sprint and continue service. I am wondering if the double storage and 13Mp camera really make it worth staying with Sprint. I was hoping to hear from you Sprint owners. I hear the JB will make the cameras on both devices really great and I do want it as my secondary camera for partying. I live in a LTE city for both companies and the only real difference in service will be slower LTE speeds on Sprint.

jonny4 said:
I have the option to buy this phone on AT&T and start a new line of service or buy it on Sprint and continue service. I am wondering if the double storage and 13Mp camera really make it worth staying with Sprint. I was hoping to hear from you Sprint owners. I hear the JB will make the cameras on both devices really great and I do want it as my secondary camera for partying. I live in a LTE city for both companies and the only real difference in service will be slower LTE speeds on Sprint.
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In before the lock ...
. but really wth would you ask this question for here in this section of this 5 segment forum ? Instead of maybe the q&a or general but here in development?? You should get an iPhone please
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Really? You obviously missed the READ THIS FIRST thread at the top...

And we see why xda gets a bad rap

Moved to Q&A
Lets play nice please!

kangi26 said:
Moved to Q&A
Lets play nice please!
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We always play nice here. :angel:

Really depends if you need an SD. I don't. And you won't either living in an LTE area. And also, cases are easier to find for this phone

If you have LTE in your area like I do, than it's a no brainer. Sure At&t is faster but that comes with a price. I personally like and use my unlimited data and wouldn't trade it for the world.

ATT vs Sprint.
ATT, in most places has faster 3g/FauxG. Downside is data is expensive if your a heavy user.
Sprint, slower if there's no LTE in your area but you don't start getting nasty email/phonecalls to you exceed 30GB in an month three months in a row.(I get these all the time but "Employee Unlimited" covers my butt).
ATT LGOG vs Sprint LGOG. Storage is the key difference. 16GB+what ever size card you want vs 32GB and only 32GB. (No I don't count cloud storage, "Deserted Island" rules in force here)
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Really? You obviously missed the READ THIS FIRST thread at the top...
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You mean to tell me people actually read those! (not reading those is where the LGOG has no everything guide like I did for the MoPho, why bother)

Lokifish Marz said:
ATT vs Sprint.
ATT, in most places has faster 3g/FauxG. Downside is data is expensive if your a heavy user.
Sprint, slower if there's no LTE in your area but you don't start getting nasty email/phonecalls to you exceed 30GB in an month three months in a row.(I get these all the time but "Employee Unlimited" covers my butt).
ATT LGOG vs Sprint LGOG. Storage is the key difference. 16GB+what ever size card you want vs 32GB and only 32GB. (No I don't count cloud storage, "Deserted Island" rules in force here)
You mean to tell me people actually read those! (not reading those is where the LGOG has no everything guide like I did for the MoPho, why bother)
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Lol. I don't even know why they are posted in the first place.
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LOL, sorry everyone. I actually clicked on the wrong tab in Firefox, I had both the Development forum and the Q&A forum open and posted in the wrong one. I was reading through multiple forums at the time and actually posted a similar question in the AT&T LG Optimus G Q&A forum as well. I just made a mistake, LOL. I am looking at my monitor laughing at myself right now too. i do know the main difference between the two phones it was basically a "what is your opinion" question.

jonny4 said:
LOL, sorry everyone. I actually clicked on the wrong tab in Firefox, I had both the Development forum and the Q&A forum open and posted in the wrong one. I was reading through multiple forums at the time and actually posted a similar question in the AT&T LG Optimus G Q&A forum as well. I just made a mistake, LOL. I am looking at my monitor laughing at myself right now too. i do know the main difference between the two phones it was basically a "what is your opinion" question.
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I love the 13 MP camera especially since they have a mod to make it better. The storage kind of sucks because I have 12GB of music and 4GB of Pics plus different mod and backups. I only have 3G but still beat having limited data on a more expensive carrier.

jonny4 said:
LOL, sorry everyone. I actually clicked on the wrong tab in Firefox, I had both the Development forum and the Q&A forum open and posted in the wrong one. I was reading through multiple forums at the time and actually posted a similar question in the AT&T LG Optimus G Q&A forum as well. I just made a mistake, LOL. I am looking at my monitor laughing at myself right now too. i do know the main difference between the two phones it was basically a "what is your opinion" question.
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Are you planning on getting a case for the phone? I ask because the notification light for the AT&T version is the power button and in a case you won't be able to see it. Something else to think about with your deciding.

I say the lower prices and unlimited data are worth staying. Especially since you're LTE covered. The onboard space is sufficient. Plus upload all your music to Google music and stream it over LTE it will play seamless and you can save space on your phone for photos and apps and such. My opinion...
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Should Virgin Mobile Desire 816 have its own Forum?

I was going through the threads and what really bugs me is the virgin mobile desire development is mixed up with the Europe version. I know the phones are identical but we have a different Hboot and Software. We should separate the two versions in two different threads making it easier for users to follow the development phase.

Would make a lot of sense, however I feel like there's not enough development on this device to even bother with the separation. Plus I feel like in the future, developers who might want to make stuff for the 816 would go for the other (dual sim) versions, so the VM one would either get way less development, or all its development a lot later, when our favorite devs were asked to port it to the VM version.

I agree with this as well. Merging the types has caused irreversible bricks for people who aren't savvy in these things especially if they haven't backed up their original software via Nandroid. Now you may think just download an RUU but those are not available for the Virgin Mobile model and finding and using someone else's nandroid isn't a simple drag and drop process including the fact that they can't boot the system. They would indeed have to use for example Cyanogenmod but then people aren't even sure if its possible to restore an original backup from Cyanogen.
On top of that there is a custom kernel but no one has uploaded an original for those who want to go back to stock for squaretrade insurance purposes maybe? I would possibly hear, this sounds like a "you" problem but regardless of the device they were produced and people do use them and some people do like to mod them to the fullest extent to call it "theirs". You might say just learn but it isn't that simple for everyone. What takes an expert a few minutes/hours to arrange may take a new person months or years and with risk that they cannot restore the device in the case of a bad flash. Just saying to consider everyone not just the general population. Minorities in society deserve a chance no?
Me? Saying; I am one of these people but I can understand the difficulty when navigating through something and when their using purely codenames such as a5_dug it makes it no simpler.
One reason for this phone.
Its available in payments on the shopping websites. 199 and 6 months to pay it off with no credit check? Yes please.
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FoxyDrew said:
Would make a lot of sense, however I feel like there's not enough development on this device to even bother with the separation. Plus I feel like in the future, developers who might want to make stuff for the 816 would go for the other (dual sim) versions, so the VM one would either get way less development, or all its development a lot later, when our favorite devs were asked to port it to the VM version.
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My thoughts exactly :good:

kr338r said:
My thoughts exactly :good:
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From March 2014 to now. Rarely spoken of out of 100's of Androids. Because of the price now development is increasing. Your really telling me separating the two forums would cost you enough time to not do it? There are phones that have no development on here and are completely sectioned out amazingly.

jaysoblitzed said:
From March 2014 to now. Rarely spoken of out of 100's of Androids. Because of the price now development is increasing. Your really telling me separating the two forums would cost you enough time to not do it? There are phones that have no development on here and are completely sectioned out amazingly.
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Funny!!!
Talk @ confusion, I saw this in the CM11 thread?
"One question; how the F*** for the life of day and night do you restore this device back to stock without an official RUU for Virgin Mobile? "
Just messin w/ ya, splitting development would not be a good idea IMHO, more of these phones were sold for months outside of US.
VM owners are probably a small minority, so most devs probably wouldn't be bothered with our ROM, give it time, if there's market penetration, we could think @ a split from WW dev.
(as it is, there isn't much going on in dev right now anyway, I'm thankful for the CM11 port we have from Grarak & v_superuser)

Truth be told, things would be easier for us if there was a separate sub forum but it wouldn't favor us as far as development goes.
To the best of my knowledge there are a handful of devs who work with VM phones. I'm not exactly sure if any of them have jumped on the 816.
Until that happens I think it's in our best interest to hang out and wait. Right now we're dependent on those that have had the phone for about 6 months longer than we have..
v_superuser and Garak have posted their CM11 in a cl;ear enough way that DLing and running that rom should be pretty straightforward. If any future roms are posted in the same way there should be no confusion.
That being said, I can see a VM specific subforum being helpful for people who may be starting out and aren't sure about general stuff relating to VM bloatware etc.

kr338r said:
Funny!!!
Talk @ confusion, I saw this in the CM11 thread?
"One question; how the F*** for the life of day and night do you restore this device back to stock without an official RUU for Virgin Mobile? "
Just messin w/ ya, splitting development would not be a good idea IMHO, more of these phones were sold for months outside of US.
VM owners are probably a small minority, so most devs probably wouldn't be bothered with our ROM, give it time, if there's market penetration, we could think @ a split from WW dev.
(as it is, there isn't much going on in dev right now anyway, I'm thankful for the CM11 port we have from Grarak & v_superuser)
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Lol . I bricked this phone 4 times going back and forth; from the Stock ROM, to the Chinese sort of stock ROM, to Cyanogen. Done erased my /sdcard to where it wasn't mountable and brought it back with Cyanogen and sideload. (Luckily, the bootloader wasn't affected by the amount of **** I threw at it.) Tested 3 different recoveries only to find out the old version from the CM11 post was the only one that really worked the properly.
I was able to start it back up and continue to put the backup onto the internal storage since I didn't have an external SD on hand; BUT then I found out that the backup was 1.96 GBs and needed to be in the /data/media/clockworkmod/backup section of the device which was inaccessible via normal USB methods since your stuck in /data/media/0 and is considered basically a completely different partition. This phone has 8GB internal and uses 4.xxGB with its normal software when installed (yes even with Cyan) then I just put a 1.96 GB file so it was basically stopping me from copying the whole folder which was just ever so slightly annoying since I had to use ES file explorer, make a new folder with the same name, then; one by one Cut and Paste each file into the new folder in the /backup folder. This might seem like a simple process but with absolutely no guides out there for a guideline this really sucked. It's basically like; if you have this device then you know how to flash/root/etc as the norm. Trial and error. -_-
Then after looking around and seeing that VM had 55$ for their plan. I saw that Straight Talk was able to accept the MEID of this VM device without a hitch, but then I looked into different carriers for even better alternatives and saw that Ringplus had $17.99 for Unlimited Talk/Text/400MB 3G/4GLTE. I thought **** why not? Turns out Ringplus doesn't accept VM devices. (Sucks)
SO then I decided to "spoof" the IMEI/MEID/ESN with DFS/QPST (Experience) and I was able to get the MEID/ESN to change and get EvDo Rev.A service but to no avail with LTE since the IMEI is "unspoofable" without S-Off. I thought well why not $17.99 for unlimited T&T w/data? Signed up with my new "S3". lmfao
Purpose of this post?
There was at least 3-10 topics I could cover for VM Desire devices now.
:victory::victory::victory:

Maybe this is a dumb question but if the VM version isn't capable of dual numbers or being ported or used anywhere else why does VM advertise this as dual sim on their site as part of the device name? What would be the point of the false advertising.

carnivalrejectq said:
Maybe this is a dumb question but if the VM version isn't capable of dual numbers or being ported or used anywhere else why does VM advertise this as dual sim on their site as part of the device name? What would be the point of the false advertising.
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I just checked out the VMUSA site and couldn't find anything about dual sim. I did however see "Dual Mode" used for the phone. Dual mode is just a term to say that the phone uses both CDMA and GSM. CDMA for 3G and GSM for LTE.

An answer could be to have a thread under "Desire 816 General" called "Virgin Mobile Issues" or something similar. I'm guessing there could be enough traffic to keep it on the first page for a while. For example I'm still curious exactly how the -chl is best classified. Is this hybrid best thought of as a single or dual sim? Will getting s-off allow the phone (with some rom work) to be used by another carrier? Having all these VM specific questions and answers in one place would be a plus and it shouldn't interfere with the Q&A being done on the true dev work here in other threads.