I have a lot of WMA and WAV files that WM6 refuses to use as ringtones, even when copied to Windows or Windows/rings. They also won't play on WMP or GSplayer. But they play fine with various PC players.
I suspect this is something simple, but searching Google for half an hour didn't find it.
Check the bitrate I think 190 is the limit.
AngelDeath said:
Check the bitrate I think 190 is the limit.
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Thanks. I tried to look at the bit rate, but the one program I have that does that returns:
Bitrate: N/A
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which doesn't help.
Any suggestions for determining the bitrate, and if that is the problem, for converting it in a batch of files?
Goldwave is what I use. http://www.goldwave.com/
I also marked my song clip as "Ring-put song name here.wma"
As such the great Phineas and Ferb classic, My Name Is Doof, is now my general ringtone. It was set at 44100Mz, 129kbps, stereo via Goldwave conversion. Mine looks like this "Ring-MyNameIsDoof.wma".
For alarms, I have 2 sound bites...named "Alarm-Reveille.wav" and "Alarm-Mahna Mahna.wav".
Drop them into windows and you should be good. Hope this helps.
I found a way to look at the bitrates, and they range from 16 to 64kbps. The frequencies look to be either 22050 or 41000Hz.
Does the last post imply that I need to make the bitrates higher?
Convert them to MP3, it will make your life simpler.
I try some as a test, but I'm under the impression that MP3s are larger and "lossier".
They aren't DRM-protected WMA files are they? That would be a reason that WMP wouldn't play them either. I had that issue with a bunch of songs purchased legally from Musicmatch. When Yahoo bought Musicmatch they shut down the DRM servers and the songs became useless. Converting to MP3 is probably the easiest solution.
No DRM involved.
slight22 said:
Convert them to MP3, it will make your life simpler.
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Thanks for the tip. I didn't know that WM6 could use MP3s as ringtones.
As for WAVs and WMAs, there seems to be a "signed" attribute which I can't find documentation for. Since the one I have problems with were mostly converted from MIDI files, I assume they are unsigned.
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What is the best music player on the Desire ?
Something that ideally supports mp3, m3u, flac, wmp, wav ogg
Stock supports MP3 and WAV. Flac is supported if you root and install CyanogenMod. I haven't found any player capable of playing M3U, WMP or OGG yet.
I'm pretty sure MortPlayer plays .ogg (brilliant music player BTW) - I could be wrong though...
If installing CyanogenMod allows for flac playback then then pushes me that much closer towards rooting my device - just need the courage as I've heard one or two stories of people bricking their phones. I wouldn't consider myself that much of a noob with these things but I hope someone can come up with a noobs guide to rooting your Desire...
TuneWiki is the best, has more than just music playback!
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Stock supports MP3 and WAV. Flac is supported if you root and install CyanogenMod. I haven't found any player capable of playing M3U, WMP or OGG yet.
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Ahem... The built-in player supports playing OGG files...
Thanks for the tips. I prefer MortPlayer which can play my files even if they are not perfectly rendered ID3 tags and have no album cover.
One thing that annoys me about most of the newest phone on the market is that it requires you to create a playlist of some sort.
Back in the days when most players would work just by simply playing all the files inside a folder.
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One thing that annoys me about most of the newest phone on the market is that it requires you to create a playlist of some sort.
Back in the days when most players would work just by simply playing all the files inside a folder.
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Meridian can do that. You can navigate through your sdcard, long press the desired folder and play all (and a few other options)
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One thing that annoys me about most of the newest phone on the market is that it requires you to create a playlist of some sort.
Back in the days when most players would work just by simply playing all the files inside a folder.
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Not mine it doesn't. Copy and pasted files into a directory and played. Not until a few days later did I set up a few playlists. This was using the stock player but was also playing around with TuneWike and 3 at the same time.
gRoberts said:
One thing that annoys me about most of the newest phone on the market is that it requires you to create a playlist of some sort.
Back in the days when most players would work just by simply playing all the files inside a folder.
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Meridian can do that. You can navigate through your sdcard, long press the desired folder and play all (and a few other options)
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Thats something thats annoyed me too. I just want to play files in my folders, not spend ages making a playlist........ Just downloaded Meridian and its doing what I want. Thanks for the tip off.
I just make sure all the tracks within a folder have the same 'Album' name, that way when you sort by album, they're all grouped correctly.
You can do this in Windows by highlighting all the tracks within a folder, then right click and go to "Properties | Summary | Advanced" and update the 'Album Title' field.
It can be instant, or take a minute or so to update the album name, depending on what type of ID tag it uses.
I know that cyanogenmod supports wma in the music player, I was wondering if anyone knows if that be easy or difficult to port to xdandroid? (or a good way to get wma support)
thanks!
so, made a bit of progress. I looked at a cyanogen rom
I copied over the pvasf related files (file format for wma/wmv files) (in system/etc and system/lib)
and the libomx_wma/wmv decoder files (in system/lib)
and now I'm playing wma files perfectly on my sprint touch pro 2.
though, don't have meta parsing and it seems cyanogen does have support for that.
any chance this can be rolled into an xdandroid build?
WMA is probably the WORST format for media. Statistics have shown that it's even worse than MP3 for acoustic reproduction.
I would advise avoiding that codec like the plague.
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WMA is probably the WORST format for media. Statistics have shown that it's even worse than MP3 for acoustic reproduction.
I would advise avoiding that codec like the plague.
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#1, I've read many things that seem to imply that its not worse than mp3 (and definitely better at low bitrates)
#2, does it matter if I already have a lot of music in WMA format that isn't DRMd so that reencoding it would make things worse (I didn't choose WMA for these tracks, but I dont want to reencode)
#3, why would it be an issue if as I've shown support already exists in android and can be easily included at the loss of a small amount of space (been playing wma all day on my xdandroid sprint touch pro 2)
Eh, no reason it shouldn't be supported in Android, I just know that it's awful - especially at low bitrates.
OGG Vorbis and AAC are the ONLY codecs I would trust at any bitrate that would be considered 'low'...
Let me find the research...
ok, so we agree. I wouldn't use wma for anything I make either, its more of a historical artifact that I have it (and was mostly a windows mobile user before when I collected it, so didn't mind).
I'm not sure how to get metadata working, but not the biggest deal
Is this working yet?
if you follow my steps, it works to play (though doesn't get any info out of the files).
I've stopped doing anything with this as bought an Epic 4G.
I have tons of wma's. This would be great if I could use them with out converting them to MP3's
Hi kwoodyusa, I guess you'll have to tweak your build by hand, following thetoady's directives in post 2.
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Hi kwoodyusa, I guess you'll have to tweak your build by hand, following thetoady's directives in post 2.
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what was said, it was pretty easy, I just copied files over and then it just worked.
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what was said, it was pretty easy, I just copied files over and then it just worked.
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How about posting those files here? Please?
1) download hero rom from
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Latest_Version
2) unzip it.
3) files are where I say they are in post #2 (though for system/lib they are system/lib/libpvasf*
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Eh, no reason it shouldn't be supported in Android, I just know that it's awful - especially at low bitrates.
OGG Vorbis and AAC are the ONLY codecs I would trust at any bitrate that would be considered 'low'...
Let me find the research...
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Thats funny every thing I've ever read says AAC is the worst. and WMA beats MP3. And lets face it OGG is a non-factor.
genaldar said:
Thats funny every thing I've ever read says AAC is the worst. and WMA beats MP3. And lets face it OGG is a non-factor.
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lol we're talking about the same bitrates right? WMA has a 'lossless' option, so if you're comparing that to MP3 then it's not apples-to-apples anymore...
I mean let's take one file. Compress it to 64kbps. Same song, same bitrate, different formats - which would perform the best? AFAIK, OGG would be #1. Then AAC, then MP3, then WMA last... WMA is a horrible format from what I remember reading, but I can't find the dang report I read - which was years ago, to be honest... But MP3 is 17 years old...
You can MMS an audio and save as a ringtone, but I'm having trouble with mp3 and wma..
# What are the supported ringtone formats?
WARNING: Once you save a ringtone, you cannot delete it!!
You can delete ringtones.... You just have to reset.
lol thanks..
I've tried mp3, wma, wav, ogg, still can't save any..
Am I doing something wrong? Been trying all the free online MMS sites..
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lol thanks..
I've tried mp3, wma, wav, ogg, still can't save any..
Am I doing something wrong? Been trying all the free online MMS sites..
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Those online "free" MMS sites aren't actually free. You still pay for receiving the MMS/SMS.
Try sending from another cellphone.
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Those online "free" MMS sites aren't actually free. You still pay for receiving the MMS/SMS.
Try sending from another cellphone.
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Alternatively you can send an email with the file attached to [email protected] but remember that there is a limit to the file size.
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Alternatively you can send an email with the file attached to [email protected] but remember that there is a limit to the file size.
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Mm, doesn't work for me. Email sends fine but nothing happens.
Don't have another phone to send from.
sometimes you need to turn the device on then off for it to save the ring tone and the file format you need is a .MID
myxer.com is a pretty decent site.
Try phonezoo.com
I've used that site on multiple devices and it works fine with the Kin 2m. It saves the ringtones as "unknown" so you can't save more than one ringtone at a time, but its better then nothing. Its free btw.
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Try phonezoo.com
I've used that site on multiple devices and it works fine with the Kin 2m. It saves the ringtones as "unknown" so you can't save more than one ringtone at a time, but its better then nothing. Its free btw.
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myxer.com works on the Kin TwoM and it'll save the ringtone as what you name it as. For example, if you label it Ring - Tone, you'll see it like that in your ringtones in a slightly different font than the standard.
Thank you! ^_^ Myxer does a 40 second cut, while phonezoo has a 20 second cut.
Just a thought on ringtones. I put my first custom ringtone on my phone (sent it from my wife's old phone) and found the music quality was poor compared to the old phone. The file is a MIDI file, so that might have something to do with it.
Since we can't delete ringtones, I would suggest using the same test filename for every ringtone you want to "test" on your phone to see if it works or not. Once you're satisfied with the quality/volume/length of it, then change the filename and send it again, to make it a permanent tone on your phone.
From my understanding, MP3 and MIDI files work. I don't know about other file types, but if an MP3 isn't working, then use something like Audacity to chop it down to a 20-30 second clip.
Does anyone have a mp3 to mid converter that I can use?
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Does anyone have a mp3 to mid converter that I can use?
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No, it's not possible, as MIDI files don't use the same structure as an MP3 file. You're better off looking online for a MIDI version of the song you want (someone else spent the time creating it) or just use an MP3 file.
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Alternatively you can send an email with the file attached to [email protected] but remember that there is a limit to the file size.
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That won't work. The email isn't correct. It's supposed to be [email protected]. (not vzwPICS). And the file size limit is 500 KB.
Verizon Ringtone Audio File Format
Verizon supports the Qualcomm QCELP (.qcp) file format for ringtones. The sound quality is horrible, but it works. The KIN allows you to save MMS-attached .qcp files directly as a ringtone.
I can't find a codec for this format, but there is a free web site made specifically for ringtone conversion at makeownringtone.com (used to be "ringtuna.com", which unfortunately got purloined by a domain squatter).
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Verizon supports the Qualcomm QCELP (.qcp) file format for ringtones. The sound quality is horrible, but it works. The KIN allows you to save MMS-attached .qcp files directly as a ringtone.
I can't find a codec for this format, but there is a free web site made specifically for ringtone conversion at makeownringtone.com (used to be "ringtuna.com", which unfortunately got purloined by a domain squatter).
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The Kin supports MP3 ringtones as well, doesn't it?
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The Kin supports MP3 ringtones as well, doesn't it?
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Yes, officially it supports MIDI, MP3, and QCP. I've only tried MIDI and MP3 on mine. MIDI is really tinny sounding, compared to my old Moto e815 phone. And the MP3 files, the only way I've found to get them on the phone is through MMS from another phone. I tried multiple "send a ringtone to your phone" sites, but Verizon stripped the file from the message upon delivery. I had to reactivate my old phone on another number and message it to myself, to get it.
From my understanding, Verizon's site allows you to upload and send MIDI and QCP files to your phone, from their site. I haven't tried it yet, since I have not been able to get a QCP file that sounds decent, and the MIDI files I have don't sound good in my tests.
(if you want a decent program for converting to QCP, look for QCP Converter by D.R Software. I used version 8.05 and it was okay, but I think it had a limit on the number it converts before you register/pay for it. If you have access to a virtual machine, snapshots before converting are your friend.)
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Yes, officially it supports MIDI, MP3, and QCP. I've only tried MIDI and MP3 on mine. MIDI is really tinny sounding, compared to my old Moto e815 phone. And the MP3 files, the only way I've found to get them on the phone is through MMS from another phone. I tried multiple "send a ringtone to your phone" sites, but Verizon stripped the file from the message upon delivery. I had to reactivate my old phone on another number and message it to myself, to get it.
From my understanding, Verizon's site allows you to upload and send MIDI and QCP files to your phone, from their site. I haven't tried it yet, since I have not been able to get a QCP file that sounds decent, and the MIDI files I have don't sound good in my tests.
(if you want a decent program for converting to QCP, look for QCP Converter by D.R Software. I used version 8.05 and it was okay, but I think it had a limit on the number it converts before you register/pay for it. If you have access to a virtual machine, snapshots before converting are your friend.)
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Have you tried emailing the MP3 file to [email protected]? That seems to work for me.
So is it just my ignorance or does the stock music player really not play wma files? Any resolution to this?
Thanks
some phones can but you have to make sure there is no drm on the music. if there is it will not play it
It's very strange. the wma files play on my pc & on my former HTC TP2....
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It's very strange. the wma files play on my pc & on my former HTC TP2....
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That's because WMA files are Windows Media Audio files.
I know that. I guess I wish we (google, Microsoft) could all just get along. Oh well, converting to mp3. So much for lossless
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I know that. I guess I wish we (google, Microsoft) could all just get along. Oh well, converting to mp3. So much for lossless
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Get PowerAMP.
It can play wma, as well as FLAC, wav, and just about everything else. Lossless and lossy
It also has a full Equalizer and many other features. I love it.
Official site: http://powerampapp.com/
Market Page: https://market.android.com/details?...GwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5tYXhtcHouYXVkaW9wbGF5ZXIiXQ..
Wow. Thanks so much. Works great. I love this forum.
There's a line in the media_profiles.xml at the very end that has wma and wmv disabled. You can find it in /system/etc. Try changing the false to true and see if that works.
I don't use those file formats so I've never had a reason to change it and test to see if it works.
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ugh. poweramp doesn't work either. I thought it was, but it was playing an mp3 version of the song I was testing. Didn't realize this until after I purchased the full version.
I'm not rooted (yet) so I can't play with the system files...
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There's a line in the media_profiles.xml at the very end that has wma and wmv disabled. You can find it in /system/etc. Try changing the false to true and see if that works.
I don't use those file formats so I've never had a reason to change it and test to see if it works.
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does not do the trick, it end with bootloop
Just transfer the files onto your comp and rip them to mp3's. I know this is kinda a pain in the ass but it will solve your prob.
Title says it all really. Whenever I transfer files to my phone using WMP under Win 7 it converts them all to WMA files which is pointless since the track order then becomes alphabetical not as the id3 tag lists it. My version of WMP (can't find a version number since there is no file menu) does not have an option uncheck convert files as necessary like some people say there is under the device name in the sync menu.
Does anyone know how to stop this horrible behaviour and let me keep my media as I want it not how MS want it?
I thought there was a way, at least as far as Win Media 11 goes. I rarely use it so I can't recall it off the top of my head.
The next easiest thing is to stop using Microsoft products to handle audio and music; WMP is bloated and so un-intuitive.
Try Winamp, it's got a little bloat but it's pretty simple and manageable.
itunes does it's job but like most apple products, it's made for right-brained, artistic and people who feel good about things. That's not me.
I use file explorer windows, ctrl +c & ctrl +v
Good luck
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Title says it all really. Whenever I transfer files to my phone using WMP under Win 7 it converts them all to WMA files which is pointless since the track order then becomes alphabetical not as the id3 tag lists it. My version of WMP (can't find a version number since there is no file menu) does not have an option uncheck convert files as necessary like some people say there is under the device name in the sync menu.
Does anyone know how to stop this horrible behaviour and let me keep my media as I want it not how MS want it?
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Why do you even use wmp to transfer mp3 to your phone? just make a folder on your sd card has music and mount your sd card to your computer and drap and drop you files.
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Try Winamp, it's got a little bloat but it's pretty simple and manageable.
Good luck
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I tried Winamp, but it lists 2 copies of each track on the phone after syncing. There is ony one on it, but Winamp list 2. Annoying, but not the end of the world!
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Why do you even use wmp to transfer mp3 to your phone? just make a folder on your sd card has music and mount your sd card to your computer and drap and drop you files.
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I use WMP because it sorts all my audio files out for me. I have many files that aren't in a very good filing system from years ago and basically I'm too lazy to sort them out into Album/Artist folders (they have proper id3 tags though) to make finding things easier. The newer stuff I have ripped is better, in many ways due to iTunes organising it when I had an iPhone...
Also I have lots of Audio Books and WMP allows me to create Auto Playlists which excludes those files. I bashed iTunes a lot when I *had* to use it, it was bloaty and only recognised my iPhone about 2 in 3 times on Windows, but no it's gone I kinda miss it!
Found a solution/workaround
If I turn on USB debugging, thus disabling MTP mode, WMP will give me the option to not convert files. It's not as convenient as MTP since you have to click connect, but that's a small price to pay I think.
WMP12 (which is what Win7 has) can change the rip settings by pressing the ALT key to reveal the menu and then going to Tools->Options and looking for the Devices tab. Check the properties to see what the settings are here.
Also, if you don't use WMA at all change the settings in the "Rip Music" tab to use a format other than WMA. Don't know if this will help but I generally recommend to people when you don't use the format.
This problem drives me crazy. Why does WMP convert MP3 files? With my Arc S WMP converts only parts of the files. If I change the preferred format in "default-capability.xml" from MP4 to MP3 it works, but not for all files. This is sick.
I don't wanna miss WMP because it converts to 128Kbit/s and saves some space on the SD-Card.
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This problem drives me crazy. Why does WMP convert MP3 files? With my Arc S WMP converts only parts of the files. If I change the preferred format in "default-capability.xml" from MP4 to MP3 it works, but not for all files. This is sick.
I don't wanna miss WMP because it converts to 128Kbit/s and saves some space on the SD-Card.
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This works for me...
Go to the SYNC menu, YOUR DEVICE, then
the ADVANCED OPTIONS. Click on the QUALITY tab and make sure the MUSIC option
is set to SELECT QUALITY LEVEL AUTOMATICALLY. If you choose any other quality level it will convert to .wma.
- tom
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This works for me...
Go to the SYNC menu, YOUR DEVICE, then
the ADVANCED OPTIONS. Click on the QUALITY tab and make sure the MUSIC option
is set to SELECT QUALITY LEVEL AUTOMATICALLY. If you choose any other quality level it will convert to .wma.
- tom
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damn..how to make it work for videos.
You may try use Avdshare*Video*Converter to Convert MP4 to Windows Media Player more compatilbe video format like convert MP4 to WMV, MP4 to AVI, MP4 to MPG, MP4 to ASF.