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Some WMA Files Won't Work As Ringtones

I have a lot of WMA and WAV files that WM6 refuses to use as ringtones, even when copied to Windows or Windows/rings. They also won't play on WMP or GSplayer. But they play fine with various PC players.
I suspect this is something simple, but searching Google for half an hour didn't find it.

Check the bitrate I think 190 is the limit.

AngelDeath said:
Check the bitrate I think 190 is the limit.
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Thanks. I tried to look at the bit rate, but the one program I have that does that returns:
Bitrate: N/A
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which doesn't help.
Any suggestions for determining the bitrate, and if that is the problem, for converting it in a batch of files?

Goldwave is what I use. http://www.goldwave.com/
I also marked my song clip as "Ring-put song name here.wma"
As such the great Phineas and Ferb classic, My Name Is Doof, is now my general ringtone. It was set at 44100Mz, 129kbps, stereo via Goldwave conversion. Mine looks like this "Ring-MyNameIsDoof.wma".
For alarms, I have 2 sound bites...named "Alarm-Reveille.wav" and "Alarm-Mahna Mahna.wav".
Drop them into windows and you should be good. Hope this helps.

I found a way to look at the bitrates, and they range from 16 to 64kbps. The frequencies look to be either 22050 or 41000Hz.
Does the last post imply that I need to make the bitrates higher?

Convert them to MP3, it will make your life simpler.

I try some as a test, but I'm under the impression that MP3s are larger and "lossier".

They aren't DRM-protected WMA files are they? That would be a reason that WMP wouldn't play them either. I had that issue with a bunch of songs purchased legally from Musicmatch. When Yahoo bought Musicmatch they shut down the DRM servers and the songs became useless. Converting to MP3 is probably the easiest solution.

No DRM involved.

slight22 said:
Convert them to MP3, it will make your life simpler.
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Thanks for the tip. I didn't know that WM6 could use MP3s as ringtones.
As for WAVs and WMAs, there seems to be a "signed" attribute which I can't find documentation for. Since the one I have problems with were mostly converted from MIDI files, I assume they are unsigned.

[Q] wma support in xdanroid?

I know that cyanogenmod supports wma in the music player, I was wondering if anyone knows if that be easy or difficult to port to xdandroid? (or a good way to get wma support)
thanks!

so, made a bit of progress. I looked at a cyanogen rom
I copied over the pvasf related files (file format for wma/wmv files) (in system/etc and system/lib)
and the libomx_wma/wmv decoder files (in system/lib)
and now I'm playing wma files perfectly on my sprint touch pro 2.
though, don't have meta parsing and it seems cyanogen does have support for that.
any chance this can be rolled into an xdandroid build?

WMA is probably the WORST format for media. Statistics have shown that it's even worse than MP3 for acoustic reproduction.
I would advise avoiding that codec like the plague.

arrrghhh said:
WMA is probably the WORST format for media. Statistics have shown that it's even worse than MP3 for acoustic reproduction.
I would advise avoiding that codec like the plague.
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#1, I've read many things that seem to imply that its not worse than mp3 (and definitely better at low bitrates)
#2, does it matter if I already have a lot of music in WMA format that isn't DRMd so that reencoding it would make things worse (I didn't choose WMA for these tracks, but I dont want to reencode)
#3, why would it be an issue if as I've shown support already exists in android and can be easily included at the loss of a small amount of space (been playing wma all day on my xdandroid sprint touch pro 2)

Eh, no reason it shouldn't be supported in Android, I just know that it's awful - especially at low bitrates.
OGG Vorbis and AAC are the ONLY codecs I would trust at any bitrate that would be considered 'low'...
Let me find the research...

ok, so we agree. I wouldn't use wma for anything I make either, its more of a historical artifact that I have it (and was mostly a windows mobile user before when I collected it, so didn't mind).
I'm not sure how to get metadata working, but not the biggest deal

Is this working yet?

if you follow my steps, it works to play (though doesn't get any info out of the files).
I've stopped doing anything with this as bought an Epic 4G.

I have tons of wma's. This would be great if I could use them with out converting them to MP3's

Hi kwoodyusa, I guess you'll have to tweak your build by hand, following thetoady's directives in post 2.

sad0felix said:
Hi kwoodyusa, I guess you'll have to tweak your build by hand, following thetoady's directives in post 2.
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what was said, it was pretty easy, I just copied files over and then it just worked.

thetoady said:
what was said, it was pretty easy, I just copied files over and then it just worked.
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How about posting those files here? Please?

1) download hero rom from
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Latest_Version
2) unzip it.
3) files are where I say they are in post #2 (though for system/lib they are system/lib/libpvasf*

arrrghhh said:
Eh, no reason it shouldn't be supported in Android, I just know that it's awful - especially at low bitrates.
OGG Vorbis and AAC are the ONLY codecs I would trust at any bitrate that would be considered 'low'...
Let me find the research...
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Thats funny every thing I've ever read says AAC is the worst. and WMA beats MP3. And lets face it OGG is a non-factor.

genaldar said:
Thats funny every thing I've ever read says AAC is the worst. and WMA beats MP3. And lets face it OGG is a non-factor.
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lol we're talking about the same bitrates right? WMA has a 'lossless' option, so if you're comparing that to MP3 then it's not apples-to-apples anymore...
I mean let's take one file. Compress it to 64kbps. Same song, same bitrate, different formats - which would perform the best? AFAIK, OGG would be #1. Then AAC, then MP3, then WMA last... WMA is a horrible format from what I remember reading, but I can't find the dang report I read - which was years ago, to be honest... But MP3 is 17 years old...

[Q] How to get movies to play???Z

Have the digital copy of Iron Man 2 and Star Trek.
IM2 in WMV will not play
ST in Itunes will not play.
How am I supposed to play videos again?

Treefallingquietly said:
Have the digital copy of Iron Man 2 and Star Trek.
IM2 in WMV will not play
ST in Itunes will not play.
How am I supposed to play videos again?
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You can use Rock Player or YXPlayer. Both Players will play .wmv files...

jahnile said:
You can use Rock Player or YXPlayer. Both Players will play .wmv files...
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Hmmm Rock player failed on playback. Hmm will play with it some more

Rockplayer tries to play the WMV but the picture is all garbled and no sound. Rockplayer sees the .m4v file but says it is not activated.

MixZing works fine with WMV, IIRC.

Treefallingquietly said:
Rockplayer tries to play the WMV but the picture is all garbled and no sound. Rockplayer sees the .m4v file but says it is not activated.
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Wow never had an issue with rock player... Used it to play mostly .avi though. Played a few .wmv files but most of my movies and video files are .avi or .mkv. Try using yxplayer, I personal prefer rock player but if it's not working then give yxplayer a shot.
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Same here - doesn't play digital copy
I also tried to play my digital copy of IM2 on my HTC desire using rockplayer and get garbled picture with no sound.
Looked and yxplayer's feedback on the market and looks to be the same (or worse). Some comment that it may be a drm issue...
If anyone knows a workaround for this, that would be great!

Use handbrake and convert your videos to a format people actually use.
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+1 Handbrake

khov07 said:
+1 Handbrake
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+2 Handbrake, here's a guide
http://www.knowyourcell.com/htc/htc...deos_and_transfer_them_to_the_htc_evo_4g.html
A member made a batch file that does all the work for you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724944
Edit: Handbreak guide link seems to be down. Might just be a problem with their site.

I use tunebite. Converts to.mp4. Just make sure the file size is less than 2 gb because it wont play.
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The ugly truth is any digital copy has drm and won't play natively on android no matter what those market players claim.
Handbrake can't do **** to convert drm dc's.
The only way to get your dc's onto android is to use tunebite and do a real time screen capture. I have done this 4 times now and all have been successful. If you capture it right, the final size will be smaller than the dc (mine usually trim around .8 gb's on average from the dc) and still have the same quality (tunebite finals my files at 95 - 97% quality).
A word of caution though, do not screen capture the itunes dc as it makes it harder for you to capture in 720p (if the dc is natively 720).
Good luck.

Playing Digital copy movies on the HTC EVO

Anyway to load and play digital copies onto our android phones? I have the htc evo 4g.

Yea....copy the movie(s) on to the sdcard and then use rockplayer to play them. Keep in mind not all file types will play, most will. Also HD movies might stutter.

You can try RockPlayer, VPlayer, and mVideoPlayer to play the movies once their own your SD. mVideoPlayer has a lot of polish to it.

Copy them to your SD card as m4v or mp4, not as wmv. Should play okay.

Thanks guys, well try when i get home.
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Jim M said:
Copy them to your SD card as m4v or mp4, not as wmv. Should play okay.
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Why not WMV???
Is there any codex downloads to add ??
I downloaded this DIVX demo thing and it plays WMV fine.. I tried some of the programs mentioned in this thread and none play them.

fastfed said:
Why not WMV???
Is there any codex downloads to add ??
I downloaded this DIVX demo thing and it plays WMV fine.. I tried some of the programs mentioned in this thread and none play them.
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I dont know.... I'm going to try all of this out with different formats when I have the time!!!

fastfed said:
Why not WMV???
Is there any codex downloads to add ??
I downloaded this DIVX demo thing and it plays WMV fine.. I tried some of the programs mentioned in this thread and none play them.
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Because the EVO won't play wmv without adding a program to do so. You added a program that does, which is fine, but that was not the question the OP asked.

Jim M said:
Because the EVO won't play wmv without adding a program to do so. You added a program that does, which is fine, but that was not the question the OP asked.
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Umm b ut it wont play .AVI or many other formats either.. But you (and others) always specifically mention "Not WMV files"
why? they play just as fine as any other format and as it seems everything but what you actually record needs a program..
Basically, why are people always saying not to do WMV but everything else is fine?

fastfed said:
Umm b ut it wont play .AVI or many other formats either.. But you (and others) always specifically mention "Not WMV files"
why? they play just as fine as any other format and as it seems everything but what you actually record needs a program..
Basically, why are people always saying not to do WMV but everything else is fine?
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Because the codecs natively used in the wmv containers are not supported natively in the evo.
To the op, none of the market players will play digital copies no matter what they say. I have about six movies on my evo and all were digital copies. I had to screen capture them because android in general will not currently play drm content and dc's have drm. Understand that the market players can only play content with no type of protection on them such as drm. At this time, there is no way to watch pure digital copies.

Depending on what studio the DVD with the digital copy came from, the files themselves are either going to be protected mp4's or protected wmv's. Neither of which will play on an Android device. If the file is an mp4, it *might* play if you strip the protection off, but I have no clue as to how easy or possible that is. A wmv won't play whether it is protected or not as far as I know.

Jim M said:
Copy them to your SD card as m4v or mp4, not as wmv. Should play okay.
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when asked to copy digital copy to windows or itunes, do i choose itunes and then transfer?

imex99 said:
when asked to copy digital copy to windows or itunes, do i choose itunes and then transfer?
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Copy over as iTunes
As mentioned earlier, if it has playback protection like Disney puts on their digital copy, it won't play.
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Check http://www.doom9.org/ for help in ripping your DVD's. Much easier than dealing with DRM'd studio copies.

Just google search Step by Step Guide on How to Play AVI on HTC Desire/Evo/Hero?
you will find a simple guide on how to play avi on htc, it also helps to play other video like flv, mkv, mp4, wmv, 3gp, and more on htc

Thanks not the OP but I still found this thread useful and informative
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Is there a way to play mov files on Evo ?

I am just inquiring if there is any way we can play .mov files on the HTC EVO 4G. I got a video on e-mail that the extension is .mov file type.
Any leads will be much appreciated.
Thanks.

You can try renaming it to .mp4 instead of .mov, similar format but it might not work.
Also, you can try to track down a media player in the market. I would say try vplayer but i do not think that is free anymore

Download RockPlayer from the market. It can handle pretty much all video formats, including .mov.

elegantai said:
You can try renaming it to .mp4 instead of .mov, similar format but it might not work.
Also, you can try to track down a media player in the market. I would say try vplayer but i do not think that is free anymore
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VPlayer work like a charm. Unfortunately I had to pay 2.95 but I guess it gets the job done.
Thanks everyone !!