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The Best Internet Browser

helo all
What is the best and the fast internet browser for HTC Universal using 3G connections ...
anyone have an experience ??
cheers..

If you ask me, Opera 8.60 and Netfront 3.3 are the only two contenders in this area.
After having extensively evaluated both of them I have put my money on the Netfront 3.3 now available in commercial versions
Regards

i hv used both of them. Opera provides the fastest internet experience and also the best internet experince. Pages get loaded pretty quickly

Hi kdskamal,
I absolutely agree with you that page loading in Opera 8.60 is faster than on Netfront 3.3. Furthermore the page rendering on Opera is also closer to the desktop experience. But one thing which made me opt for Netfront 3.3 is that if you load really large pages then the scrolling gets really slow and almost unusable. For example try the site www.pocketpcdubai.com and you will notice the difference.
The other thing which made me prefer Netfront 3.3 is the fact that this is the only browser whcih can handle file attachments at the Hotmail site. Finally support for flash objects was again another plus for me to buy netfront.
Regards

Opera seems to provide the best functionality and performance.
If you want to preserve Microsoft integration and services, stick with IE, but you will suffer from sluggish performance and minimal features.
Catch 22

If someone gets me an open source, I can build an awesome browser :lol:

Opera 8.6 is highly recommended
Preferably with a registry hack to act like IE6 (I use Tweaks2K) to ensure that you can still do all the secure stuff. The registry hack just allows you to load pages that may be a little strict about what browsers can view them.

I just installed Opera, and works great. Only pda pages will be shown very small, but that's why there's a zoom function. :lol:
The only thing is that the LogMeIn plugin you have to install for using this function doesn't seem to work with Opera, only on Microsoft IE or is it just me again???

Of the two (Opera and Netfront), I prefer the new Netfront 3.3 - install a narrow font on your Universal, and you can render all pages comfortably in the normal screen area. The stylesheet support is definitely the more complete, which gives perfect page layouts every time. Opera seems a bit quicker, but I find the occasional inability to tap select links to become incredibly infuriating.

Has anyone else tried Minimo yet? (Mozilla's Mobile Manifestation of Firefox)
For browsing purposes I have found it to be superior compared to others. The viewing area is huge (you don't need to set your Universal to VGA).
However, its downfalls are the amount storage and memory it uses. Additionally, it doesn't support Flash.
I'm sure future versions will be improved.
But like I said, give me an Open Source and I'll work on something :lol:

Opera 9.33 Beta version

Download it from here (free registration required)
Will be posting a review soon. If you want to see the review of NetFront's new version, read this.
Regards,
Carty..

9,5 beta already exists.

When will you be posting the review?

I think NetFront is a little better but Im not 100% sure with these beta versions. In Opera some links were not opening but I felt very comfortable with NetFront. Read NetFront' review here (including video)
Regards,
Carty..

Yeah, I saw that one in the first post. Thank for the review of Netfront.
But now I'm looking forward to your Opera review.
Considering that Opera is a pre-alpha or something while Netfront is an actual official beta(?), if Netfront comes out only slightly ahead of Opera, then I'm guessing that the final version of Opera, where bugs and stuff are fixed and features are properly implemented, will beat Netfront
Semi-OT: I'm intrigued by the memory usage section of your Netfront review. I wonder if Opera is better at handling multiple "tabs".

Hmmm .... 9.5 Beta has no text rendering as Opera Mini 4 does .... am I missing something or is it cause it is beta version. The performance is not bad, though again Mini 4 is much faster and lighter on memory. I hope at least that 9.5 will bring some power browsing features integrated.

I dont get why everyone harps on about Opera and Netfront, etc. and hates PIE. I have PIE Plus installed along with the PIE slow scroll fix and it run like a dream.... full desktop browsing, multiple tabs, fast scrolling with both scrollbars and finger scrolling, reasonable memory consumption, I just dont really see the problem with PIE.

EazyVG said:
Hmmm .... 9.5 Beta has no text rendering as Opera Mini 4 does
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What do you mean? The text wrapping? I saw a video of the UIQ version, and it actually did the text wrapping thing so text blocks could be viewed without horizontal scrolling.
The performance is not bad, though again Mini 4 is much faster and lighter on memory.
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Opera Mini is a 100K Java app which doesn' handle the page rendering itself. Most of the hard work is done by a server. Opera Mobile is a full, standalone browser which does everything on your phone.

Carty said:
Download it from here (free registration required)
Will be posting a review soon. If you want to see the review of NetFront's new version, read this.
Regards,
Carty..
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Registration not possible

Any news on an Opera review?

I don't think I can write a review of Opera' pre-release version. NetFront pre-release was much more complete or close to their final release. Opera hasn't officially made this version available for test/review and the leaked version seems to have poor performance, poor navigation (no easy menu access and almost no way to exit the application). Hope their final version is much improved to compete.
Regards,
Carty..

NetFront Browser v3.5 for Windows Mobile Concept Version

This is a beta of the new browser from netfront. It lets you use touch movements. Kinda like Safari for the iphone. here is the linkhttp://www.access-company.com/products/netfrontmobile/browser/35_wm_tp.html
I am loving so far.
Enjoy

Was released quite some time ago. Yes, its better than any other browser including opera.
I even wrote a video review here.
Regards,
Carty..

link is dead!

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link is dead!
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I think the whole company is dead - or gone to a totally different distribution model. Can still download 3.5 concept version, but nothing else.
Can't find any commercial versions to buy anywhere on the web, either.
They seem to have gone into partnership with NTT and only make for OEMs now, mainly Linux OS's. Real shame if we can't get a WM5/6 version. It's the best browser out there at the moment with some great functionality.
If only the concept version had plug-ins enabled then I could live with that version. 3.4 was also great until 29 Feb when it's timebomb activated.

I now see that Opera 9 was actually better. Only bad thing is that, at the moment there is only a VGA version. Works awesome on Athena. Since there is 128 MB RAM in Athena, I can't really comment on anything about Opera's memory usage. Maybe I'll try having a deeper look at it sometime later. Opera will win ofcourse.
HTC has chosen Opera too. Their new Diamond is supposed to have a customized version of Opera 9 in ROM! Awesome
Regards,
Carty..

I'm using this browser also but unfortunately I can't say it's a great one.
my browser detail: v3.5. BuildNo: 435. Beta version: No
anybody need the cab installer of it?

Sure, if it's different than what's on their website.

Net Front Browser 3.5
here you go
http://rapidshare.com/files/113649004/NFB.zip.html

Love this Browser
I love this browser! smooth, and almost fast. But easy to use on the fly...

I found this link from a russian site, not sure what version it is, but here ya go:
http://depositfiles.com/en/files/3497906

Opera Mini 5 + TP2 = :)

http://www.opera.com/mini/next/
I used OM4 for years on a i760 but this new beta version 5 is just amazing on a Tp2. Highly recommended.

I prefer the Opera Mobile 9.7
it works great on my Rhodium!

currently using OMini 4.2 with Esmertec Jbed Java client. love it. better than OMobile or PIE in my opinion

xnifex said:
currently using OMini 4.2 with Esmertec Jbed Java client. love it. better than OMobile or PIE in my opinion
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Truth! it is just sooooo much faster, there's no comparison. And Mini5 has a LOT of nice new stuff, including thumbnails of favorite sites, *no more separate text entry field* (yay!), more robust bookmark tools, and ...well, more.
NOTE: On a Tp2 I first installed this VGA version of E-Jbed before DLing the Mini5 Beta, but I think the old version will work too:
http://www.mediafire.com/?qwhoqymytjj
and then DL this from your TP2:
http://www.opera.com/mini/next/
Enjoy!

I've used both mini and mobile before...
I gotta say that for a big juicy screen and a phone with enough RAM, mobile and its extra features is just a better choice IMO.
but to each his own.
anything is better than IE. Skyfire even, or fennec.

browsers on tp2
rajuabju said:
I've used both mini and mobile before...
anything is better than IE. Skyfire even, or fennec.
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Sometimes only IE will work on some sites ... and if there is video or audio streaming embedded in a page Skyfire + wifi or 3.5g is pretty much the way to go.
I have struggled with 9.7opera - I like it but it makes the phone a lot less stable.
Try www.tvcatchup.com on skyfire! (from the uk only tho I think)
(its not as polished as iphone.tvcatchup.com but it works!)

SkyFire 1.5 dead

Just wanted to inform everyone that skyfire 1.5 will be officially dead on December 31st. Guess they like the money more than those of us who helped get it to that point.
Anyway, I have switched over to Iris, and found it much better. just wanted to let you guys know.
this may be a good place to list some of your favorite browsers as well, so if you got one that you like, share the wealth!

I am using UC browser and it's fine
also opera 10 but there is a problem with shortcuts
I AM using B7320

stone-dead

JerryA said:
Just wanted to inform everyone that skyfire 1.5 will be officially dead on December 31st. Guess they like the money more than those of us who helped get it to that point.
Anyway, I have switched over to Iris, and found it much better. just wanted to let you guys know.
this may be a good place to list some of your favorite browsers as well, so if you got one that you like, share the wealth!
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This is not news. They might as well have said they would stop support on DEC. 9, 2009 when they released SKYFIRE 1.5. They have done nothin but lie to their supporters since then. Everytime they would release an update for Android they would turn WM support of for the weekend and say it was for maitanence. Then turned us off for three weeks for IPHONE. I can't blame em for goin after money but they could've been honest with us.

Anyone know any mobile browsers with flash support? I found one but don't really like how the videos play

It won't be until December. It is now. Skyfire no longer works on my phone. It simply gives me a pop-up box that says Skyfire will be no longer supported, but it will not go further. It simply closes out.
I loved Skyfire, but now I guess I am on the hunt for a new mobile browser.
[using WM6.5 standard at the moment]

Same thing here, I needed to get the non-mobile view of Delta Airlines website (for some reason, Opera and IE render mobile even though I have Desktop View set) and it said can't connect.
Strange, they only say v1.0 support ending, nothing about v1.5 being turned off. Unless the meant 1.x instead of 1.0, but that's not what they put.
So...any other equally good browsers (preferably with flash & other embedded streaming support) that will work on WM6.5?
-Matt
Verizon HTC Touch Pro2

mmiller7 said:
Same thing here, I needed to get the non-mobile view of Delta Airlines website (for some reason, Opera and IE render mobile even though I have Desktop View set) and it said can't connect.
Strange, they only say v1.0 support ending, nothing about v1.5 being turned off. Unless the meant 1.x instead of 1.0, but that's not what they put.
So...any other equally good browsers (preferably with flash & other embedded streaming support) that will work on WM6.5?
-Matt
Verizon HTC Touch Pro2
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Support for all WM versions will end on DEC. 31st. They will never develop another build for our devices. Our only chance of using Skyfire in 2011 will be by porting the ANDROID builds or somehow hacking the Skyfire servers but I doubt these things will ever happen. I recomend trying UZARD for a flash enabled browser but its only in beta release. I think they have also walked away from WM. They were supposed to release two versions which have been advertised on their site for at least 11 months but never released them. I don't think UZARD will turn off support but I would not expect another build. There is videos and reviews of UZARD WEB S & UZARD WEB H from back in FEB. 2010 but they never came out as I stated before probable cause they were focused on WP7. They have released builds for ANDROID & BLACKBERRY but haulted the WM builds. Oh well maybe one of the great developers on here will build a flash browser, thats our best chance of having a flash browser in the future that would be updatable.

try uZardweb...the function is almost the same like skyfire..

zanpaktao said:
try uZardweb...the function is almost the same like skyfire..
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THANK YOU!
This is the first browser like SkyFire I've seen that actually works and still supports Windows Mobile! I can once again view sites that require streaming embedded video and flash!
It would be nice if the toolbars would minimize to full-screen, but I can live without that as long as it keeps working.
Anyone who wants a link, here it is:
http://www.uzard.com/en/down/download_windowsmobile.asp

Will give it a try!

zanpaktao said:
try uZardweb...the function is almost the same like skyfire..
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Thak you zanpaktao!
For those of you kind of disapointed of SKYFIRE, I tested the uZard Web Beta Ver.2.0
Excelent choice...

Just installed uZard and I'm very impressed
I used skyfire for a while but since the release of the iphone ver and their servers broke, I switched back to opera, But now I can watch my flash vids in my browser again
Thanks for that!

Honestly, I will never use Skyfire on another Mobile OS because of how they treated their WinMo user base.