WM 6.5.3 TG01 working .cab? - Windows Mobile Software Development

Hi
So, not entirely sure why MS went and released 6.5 when the prettier, more usable, 6.5.3 was just around the corner, but hay.
I've seen tell of WM 6.5.3 working on the TG01, but so far my searches have only pointed to roms for HTC devices (not surprisingly). Does anyone know of a working 6.5.3 update .cab installer that are for UK TG01's? If so would they be very kind and point me at it!
Thanks all.

razerbug said:
Hi
So, not entirely sure why MS went and released 6.5 when the prettier, more usable, 6.5.3 was just around the corner, but hay.
I've seen tell of WM 6.5.3 working on the TG01, but so far my searches have only pointed to roms for HTC devices (not surprisingly). Does anyone know of a working 6.5.3 update .cab installer that are for UK TG01's? If so would they be very kind and point me at it!
Thanks all.
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You cant update the hole OS with just a cab, you would have to cook a rom with the desired Build version in your case 6.5.3, sadly there no way to cook a rom for the tg01 as of yet, so your stuck with the old UI style builds e:g 6.5

rafyvitto said:
You cant update the hole OS with just a cab
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Pretty sure that's exactly what I did to go from 6.1 to 6.5 - although in that case the .cab was an installer provided by Toshiba.
I simply meant has anyone made a ROM and a simple one file system for installing it, I'm not a developer, more an enthusiastic amateur... Im likely to brick my only phone if I get much more complicated than compiled installers.

razerbug said:
Pretty sure that's exactly what I did to go from 6.1 to 6.5 - although in that case the .cab was an installer provided by Toshiba.
I simply meant has anyone made a ROM and a simple one file system for installing it, I'm not a developer, more an enthusiastic amateur... Im likely to brick my only phone if I get much more complicated than compiled installers.
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rafyvitto said:
You cant update the hole OS with just a cab, you would have to cook a rom with the desired Build version in your case 6.5.3, sadly there no way to cook a rom for the tg01 as of yet, so your stuck with the old UI style builds e:g 6.5
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rafyvitto said:
You cant update the hole OS with just a cab, you would have to cook a rom with the desired Build version in your case 6.5.3, sadly there no way to cook a rom for the tg01 as of yet, so your stuck with the old UI style builds e:g 6.5
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You actually can, it's called Image Update, and it's been around since WM5 (though mostly unused). Image Update allows special .cab.pkg updater files to write to ROM, update the XIP, replace critical files, and resize partitions on the fly, among other features, all while keeping user data unharmed. Also, if you hard reset, the updates still remain. There are some developers, such as Da_G and ND4SPD among others, working on utilizing Image Update for chefs, to put out updates for their ROMs instead of making users hard reset and lose their data each ROM release. It's really quite an interesting project, you might be interested in taking a look for yourself. Link's here.
The TG01 is the first device I know of that utilizes the Image Update system for ROM upgrades, although AT&T has started putting out Windows Mobile hotfixes in .cab.pkg format for select devices, ensuring the updates are permanent yet won't harm user data. Unfortunately, the TG01 .cab.pkg files need to be signed by Toshiba, and although there are 6.5.x ROMs for the TG01 (the demo models at CES 2010 were running 6.5.x) they're probably all internal and I'd bet very well guarded.

DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
You actually can, it's called Image Update, and it's been around since WM5 (though mostly unused). Image Update allows special .cab.pkg updater files to write to ROM, update the XIP, replace critical files, and resize partitions on the fly, among other features, all while keeping user data unharmed. Also, if you hard reset, the updates still remain. There are some developers, such as Da_G and ND4SPD among others, working on utilizing Image Update for chefs, to put out updates for their ROMs instead of making users hard reset and lose their data each ROM release. It's really quite an interesting project, you might be interested in taking a look for yourself. Link's here.
The TG01 is the first device I know of that utilizes the Image Update system for ROM upgrades, although AT&T has started putting out Windows Mobile hotfixes in .cab.pkg format for select devices, ensuring the updates are permanent yet won't harm user data. Unfortunately, the TG01 .cab.pkg files need to be signed by Toshiba, and although there are 6.5.x ROMs for the TG01 (the demo models at CES 2010 were running 6.5.x) they're probably all internal and I'd bet very well guarded.
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I knew about this method,been following since it started, but i doubt he would have understand it, since hes asking suck a basic wm question...

rafyvitto said:
I knew about this method,been following since it started, but i doubt he would have understand it, since hes asking suck a basic wm question...
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I might not know a lot about smart phone OS's but I do know quite a bit about computing in general, enough to know that when I download and install a .cab file from Toshiba which writes to ROM and updates the OS from 6.1 to 6.5... that. it. actually. happened.
I'm new to this I'm not hallucinating.
Thanks DaveTheTytnIIGuy for that, interesting to know that the TG01 is new in operating like this, as it's the first Smartphone I've used as my day-to-day handset (as opposed to just messing around with old ones) I didn't realise this wasn't more widespread*.
I understand that Toshiba never planned to release with 6.1 but delays to 6.5 forced them to go to market with 6.1 and their half baked 'stripe' theme bolted on. Perhaps the use of a cab.pkg installer was the bast way they could allow non-technical users to quickly and easily get their handsets working as they where intended.
After all it's not like people can feel like they would be able to ask for help on a forum or something, that would just get patronising ***** insulting their intelegence...
So now I guess I have research to do as to how cooked ROM's are usually installed, and if someone has cooked one for the TG yet.
Cheers.

Just out of curiosity:
How large was the .cab?
How much free storage space do you now have on your device? (Settings->System->Memory)
What build of WM 6.5 are you currently running? (Settings->System->About)
Also, if the file you downloaded was a .cab (not a .cab.pkg) then it wouldn't have used the Image Update system built into Windows Mobile... there are other (much worse) methods of updating a ROM via a cab file, hence why I am asking the above questions.

TehPenguin said:
Just out of curiosity:
How large was the .cab?
How much free storage space do you now have on your device? (Settings->System->Memory)
What build of WM 6.5 are you currently running? (Settings->System->About)
Also, if the file you downloaded was a .cab (not a .cab.pkg) then it wouldn't have used the Image Update system built into Windows Mobile... there are other (much worse) methods of updating a ROM via a cab file, hence why I am asking the above questions.
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Sorry I should point out i'm using the term .cab as short hand for any kind of cabinet file based installers. Actually I had forgotten an interesting point about Toshiba's file.
After putting in your IMEI number and confirming your carrier etc at Toshiba's website, you can download a .exe file (basically a self extracting archive) which contains a .tsw file.
I had actually forgotten it was this type of file, is this a Toshiba-unique format? Because strangely, when you run it the standard windows .cab installer screen appears and windows refers to the file as a .cab.pkg file (TG01WP_5005000167.tsw is the file, windows says it's installing/downloading TG01WP_5005000167.cab.pkg if I remember rightly)
A colleague with their own TG01 got a different file name when they downloaded their update a few months later... but they seem to be no differences
I currently have build 21840.5.0.60. The installer is 247mb in size. I have 205.13mb program memory, 262.53mb storage, available on the handset.

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If you want to be a ROM Builder....

This question is mostly targeted at the Senior Members, especially - Jwrightmcps, and Helmi.
What tools do you need?
I am guessing that an obvious one is Visual Studio 2005, but I know that this alone is not enough? Can you guys fill in the blanks?
nvatvani said:
This question is mostly targeted at the Senior Members, especially - Jwrightmcps, and Helmi.
What tools do you need?
I am guessing that an obvious one is Visual Studio 2005, but I know that this alone is not enough? Can you guys fill in the blanks?
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Many here would like to know.
nvatvani said:
This question is mostly targeted at the Senior Members, especially - Jwrightmcps, and Helmi.
What tools do you need?
I am guessing that an obvious one is Visual Studio 2005, but I know that this alone is not enough? Can you guys fill in the blanks?
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you couldn't be more wrong
Visual studio is not required and even if you had it it wouldn't be any use at all
every method i know is based around maimach's imgfs tools, and some also on Bepe's ROMKitchen. there are also quite a few variants of these floating around with .bat files written to help automate things... Ivan's and Tuatara's are examples of this. Basically you NEED IMGFS tools and ROMKitchen is optional. personally I just use IMGFS tools with Ivan's automators, and occasionally one program from tuatara's pack as it is not in ivans (but it is buggy too )
If you want to get into ROM building the best advice i can give you is to offer to help a current ROM builder, an apprentice if you like, it's how I learnt the in's and out's (Thanks Ivan).
Hope i was some help.
rom
hi
how can i find out if i have
HTC UNIVERSAL ON MY ORANGE SPV M5000
Thanks
HTC universal is the original name of the device.
Orange then rebrand the HTC (manufacturer name) Universal(device name) to M5000(orange sale name)
Midget_1990 said:
you couldn't be more wrong
Visual studio is not required and even if you had it it wouldn't be any use at all
every method i know is based around maimach's imgfs tools, and some also on Bepe's ROMKitchen. there are also quite a few variants of these floating around with .bat files written to help automate things... Ivan's and Tuatara's are examples of this. Basically you NEED IMGFS tools and ROMKitchen is optional. personally I just use IMGFS tools with Ivan's automators, and occasionally one program from tuatara's pack as it is not in ivans (but it is buggy too )
If you want to get into ROM building the best advice i can give you is to offer to help a current ROM builder, an apprentice if you like, it's how I learnt the in's and out's (Thanks Ivan).
Hope i was some help.
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So, so basically - the following tools should be enough:
1. http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=ROMkitchen
2. http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5EditROM
3. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...roductID=F8AF6708-EDCB-472A-829D-F73D951C35A1
4. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...6c-168b-474d-8a27-59b30b769402&DisplayLang=en
5. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...42-ca77-42f5-a076-f1fd8bbe79d4&DisplayLang=en
However, I fail to understand how you believe that Visual Studio 2005 is totally irrelevant. The following should disprove your view:
1. http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/06/12/windowsce/
2. 20 Minute Video - http://msdn.microsoft.com/embedded/media/tutorials/IntrodutionToPlatformBuilderWithCE6Beta_300k.wvx
nvatvani said:
So, so basically - the following tools should be enough:
1. http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=ROMkitchen
2. http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5EditROM
3. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...roductID=F8AF6708-EDCB-472A-829D-F73D951C35A1
4. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...6c-168b-474d-8a27-59b30b769402&DisplayLang=en
5. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...42-ca77-42f5-a076-f1fd8bbe79d4&DisplayLang=en
However, I fail to understand how you believe that Visual Studio 2005 is totally irrelevant. The following should disprove your view:
1. http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/06/12/windowsce/
2. 20 Minute Video - http://msdn.microsoft.com/embedded/media/tutorials/IntrodutionToPlatformBuilderWithCE6Beta_300k.wvx
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You need Platform builder with New build Window Wizard and Visual Studio 2005 and also need HTC's BSP otherwide cant build rom , HTC's BSP as I know no one had it except HTC and Platform builder with New build Winow Wizard MS only provded to HTC how we can get it ? BTW Windows Embedded CE 6.0 cant build rom at all
nvatvani said:
This question is mostly targeted at the Senior Members, especially - Jwrightmcps, and Helmi.
What tools do you need?
I am guessing that an obvious one is Visual Studio 2005, but I know that this alone is not enough? Can you guys fill in the blanks?
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I have sent you a pm Check it!
take care,
-Jwrightmcps
mwang said:
You need Platform builder with New build Window Wizard and Visual Studio 2005 and also need HTC's BSP otherwide cant build rom , HTC's BSP as I know no one had it except HTC and Platform builder with New build Winow Wizard MS only provded to HTC how we can get it ? BTW Windows Embedded CE 6.0 cant build rom at all
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what he said, it IS useless unless you have access to the highly secret BSP from HTC AND the Windows Mobile (also unavaliable) Source files. However if you have access to either of these please tell me
Jwrightmcps said:
I have sent you a pm Check it!
take care,
-Jwrightmcps
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Hey Jwrightmcps,
Sent you a PM saying that I didn't get the PM you are referring to over here. Can you mail your message to me instead - to nvatvani|at|gmail.com
And to Midget - No, I do not have the secret HTC and Windows Mobile items you are referring to ..... sorry.
Are you talking about modifying a ROM or building a new ROM by youself?
Modifying a available ROM is easy because of mamaich's IMGFS tools and hv tools.
But there's no WM6 ROMkitchen for Universal.Anyone have released it yet?
By the way,Helmi's WM6 ROM is still the best.
yinfo said:
Are you talking about modifying a ROM or building a new ROM by youself?
Modifying a available ROM is easy because of mamaich's IMGFS tools and hv tools.
But there's no WM6 ROMkitchen for Universal.Anyone have released it yet?
By the way,Helmi's WM6 ROM is still the best.
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Well, I was talking about "Building a ROM" .... as in building it from scratch. Modifying a ROM isn't exactly, well .... helpful to the PocketPC Community at large since there are already A LOT of people who modify ROMs of other people/companies.
Since you have Heli's ROM, can you describe how the battery performance of your Universal with Helmi's WM6 is?

Cooks Help needed.

Just a little bit of info needed as I am new to all this cooking ROMS.
I am using the Core Kitchen which I have found easy when extracting a ROM and I have been using the schaps ROM as it contats the RGU files with the packages as oppose to the Black Roms which dont and I am not confident enough to be able to sort out that mess yet.
The question is in two parts and I hope you can help me a little.
Part 1: when you extract the ROM what is contained in the OS.nb file the reas on I ask is I want to get a Basic from MS ROM so I can start with my own ROM building as oppose to someone elses (VERY GOOD I MIGHT ADD) ROM.
Part 2: where can I get the RTM M$ WM6 ROM from a rom without any modifications or any added packages just the M$ PDA/PHONE ROM.
Please help this is the only two bits that im really lost with.
I have a Vario 2 on T Mobile uk
you might want to look at the FTP for vanilla wm6 roms...
the last time i checked, it was still there.
I have seen the Vanilla ROM is that the M$ RTM base OS then ???
hey guys,
can you tell me what specs you enter into duttys tool as im having problems?
thanks in advance
PDAJAS
ImateJasjam (HERMES100)
Radio: 1.20.31.10
Rom: Black IV Shadow
Olipro 2.10
Telstra AUS
Not sure im new to all this myself as you can prob tell.
Vanilla ROM has too many missig files that I cannot even find according to the tutorial with CORE an official ROM wont have any missing files schaps only has 1 which i know where to find it so can put it in the right place.
It just seems easier to want to start with a RTM official M$ rom and build on it rather than hack bits out of an already cooked rom.
the FTP?
Where is this? (it's early for me, is it in the wiki?)
leo-chan said:
you might want to look at the FTP for vanilla wm6 roms...
the last time i checked, it was still there.
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Its on the Wiki i looked at Cooked Roms on the main wiki page and then it gave me a list of them that were avaliable. Vanilla was on the top of the list.
Skauk,
you can also give a look at the Dopod ROM posted here in the forum... even that its not the newes build, it has nothing added/mising; it could be a good start point.
Regards;
thankyou I will give dopod a look tonight then its so anoying that you cannot get hold of the latest builds that some of these people have so we might start without the bugs of previous builds...
if anyone knows where I can get a later build RTM that's not cooked already you would be number 1 on my xmas card list lol.
Dopod ispretty hard to work out also so anyone else help me find latest build wm6 so i can build on it ??
skauk said:
Dopod ispretty hard to work out also so anyone else help me find latest build wm6 so i can build on it ??
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I would suggest you spend a little time in the upgrading section. As far as a stock windows mobile 6 rom, the problem is there aren't any yet. Although I think some upgrades may be coming along in the next few months. The roms here are pieced together from other machines or pulled from unreleased versions. I don't know of a true "stock" hermes wm6 rom at this point. You could get a WM5 rom to practice with which would show you what to expect, and what "comes with" though.
Good luck,

6.1 Elf ROM for play/butchering

Not sure where to put this because it is not WM6 nor for the Hermes, but here's a link to the Elf 6.1 rom as provided by Pumpiron579.
I haven't tried to extract it yet - but it might be interesting to see what apps are included.
RapidShare Link
Mods feel free to move / delete as necessary.
Elf Rom OEM and SYS
Hi Matt,
If anyone is interested in trying whatever new apps are in this rom, I've made it a bit easier to experiment by breaking it down into the constituent OEM and SYS folders.
As the experienced know, Bepe's package tool doesn't always do a 100% job of isolating individual packages, but often you can get away with directly replacing the folders from one rom into another.
Elf Rom 6.1 OEM and SYS
Have fun!
Thanks! I wanted to poke around in it, but have too many projects burning to learn the scoop on dumping the 6.1's yet.
Say - do we have a good tool yet that I'm clueless to? I tried HyperCore, but with no luck. I'm curious how the image is constructed differently, and why / what benefit it is in these changes.
There's lots of nifty new stuff popping up and, well, dumping and discovering can be fun sometimes (better than corn in poo for a 2 year old!)
You can dump it easily with imgfs -kaiser command.
Is this officially final version from HTC without need of being cracked?
PaY87 said:
Is this officially final version from HTC without need of being cracked?
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seems like its an older build, 19521... not sure if its official
PaY87 said:
Is this officially final version from HTC without need of being cracked?
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Pay87, email123 is using this base for a wizard Rom he is cooking up, I do not know if it is the final or not but it works and runs pretty smooth on my Wizard http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364066,
Pumpiron579 said:
Pay87, email123 is using this base for a wizard Rom he is cooking up, I do not know if it is the final or not but it works and runs pretty smooth on my Wizard http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364066,
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Thanks for the information

WM6.1 beta expired hack?

I have a WM6.1 beta rom that expired on my PDA, but there is no future release. Is there a hack to prevent the rom being expired?
More information like make, model of pda and rom?
I have a IPAQ 6945 with WM6.1 loaded, but the beta expired, and the person who cooked it is no longer working on it. Does anyone know how to revive the PDA to the current date?
Try that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363892
Thanks
Thanks for the link, I looked at the file, needs to be cooked into the rom, I need something to break the timebomb since my rom is already cooked. Anyway to disable timebomb after a cooked rom?
I am looking at some tutorials on how to cook my own WM6.1, so I can share for others who have a 69xx.
TRY THIS ONE TO EXTRACT YOUR ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325683
blew888 said:
I have a IPAQ 6945 with WM6.1 loaded, but the beta expired, and the person who cooked it is no longer working on it. Does anyone know how to revive the PDA to the current date?
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Pls post any pictures from you hw6945 & wm6
Looks like you need to share the rom before people can look at it.
Who did you get the rom from? If you're allowed to distribute it, share it, and then others can disassemble and remove the bomb.
There are various guides for ripping from various devices, but how did you install the rom in the first place? It'd be best to distribute it as you received it, as a cooked rom, rather than a rom rip, to be sure it's a complete and usable rom.
Where is the rom expiring? Once it's booted, or pre-boot? Please post screenshots in the mean time. But again, post the rom (if you're allowed to) and we'll take it apart.
V
I will post some screenshots, but I am not allowed to distribute the rom, but willing to take it apart and see what I can do. So any tools will be helpful.
WM 6.1
Hi blew888,
Show pics with your HP and WM 6.1 ROM
Here are the screenshots, to my settings, everything works fine, but the year is set to 2006, if I set to 2008, timebomb occurs, even if I use activesync to sync contacts. If anyone can help me find tools to decompile and recompile a rom that I can share, I will be appreciated.
Very nice,
But now how can you share the ROM ...???
Your beta OS was canceled due to lots of issue with the processor speed
The new wm6.1 looks like this
And if you want you can make it look like this
There is a problem with someone that wants to copy his installed OS but not gave the NBF file, there are more question to be asked due to the attached pictures but It looks like a very nice joke
EREZYAD
What is your phone??
hw6915 wm5 modified with some software like shell 2 ,o2 last call plugin, WM6 today screen ,my name at bottom right is shortcut to new menu and shell and alot more nice things
but the settings screen shot is just a modifid one with photoshop ...
(less then 2 min)
Ok LOOOL
Yes, this is a really early build of 6.x. When I flash the OS, the welcome screen is all messed up, but I can set the default windows green them, looks like the WM5. I believe they tried to use the same theme, but I was able to fix the issues the theme.
blew888 said:
Yes, this is a really early build of 6.x. When I flash the OS, the welcome screen is all messed up, but I can set the default windows green them, looks like the WM5. I believe they tried to use the same theme, but I was able to fix the issues the theme.
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Blew888 you are a sadist . Please upload the Rom to rapidshare for decode.All as your pocket pc to unscramble him we want that rom. Sorry for bad english. Pls upload rom.
you cannot upload things you dont have 

if he had issues with his rom [wm6] the all device was uploadedas far as he is saying he had wm6 [in the past ] 

ps- he talkes about old 6.x when 6.1 is a very new thing to all dvices
No status update on this.

Looking for a 6.5 ROM like the one in the VS Emulator

Hello,
I´m totally new to ROMs and I hope my question is not rude or something!
Is there anywhere a ROM for my Artemis (O2 XDA) which is totaly clean like the Emulator ROMs in Visual Studio? Without any additional Software from Third Party Vendors? I want to develop a software on WM 6.5 but don`t want to buy a new Device and in fact that it is only a development Device I need and want only a really clean 6.5 ROM. Can you recomend a ROM?
Thank you very much!
dragi
You could try my 6.5 rom, or either Thormdac's or emrulez's 6.5 ROMS.
Theres no totally clean rom, just like on computers, you need drivers and software if you want to use that correctly. You need OEMDrivers and if you want to use the camera, u need Camera + mHubVO + DShow and without power, wlansettings and backlight you cant use some settings and if you need them, you need htcutil and maybe the shared modules. And mybe you need fmradio too. So theres no clean rom, if you want one, you can remove the other files from my kitchen. Good luck!
OK, thx for that information. Does anyone know, if there is a ROM with Windows Mobile Marketplace installed? I have now on my Device thormdac´s 23409 Image but that one is without Marketplace. And a second question, is it now in every 6.5 ROM that the Start Icon is in the Bottom Bar with that really bad looking Buttons?!
Thank you
dragi
dragi said:
OK, thx for that information. Does anyone know, if there is a ROM with Windows Mobile Marketplace installed? I have now on my Device thormdac´s 23409 Image but that one is without Marketplace. And a second question, is it now in every 6.5 ROM that the Start Icon is in the Bottom Bar with that really bad looking Buttons?!
Thank you
dragi
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Yes evrey new build over 230XX has the start menu, also why do you want the marketplace? My Rom version 0.1 has the marketplace only there start menu problems in WWE version
Marketplace would be nice, because I´m developing Software for the Marketplace...and the Emulator is so slow that it is now fun to browse in the Emulator.
I really don´t understand the reason why they made such an ugly Bottombar...it lookes so nice in the builds before 230xx
dragi
I don't know, I quite like it
Plus, the final build of 6.5 should be out a little before Oct 6th, so expect some more GUI changes
You´re right, I didn´t realize that there is still no final Build from MS available! But I really hope someone will make a nearly clean Build including Marketplace
Shady313 said:
Theres no totally clean rom, just like on computers, you need drivers and software if you want to use that correctly. You need OEMDrivers and if you want to use the camera, u need Camera + mHubVO + DShow and without power, wlansettings and backlight you cant use some settings and if you need them, you need htcutil and maybe the shared modules. And mybe you need fmradio too. So theres no clean rom, if you want one, you can remove the other files from my kitchen. Good luck!
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Does this mean we can remove some built in application from any rom by using your kitchen?
I'm too looking forward to remove some unusable application that came along with the ROM, in a hope to increase the Program free memory. I am sure you Masters have some thing to enlighten me .
Thanks & Regards.
You can remove what you want.
Who need marketplace and have problems with our roms: why dont ask these questions in roms' topic, maybe someone can help you (just like me, i want to help everyone, only thing what you should do is make a request - so if you need something like Marketplace, i can try to make a cab for that).

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