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I want to learn how to cook a rom

I want to learn how to cook a rom but i dont know where to start. whats the best programme to use? any tutorals? please help

Search for Kitchens.
You use kitchens to cook roms.
The wiki has lots of information to ramp your base knowledge.

I second the suggestion to Search for Kitchen, both in the forums and the wiki. It's all here.
Then the easiest place to start is with matts Pandora Kitchen.
Then as you get more comfortable , I like Core Kithen, he even includes a tutorial.
A great search tool that I use:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298893
It keeps me from asking questions that have been asked a thousand times.

Best kitchen documentation is available in Wizard forum. Download Faria's kitchen and read the instructions with it. Cooking concept is the same for both the devices, just the OS is different.
Once you have the knowledge, you can try matt's Pandora or RomDonald's
PS: Do not use wizard kitchen to cook a hermes ROM

is there any progamming language you need to learn before starting or is it all part of the kitchen?

FCW said:
is there any progamming language you need to learn before starting or is it all part of the kitchen?
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no, it's moving files around, running applications, and clicking checkboxes. Super easy once you get rolling.

is there a good tutoral for these things or is a lot of it just trial and error. any good tips? dont want to risk bricking my device more than i have to.

im also running windows vista will that limit my choices?

FCW said:
im also running windows vista will that limit my choices?
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What kind of personal research have you done so far?

FCW said:
is there a good tutoral for these things or is a lot of it just trial and error. any good tips? dont want to risk bricking my device more than i have to.
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Again, what kind of reading in the wiki, or the kitchen threads recommended in the above posts?

is there a kitchen that runs on vista? i was tring to downgrade the reinstall to dual boot with xp but it says theres no hard drive whe i try to install so i need one comatable with vista

Download the pandora kitchen....give that a bit of a play with.

I am interested in where can I find base OS roms. I would like to cook my own rom and for example to use build 5.2.2000 WM6. Where can I find it?

Mixa84 said:
I am interested in where can I find base OS roms. I would like to cook my own rom and for example to use build 5.2.2000 WM6. Where can I find it?
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I dont think .2000 has been ported yet for hermes...if you can port it for hermes, then you are a chef (like faria or Schap's, etc)...but for us cooks, find the ROM you like (eg. Schap's 4.0 or Pandora's, etc), extract OS and start playing with it.

so far ive read up on the pandora kitchen post and the others suggested in this post. it seems like the easyest to use it the pandora kitchen but it dosnt seem to run. the build os programme stops responding. im currently downloading the latest .net but it might be because i have vista. i cant downgrade to xp due to a problem with my hard drive. should be getting a new one this week but would like not to have to dual boot to save hard drive space plus i like vista.

FCW said:
so far ive read up on the pandora kitchen post and the others suggested in this post. it seems like the easyest to use it the pandora kitchen but it dosnt seem to run. the build os programme stops responding. im currently downloading the latest .net but it might be because i have vista. i cant downgrade to xp due to a problem with my hard drive. should be getting a new one this week but would like not to have to dual boot to save hard drive space plus i like vista.
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To ensure you have configured the kitchen correctly (ie put the components in the correct location after downloading), try downloading the Pandora Naked kitchen from it's rom thread (in my sig). It's a complete package - so extract it into a folder and try running BuildOS. If it fails - it's your PC. If it works - it's the way you assembled it.

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To ensure you have configured the kitchen correctly (ie put the components in the correct location after downloading), try downloading the Pandora Naked kitchen from it's rom thread (in my sig). It's a complete package - so extract it into a folder and try running BuildOS. If it fails - it's your PC. If it works - it's the way you assembled it.
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Cheers got it working finally. Now i can have some fun. once im happy using this one ill try your other suggestion. Thanks again

sorry to be a pain in the ass
what do you do when theres an error creating the shadow order file and that part of the xip is missing but its all there as it was unziped

6.1 Elf ROM for play/butchering

Not sure where to put this because it is not WM6 nor for the Hermes, but here's a link to the Elf 6.1 rom as provided by Pumpiron579.
I haven't tried to extract it yet - but it might be interesting to see what apps are included.
RapidShare Link
Mods feel free to move / delete as necessary.

Elf Rom OEM and SYS
Hi Matt,
If anyone is interested in trying whatever new apps are in this rom, I've made it a bit easier to experiment by breaking it down into the constituent OEM and SYS folders.
As the experienced know, Bepe's package tool doesn't always do a 100% job of isolating individual packages, but often you can get away with directly replacing the folders from one rom into another.
Elf Rom 6.1 OEM and SYS
Have fun!

Thanks! I wanted to poke around in it, but have too many projects burning to learn the scoop on dumping the 6.1's yet.
Say - do we have a good tool yet that I'm clueless to? I tried HyperCore, but with no luck. I'm curious how the image is constructed differently, and why / what benefit it is in these changes.
There's lots of nifty new stuff popping up and, well, dumping and discovering can be fun sometimes (better than corn in poo for a 2 year old!)

You can dump it easily with imgfs -kaiser command.

Is this officially final version from HTC without need of being cracked?

PaY87 said:
Is this officially final version from HTC without need of being cracked?
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seems like its an older build, 19521... not sure if its official

PaY87 said:
Is this officially final version from HTC without need of being cracked?
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Pay87, email123 is using this base for a wizard Rom he is cooking up, I do not know if it is the final or not but it works and runs pretty smooth on my Wizard http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364066,

Pumpiron579 said:
Pay87, email123 is using this base for a wizard Rom he is cooking up, I do not know if it is the final or not but it works and runs pretty smooth on my Wizard http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364066,
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Thanks for the information

usefull rom cooking repossitory

As ive only seen a thread for oems and a few people have messaged me about what ive used for my roms i thought id start this thread. Its for anything usefull for cooking roms. this incudes Kitchen tools, OEMs, package converers, themes, comprssion tools in fact anything you find useful for any cook out there or anyone considering starting out. If you have anything you feel should be added to this please feel free to post a link on this thread.
Heres what i have to start off:
Cab to oem (a package creation tool): http://rapidshare.com/files/227331849/Cab2OEM.exe
pagepool changer (for editing the balance of storage and program memory):http://rapidshare.com/files/227716297/PagePool_Changer_v2.21.zip
themegen ce (for creating themes): http://rapidshare.com/files/227716709/ThemeGenCEEnglish.zip
my oems (programs ready of adding to your rom): http://rapidshare.com/files/227730590/OEMs.rar
Lzx compression kitchen v2 (josh's great rom kitchen with the added bonus of up to an extra 10Mb storage!) http://justkitchen.info/TheOthers/hermeslzx2.7z

swipeing a post if you don't mind so i can put some cool stuff up
Good idea man.

LZX compression. The kitchen is based on joshkoss's kitchen, but with modified to allow LZX compression and XPR compression.
Hermes LZX Kitchen v2

joshkoss said:
swipeing a post if you don't mind so i can put some cool stuff up
Good idea man.
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thats what i started the thread for so everyone can add something

ivanmmj said:
LZX compression. The kitchen is based on joshkoss's kitchen, but with modified to allow LZX compression and XPR compression.
Hermes LZX Kitchen v2
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Is this the new one youve been working on?

FCW said:
Is this the new one youve been working on?
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This is the new one. (Not the newest one that will be multidevice, but the one I had made a while back for this device.) It fixes that memory leak bug while cooking and and simplifies the process a little.

ivanmmj said:
LZX compression. The kitchen is based on joshkoss's kitchen, but with modified to allow LZX compression and XPR compression.
Hermes LZX Kitchen v2
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What kitchen is this based on? If it's 6.5, when should we expect a 6.1?
Or, could we get instructions on what all needs to be moved and replaced to get it working with another kitchen? I would really like to try it on my kitchen, just because I have it just how I like it.

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What kitchen is this based on? If it's 6.5, when should we expect a 6.1?
Or, could we get instructions on what all needs to be moved and replaced to get it working with another kitchen? I would really like to try it on my kitchen, just because I have it just how I like it.
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Its based on josh's 6.5 kitchen.

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Its based on josh's 6.5 kitchen.
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Ok, but I'm sticking with 6.1 for now, till there is an official/stable non time limited 6.5.
So hopefully we can get instructions on putting lzx into a 6.1 rom (my kitchen is based on josh's 20931).
I could see that as being very useful here.

boog321 said:
Ok, but I'm sticking with 6.1 for now, till there is an official/stable non time limited 6.5.
So hopefully we can get instructions on putting lzx into a 6.1 rom (my kitchen is based on josh's 20931).
I could see that as being very useful here.
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It's the same kitchen, isn't it? Just change the OEM, SYS, ROM and EXT folders with your folders.

ivanmmj said:
It's the same kitchen, isn't it? Just change the OEM, SYS, ROM and EXT folders with your folders.
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It's slightly different from what I looked at on the last one. I'll grab this one and give it a go again
Thanks!

boog321 said:
It's slightly different from what I looked at on the last one. I'll grab this one and give it a go again
Thanks!
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i doubt you would have a problem using this kitchen for wm6.1 as long as you have the right files for the rom.

In my signature you can find a link to my 4shared account - and in it there're some OEM packages of mine (apart from many other things).
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hmmm... or not it's not in the sig!
here it goes:
http://utak3r-wmstuff.4shared.com/

just wondering if anyone has a dump for the 21501 build for use with josh's kitchen. ive been trying to do it for the past 2 days but vista isnt being nice and some of the apps with it arent working properly for me wanted to add it to tis post and use myself of course. grr i hate vista never had trouble when i had xp and now i cant downgrade either. id get a cheap second laptop just for rom cooking if i could afford it.

I now have the newer build and ive added it the the lzx kitchen ill add it to the first post once its uploaded and add everyone elses additions so no one can miss it

ROm upgrade using Kitchen V2 cooked rom
My MDA VARIO II CANNOT PROPERLY AFTER INSTALLING THIS COOKED ROM BY JOSH. i HAD WINDOWS MOBILE 6 BEFORE INSTALLING THIS RUU.
WHEN IT BOOTS I ONLY SEE WINDOWS MOBILE MICROSOFT INTERNAL USE ONLY.
THEN AFTER THIS IS THE EXACT MESSAGE I GET
"THIS CONCLUDES THE BETA TEST OF THIS SOFTWARE.THANK YOU VERY MUCH IN HELPING FOR YOUR TIME AND EFFORT TO MAKE THIS A GREAT PRODUCT FOR OUR CUSTOMERS.
TO OBTAIN A NEWER RELEASE OR FURTHER INFORMATION REVISIT THE WEB SITE THAT YOU USED TO OBTAIN THE BETA RELEASE."
PLEASE ASSIST ME BECAUSE I CANNOT DO ANYTHING ON THE DEVICE

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I have soughted myself through series of hard reset.
I am now enjoying the wonderful piece by Josh.
I am hoping to meet him personally to discuss more pressing issue.
Thank you for this privillege.
Oh what a wonderful upgrade windows mobile 6.5 Professional with more Storage.
Thanks once again
Romeo

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My MDA VARIO II CANNOT PROPERLY AFTER INSTALLING THIS COOKED ROM BY JOSH. i HAD WINDOWS MOBILE 6 BEFORE INSTALLING THIS RUU.
WHEN IT BOOTS I ONLY SEE WINDOWS MOBILE MICROSOFT INTERNAL USE ONLY.
THEN AFTER THIS IS THE EXACT MESSAGE I GET
"THIS CONCLUDES THE BETA TEST OF THIS SOFTWARE.THANK YOU VERY MUCH IN HELPING FOR YOUR TIME AND EFFORT TO MAKE THIS A GREAT PRODUCT FOR OUR CUSTOMERS.
TO OBTAIN A NEWER RELEASE OR FURTHER INFORMATION REVISIT THE WEB SITE THAT YOU USED TO OBTAIN THE BETA RELEASE."
PLEASE ASSIST ME BECAUSE I CANNOT DO ANYTHING ON THE DEVICE
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Put the phone into bootloader, and flash another rom. Hold the side ok key + the power key and hit reset. you should then be in the tri colored boot screen, & you will be able to flash a different rom.

Looking for a 6.5 ROM like the one in the VS Emulator

Hello,
I´m totally new to ROMs and I hope my question is not rude or something!
Is there anywhere a ROM for my Artemis (O2 XDA) which is totaly clean like the Emulator ROMs in Visual Studio? Without any additional Software from Third Party Vendors? I want to develop a software on WM 6.5 but don`t want to buy a new Device and in fact that it is only a development Device I need and want only a really clean 6.5 ROM. Can you recomend a ROM?
Thank you very much!
dragi

You could try my 6.5 rom, or either Thormdac's or emrulez's 6.5 ROMS.

Theres no totally clean rom, just like on computers, you need drivers and software if you want to use that correctly. You need OEMDrivers and if you want to use the camera, u need Camera + mHubVO + DShow and without power, wlansettings and backlight you cant use some settings and if you need them, you need htcutil and maybe the shared modules. And mybe you need fmradio too. So theres no clean rom, if you want one, you can remove the other files from my kitchen. Good luck!

OK, thx for that information. Does anyone know, if there is a ROM with Windows Mobile Marketplace installed? I have now on my Device thormdac´s 23409 Image but that one is without Marketplace. And a second question, is it now in every 6.5 ROM that the Start Icon is in the Bottom Bar with that really bad looking Buttons?!
Thank you
dragi

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OK, thx for that information. Does anyone know, if there is a ROM with Windows Mobile Marketplace installed? I have now on my Device thormdac´s 23409 Image but that one is without Marketplace. And a second question, is it now in every 6.5 ROM that the Start Icon is in the Bottom Bar with that really bad looking Buttons?!
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dragi
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Yes evrey new build over 230XX has the start menu, also why do you want the marketplace? My Rom version 0.1 has the marketplace only there start menu problems in WWE version

Marketplace would be nice, because I´m developing Software for the Marketplace...and the Emulator is so slow that it is now fun to browse in the Emulator.
I really don´t understand the reason why they made such an ugly Bottombar...it lookes so nice in the builds before 230xx
dragi

I don't know, I quite like it
Plus, the final build of 6.5 should be out a little before Oct 6th, so expect some more GUI changes

You´re right, I didn´t realize that there is still no final Build from MS available! But I really hope someone will make a nearly clean Build including Marketplace

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Theres no totally clean rom, just like on computers, you need drivers and software if you want to use that correctly. You need OEMDrivers and if you want to use the camera, u need Camera + mHubVO + DShow and without power, wlansettings and backlight you cant use some settings and if you need them, you need htcutil and maybe the shared modules. And mybe you need fmradio too. So theres no clean rom, if you want one, you can remove the other files from my kitchen. Good luck!
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Does this mean we can remove some built in application from any rom by using your kitchen?
I'm too looking forward to remove some unusable application that came along with the ROM, in a hope to increase the Program free memory. I am sure you Masters have some thing to enlighten me .
Thanks & Regards.

You can remove what you want.
Who need marketplace and have problems with our roms: why dont ask these questions in roms' topic, maybe someone can help you (just like me, i want to help everyone, only thing what you should do is make a request - so if you need something like Marketplace, i can try to make a cab for that).

WM 6.5.3 TG01 working .cab?

Hi
So, not entirely sure why MS went and released 6.5 when the prettier, more usable, 6.5.3 was just around the corner, but hay.
I've seen tell of WM 6.5.3 working on the TG01, but so far my searches have only pointed to roms for HTC devices (not surprisingly). Does anyone know of a working 6.5.3 update .cab installer that are for UK TG01's? If so would they be very kind and point me at it!
Thanks all.

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So, not entirely sure why MS went and released 6.5 when the prettier, more usable, 6.5.3 was just around the corner, but hay.
I've seen tell of WM 6.5.3 working on the TG01, but so far my searches have only pointed to roms for HTC devices (not surprisingly). Does anyone know of a working 6.5.3 update .cab installer that are for UK TG01's? If so would they be very kind and point me at it!
Thanks all.
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You cant update the hole OS with just a cab, you would have to cook a rom with the desired Build version in your case 6.5.3, sadly there no way to cook a rom for the tg01 as of yet, so your stuck with the old UI style builds e:g 6.5

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You cant update the hole OS with just a cab
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Pretty sure that's exactly what I did to go from 6.1 to 6.5 - although in that case the .cab was an installer provided by Toshiba.
I simply meant has anyone made a ROM and a simple one file system for installing it, I'm not a developer, more an enthusiastic amateur... Im likely to brick my only phone if I get much more complicated than compiled installers.

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Pretty sure that's exactly what I did to go from 6.1 to 6.5 - although in that case the .cab was an installer provided by Toshiba.
I simply meant has anyone made a ROM and a simple one file system for installing it, I'm not a developer, more an enthusiastic amateur... Im likely to brick my only phone if I get much more complicated than compiled installers.
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You cant update the hole OS with just a cab, you would have to cook a rom with the desired Build version in your case 6.5.3, sadly there no way to cook a rom for the tg01 as of yet, so your stuck with the old UI style builds e:g 6.5
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rafyvitto said:
You cant update the hole OS with just a cab, you would have to cook a rom with the desired Build version in your case 6.5.3, sadly there no way to cook a rom for the tg01 as of yet, so your stuck with the old UI style builds e:g 6.5
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You actually can, it's called Image Update, and it's been around since WM5 (though mostly unused). Image Update allows special .cab.pkg updater files to write to ROM, update the XIP, replace critical files, and resize partitions on the fly, among other features, all while keeping user data unharmed. Also, if you hard reset, the updates still remain. There are some developers, such as Da_G and ND4SPD among others, working on utilizing Image Update for chefs, to put out updates for their ROMs instead of making users hard reset and lose their data each ROM release. It's really quite an interesting project, you might be interested in taking a look for yourself. Link's here.
The TG01 is the first device I know of that utilizes the Image Update system for ROM upgrades, although AT&T has started putting out Windows Mobile hotfixes in .cab.pkg format for select devices, ensuring the updates are permanent yet won't harm user data. Unfortunately, the TG01 .cab.pkg files need to be signed by Toshiba, and although there are 6.5.x ROMs for the TG01 (the demo models at CES 2010 were running 6.5.x) they're probably all internal and I'd bet very well guarded.

DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
You actually can, it's called Image Update, and it's been around since WM5 (though mostly unused). Image Update allows special .cab.pkg updater files to write to ROM, update the XIP, replace critical files, and resize partitions on the fly, among other features, all while keeping user data unharmed. Also, if you hard reset, the updates still remain. There are some developers, such as Da_G and ND4SPD among others, working on utilizing Image Update for chefs, to put out updates for their ROMs instead of making users hard reset and lose their data each ROM release. It's really quite an interesting project, you might be interested in taking a look for yourself. Link's here.
The TG01 is the first device I know of that utilizes the Image Update system for ROM upgrades, although AT&T has started putting out Windows Mobile hotfixes in .cab.pkg format for select devices, ensuring the updates are permanent yet won't harm user data. Unfortunately, the TG01 .cab.pkg files need to be signed by Toshiba, and although there are 6.5.x ROMs for the TG01 (the demo models at CES 2010 were running 6.5.x) they're probably all internal and I'd bet very well guarded.
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I knew about this method,been following since it started, but i doubt he would have understand it, since hes asking suck a basic wm question...

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I knew about this method,been following since it started, but i doubt he would have understand it, since hes asking suck a basic wm question...
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I might not know a lot about smart phone OS's but I do know quite a bit about computing in general, enough to know that when I download and install a .cab file from Toshiba which writes to ROM and updates the OS from 6.1 to 6.5... that. it. actually. happened.
I'm new to this I'm not hallucinating.
Thanks DaveTheTytnIIGuy for that, interesting to know that the TG01 is new in operating like this, as it's the first Smartphone I've used as my day-to-day handset (as opposed to just messing around with old ones) I didn't realise this wasn't more widespread*.
I understand that Toshiba never planned to release with 6.1 but delays to 6.5 forced them to go to market with 6.1 and their half baked 'stripe' theme bolted on. Perhaps the use of a cab.pkg installer was the bast way they could allow non-technical users to quickly and easily get their handsets working as they where intended.
After all it's not like people can feel like they would be able to ask for help on a forum or something, that would just get patronising ***** insulting their intelegence...
So now I guess I have research to do as to how cooked ROM's are usually installed, and if someone has cooked one for the TG yet.
Cheers.

Just out of curiosity:
How large was the .cab?
How much free storage space do you now have on your device? (Settings->System->Memory)
What build of WM 6.5 are you currently running? (Settings->System->About)
Also, if the file you downloaded was a .cab (not a .cab.pkg) then it wouldn't have used the Image Update system built into Windows Mobile... there are other (much worse) methods of updating a ROM via a cab file, hence why I am asking the above questions.

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Just out of curiosity:
How large was the .cab?
How much free storage space do you now have on your device? (Settings->System->Memory)
What build of WM 6.5 are you currently running? (Settings->System->About)
Also, if the file you downloaded was a .cab (not a .cab.pkg) then it wouldn't have used the Image Update system built into Windows Mobile... there are other (much worse) methods of updating a ROM via a cab file, hence why I am asking the above questions.
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Sorry I should point out i'm using the term .cab as short hand for any kind of cabinet file based installers. Actually I had forgotten an interesting point about Toshiba's file.
After putting in your IMEI number and confirming your carrier etc at Toshiba's website, you can download a .exe file (basically a self extracting archive) which contains a .tsw file.
I had actually forgotten it was this type of file, is this a Toshiba-unique format? Because strangely, when you run it the standard windows .cab installer screen appears and windows refers to the file as a .cab.pkg file (TG01WP_5005000167.tsw is the file, windows says it's installing/downloading TG01WP_5005000167.cab.pkg if I remember rightly)
A colleague with their own TG01 got a different file name when they downloaded their update a few months later... but they seem to be no differences
I currently have build 21840.5.0.60. The installer is 247mb in size. I have 205.13mb program memory, 262.53mb storage, available on the handset.