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Managed to upgrade my XDA Orbit to the original WM6 upgrade fine, was all running sweet. Had WLM set-up for my hotmail account. I wanted to use another hotmail for WLM so I decided to click on "Switch User"...... ehm now WLM is screwed. All my messenger contacts are gone from contacts, messenger will open but tries to sign in with no account?? It wont let me add another account, and I cannot set-up my hotmail for emails as it uses WLM to set it up. When I try to set it up for email, Windows Live just loads and never asks to set-up an account. I have tried reinstalling WLM but this just adds duplicate links and has the same issues?? LOL
Is there any way of "resetting" WLM (without having to hard reset my device?
Any help would be much appreciated
so I'm guessing nobody knows anything about this? Has anybody tired switching accounts to see if its just my software? Any response would be nice
Switching accounts works fine on mine. I am using the Touch-Flo ROM from on the site.
Honestly, what the? Why did I get a trial of Outlook with this thing? Why not the full version? Thats the way it was when I purchased my previous devices!
I think it is Outlook for your PC, not PDA.
Exactly, Outlook 2007 for Windows PCs trial. I mean, you need Outlook on the PC to sync contacts and calendar, so why not the full version. Meh. Kinda glad I already had Outlook, and wasn't relying on the one that came with the phone!
You can use Outlook Express to sync you contacts.
doktor_ppc said:
You can use Outlook Express to sync you contacts.
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how the heck did ya manage that? Surely through some third party tool or something?
Microsoft ActiveSync 4.5
Pff... I've given up ActiveSync because I have to sync with 2 PC's...
I use Funambol and that works much better!
bigjezza said:
Honestly, what the? Why did I get a trial of Outlook with this thing? Why not the full version? Thats the way it was when I purchased my previous devices!
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Sure, when it comes to microstop you can sum up their strategies as:
1.- increasing greed.
2.- counterworking any open standards.
Honestly, Outlook is the worst ever piece of software for email client.
I banned it 2 years ago (and windows+ office too)
Backing up/ restoring outlook is a nightmare.
Look up in outlook messages is totally unresponsive above 1000 messages!
If you stick to windows then use thunderbird with funambol extension for sync your calendar, briefcase, notes, contacts thru internet and push mail service.
Thunderbird profile can be exported to other computers even mac or linux or 2 pc's can use the same thunderbird profile
Don't forget the 100's usefull extensions and skins for thunderbird.
Mobile sync
I have not heard of funambol before. Can you tell me if it will sync the status of emails. ie if I have read it on the mobile it shows as read on the desktop.
I have a desktop, laptop and mobile (just upgraded from Tytn2 to Touch Pro 2 and well impressed) and would like to sync the pst files on all 3.
I have found software (Sync2 from 4Team Corp) that works automatically from the laptop to the desktop by creating a third party copy of the pst anywhere on the LAN which doubles as a complete backup of Outlook, nice solution and mine is set to sync every 10 mins for all 3 of my business email accounts.
What I cannot do is to sync the status of emails with my Touch Pro 2 and the 4Team Corp help desk say that they cannot do this. With mobile communication being so key and easy today with superb tools (from HTC) to work, one of you cleaver buggers out there must be able to sort the issue and sync the mobile pst with the desktop version.
Large beer on the table for the first to provide a real solution!
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I(just upgraded from Tytn2 to Touch Pro 2 and well impressed)
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You need a new username!
phigafr said:
Honestly, Outlook is the worst ever piece of software for email client.
I banned it 2 years ago (and windows+ office too)
Backing up/ restoring outlook is a nightmare.
Look up in outlook messages is totally unresponsive above 1000 messages!
If you stick to windows then use thunderbird with funambol extension for sync your calendar, briefcase, notes, contacts thru internet and push mail service.
Thunderbird profile can be exported to other computers even mac or linux or 2 pc's can use the same thunderbird profile
Don't forget the 100's usefull extensions and skins for thunderbird.
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I have been living on MS-LookOut for many years now. I use standard IT practices (like keeping up to date on patches, automatic archiving) and I find Outlook to be very responsive, and I have a 2G mail store on my laptop. I manage my own Exchange server, and it has been very reliable and responsive. It is a matter of using modern platforms- a netbook class machine with XP just won't cut it.
My Outlook Mobile could be better- I wish I could have multiple exchange server support.
phigafr said:
Honestly, Outlook is the worst ever piece of software for email client.
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Then you haven't used Lotus Notes. Yeah, it's primarily groupware, but it was the ony e-mail client my former employer would allow. And it was horrible.
I have no problems with Outlook. I use Thunderbird for accessing personal e-mail at work, but I prefer Outlook by a mile.
Bright.Light said:
Pff... I've given up ActiveSync because I have to sync with 2 PC's...
I use Funambol and that works much better!
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I sync to 2 PC's using ActiveSync just fine.
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I sync to 2 PC's using ActiveSync just fine.
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+1. There is a limit of 2 PC's only on Activesync but it works as it should.
Some people just hate M$ because some people tell them to
powersquad said:
+1. There is a limit of 2 PC's only on Activesync but it works as it should.
Some people just hate M$ because some people tell them to
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Yes, and on the other hand, I don't think there is a limit as to the number of devices a PC can sync to - maximum I have tried was 5 PPC to one PC and to a single Outlook profile.
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Yes, and on the other hand, I don't think there is a limit as to the number of devices a PC can sync to - maximum I have tried was 5 PPC to one PC and to a single Outlook profile.
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I think x number of PPC are allowed to be connected to one PC, BUT 1 PPC can only sync/connect with max 2 different PC's. It can connect as a guest on more than 2 PC's though.
I tried connecting my TP2 to my work PC and active sync asked me to delete either desktop PC or laptop to make way for work synchorization.
What you said is correct!
Seriously, if you're planning on using more than one PC for emails, you're better off keeping them on the mailserver anyway.
Gmail with IMAP access means that I could access them from Outlook on my home PC, work PC and netbook (if I didn't like their web client) AND my TP2. And the changes I make on any of them apply to the rest.
That way, you don't have to worry about backing them up, because even if your machine catches fire, you just connect via IMAP on the replacement and get them all back again.
It is OK to use and like Microsoft products
ButtonBoy said:
I have been living on MS-LookOut for many years now. I use standard IT practices (like keeping up to date on patches, automatic archiving) and I find Outlook to be very responsive, and I have a 2G mail store on my laptop. I manage my own Exchange server, and it has been very reliable and responsive. It is a matter of using modern platforms- a netbook class machine with XP just won't cut it.
My Outlook Mobile could be better- I wish I could have multiple exchange server support.
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Same here. I wish it would support multiple exchange servers.
Also, I have not observed any response problems at work. We have several anal-retentive, email-saving people who absolutely refuse to archive their emails. All of the email hoarders have 10s of thousands of emails, and multi-gigabyte mail stores on the laptop. Everyone is happy with the Outlook/Exchange combination. Schedules are synchronized, assistants have access to delegated mailboxes, etc.
Can someone explain to me the purpose of Outlook on the TP2? And how exactly does it differ from just setting up my own POP3 email? What benefit is gained from setting up my email as Outlook instead of as regular email? I'm just not getting this.
Either way, Windows Mobile uses Outlook Mobile to show email, no matter which option you choose. Much like Excel will show spreadsheets, Outlook is the program responsible for handling emails...
In this case I believe "Outlook Email" refers to Exchange Email. Exchange is a Microsoft Server product that integrates with the Mobile and Desktop versions of Outlook.
it also allows for calendar synchronization as well...
This is a holdover from the old days of the Pocket PC. Before Windows Mobile was running on phones, it was used on PDAs. The Outlook option in email allowed you to sync your email with your PC's outlook when connected with ActiveSync. When you synced your Pocket PC, your Outlook emails on your PC would get sent to the Outlook folder on your mobile device. Likewise, any emails you composed on your PDA would get sent to your PCs Outbox and sent out.
Nowadays, though, it's pretty useless since we all receive email directly on the device instead of by syncing with a PC. I wish I could get rid of it. In other words, there really is no good use for it now, just ignore it.
tinpanalley said:
Can someone explain to me the purpose of Outlook on the TP2? And how exactly does it differ from just setting up my own POP3 email? What benefit is gained from setting up my email as Outlook instead of as regular email? I'm just not getting this.
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If you are referring to the Outlook account inside the WM email program, that is used to synchronize your WM emails with MS Outlook on the desktop PC. That way when you connect via activesync, your phone will download all emails from your desktop outlook account. I have never used this feature.
However, your WM calendar is also synchronized with the desktop MS Outlook, which is a feature I use a lot.
Commdr64 said:
This is a holdover from the old days of the Pocket PC. Before Windows Mobile was running on phones, it was used on PDAs. The Outlook option in email allowed you to sync your email with your PC's outlook when connected with ActiveSync. When you synced your Pocket PC, your Outlook emails on your PC would get sent to the Outlook folder on your mobile device. Likewise, any emails you composed on your PDA would get sent to your PCs Outbox and sent out.
Nowadays, though, it's pretty useless since we all receive email directly on the device instead of by syncing with a PC. I wish I could get rid of it. In other words, there really is no good use for it now, just ignore it.
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It's not just for synchronizing with Outlook on a PC directly -- it also synchronizes with Exchange server.
Outlook on my TP2, with Activesync, synchronizes all my Outlook-type data (Calendar, Contacts, Tasks, and e-mail) with the same folders on my Exchange server.
I couldn't do this without Outlook (not interested in Gmail for important stuff -- too many false-positives in the spam folder), so it's not useless for me.
If you have a gmail account you can set up google sync through Active sync on your phone. It will push e-mails to your outlook inbox.
The level of ignorance on xda is growing. There was a time when a question like this would not be taken seriously, and most of the responses are ridiculous. Outlook is a client app. It rather seamlessly and natively handles synchronization of various kinds of data from either an exchange server (best option for pushing data) or POP3 or IMAP, etc. This data can include email, calendar, meeting requests, tasks, contacts, etc. I update information in one place and those changes are reflected on all my other devices instantly. That way all my devices have the same info, whether I'm at my desk, on OWA, on a pda or on my phone. Googlesync is a johnny-come-lately clone that tries to replicate the functionality of Outlook/exchange.
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The level of ignorance on xda is growing.
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So is the percentage of assholes. Thanks for contributing.
The op is talking about the Outlook account that's listed amongst his other email accounts, I believe. I don't think he's talking about Outlook itself.
Commdr64 said:
So is the percentage of assholes. Thanks for contributing.
The op is talking about the Outlook account that's listed amongst his other email accounts, I believe. I don't think he's talking about Outlook itself.
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the outlook account IS the activesync/exchange account, although i agree its silly to have it listed if its not configured
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The level of ignorance on xda is growing. There was a time when a question like this would not be taken seriously, and most of the responses are ridiculous. blah, blah, blah.
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This guy's post are never to be taken seriously -- unless you're into pointless snarkyness that contributes nothing to the thread (as if the choice of username and avatar weren't already a clue).
RE Ignorance: He obviously missed the point of the thread, which lsn't "Which is better: Outlook/Exchange or Google-syncing?"
Back when I was using a Dell PocketPC, I used the outlook email sync all the time. It was pretty convenient, considering the technology at the time. Nowadays, I don't sync Outlook email, as the op said, all that gets you is two email accounts with the same stuff in it. I still sync Outlooks contacts, calendar, task, notes.
As others have said, if you are syncing with an Exchange server, the Outlook email account could still be useful. I've never done, so for me and users like me the Outlook email account it is pretty useless, I wish I could make it disappear.
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This guy's post are never to be taken seriously -- unless you're into pointless snarkyness that contributes nothing to the thread (as if the choice of username and avatar weren't already a clue).
RE Ignorance: He obviously missed the point of the thread, which lsn't "Which is better: Outlook/Exchange or Google-syncing?"
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please give love a try...
MCbrian said:
This guy's post are never to be taken seriously -- unless you're into pointless snarkyness that contributes nothing to the thread (as if the choice of username and avatar weren't already a clue).
RE Ignorance: He obviously missed the point of the thread, which lsn't "Which is better: Outlook/Exchange or Google-syncing?"
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Actually, MCBrian, yours was one of the posts that made sense. My point was that this is basic information that has been repeated over and over again. I know when you grow, newbies will come, but reading is good! A quick search of this or any other winmo forum would have yielded the results the OP was looking for.
And, fwiw, if you check the OP's original question, how the conversation developed, and my response, you would see that I did not miss the point. But let the readers decide, homie.
treo...not! said:
Actually, MCBrian, yours was one of the posts that made sense. My point was that this is basic information that has been repeated over and over again. I know when you grow, newbies will come, but reading is good! A quick search of this or any other winmo forum would have yielded the results the OP was looking for.
And, fwiw, if you check the OP's original question, how the conversation developed, and my response, you would see that I did not miss the point. But let the readers decide, homie.
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please give love a try...
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Yeah, what's so hard about just answering the question? What difference does it make if the answer is already out there? I always find it amusing how ruffled some people get about this.
Commdr64 said:
So is the percentage of assholes. Thanks for contributing.
The op is talking about the Outlook account that's listed amongst his other email accounts, I believe. I don't think he's talking about Outlook itself.
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Yeah, that's why I modified my post. At first I thought he meant what was the outlook program, but he was talking about the outlook account in WM messaging.
FWIW, I've been using WM since WM 2003, about 8 years now, and I've never used an Exchange server. It just happened that the company I was at preferred to save money and outsource to a remote email program. I did activesync my desktop outlook emails for a while there, but now I've gone to Thunderbird (great search engine) for my work emails. I do still sync my calendar and contacts, but mostly as a backup to the phone.
Oops, getting old, my first PPC was before WM 2003, the original T-Mobile PPC Phone. Huge device!
Yes, in case there is any confusion still, I was talking about the Outlook email on my phone. I just don't get the point.
I synced my phone, got to back up all my contacts to my Outlook 2007. Wonderful, but I already back up with PIMbackup. Is there any other value? Immediate push email or anything? Or does all of that involve setting up an exchange server?
Thanks!
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So is the percentage of assholes. Thanks for contributing.
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My best chuckle of the day. Thanks.
And my 2 cents. Some people (including me) ask questions to stimulate discussion. Maybe I know the exact answer to the question, but I want to hear or read others discuss it because I want to learn more about it. And BTW - the search on XDA leaves a lot to be desired.
htc desire telstra, I get & read my emails on my phone - no problem, Was using imap and the only problem seemed calendar changes on phone didn't sync back to pc. PC to phone OK.
Changed to pop3 and sync with computer at the end of the day, emails disapear from phone and the emails that I read (opened) on phone don't appear in my Outlook inbox (when i send/recieve) & still calendar changes on phone dont sync back to pc.
Have tried other email clients on phone, no change.
running windows 7 pro 32bit
microsoft office enterprise 2007 sp2
HTCsync 3.0.5481
what do i do next?
delete both accounts and re-add.
which email service provider?
Also which ROM?
celestialspring said:
delete both accounts and re-add.
which email service provider?
Also which ROM?
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deleting the accounts and re adding doesnt work.
email provider is google apps using gmail pop and smtp servers. on our own domain.
ROM is the stock Telstra (aust) android rom, latest update.
Worked on IMAP but it was slow retrieving emails.
with POP we have all sorts of problems.
why dont you try adding that account in the gmail app or use gmail activesync (google it for the settings)?
for the gmail app you can create labels which will take you straight to the account or account/label you want.
Or add your account to the email app using gmail active sync.
I use it the first way and it works like a charm.
celestialspring said:
why dont you try adding that account in the gmail app or use gmail activesync (google it for the settings)?
for the gmail app you can create labels which will take you straight to the account or account/label you want.
Or add your account to the email app using gmail active sync.
I use it the first way and it works like a charm.
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does the app support custom domains?
ours isnt @gmail.com its @cscommunications.com.au but uses gmail servers
Yes it supports custom domains.
you can use default settings from the gmail app....
got the email on the gmail app and seems to be working okay.
Just left with the bloody calendar problem!
adding entry's on PC and syncing to phone works fine, they show up on phone, but editing or adding entry's on the phone will not sync the changes back to pc.
What do you guys recommend?
-Much Appreciated
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got the email on the gmail app and seems to be working okay.
Just left with the bloody calendar problem!
adding entry's on PC and syncing to phone works fine, they show up on phone, but editing or adding entry's on the phone will not sync the changes back to pc.
What do you guys recommend?
-Much Appreciated
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Google apps sync for outlook. google it.
celestialspring said:
Google apps sync for outlook. google it.
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costs money as it requires the next google apps account up from ours.
This might be the answer you are looking for:
http://www.google.com/support/calendar/bin/answer.py?answer=89955
celestialspring said:
This might be the answer you are looking for:
http://www.google.com/support/calendar/bin/answer.py?answer=89955
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You may have the answer to one of the most frustrating problems ever!
Its syncing thousands of items now -.-
celestialspring you are my hero!
Everything works perfectly thanks to you!
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Glad I could help you. Ta.
As much as I try I seem to be failing miserably. Tried by just opening Native email app and by going to home, settings, Accounts & Sync, Add Account, Exchange ActiveSync and am trying:
email & password, Next.
Domain left blank
username = email addy
password,
server = m.hotmail.com
both SSL boxes ticked,
but I keep getting:
Setup could not finish
Cannot connect to server.
Im going out of my mind now!
Actually a friend of mine was trying that with his Arc but no success.. seems working fine with POP3 for some reason ... wish I could help
I am having the same problem...
That's interesting, has anybody actually had any success connecting to any exchange activesync server using the arc? I only have access to hotmail's exchange, but this works fine on touchdown, just not the native app...
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That's interesting, has anybody actually had any success connecting to any exchange activesync server using the arc? I only have access to hotmail's exchange, but this works fine on touchdown, just not the native app...
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I'm connected to my University's exchange server (hosted on the Hotmail cloud) and it works fine. Make sure to use your full email address for your username.
I am also having the same problem. Strange.
Sent from my LT15i using XDA Premium App
Was able to set up hotmail at the first try.
as for Exchange, I don't know - because I don't use it.
I have just tweeted se. Will have to see what they come back with.
Just set up a hotmail account too. Works without a hitch.
I want to set hotmail up with PUSH email... not PULL(POP3) which way I can set it up...
I use enhanced email apply and exchange (push) and footprint set up fine.
Wish it had more ram or a way to permanently kill tasks until required.
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I'm using the default mail client to connect to my corporate exchange server via activesync. No problems at all. Exchange Server 2003 though. Don't have 2007 or higher to test on.
SE-Naz said:
I want to set hotmail up with PUSH email... not PULL(POP3) which way I can set it up...
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I don't think Hotmail supports that. Unless you know of some plan where MS charges you money.
Rashkae said:
I don't think Hotmail supports that. Unless you know of some plan where MS charges you money.
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It does. Microsoft started supporting it a little while ago. Only seems to work with mobile phones atm, ie android, apple etc. It doesnt seem to work with outlook without that hotmail connector.
This is what I received back from SE earlier this morning.
'@Gavilaaar To set this up, you would need to contact Hotmail to obtain the correct server settings you require.'
Anyone wanna laugh with me???
Is that possible to sync Hotmail Calendar with Arc?
Gavilaaar said:
This is what I received back from SE earlier this morning.
'@Gavilaaar To set this up, you would need to contact Hotmail to obtain the correct server settings you require.'
Anyone wanna laugh with me???
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Why? They're right... It's not SE's job to set you up with Hotmail.
Did you look elsewhere online?
Microsoft adds Hotmail ActiveSync support for iPad, iPhone but not yet Android
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft...port-for-ipad-iphone-but-not-yet-android/7251
So AFAIK it's not yet officially supported by MS, but you can give it a shot.
My school email server runs on the hotmail cloud (I can access it via hotmail.com) and it works.
But basic hotmail doesn't.
FYI... A quick google search found many threads recommending "better mail client" (free on the market) for this task. Seems to work.
This too:
http://www.thesearethedroids.com/20...mail-mail-calendar-and-contacts-with-android/
Note the "\"
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Why? They're right... It's not SE's job to set you up with Hotmail.
Did you look elsewhere online?
Microsoft adds Hotmail ActiveSync support for iPad, iPhone but not yet Android
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft...port-for-ipad-iphone-but-not-yet-android/7251
So AFAIK it's not yet officially supported by MS, but you can give it a shot.
My school email server runs on the hotmail cloud (I can access it via hotmail.com) and it works.
But basic hotmail doesn't.
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To be fair, I did have a major bounce around the web after I tweeted SE and found the same information as you.
What I was asking them was why hotmail wasn't working with the stock email client but working with others. And that was the reply.