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[Q] Risk of bricking with Alpharev S-OFF

I have heard of the advantages of S-OFF and would like to do it. However i have also heard of the risks of bricking my phone permanently. Anyone has any ideas how big is the risk? As in percentage?

I have no idea how accurate this is, but I saw someone mention a figure of about 0.4% failure rate.
Just a reminder - no idea how accurate this is - don't come looking me up if yours does happen to go bad.
Anyway, is there a particular reason you want to S-OFF? Perhaps you don't actually need to which avoids the risk in the first place.

Anyone else than the AlphaRev team giving failure rates is just guessing. And i doubt that even AlphaRev knows. I believe failure rate of the process is next to nothing, but the incapability from the user is what causes bricks. If you know what you are getting in to and follow the procedure without doing stupid things there is no realistic risk.
However there is just the bad luck, which at least once happened, where someone's computer crashed during the procedure.
Still keep in mind: You are the only one responsible for your phone, no one else.

what he said ^
User errors like loose usb cable that gets knocked durring the process
or pc crash. Ive S-OFF'd 2 desires and done similar stuff to a HD2 and
never had any problems. Been worried sick each time but everything went
smooth.
Just make sure the usb cable fits tight if youre going to do it. Both mine and
my friends HTC cable slip out by just brushing past it. I use a samsung cable.

Besides what @TheGhost1233 and @esk02k said, you should pay attention to the file you are downloading and use an MD5 tool to check the sum of your downloaded file against the one specified in the thread / site (you don't want to be flashing a corrupted file). And only do a flash after you have fully charged your battery

Hi all
Aplha Rev S-off, Amon Ra recovery Htc Desire 2.2
I just installed miui rom update over miui.19 r1 and my phone stopped working and it is showing sim card error, I tried 3-4 different sims and non of them are working. another problem is it stopped recognising the sd card same i tried 2 others but no luck
please can you help me as i have back up the sd card so can not restore as well as its not recognising my card.
any tips or tricks please, as i can not go to htc customcare as i have already voided my warrenty.
i tried using different sd card when i tried to do nand backup on new card just to check if its appear on system then it showed to start backing up then
Error: Run @[email protected] via adb
and if i tried to upload backup file flash zip from sd card in recovery then it is saying E: can’t mount /sdcard
I have backups of past around 3 different backups , but they are on my cards and my phone is unable to detect sd card so can not go further.
Is there any other way to do restore on phone using backup files, if its not detecting sd card
2) I checked my sim problem as well, sometimes it shows me the arial symbol for network , but when i try to call it shows me the error ” Mobile network not available”
really annoyed as this is my primary phone.
if you/anyone else got an idea, most welcome
Is there any way I can install the latest update without sd card????
please help me and do reply, i know its not nice to see problems n no one is happy to sortout, but i will really appreciate it.
thanks
Raj

rajverma3135 said:
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Raj
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No idea how you got the idea to post this here but whatever.
Sound like a USB brick. If you are still rooted try this and skip step 1 else this thread might have some useful info for you.
If you have more question do it in another thread since it's completely off topic here.

Lol I just wanna change stuff like splash screen and such.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

go for it, just make sure you have a good pooter, usb lead and charge your battery up full, im glad i took the plunge, my desire now runs a rom from a desire HD and i have 2gb internal memory lol

Need Help!!

Hey
I apologize if a thread like this has appeared before, but i have just about had it with playing about with my desire after i tryed to flash a new ROM, il try and explain is as best detail as i can, and hopefully, one of you will be able to help me get back to normal, as im tearing my hair out over this now...
So...Last night, i noticed that LeeDroid (The custom rom i use) had updated his firmware to 3.0, and in the interest of keeping my phone upto date, i went ahead, downloaded the rom, put it on my SD, did a nandroid backup, wiped and flashed as i would normally
the install seemed to go fine, but when i rebooted the phone, it hung on the HTC screen for about 15-20 mins, so i figured the flash hadnt worked, so i went back, wiped again and restored my backup
this is where the issues begin, the bacup restores fine, BUT, when the phone reboots and loads up, ALL of my apps etc have gone, no longer apparently anywhere on my SD card (which is where most of them were stored) I now had a bare bones android, with no apps (not even market, as that was updated manually too)
at this point, i start to panic, i have seemingly lost everything off the phone (apart from the SD backup i had performed before), and only have a bare bones version of the LeeDroid rom i was using before, with no apps what so ever
so, i thought, i might as well start afresh, so i boot back into recovery, wipe again and re-flash a fresh Leedroid rom, which seemingly again, goes fine, but again, hung on boot
getting more worried still, my SD-EXT then stops mounting, giving me an error, so i re-partition it, format it, and try again, and again, it still hangs on boot
at this point, i realize im screwed, and just restore the bare bones backup i had saved on my computer (nandroid), which at least allows the phone to boot and be semi-usable
i have no idea what im doing wrong here, nothing wants to flash anymore, it just hangs, and i cant even seem to un-root the phone, all the RUU's i use just give me a "CUSTOMER ID ERROR" which i have no idea how to fix
can anyone PLEASE point me in the right direction, im panicing here, i cant seem to get anything to work, and i have been going around in circles for almost 7 hours now...
thanks very much

Looks like you'll need to start from sguare 1 again. Seems like the SD issue, might have corrupted the SD card.
My suggestion, is that you format the sd card (backup all files to the pc)
Create a new gold card again.
Flash to stock again if need be, then root.
You can download googleapps and flash it also. There are some downloadable links in this site you can save to your sd card. Or you can download it at cyanogenmod.com (where I downloaded mine I believe).

i thought going back to square one would be the way forward too, except that i cant seem to find an RUU that will work, as i mentioned, all of the ones i have tryed give me the CUSTOMER ID error, which i have no idea what to do with...
so, im a little stumped..

Your Gold Card is good? Better re-do it again. Because if your partitions blew away on your SD card, it probably cooked all of it.
You shouldn't have any problems finding a stock froyo ROM.

Moscow Desire said:
Your Gold Card is good? Better re-do it again. Because if your partitions blew away on your SD card, it probably cooked all of it.
You shouldn't have any problems finding a stock froyo ROM.
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i have a stock froyo RUU, should i apply the goldcard, then try the update again then?
im new to this, so im probably going to need taking through all this
edit: so i made my SD into a goldcard. and now it wont mount on the phone, and when i run the RUU, it still gives me the CID error..
im going insane here, someone help >.<

ok, i got it
after doing some reasearch, i found that alot of people were saying that the phone needed to be S-OFF to flash it correctly
so, after reading up, and S-OFFing, i wiped, partitioned and flashed...
and, finally, after 9 hours of tinkering, errors etc, it has flashed and booted
this can be locked now, thanks

partitioned th sd card,
works sometimes, but glad we could somewhat lead you in the right direction, by proxy........
Little puzzeled by the s-off, but hey, it's fixed!!!

[Q] Random shutdowns & bootloop on all roms!

Hi Everyone
I was hoping someone would be able to help me out as I’m a total Noob!
I have an HTC Desire on the Orange network in the UK. I started to get a few problems with my phone shutting down and restarting, my GF’s brother had been recommending that I root and flash a different rom for a while, and seeing as he has a Desire on the T-Mobile network and had never had any trouble with rooting his phone or any of the roms he used I decided to give it a shot.
I followed everything in Linkslovesandroid’s noob thread found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
I first tried CyanogenMod7 on GF’s brother’s recommendation, worked ok for a bit but I had problems with constant shutting down and restarting over and over again, is this called bootlooping? The only way to stop it was to remove the battery, even then it was no guarantee. Other things were going wrong like the screen freezing, certain buttons were unpressable etc.
I gave my phone to him and he couldn’t explain why such weird things were happening as his Desire experienced no problems at all. He suggested I try something different like GingerVillain. GV never loaded or booted up for me, I wiped data / factory reset, wiped cache, wiped dalvik, installed zip from SD, the rom would then install okay but when I rebooted the phone never ever got past the Alpha Rev S-off screen. This happened when I tried to install GV 2.5 and 2.6, I see that 2.7 has just been released but don’t see the point in trying seeing as the other 2 versions wouldn’t work.
I then tried Oxygen, again, worked ok for a while but started giving me random shut downs and restarts. Once I was driving down the motor way using sat nav software and the phone just shut down! I had to find somewhere to pull over to restart the sat nav software and again it restarted itself! Lol!
One day my phone went into an endless bootloop, no matter how many times I took the battery out the phone just wouldn’t stay on, I had to flash a new rom just to get the phone to fully boot up! I went back to CM7 but have the same old problems, so now I’m using MIUI and I’m still getting shutdowns!
What is wrong with my phone? If anyone has any ideas what I might’ve done wrong, or whats causing problems please offer your suggestions! I don’t really like the sense Roms, I’d like to try GingerVillain but I could never get it to install! I just need my phone to be stable enough to know I can send an SMS to someone without it restarting! If you need to know about Kernels or radios or anything please just ask me (and tell me where I can find out!) Like I said, I’m a noob when it comes to phones!

Same kind of problems here. Random restarts (no shutdowns) on various roms, including the original stock froyo. Happens mostly while installing stuff from the market.
Any ideas?

Sounds like the motherboard is faulty/hardware error. Send back to repair. Usually the kernel can cause problems and OCing (restarting), but you said, that it happens randomly on every ROM, so that means it is more likely a hardware problem.

I had this too, same symptoms sent it back to HTC, duff motherboard, back in 14 days and all working fine.
Only thing is it got reset to original contract so had to pay to unlock it and then root etc.
But well worth it!

Hi Guys
Thanks for your replies so far!
So is it likely that my motherboard was faulty all along? I used to get random restarts sometimes when I was on the sense that came pre-installed on the phone, but nowhere near as often as I get now I've rooted and flashed new roms.
Is it possible that I've damaged it in some way? That could get me in some trouble because when I rooted I'd have voided my warranty, if I send it back to Orange as faulty now they'll know and could pretty much tell me tough luck!
I've heard you can unroot and put your phone back to how it was, but they'd still be able to tell wouldn't they?
Has anyone ever sent a phone back for repair through Orange UK?
Thanks again for your responses so far guys!

For me it turned out that the SD card was corrupt in some way. Repartitioned and reformatted it, and this does help for now. Might try that first, before sending into repair.
Good luck!

reynard80 said:
For me it turned out that the SD card was corrupt in some way. Repartitioned and reformatted it, and this does help for now. Might try that first, before sending into repair.
Good luck!
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I agree. If you have system files on your SD and if the SD gets corrupted you might get the result you've described.

That's interesting, the other night when I had such a severe bootloop that I had to flash a new rom just to get the phone to fully boot up, it only booted after I'd removed the SD card.
To begin with I was very happy because I thought I'd solved the problem and all I'd need was to buy a new SD card, however a short while later it happened again with no SD card inside at all!
I decided to give Ginger Villain another go hoping that removing the SD card after "install zip from SD card > reboot" would allow it to boot up, it didn't. Never got past the alpha rev screen.
How will I know if I have system files on the SD card? Should I maybe try the G-Parted stage of the noob guide again to reformat the card and create the ext-4 partition?
Thanks again for your time and help by the way!

dellaclearing said:
That's interesting, the other night when I had such a severe bootloop that I had to flash a new rom just to get the phone to fully boot up, it only booted after I'd removed the SD card.
To begin with I was very happy because I thought I'd solved the problem and all I'd need was to buy a new SD card, however a short while later it happened again with no SD card inside at all!
I decided to give Ginger Villain another go hoping that removing the SD card after "install zip from SD card > reboot" would allow it to boot up, it didn't. Never got past the alpha rev screen.
How will I know if I have system files on the SD card? Should I maybe try the G-Parted stage of the noob guide again to reformat the card and create the ext-4 partition?
Thanks again for your time and help by the way!
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If your rom requires an sd-ext partition than it stores system files on the SD. Try a rom that doesn't require that. I would go as far as bringing the phone to stock just to verify if it's the phone or the SD. Bringing it back to stock is a requirement for you to return it for servicing if you realize that it's a problem with the phone not the SD.

paul.c said:
If your rom requires an sd-ext partition than it stores system files on the SD. Try a rom that doesn't require that. I would go as far as bringing the phone to stock just to verify if it's the phone or the SD. Bringing it back to stock is a requirement for you to return it for servicing if you realize that it's a problem with the phone not the SD.
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Hi Paul, is it only stock roms that don't store system files on the SD or can you recommend a rom that doesn't require an ext partition as I'm not too sure what I'm looking for? I realise that I'll have to unroot before I can return the handset but if there's another custom rom out there I can test before unrooting that'd be good!
However, if you fully recommend returning the phone to stock to test then that's what I'll do!

dellaclearing said:
Hi Paul, is it only stock roms that don't store system files on the SD or can you recommend a rom that doesn't require an ext partition as I'm not too sure what I'm looking for? I realise that I'll have to unroot before I can return the handset but if there's another custom rom out there I can test before unrooting that'd be good!
However, if you fully recommend returning the phone to stock to test then that's what I'll do!
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This ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896213 doesn't require SD for system files.

I'd first try the complete stock rom with a completely formatted SD card. You can be completely sure that there isn't a software problem with a custom rom.
If this doesn't work, try replacing the SD card. This did help for me.
If still no succes, send it for repairs.

paul.c said:
This ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896213 doesn't require SD for system files.
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Thanks for linking me to that rom.
I did a bit of reading about roms that use ext sd partitions and have so far concluded that its for A2SD so an entire app can be run from the sd card instead of internal memory.
So anyway, I've just installed the Redux rom you linked me to that doesn't store sytem files on the sd, first 2 boots had a sudden shutdown and restart! I'm on the 3rd boot now, it's holding okay but I need to put it through its paces to see how long it can go and what sort of performance it will allow before it starts shutting down on me!

reynard80 said:
I'd first try the complete stock rom with a completely formatted SD card. You can be completely sure that there isn't a software problem with a custom rom.
If this doesn't work, try replacing the SD card. This did help for me.
If still no succes, send it for repairs.
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Hi Reynard. If the Redux rom I've just flashed (less than 10 minutes ago) doesn't use the sd for system files, then if it keeps rebooting on me would that diagnose a faulty motherboard as reliably as using a stock rom?
I'm gonna unroot and flash a stock rom soon anyway, that way I can be sure before I send it back to Orange for repair, although apparently there isn't an official Orange UK stock rom available so I'm just gonna have to get as close as I can and hope they don't notice!

dellaclearing said:
Hi Reynard. If the Redux rom I've just flashed (less than 10 minutes ago) doesn't use the sd for system files, then if it keeps rebooting on me would that diagnose a faulty motherboard as reliably as using a stock rom?
I'm gonna unroot and flash a stock rom soon anyway, that way I can be sure before I send it back to Orange for repair, although apparently there isn't an official Orange UK stock rom available so I'm just gonna have to get as close as I can and hope they don't notice!
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Probably there is a ROM just that it hasn't been leaked so I hope you won't get in trouble.

paul.c said:
Probably there is a ROM just that it hasn't been leaked so I hope you won't get in trouble.
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Haha! Me too!

Dayamn! I didn't have a reboot all day on Redux, got home from work and installed Sygic sat nav software and the phone rebooted 3 times just while downloading the map! I had to remove the battery once as well.
Decided I'd just test Google maps navigation while driving to pick up the Mrs from work and it shut down on me
If I can get hold of another sd card to test I'll see if it makes a difference, but there's not really a lot more I can do now other than unroot and send it back to Orange. The strange thing is that it never used to reboot half as much on the stock rom the phone came with, and it never did it while I was sat nav'ing ever. It just used to happen randomly when I was texting or web browsing. Odd.
Where might be the best place to find the closest to stock rom for Desire Orange UK?

Just wanted to update you all.
I found my original SD card that came with the phone, I fully formatted it and then did a completely fresh install of Redux and performed the same tests and got the same results. Still crashed and rebooted! So that tells me it's the phone and not the card!
I'll be restoring to stock and calling Orange tomorrow to get a replacement / repair.
Thanks to everyone who helped me out along the way, your time and effort is very much appreciated!

Hi guys,
I made a goldcard and tried installing the stock ruu, it seemed to work but when I hold vol down and power on it still says:
AlphaRev
BRAVO PVT1 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT 6.93.1002
I read on the Alpharev website that recent versions of Alpharev aren't overwritten by stock ruu's hboot so it must first be downgraded. I used android flasher to flash the Alpharev downgrader, then it just froze at the "why so serious" screen. I was advised to flash the stock bravo hboot found on the alpharev website, which I did and then I was finally able to install the ruu. Obviously I've done something wrong and I'm guessing its flashing the stock bravo hboot...
Would it be okay to use android flasher again to run just the downgrader image, and then using fastboot flash the ruu again?
Any ideas? I don't want to risk sending my phone back for repair still saying S-Off!

Okay, I kept reading through XDA and found a post by Dzumagos advising someone to do exactly what I just asked, use Android Flasher to run the Alpharev downgrader image and then reflash stock ruu, so I grew a set and tried it myself!
Bravo PVT1 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.93.001
Voila! I'm now back to S-ON, so now I feel I'm ready to call Orange and tell them about the constant shutdowns and restarts, which have still been happening on stock btw, the phone also feels really hot too!
I just hope the replacement they send me is issue free!
Thanks again to everyone who helped out in this thread and in the orange uk ruu thread!
Cheers everyone!

[Q] eMMC issues - how do i tell if i have a bricked Desire Z?

Not sure how to start this...
first off, i'm pretty sure my phone now has a fried eMMC chip, but in reality, i don't really know...
the reason i say i think it's fried is because no matter what method i try to flash anything to my phone with...it simply won't do it...most fastboot commands will not work anymore, my computer won't load the devise anymore so no adb commands, bootloader fails everything when trying to flash a stock rom and gets hung up updating the radio_v2....i've tried running official RUU's but it keeps telling me my phone has less then 30% battery life, wich is simply false. and i can't get into my recovery without it crashing the phone and not letting me turn it back on (till battery pull).
i went onto the #g2root and #xda-devs channels on the freenode server in mIRC, and had talked to a couple people there who also think i probably fried the eMMC chip (making it impossible to write or read anything from the phone), but again...i'm really going on word of mouth rather then first hand knowledge here.
but again today, i ran into yet another possible solution and i just want to know if i should bother trying or if i have a chance.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1314629 is the thread, but i think this is for a desire s, so i suppose my question would be...would this method still work if i just used the right files or, again, am i screwed?
i have an HTC Desire Z that i got from Bell in Canada. it has gotten an OTA firmware update, and does not have root or s-off
if i remember right, everything is still stock, completely. minus the now possibly fried eMMC chip lol
thank you in advance and i will try to edit this post as neccessary so as to update any needed info.
please ask me questions as to what i have done and i will try my best to let you know. i know i had followed probably too many guides for rooting with too many methods lol next time, xda-dev's wiki guide, and that's it!
[edit:] i just found this too...lemme know if this helps..... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284196
[edit:] i do know that when i go into my recovery, it does say those things (e: can't mount cache, blah blah) but it crash's out and doesn't actually get me into the recovery console. if so i would be able to envoke some adb commands and just finish this, but that's adding to the issue really...not being able to get into my recovery.

i feel with you.
it happend for me just today morning.
got my desire z on thursday, installed usual apps.
it started to freeze in random app installations. the last softreset threw it into a boot loop with the same problems you stated above.
you can get pre formated desire z emmc's for around 30 - 40 euro i think. but soldering them on your own requires some skill and tools since their contacs are below and not on the side.
this accident threw me back to my old htc touch diamond (with windows mobile 6.1 D: )

Random Reboots Problem - please help

I simply have done all i can - and it seems that i cant do it right. Please consider to help me, because im noob.
Before i state my problem i should say that i have googled an crossed xda forum for 4 days and without any improvement.
Problem I have is that, my phone randomly reboots at no particular time or place - but here come the details:
First, for purpose of unlocking phone from SIM lock from carrier, it was S-OFFed and rooted by someone else (previous owner).
Rom was installed - Oxygen 2.3.2. and it worked for few months without bugs.
Then, one day it restarted and stuck in bootloops, but it came up for few seconds, or some time (but not for long), and then again restarted and so on. Eventually it held enough to do a factory reset which generally helped, but with one strange thing - clock couldnt sync and loosed about an hour for 5-6 hours (really strange).
Then i decided to try some other ROM hoping to resolve clock issue.
When I go into HBOOt it says:
--- AlphaRev ---
BRAVO PVT4 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-6.93.1002
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.11.05.27
Aug 10 2010 17:52:10
Then i went here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...p?t=1315961URL and done REALLY step by step whole procedure.
ROM was installed, along with -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1408936
It worked flawllessly for about half an hour an then started rebooting on no particular action - sometimes went up for some time few secs to 10-20 mins an then reboot and sometimes it got stuck in endless loop (only pulling the battery helped).
Since it went wrong, i tried to RESTORE previosly made BACKUP of mentioned OXYGEN ROM, but sadly, same thing happened all the time.
I was devasteted, didnt know what to do so I decided to get back to STOCK ROM via RUU. (thought it would solve the problem)
I used RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.14_Radio_32.49.00 .32U_5.11.05.27_release_224699_signed
Phone stayed S-OFF (obviosly for AlphaRev HBOOT) but have been preety stable comparing what was happening before, in terms: restarted few times for a day and allways rebooted back. Then i inserted other SIM card ant it began again with restarts as soon it went up and been up for 10-20 secs. After few reboots, it stabilised, but had different problem: couldnt add new account, and couldnt remove one I set up at the beginning (message said that i should do FACTORY reset if i want account removed). So I did factory reset - and NOTHING HAPPENED - evrything stayed exactly as it was - with account and everything.
Then i came across BORTAKs Guide ->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1275632 and followed step one, although it doesnt exactly match my probs - in terms that my phone boots up most of the time, but restarts randomly...
So I did what I was supposed to do and installed CyanogenMod after following step 10 Amon Ra's Recovery (I have PVT4 device) but same thing continues to happen - reboots, apparently on trying to add account on phone...
SORRY FOR SUCH LONG POST, but Im out of ideas, and new to this so PLEASE< PLEASE HELP me if u somehow can...
Thanks in advice

goxyendzy said:
I simply have done all i can - and it seems that i cant do it right. Please consider to help me, because im noob.
Before i state my problem i should say that i have googled an crossed xda forum for 4 days and without any improvement.
Problem I have is that, my phone randomly reboots at no particular time or place - but here come the details:
First, for purpose of unlocking phone from SIM lock from carrier, it was S-OFFed and rooted by someone else (previous owner).
Rom was installed - Oxygen 2.3.2. and it worked for few months without bugs.
Then, one day it restarted and stuck in bootloops, but it came up for few seconds, or some time (but not for long), and then again restarted and so on. Eventually it held enough to do a factory reset which generally helped, but with one strange thing - clock couldnt sync and loosed about an hour for 5-6 hours (really strange).
Then i decided to try some other ROM hoping to resolve clock issue.
When I go into HBOOt it says:
--- AlphaRev ---
BRAVO PVT4 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-6.93.1002
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.11.05.27
Aug 10 2010 17:52:10
Then i went here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...p?t=1315961URL and done REALLY step by step whole procedure.
ROM was installed, along with -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1408936
It worked flawllessly for about half an hour an then started rebooting on no particular action - sometimes went up for some time few secs to 10-20 mins an then reboot and sometimes it got stuck in endless loop (only pulling the battery helped).
Since it went wrong, i tried to RESTORE previosly made BACKUP of mentioned OXYGEN ROM, but sadly, same thing happened all the time.
I was devasteted, didnt know what to do so I decided to get back to STOCK ROM via RUU. (thought it would solve the problem)
I used RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.14_Radio_32.49.00 .32U_5.11.05.27_release_224699_signed
Phone stayed S-OFF (obviosly for AlphaRev HBOOT) but have been preety stable comparing what was happening before, in terms: restarted few times for a day and allways rebooted back. Then i inserted other SIM card ant it began again with restarts as soon it went up and been up for 10-20 secs. After few reboots, it stabilised, but had different problem: couldnt add new account, and couldnt remove one I set up at the beginning (message said that i should do FACTORY reset if i want account removed). So I did factory reset - and NOTHING HAPPENED - evrything stayed exactly as it was - with account and everything.
Then i came across BORTAKs Guide ->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1275632 and followed step one, although it doesnt exactly match my probs - in terms that my phone boots up most of the time, but restarts randomly...
So I did what I was supposed to do and installed CyanogenMod after following step 10 Amon Ra's Recovery (I have PVT4 device) but same thing continues to happen - reboots, apparently on trying to add account on phone...
SORRY FOR SUCH LONG POST, but Im out of ideas, and new to this so PLEASE< PLEASE HELP me if u somehow can...
Thanks in advice
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Did you try to run RUU after flashing Alpharev downgrade to achieve S-ON gain, or you just ran it over Alpharev stock?
Also did you try to format sd card or to remove it from phone and than to boot it up?
It all seems like it was SIM unlocked by a "fake" code so that are the issues that can happen.
Plus: to gain SIM unlock you don't need S-off and root.

nlooooo said:
Did you try to run RUU after flashing Alpharev downgrade to achieve S-ON gain, or you just ran it over Alpharev stock?
Also did you try to format sd card or to remove it from phone and than to boot it up?
It all seems like it was SIM unlocked by a "fake" code so that are the issues that can happen.
Plus: to gain SIM unlock you don't need S-off and root.
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I ran it over Alpharev... Im really new to this so i ask for help.
U say that i should:
1) flash AlphaRev downgrade to achieve S-ON gain (HOW exactly? please link to some guide if exists)
2) then run RUU
I tried formatting SD card later, removed it, even change card and latest ROM (Cyanogen) is on other SD card and its all the same...
Thanks for fast reply

goxyendzy said:
I ran it over Alpharev... Im really new to this so i ask for help.
U say that i should:
1) flash AlphaRev downgrade to achieve S-ON gain (HOW exactly? please link to some guide if exists)
2) then run RUU
I tried formatting SD card later, removed it, even change card and latest ROM (Cyanogen) is on other SD card and its all the same...
Thanks for fast reply
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Yes, both steps. With that you will overwrite both hboot and radio to stock ones, that could be the things that made you problems. You will get S-on after flashing of RUU (I recomend 2.3) when your hboot is overwritten.
This is a good guide how to use ADB and fastboot (you will need fastboot for flashing of hboot):
http://androidforums.com/desire-all...fastboot-windows-updated-1st-june-2011-a.html
But reading your post I think that the problem is with unlocking (SIM). If a guy that sold you the phone said he did it with S-off and root he is laying, as I told you it can't be done with that. The problem can occur when you unlock the phone with a "fake code" that actually removes the part of phone's software used to check for carrier and not replacing critical parts (something like that).
There's a tool:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943726
Try to run it and see what you will get.

nlooooo said:
Yes, both steps. With that you will overwrite both hboot and radio to stock ones, that could be the things that made you problems. You will get S-on after flashing of RUU (I recomend 2.3) when your hboot is overwritten.
This is a good guide how to use ADB and fastboot (you will need fastboot for flashing of hboot):
http://androidforums.com/desire-all...fastboot-windows-updated-1st-june-2011-a.html
But reading your post I think that the problem is with unlocking (SIM). If a guy that sold you the phone said he did it with S-off and root he is laying, as I told you it can't be done with that. The problem can occur when you unlock the phone with a "fake code" that actually removes the part of phone's software used to check for carrier and not replacing critical parts (something like that).
There's a tool:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943726
Try to run it and see what you will get.
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Thanks in advance, ill try everything when i setup everything properly. Will update on progress! :good:

OK, at fisrt I have removed both SIM and SD cards and then:
1) flashed AlphaRev downgrade to achieve S-ON
2) then run RUU
Inserted only SIM card, and for now without reboots - but this was only 15 mins ago, so ill keep informing about case after testing, in hope not to get another reboot ever.
What I realised is thatr I dont have recovery?
Is this supposed to be? And how will I resolve problem If something unwanted occur?
Thanks a lot for Your help!

goxyendzy said:
OK, at fisrt I have removed both SIM and SD cards and then:
1) flashed AlphaRev downgrade to achieve S-ON
2) then run RUU
Inserted only SIM card, and for now without reboots - but this was only 15 mins ago, so ill keep informing about case after testing, in hope not to get another reboot ever.
What I realised is thatr I dont have recovery?
Is this supposed to be? And how will I resolve problem If something unwanted occur?
Thanks a lot for Your help!
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You have recovery, but it is stock one (pretty different to custom ones ).
Now after you flashed 2.3 RUU you probably have 1.02 hboot, so go here:
revolutionary.io
Download the tool and follow the process described to achieve s-off and root again (the problem you have have nothing connected with s-off and root but probably with some parts of system software which might be recovered now). During the process you will flash Clockworkmod recovery, from which you will install Superuser.apk. After that reboot the phone and go here:
4ext.net
Download Recovery updater, install it to your phone and flash 4ext recovery. Than from recovery you can restore backup you have from your old rom, but my suggestion is to go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
and find something for you, cause I think that you have to start from scratch to have a proper software (cause you already had problems with previous one).
If you're up to Oxygen again go here:
http://download.oxygen.im/roms/
but I think that there are a few roms on previous link that are based on Oxygen, but a little bit modified with some extra options.

Well, thanks really, but for now I would like to live things as they are...
I dont mind beeng S-ON and not rooted, if phone doesnt reboot again. I just need it functioning, without advanced options.
Are U suggesting that STOCK ROM is not the way I should go?

goxyendzy said:
Well, thanks really, but for now I would like to live things as they are...
I dont mind beeng S-ON and not rooted, if phone doesnt reboot again. I just need it functioning, without advanced options.
Are U suggesting that STOCK ROM is not the way I should go?
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It's the way I went for a long time until I started experimenting, mostly because a lack of space. After that I found the thread I posted (All things desire) and wanted to try some advanced roms (Sense 3.0, 3.5) even made some stuff on my own on that way.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23101063#post23101063
My opinion is that stock roms are the best solution foe our device, cause it runs smoothest and I think that Sense is something that brings HTC devices above all other android devices. I've never been a fan of AOSP software but I tried it, just to see how it feels. I even used MIUI rom for some time as the first software option.
Anyway, the story with memory problem stays, but the main point for getting s-off and root again are diagnostic and flashing options cause on s-off device you can flash all crucial partitions that can cause problems (hboot and radio-see attachment) and change partition table layout to gain space (see alpharev.nl)
I hope I helped!

nlooooo said:
It's the way I went for a long time until I started experimenting, mostly because a lack of space. After that I found the thread I posted (All things desire) and wanted to try some advanced roms (Sense 3.0, 3.5) even made some stuff on my own on that way.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23101063#post23101063
My opinion is that stock roms are the best solution foe our device, cause it runs smoothest and I think that Sense is something that brings HTC devices above all other android devices. I've never been a fan of AOSP software but I tried it, just to see how it feels. I even used MIUI rom for some time as the first software option.
Anyway, the story with memory problem stays, but the main point for getting s-off and root again are diagnostic and flashing options cause on s-off device you can flash all crucial partitions that can cause problems (hboot and radio-see attachment) and change partition table layout to gain space (see alpharev.nl)
I hope I helped!
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Since there are no reboots yet (I really hope its in past) U have been more than helpful! :good:
I still havent inserted sd card, and been consedering of getting a new one (with higher speed).
Also, as I see that U R my countryman (ko ce kome ako ne svoj svome), U have earned a few drinks when U come to my town!
I will be updating how things are regarding of this case.
Cheers :highfive:

goxyendzy said:
Since there are no reboots yet (I really hope its in past) U have been more than helpful! :good:
I still havent inserted sd card, and been consedering of getting a new one (with higher speed).
Also, as I see that U R my countryman (ko ce kome ako ne svoj svome), U have earned a few drinks when U come to my town!
I will be updating how things are regarding of this case.
Cheers :highfive:
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No problem, I'm holding you for your word!
If you have no reboots try to insert different carriers sim cards and see if it's still unlocked.

reboots again
nlooooo said:
No problem, I'm holding you for your word!
If you have no reboots try to insert different carriers sim cards and see if it's still unlocked.
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Reboots again...
After half a day of normal usage, I tried inserting another SIM (but from same carrier) and it started again...
Not so often but from time to time it reboots.
So I guess, at the end it seems it is hardware fault.
One strange thing thou (and it makes me wonder): When I try removing account it says I should do Factory Reset if I want to change that basic acc. But afrer performing Factory Reset NOTHING happens? Account is still there, along with other settings and/or installed apps.
Any ideas?
Invitation still holds