I simply have done all i can - and it seems that i cant do it right. Please consider to help me, because im noob.
Before i state my problem i should say that i have googled an crossed xda forum for 4 days and without any improvement.
Problem I have is that, my phone randomly reboots at no particular time or place - but here come the details:
First, for purpose of unlocking phone from SIM lock from carrier, it was S-OFFed and rooted by someone else (previous owner).
Rom was installed - Oxygen 2.3.2. and it worked for few months without bugs.
Then, one day it restarted and stuck in bootloops, but it came up for few seconds, or some time (but not for long), and then again restarted and so on. Eventually it held enough to do a factory reset which generally helped, but with one strange thing - clock couldnt sync and loosed about an hour for 5-6 hours (really strange).
Then i decided to try some other ROM hoping to resolve clock issue.
When I go into HBOOt it says:
--- AlphaRev ---
BRAVO PVT4 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-6.93.1002
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.11.05.27
Aug 10 2010 17:52:10
Then i went here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...p?t=1315961URL and done REALLY step by step whole procedure.
ROM was installed, along with -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1408936
It worked flawllessly for about half an hour an then started rebooting on no particular action - sometimes went up for some time few secs to 10-20 mins an then reboot and sometimes it got stuck in endless loop (only pulling the battery helped).
Since it went wrong, i tried to RESTORE previosly made BACKUP of mentioned OXYGEN ROM, but sadly, same thing happened all the time.
I was devasteted, didnt know what to do so I decided to get back to STOCK ROM via RUU. (thought it would solve the problem)
I used RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.14_Radio_32.49.00 .32U_5.11.05.27_release_224699_signed
Phone stayed S-OFF (obviosly for AlphaRev HBOOT) but have been preety stable comparing what was happening before, in terms: restarted few times for a day and allways rebooted back. Then i inserted other SIM card ant it began again with restarts as soon it went up and been up for 10-20 secs. After few reboots, it stabilised, but had different problem: couldnt add new account, and couldnt remove one I set up at the beginning (message said that i should do FACTORY reset if i want account removed). So I did factory reset - and NOTHING HAPPENED - evrything stayed exactly as it was - with account and everything.
Then i came across BORTAKs Guide ->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1275632 and followed step one, although it doesnt exactly match my probs - in terms that my phone boots up most of the time, but restarts randomly...
So I did what I was supposed to do and installed CyanogenMod after following step 10 Amon Ra's Recovery (I have PVT4 device) but same thing continues to happen - reboots, apparently on trying to add account on phone...
SORRY FOR SUCH LONG POST, but Im out of ideas, and new to this so PLEASE< PLEASE HELP me if u somehow can...
Thanks in advice
goxyendzy said:
I simply have done all i can - and it seems that i cant do it right. Please consider to help me, because im noob.
Before i state my problem i should say that i have googled an crossed xda forum for 4 days and without any improvement.
Problem I have is that, my phone randomly reboots at no particular time or place - but here come the details:
First, for purpose of unlocking phone from SIM lock from carrier, it was S-OFFed and rooted by someone else (previous owner).
Rom was installed - Oxygen 2.3.2. and it worked for few months without bugs.
Then, one day it restarted and stuck in bootloops, but it came up for few seconds, or some time (but not for long), and then again restarted and so on. Eventually it held enough to do a factory reset which generally helped, but with one strange thing - clock couldnt sync and loosed about an hour for 5-6 hours (really strange).
Then i decided to try some other ROM hoping to resolve clock issue.
When I go into HBOOt it says:
--- AlphaRev ---
BRAVO PVT4 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-6.93.1002
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.11.05.27
Aug 10 2010 17:52:10
Then i went here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...p?t=1315961URL and done REALLY step by step whole procedure.
ROM was installed, along with -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1408936
It worked flawllessly for about half an hour an then started rebooting on no particular action - sometimes went up for some time few secs to 10-20 mins an then reboot and sometimes it got stuck in endless loop (only pulling the battery helped).
Since it went wrong, i tried to RESTORE previosly made BACKUP of mentioned OXYGEN ROM, but sadly, same thing happened all the time.
I was devasteted, didnt know what to do so I decided to get back to STOCK ROM via RUU. (thought it would solve the problem)
I used RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.14_Radio_32.49.00 .32U_5.11.05.27_release_224699_signed
Phone stayed S-OFF (obviosly for AlphaRev HBOOT) but have been preety stable comparing what was happening before, in terms: restarted few times for a day and allways rebooted back. Then i inserted other SIM card ant it began again with restarts as soon it went up and been up for 10-20 secs. After few reboots, it stabilised, but had different problem: couldnt add new account, and couldnt remove one I set up at the beginning (message said that i should do FACTORY reset if i want account removed). So I did factory reset - and NOTHING HAPPENED - evrything stayed exactly as it was - with account and everything.
Then i came across BORTAKs Guide ->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1275632 and followed step one, although it doesnt exactly match my probs - in terms that my phone boots up most of the time, but restarts randomly...
So I did what I was supposed to do and installed CyanogenMod after following step 10 Amon Ra's Recovery (I have PVT4 device) but same thing continues to happen - reboots, apparently on trying to add account on phone...
SORRY FOR SUCH LONG POST, but Im out of ideas, and new to this so PLEASE< PLEASE HELP me if u somehow can...
Thanks in advice
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Did you try to run RUU after flashing Alpharev downgrade to achieve S-ON gain, or you just ran it over Alpharev stock?
Also did you try to format sd card or to remove it from phone and than to boot it up?
It all seems like it was SIM unlocked by a "fake" code so that are the issues that can happen.
Plus: to gain SIM unlock you don't need S-off and root.
nlooooo said:
Did you try to run RUU after flashing Alpharev downgrade to achieve S-ON gain, or you just ran it over Alpharev stock?
Also did you try to format sd card or to remove it from phone and than to boot it up?
It all seems like it was SIM unlocked by a "fake" code so that are the issues that can happen.
Plus: to gain SIM unlock you don't need S-off and root.
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I ran it over Alpharev... Im really new to this so i ask for help.
U say that i should:
1) flash AlphaRev downgrade to achieve S-ON gain (HOW exactly? please link to some guide if exists)
2) then run RUU
I tried formatting SD card later, removed it, even change card and latest ROM (Cyanogen) is on other SD card and its all the same...
Thanks for fast reply
goxyendzy said:
I ran it over Alpharev... Im really new to this so i ask for help.
U say that i should:
1) flash AlphaRev downgrade to achieve S-ON gain (HOW exactly? please link to some guide if exists)
2) then run RUU
I tried formatting SD card later, removed it, even change card and latest ROM (Cyanogen) is on other SD card and its all the same...
Thanks for fast reply
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Yes, both steps. With that you will overwrite both hboot and radio to stock ones, that could be the things that made you problems. You will get S-on after flashing of RUU (I recomend 2.3) when your hboot is overwritten.
This is a good guide how to use ADB and fastboot (you will need fastboot for flashing of hboot):
http://androidforums.com/desire-all...fastboot-windows-updated-1st-june-2011-a.html
But reading your post I think that the problem is with unlocking (SIM). If a guy that sold you the phone said he did it with S-off and root he is laying, as I told you it can't be done with that. The problem can occur when you unlock the phone with a "fake code" that actually removes the part of phone's software used to check for carrier and not replacing critical parts (something like that).
There's a tool:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943726
Try to run it and see what you will get.
nlooooo said:
Yes, both steps. With that you will overwrite both hboot and radio to stock ones, that could be the things that made you problems. You will get S-on after flashing of RUU (I recomend 2.3) when your hboot is overwritten.
This is a good guide how to use ADB and fastboot (you will need fastboot for flashing of hboot):
http://androidforums.com/desire-all...fastboot-windows-updated-1st-june-2011-a.html
But reading your post I think that the problem is with unlocking (SIM). If a guy that sold you the phone said he did it with S-off and root he is laying, as I told you it can't be done with that. The problem can occur when you unlock the phone with a "fake code" that actually removes the part of phone's software used to check for carrier and not replacing critical parts (something like that).
There's a tool:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943726
Try to run it and see what you will get.
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Thanks in advance, ill try everything when i setup everything properly. Will update on progress! :good:
OK, at fisrt I have removed both SIM and SD cards and then:
1) flashed AlphaRev downgrade to achieve S-ON
2) then run RUU
Inserted only SIM card, and for now without reboots - but this was only 15 mins ago, so ill keep informing about case after testing, in hope not to get another reboot ever.
What I realised is thatr I dont have recovery?
Is this supposed to be? And how will I resolve problem If something unwanted occur?
Thanks a lot for Your help!
goxyendzy said:
OK, at fisrt I have removed both SIM and SD cards and then:
1) flashed AlphaRev downgrade to achieve S-ON
2) then run RUU
Inserted only SIM card, and for now without reboots - but this was only 15 mins ago, so ill keep informing about case after testing, in hope not to get another reboot ever.
What I realised is thatr I dont have recovery?
Is this supposed to be? And how will I resolve problem If something unwanted occur?
Thanks a lot for Your help!
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You have recovery, but it is stock one (pretty different to custom ones ).
Now after you flashed 2.3 RUU you probably have 1.02 hboot, so go here:
revolutionary.io
Download the tool and follow the process described to achieve s-off and root again (the problem you have have nothing connected with s-off and root but probably with some parts of system software which might be recovered now). During the process you will flash Clockworkmod recovery, from which you will install Superuser.apk. After that reboot the phone and go here:
4ext.net
Download Recovery updater, install it to your phone and flash 4ext recovery. Than from recovery you can restore backup you have from your old rom, but my suggestion is to go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
and find something for you, cause I think that you have to start from scratch to have a proper software (cause you already had problems with previous one).
If you're up to Oxygen again go here:
http://download.oxygen.im/roms/
but I think that there are a few roms on previous link that are based on Oxygen, but a little bit modified with some extra options.
Well, thanks really, but for now I would like to live things as they are...
I dont mind beeng S-ON and not rooted, if phone doesnt reboot again. I just need it functioning, without advanced options.
Are U suggesting that STOCK ROM is not the way I should go?
goxyendzy said:
Well, thanks really, but for now I would like to live things as they are...
I dont mind beeng S-ON and not rooted, if phone doesnt reboot again. I just need it functioning, without advanced options.
Are U suggesting that STOCK ROM is not the way I should go?
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It's the way I went for a long time until I started experimenting, mostly because a lack of space. After that I found the thread I posted (All things desire) and wanted to try some advanced roms (Sense 3.0, 3.5) even made some stuff on my own on that way.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23101063#post23101063
My opinion is that stock roms are the best solution foe our device, cause it runs smoothest and I think that Sense is something that brings HTC devices above all other android devices. I've never been a fan of AOSP software but I tried it, just to see how it feels. I even used MIUI rom for some time as the first software option.
Anyway, the story with memory problem stays, but the main point for getting s-off and root again are diagnostic and flashing options cause on s-off device you can flash all crucial partitions that can cause problems (hboot and radio-see attachment) and change partition table layout to gain space (see alpharev.nl)
I hope I helped!
nlooooo said:
It's the way I went for a long time until I started experimenting, mostly because a lack of space. After that I found the thread I posted (All things desire) and wanted to try some advanced roms (Sense 3.0, 3.5) even made some stuff on my own on that way.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23101063#post23101063
My opinion is that stock roms are the best solution foe our device, cause it runs smoothest and I think that Sense is something that brings HTC devices above all other android devices. I've never been a fan of AOSP software but I tried it, just to see how it feels. I even used MIUI rom for some time as the first software option.
Anyway, the story with memory problem stays, but the main point for getting s-off and root again are diagnostic and flashing options cause on s-off device you can flash all crucial partitions that can cause problems (hboot and radio-see attachment) and change partition table layout to gain space (see alpharev.nl)
I hope I helped!
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Since there are no reboots yet (I really hope its in past) U have been more than helpful! :good:
I still havent inserted sd card, and been consedering of getting a new one (with higher speed).
Also, as I see that U R my countryman (ko ce kome ako ne svoj svome), U have earned a few drinks when U come to my town!
I will be updating how things are regarding of this case.
Cheers :highfive:
goxyendzy said:
Since there are no reboots yet (I really hope its in past) U have been more than helpful! :good:
I still havent inserted sd card, and been consedering of getting a new one (with higher speed).
Also, as I see that U R my countryman (ko ce kome ako ne svoj svome), U have earned a few drinks when U come to my town!
I will be updating how things are regarding of this case.
Cheers :highfive:
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No problem, I'm holding you for your word!
If you have no reboots try to insert different carriers sim cards and see if it's still unlocked.
reboots again
nlooooo said:
No problem, I'm holding you for your word!
If you have no reboots try to insert different carriers sim cards and see if it's still unlocked.
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Reboots again...
After half a day of normal usage, I tried inserting another SIM (but from same carrier) and it started again...
Not so often but from time to time it reboots.
So I guess, at the end it seems it is hardware fault.
One strange thing thou (and it makes me wonder): When I try removing account it says I should do Factory Reset if I want to change that basic acc. But afrer performing Factory Reset NOTHING happens? Account is still there, along with other settings and/or installed apps.
Any ideas?
Invitation still holds
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Hi Everyone
I was hoping someone would be able to help me out as I’m a total Noob!
I have an HTC Desire on the Orange network in the UK. I started to get a few problems with my phone shutting down and restarting, my GF’s brother had been recommending that I root and flash a different rom for a while, and seeing as he has a Desire on the T-Mobile network and had never had any trouble with rooting his phone or any of the roms he used I decided to give it a shot.
I followed everything in Linkslovesandroid’s noob thread found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
I first tried CyanogenMod7 on GF’s brother’s recommendation, worked ok for a bit but I had problems with constant shutting down and restarting over and over again, is this called bootlooping? The only way to stop it was to remove the battery, even then it was no guarantee. Other things were going wrong like the screen freezing, certain buttons were unpressable etc.
I gave my phone to him and he couldn’t explain why such weird things were happening as his Desire experienced no problems at all. He suggested I try something different like GingerVillain. GV never loaded or booted up for me, I wiped data / factory reset, wiped cache, wiped dalvik, installed zip from SD, the rom would then install okay but when I rebooted the phone never ever got past the Alpha Rev S-off screen. This happened when I tried to install GV 2.5 and 2.6, I see that 2.7 has just been released but don’t see the point in trying seeing as the other 2 versions wouldn’t work.
I then tried Oxygen, again, worked ok for a while but started giving me random shut downs and restarts. Once I was driving down the motor way using sat nav software and the phone just shut down! I had to find somewhere to pull over to restart the sat nav software and again it restarted itself! Lol!
One day my phone went into an endless bootloop, no matter how many times I took the battery out the phone just wouldn’t stay on, I had to flash a new rom just to get the phone to fully boot up! I went back to CM7 but have the same old problems, so now I’m using MIUI and I’m still getting shutdowns!
What is wrong with my phone? If anyone has any ideas what I might’ve done wrong, or whats causing problems please offer your suggestions! I don’t really like the sense Roms, I’d like to try GingerVillain but I could never get it to install! I just need my phone to be stable enough to know I can send an SMS to someone without it restarting! If you need to know about Kernels or radios or anything please just ask me (and tell me where I can find out!) Like I said, I’m a noob when it comes to phones!
Same kind of problems here. Random restarts (no shutdowns) on various roms, including the original stock froyo. Happens mostly while installing stuff from the market.
Any ideas?
Sounds like the motherboard is faulty/hardware error. Send back to repair. Usually the kernel can cause problems and OCing (restarting), but you said, that it happens randomly on every ROM, so that means it is more likely a hardware problem.
I had this too, same symptoms sent it back to HTC, duff motherboard, back in 14 days and all working fine.
Only thing is it got reset to original contract so had to pay to unlock it and then root etc.
But well worth it!
Hi Guys
Thanks for your replies so far!
So is it likely that my motherboard was faulty all along? I used to get random restarts sometimes when I was on the sense that came pre-installed on the phone, but nowhere near as often as I get now I've rooted and flashed new roms.
Is it possible that I've damaged it in some way? That could get me in some trouble because when I rooted I'd have voided my warranty, if I send it back to Orange as faulty now they'll know and could pretty much tell me tough luck!
I've heard you can unroot and put your phone back to how it was, but they'd still be able to tell wouldn't they?
Has anyone ever sent a phone back for repair through Orange UK?
Thanks again for your responses so far guys!
For me it turned out that the SD card was corrupt in some way. Repartitioned and reformatted it, and this does help for now. Might try that first, before sending into repair.
Good luck!
reynard80 said:
For me it turned out that the SD card was corrupt in some way. Repartitioned and reformatted it, and this does help for now. Might try that first, before sending into repair.
Good luck!
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I agree. If you have system files on your SD and if the SD gets corrupted you might get the result you've described.
That's interesting, the other night when I had such a severe bootloop that I had to flash a new rom just to get the phone to fully boot up, it only booted after I'd removed the SD card.
To begin with I was very happy because I thought I'd solved the problem and all I'd need was to buy a new SD card, however a short while later it happened again with no SD card inside at all!
I decided to give Ginger Villain another go hoping that removing the SD card after "install zip from SD card > reboot" would allow it to boot up, it didn't. Never got past the alpha rev screen.
How will I know if I have system files on the SD card? Should I maybe try the G-Parted stage of the noob guide again to reformat the card and create the ext-4 partition?
Thanks again for your time and help by the way!
dellaclearing said:
That's interesting, the other night when I had such a severe bootloop that I had to flash a new rom just to get the phone to fully boot up, it only booted after I'd removed the SD card.
To begin with I was very happy because I thought I'd solved the problem and all I'd need was to buy a new SD card, however a short while later it happened again with no SD card inside at all!
I decided to give Ginger Villain another go hoping that removing the SD card after "install zip from SD card > reboot" would allow it to boot up, it didn't. Never got past the alpha rev screen.
How will I know if I have system files on the SD card? Should I maybe try the G-Parted stage of the noob guide again to reformat the card and create the ext-4 partition?
Thanks again for your time and help by the way!
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If your rom requires an sd-ext partition than it stores system files on the SD. Try a rom that doesn't require that. I would go as far as bringing the phone to stock just to verify if it's the phone or the SD. Bringing it back to stock is a requirement for you to return it for servicing if you realize that it's a problem with the phone not the SD.
paul.c said:
If your rom requires an sd-ext partition than it stores system files on the SD. Try a rom that doesn't require that. I would go as far as bringing the phone to stock just to verify if it's the phone or the SD. Bringing it back to stock is a requirement for you to return it for servicing if you realize that it's a problem with the phone not the SD.
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Hi Paul, is it only stock roms that don't store system files on the SD or can you recommend a rom that doesn't require an ext partition as I'm not too sure what I'm looking for? I realise that I'll have to unroot before I can return the handset but if there's another custom rom out there I can test before unrooting that'd be good!
However, if you fully recommend returning the phone to stock to test then that's what I'll do!
dellaclearing said:
Hi Paul, is it only stock roms that don't store system files on the SD or can you recommend a rom that doesn't require an ext partition as I'm not too sure what I'm looking for? I realise that I'll have to unroot before I can return the handset but if there's another custom rom out there I can test before unrooting that'd be good!
However, if you fully recommend returning the phone to stock to test then that's what I'll do!
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This ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896213 doesn't require SD for system files.
I'd first try the complete stock rom with a completely formatted SD card. You can be completely sure that there isn't a software problem with a custom rom.
If this doesn't work, try replacing the SD card. This did help for me.
If still no succes, send it for repairs.
paul.c said:
This ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896213 doesn't require SD for system files.
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Thanks for linking me to that rom.
I did a bit of reading about roms that use ext sd partitions and have so far concluded that its for A2SD so an entire app can be run from the sd card instead of internal memory.
So anyway, I've just installed the Redux rom you linked me to that doesn't store sytem files on the sd, first 2 boots had a sudden shutdown and restart! I'm on the 3rd boot now, it's holding okay but I need to put it through its paces to see how long it can go and what sort of performance it will allow before it starts shutting down on me!
reynard80 said:
I'd first try the complete stock rom with a completely formatted SD card. You can be completely sure that there isn't a software problem with a custom rom.
If this doesn't work, try replacing the SD card. This did help for me.
If still no succes, send it for repairs.
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Hi Reynard. If the Redux rom I've just flashed (less than 10 minutes ago) doesn't use the sd for system files, then if it keeps rebooting on me would that diagnose a faulty motherboard as reliably as using a stock rom?
I'm gonna unroot and flash a stock rom soon anyway, that way I can be sure before I send it back to Orange for repair, although apparently there isn't an official Orange UK stock rom available so I'm just gonna have to get as close as I can and hope they don't notice!
dellaclearing said:
Hi Reynard. If the Redux rom I've just flashed (less than 10 minutes ago) doesn't use the sd for system files, then if it keeps rebooting on me would that diagnose a faulty motherboard as reliably as using a stock rom?
I'm gonna unroot and flash a stock rom soon anyway, that way I can be sure before I send it back to Orange for repair, although apparently there isn't an official Orange UK stock rom available so I'm just gonna have to get as close as I can and hope they don't notice!
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Probably there is a ROM just that it hasn't been leaked so I hope you won't get in trouble.
paul.c said:
Probably there is a ROM just that it hasn't been leaked so I hope you won't get in trouble.
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Haha! Me too!
Dayamn! I didn't have a reboot all day on Redux, got home from work and installed Sygic sat nav software and the phone rebooted 3 times just while downloading the map! I had to remove the battery once as well.
Decided I'd just test Google maps navigation while driving to pick up the Mrs from work and it shut down on me
If I can get hold of another sd card to test I'll see if it makes a difference, but there's not really a lot more I can do now other than unroot and send it back to Orange. The strange thing is that it never used to reboot half as much on the stock rom the phone came with, and it never did it while I was sat nav'ing ever. It just used to happen randomly when I was texting or web browsing. Odd.
Where might be the best place to find the closest to stock rom for Desire Orange UK?
Just wanted to update you all.
I found my original SD card that came with the phone, I fully formatted it and then did a completely fresh install of Redux and performed the same tests and got the same results. Still crashed and rebooted! So that tells me it's the phone and not the card!
I'll be restoring to stock and calling Orange tomorrow to get a replacement / repair.
Thanks to everyone who helped me out along the way, your time and effort is very much appreciated!
Hi guys,
I made a goldcard and tried installing the stock ruu, it seemed to work but when I hold vol down and power on it still says:
AlphaRev
BRAVO PVT1 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT 6.93.1002
I read on the Alpharev website that recent versions of Alpharev aren't overwritten by stock ruu's hboot so it must first be downgraded. I used android flasher to flash the Alpharev downgrader, then it just froze at the "why so serious" screen. I was advised to flash the stock bravo hboot found on the alpharev website, which I did and then I was finally able to install the ruu. Obviously I've done something wrong and I'm guessing its flashing the stock bravo hboot...
Would it be okay to use android flasher again to run just the downgrader image, and then using fastboot flash the ruu again?
Any ideas? I don't want to risk sending my phone back for repair still saying S-Off!
Okay, I kept reading through XDA and found a post by Dzumagos advising someone to do exactly what I just asked, use Android Flasher to run the Alpharev downgrader image and then reflash stock ruu, so I grew a set and tried it myself!
Bravo PVT1 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.93.001
Voila! I'm now back to S-ON, so now I feel I'm ready to call Orange and tell them about the constant shutdowns and restarts, which have still been happening on stock btw, the phone also feels really hot too!
I just hope the replacement they send me is issue free!
Thanks again to everyone who helped out in this thread and in the orange uk ruu thread!
Cheers everyone!
Hi,
I ve been through all this forum and the rest of the internet, but I couldnt find the answer ... so hopefully you will help me.
I have Desire Z - about 3 months old.
I ve rooted the phone and flashed to cyanogenmod 7.1 stable. All the time Ive followed guides here or on cyanogen section/wiki. CM has been running stable for a month maybe until today.
This morning I couldnt make a call - so I rebooted phone.
After reboot phone gets to the home screen and automatically reboots itself after 5 seconds.
info from hboot
VISION PVT ENG S-OFF
HBOOT-0.84.2000 (PC1011000)
MICROP-0425
eMMC-boot
OS ver 1.34.707.3
CID 1111111111
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Ive already tried:
Wipe cache / davik cache
Wipe battery status
Recover to CM - backup created right after first flash - successfully - problem remains
Recover to original ROM - successfully - problem remains
any ideas?
also - if you dont have any advice to fix this problem - Id like to ask you, if you could point me to the best way, how to unroot/(s-on) etc. phone and make it look like its like stocked one for the purpose of waranty. - i dont mind any data nor in phone nor on sdcard, everything I need is synced to gmail acc. Thank you
cyber-mythius said:
Hi,
I ve been through all this forum and the rest of the internet, but I couldnt find the answer ... so hopefully you will help me.
I have Desire Z - about 3 months old.
I ve rooted the phone and flashed to cyanogenmod 7.1 stable. All the time Ive followed guides here or on cyanogen section/wiki. CM has been running stable for a month maybe until today.
This morning I couldnt make a call - so I rebooted phone.
After reboot phone gets to the home screen and automatically reboots itself after 5 seconds.
info from hboot
Ive already tried:
Wipe cache / davik cache
Wipe battery status
Recover to CM - backup created right after first flash - successfully - problem remains
Recover to original ROM - successfully - problem remains
any ideas?
also - if you dont have any advice to fix this problem - Id like to ask you, if you could point me to the best way, how to unroot/(s-on) etc. phone and make it look like its like stocked one for the purpose of waranty. - i dont mind any data nor in phone nor on sdcard, everything I need is synced to gmail acc. Thank you
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Pull /proc/last_kmsg and see what it says; should help you narrow it down.
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could you gimme hand how? - the only point where I can get in the phone is to bootloader / recovery.
so i cant run terminal from apps in phone.
+ could anyone help me how to charge up battery with my problem? I have about 20% on both batteries and I dont want to loose them during repair progress.
to the /proc/last_kmsg - i could not find anything like this on sd
cyber-mythius said:
+ could anyone help me how to charge up battery with my problem? I have about 20% on both batteries and I dont want to loose them during repair progress.
to the /proc/last_kmsg - i could not find anything like this on sd
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Sorry, I just got to work. The last_kmsg is on your device, not the sdcard. If you have ADB set up you should be able to access it by connecting your phone to your computer
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I have everything installed on the other PC where Ill be on monday. Maybe Ill find some time to look through it tommorow.
Thank you now for pointing me somewhere - Ill add more info when I ll have it.
I had a similar problem after flashing new rom. My Desire Z was also rebooting after a few seconds.
I downloaded 1.34.707.3 firmware(used to downgrade Desire Z from gingerbread) from CM wiki, installed it through fastboot (step 8) , rooted my phone once again following the wiki and since then my phone is working without any problems.
Battery can be charged up while the phone is turned off.
well I flashed phone with the downgrading rom as you mentioned and it helped a little
- phone is running and not restarting after few seconds - but randomly after 5-60 seconds (so I am able to do at least something ))...
On monday I ll root that bi*ch again, pull there CM7 or some other ROM and post here actual status.
Thank you so far
Similar problem
Hi, I have the exact same problem with my Desire Z. I've attached the last_msg if someone could help me with that.. also, my sdcard is not partitioned so could that have anything to do with it? Thanks, hopefully I'll get an answer soon
Resurrecting a bit of an old thread here but I have just experienced these exact symptoms.
A friend gave me his old Desire-Z so of course I immediately set about rooting it and trying some ROMs.
As a start I went with the most recent Cyanogenmod which is 7.2 at this time. Everything was going smoothly and was just getting used to the phone and it's physical keyboard. My biggest worry was that the battery life wouldn't be good enough for me so I was running a test to see how long it would last. I am a very light phone user. With background wifi disabled, gps disabled and the phone set to 2G only it ran for 7days and 3 hours! No problems there even with a well used battery. When it eventually died I hit the power button to wake it and it started booting and then shutdown again as you would expect. However after I had fully charged it it booted no problems but then went into the boot loop described above. It boots successfully to the home screen but then after 10-15 seconds it reboots. Frustrating!
I tried some things:
Clear cache from CWM: No change
Factory reset from CWM: No change
Reflash CM7.2 from CWM: No change
Clear Dalvik Cache from CWM: No change
Clear Battery stats from CWM: No change. I was hopeful this might be the problem as the battery had been unusually flat, perhaps some flag had been set that caused the reboot.
I have now recovered by reflashing the exploitable original image, PC10IMG.zip, and then going back through the rooting process. I wouldn't want to have to do it again though.
Possible explainations for the behaviour: I was running a battery monitor app (GSam Battery Monitor) which runs continuously and has various power related functions. Though I would have thought anything that was doing would have been removed by factory reset or reflashing CM.
During the 7 days I was testing ROM manager prompted me to update it and then to update the version of CWM that I had. This is perhaps more likely as would have survived everything else I tried to recover until I reflashed the original recovery.
Hope that helps someone and if anyone has any insight on this I'd lobe to hear it.
Steve
Looks like I spoke too soon. First time I had to reboot the phone I got stuck in the reboot loop again.
Hmm, really confused now. No idea what can be causing this that isn't solved by reflashing CM7.2 but is by going back to the original rom?
Steve
the only thing, that helped me back then was to flash another ROM ... give it a try.
there is several other ROMs based on CM, I'm pretty sure, that you'll find one, that will suit you best.
Thanks for the reply I appreciate you taking the time.
It's very odd I can't think what might be causing this. I ran CM7.2 with zero issues for a week. Then first time I had to reboot it gets stuck in the loop.
Since I was away from home I could not get into recovery. I could get into HBoot (by holing Vol. Down + Power) but because I had a PC10IMG.zip file on my sdcard it would just go straight in to asking if I wanted to update from that with no way to select recovery. And of course I needed to have the sdcard in the phone to get an image from it!
So I have been running from the exploitable 2.2 Rom from the rooting procedure since. That can reboot no problems.
Today I tried a much more recent CM10.1 based rom - stuck in boot loop.
Then a tried the Rooted G2 stock ROM which is obviously much older. It booted correctly one time. Then I rebooted it (actually shutdown and then turned on, it doesn't have a reboot option) and now I'm stuck in the reboot loop.
I'm doing a factory reset and clearing the Dalvik cache after flashing each ROM.
I have also tried booting without the sdcard or SIM card, no change.
Something I have observed is that the phone will reboot once after flashing with every ROM, even the original ROM, but then either runs correctly or continuously reboots.
I can only think that possibly I have wrong phone model. I know that the previous owner bought this contract free so it may be some import. Perhaps it's actually a G2 and I'm using the wrong HBoot? I think that's unlikely as it would show an error during the rooting process.
Steve
I doubt you have the wrong hboot, it wouldn't even start if you did. I would do a complete wipe and format maybe change firmware as well. Backup SD and reformat that as well. If you have true radio soff (rooted via gfree) then you are safe to use one of the pc10img.zips I created here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27796375 (see post 30)
Make sure to remove it from SD this time or at least change the name when done
This will give you new engineering hboot, updated 4ext recovery, .19 radio but all can be changed to whatever if you want.
After the flash reformat all in recovery and flash a new rom
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Thanks for your input.
Updating the radio rom does seem tempting if potentially dangerous! The claimed power saving especially. I haven't ever used 4ext recovery but given how CWM seems to be failing me I might give it a try.
I don't wan to speak too soon here (but doing so anyway!) it looks like I may have corrected the problems by using SuperWipeG2+ from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044992
After running that, which can easily be done from CWM, the phone booted first time with no reboots.
I'll update this if that did not fix it.
Steve
Yep spoke too soon!
However I have found a way to reliably recover but it's not straight forward.
Boot to recovery. Run SuperWipeG2+.
Attempt to boot the phone, boot fails as there is no ROM installed. This step seems important.
Boot to recovery. Install ROM from zip and Gapps from zip.
Reboot and phone will boot successfully and stay booted!
I then have to recover all my contacts and apps from Google which takes a further 20/25 mins.
Having done that I still cannot reboot the phone. If I reboot (or shutdown and power on) it is then stuck ion the boot loop and I have to do that all over again!
This means I cannot ever allow the phone to go flat.
Aaarrgh!
Any suggestions? It has been suggested that installing another ROM could fix this. Any specific ROM? Any idea why that would work?
I have found that the light sensor doesn't seem to be working and the suggested fix for that is to install a Sense based ROM and then switch back. I can't see how that could work either.
Steve
Yeah I've heard the sense ROM thing works, I don't see how but people seem to swear by it. I would suggest you change all your firmware, new hboot, new radio, new recovery and what not a new ROM. There are lots of good ROMs to choose from so I wouldn't know what to recommend for you, personally I almost always use gingerbread based ones
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I apologiz if this has been answered, or beat into hte ground, or what. I cant really find an answer, and not sure what to search for either.
I recently noticed that my hboot is "s-on". I still have root, and su and everything. ?I want to update hboot from .76.2000 to the latest, which is 2.16.00.
I see I can go to this revolutionary website and generate a key which allows me to get s-off, but it looks like thats for rooting a brand new ohone. mine is already rooted, just has S-ON.
can I flash hboot 2.16.00, then flash that revolutionary patch/s-off and be in good shape, or would that mess something up? I'm trying to flash the anthrax kernel, and I need something higher than .76
Interestingly I had a very similar issue yesterday. If you have some qxdm files on the root of your sdcard, and can't mount the sdcard, this may work for you. I had to execute a couple of commands in fastboot mode. I am assuming with these steps that you have a computer, win/lin/mac whatever with adb already configured, etc.
Power off phone
Remove sdcard
Power on holding vol down
Select Fastboot
Connect USB to computer
Open cmd prompt/terminal on computer
Execute
Code:
fastboot oem enableqxdm 0
Execute
Code:
fastboot oem eraseconfig
Power off phone
Insert sdcard
Rejoice!
I really hope this works for you, I wasted a couple of hours digging around google to find this.
Flash the unrevoked forever zip through recovery, not sure if it's compatible with your hboot or radio, but it's worth a shot.
You can always RUU to like 3.70 and run unrevoked. I'd prefer that over updating to the latest and running revolutionary since unrevoked doesn't use a different hboot and is easier to unroot, but you can do either if you don't find a different way.
Happy New Year!
Supersonic Evo 4G | MIUI | Tapatalk
jasongthang said:
I apologiz if this has been answered, or beat into hte ground, or what. I cant really find an answer, and not sure what to search for either.
I recently noticed that my hboot is "s-on". I still have root, and su and everything. ?I want to update hboot from .76.2000 to the latest, which is 2.16.00.
I see I can go to this revolutionary website and generate a key which allows me to get s-off, but it looks like thats for rooting a brand new ohone. mine is already rooted, just has S-ON.
can I flash hboot 2.16.00, then flash that revolutionary patch/s-off and be in good shape, or would that mess something up? I'm trying to flash the anthrax kernel, and I need something higher than .76
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What recovery where you using? And what did you wipe before this happened? You seem to have hit the sake thing as me, but my recovery was gone, as well as my Rom.
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I'm using Amon Ra
I was following this guide [Guide][31 Dec] Rooting and Sense Guide! to try and flash everything decently and how it should be. I flash the newest radios/nv/wimax the way it shows. I got to the kernel, he recommended Anthrax, so I downloaded it and flashed it. The phone wouldnt boot past the splash screen.
So I pull the battery, and pwr+vol down because I want to get into recovery. Well it boots normally into the white hboot screen, and I happen to look at the security, it says S-ON. Huh, thats weird, but everything is working normally (i think) so I just go into recovery, and flash ChopSuey's kernel. THAT doesnt let me boot past the splash screen.
So looking more at Anthrax thread, I notice that you need to have a higher hboot int order to flash the Anthrax kernel successfully, i have .76.2000. Someone has a link for a .93 hboot, so I download and flash it. I flash the Anthrax kernel from recovery, but now the phone wont boot, it just keeps going back to the white hboot screen. I have the phone working now by just re-flashing the rom (evo classic), but I want to get the S-ON situation fixed, I want to have the proper hboot that I need, and I would LIKE to get the Anthrax kernel working, although I could go to another one if its just not going to work.
Is there a good write-up on just what exactly the hboot is and what it does? I never read up on it because it never seemed to be something I needed.
Thanks for your replies.
plainjane said:
Flash the unrevoked forever zip through recovery, not sure if it's compatible with your hboot or radio, but it's worth a shot.
You can always RUU to like 3.70 and run unrevoked. I'd prefer that over updating to the latest and running revolutionary since unrevoked doesn't use a different hboot and is easier to unroot, but you can do either if you don't find a different way.
Happy New Year!
Supersonic Evo 4G | MIUI | Tapatalk
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Are you pretty much saying to just completely flash back to stock un-rooted, and start all over again? That would be fine with me, would that straighten out any hboot problems as well, as far as putting the hboot back to the way it should be, or was?
It's not a bad idea. RUU back to stock, accept the updates, then root using whatever the most current version is.
Ok, messed around and updated with a back-to-stock pc36img, the hboot version was still .93... So now I've successfully rooted with unrevoked. s-off, super user, everything is fine, but i'm still at the .93 hboot.
What exactly is hboot, and can I update it to 2.16.0001? How do i know which hboot i should be on?
Also, I apologize again but its been a while. My phone is running clockwork recovery. Can I just flash the amon ra recovery zip through clockwork?
jasongthang said:
Ok, messed around and updated with a back-to-stock pc36img, the hboot version was still .93... So now I've successfully rooted with unrevoked. s-off, super user, everything is fine, but i'm still at the .93 hboot.
What exactly is hboot, and can I update it to 2.16.0001? How do i know which hboot i should be on?
Also, I apologize again but its been a while. My phone is running clockwork recovery. Can I just flash the amon ra recovery zip through clockwork?
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No reason the upgrade your HBoot. Latest doesn't necessarily mean best. I wouldn't go any higher than 0.97, personally, since that's the last version that's downgradable.
You'll be fine with what you have.
Captain_Throwback said:
No reason the upgrade your HBoot. Latest doesn't necessarily mean best. I wouldn't go any higher than 0.97, personally, since that's the last version that's downgradable.
You'll be fine with what you have.
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Captain, any idea why some of us seem to be having trouble restoring back, while others aren't?
I'm almost at my wits end here. The hours I've put into this makes me feel like I'm close, but the honest truth is that I've yet to so much as get my device to stop showing up as a Qualcomm Diag Mgr, when I first turn the phone on, & haven't even gotten root or S-Off yet.
I've got a HW0004 evo, which I'd previously rooted with unrevoked & 2 - 3 months ago had rooted with unrevoked forever. I was running Decks, with a 32 gb sd card, which I was constantly having to run parted on b/c my sd-ext was losing it's filesystem, and my last attempt to fix this without going back to a 16 gb card was to switch from amonRA to TWRP 2.0, then repartition with a ext4 partition this time. It had been running smoothly for a week, if not longer, so I decided that I could go ahead & flash firerat's mod again, this time with a more accurate (and smaller) system partition. When I rebooted I started having this issue.
I'm somehow back to S-ON, 2.10.0001, 2.15.00.11.19 radio, with no access to adb. When I tried to flash the RUU that you posted over on MikMIk, to go back to stock 3.70, i had a ton of problems getting it to actually complete (everything from stopping in the middle of it, to going to a black screen, as if it had stopped, then coming back on & looking like it was going to finish, to stopping when I got to the reboot screen, but I'm pretty sure that it did finally flash. The only problem is that it still won't recognize my phone when I run unrevoked3, and it won't stay on long enough to let me figure out why.
ncadden said:
Captain, any idea why some of us seem to be having trouble restoring back, while others aren't?
I'm almost at my wits end here. The hours I've put into this makes me feel like I'm close, but the honest truth is that I've yet to so much as get my device to stop showing up as a Qualcomm Diag Mgr, when I first turn the phone on, & haven't even gotten root or S-Off yet.
I've got a HW0004 evo, which I'd previously rooted with unrevoked & 2 - 3 months ago had rooted with unrevoked forever. I was running Decks, with a 32 gb sd card, which I was constantly having to run parted on b/c my sd-ext was losing it's filesystem, and my last attempt to fix this without going back to a 16 gb card was to switch from amonRA to TWRP 2.0, then repartition with a ext4 partition this time. It had been running smoothly for a week, if not longer, so I decided that I could go ahead & flash firerat's mod again, this time with a more accurate (and smaller) system partition. When I rebooted I started having this issue.
I'm somehow back to S-ON, 2.10.0001, 2.15.00.11.19 radio, with no access to adb. When I tried to flash the RUU that you posted over on MikMIk, to go back to stock 3.70, i had a ton of problems getting it to actually complete (everything from stopping in the middle of it, to going to a black screen, as if it had stopped, then coming back on & looking like it was going to finish, to stopping when I got to the reboot screen, but I'm pretty sure that it did finally flash. The only problem is that it still won't recognize my phone when I run unrevoked3, and it won't stay on long enough to let me figure out why.
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Well I know quite a few people that used TWRP had similar issues (sd card issues aside). But it could be firerat's that was the last straw. Let's say that you have bad blocks on your system partition, but then you use the mod to reduce the size if the partition to a size that *should* be big enough to accomodate everything, but due to your bad blocks, actually isn't. That would likely lead to corruption of your system partition, and everything would go downhill from there. Personally, I've tried to reproduce most of these issues on my device with TWRP and haven't had any success. My phone always works fine. I think it just comes down to everyone's devices being different, and the bad blocks causing device corruption one way or another with the ones that fail.
jasongthang said:
I apologiz if this has been answered, or beat into hte ground, or what. I cant really find an answer, and not sure what to search for either.
I recently noticed that my hboot is "s-on". I still have root, and su and everything. ?I want to update hboot from .76.2000 to the latest, which is 2.16.00.
I see I can go to this revolutionary website and generate a key which allows me to get s-off, but it looks like thats for rooting a brand new ohone. mine is already rooted, just has S-ON.
can I flash hboot 2.16.00, then flash that revolutionary patch/s-off and be in good shape, or would that mess something up? I'm trying to flash the anthrax kernel, and I need something higher than .76
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I know how to fix this had the same problem a few months back
1 : Download the stock RUU executable for your PC
2 : Make sure you have the htc sync drivers installed on your PC
3 : Enable USB debugging in your phone's settings menu
4 : Hook your phone up to PC and run the RUU (This will return it 100% to stock)
5 : You will know need to root again. (this is the only way I got through this problem)
6 : After you root s will be off (delete or rename any PC36IMG.zip after you have used them from your SD card)
Here is the RUU that got me out of the same problem they won't let me post links yet just google this....
RUU_SuperSonic_GB_Sprint_WWE_4.53.651.1_Radio_2.15.00.0808_NV_2.15_release_209995_signed
My phone is back to....somewhat normal now, i think lol.
I may just be having issues with the particular rom I'm on. But everything seems fine.
I have reverted back to hboot eng .76.2 because I wasnt able to fastboot with .93, and I wanted to flash a custom boot image. When I flashed the .76 hboot, I wasnt able to boot my phone, i could only bounce between recovery and hboot. What seemed to fix this is reflashing the rom. I only wiped dalvik and cache, nothing else. This allowed me to boot right up normally, and I have fastboot commands. But I'm back to square one in that I don't have that anthrax kernel running anymore. I'm thinking of jumping back on the MIUI train though.
Hi guys,
I just got into flashing my phone a few weeks ago when my stock desire started giving me endless low memory notifications, so I was attracted by A2SD. Anyways I've read and read, then read some more and I've been able to answer all my own problems up to now.
I rooted, S-offed etc. I installed Pyramid with sense 3.0 as my first ROM but it felt laggy and frustrating to use. So after reading I decided to try CM7. It's super fast and stable but I was finding I just could not figure out how to install apps. It has no market app so I'd go to the market website and install then I just couldn't find the app anywere. Plus it would tell me I had apps installed I didn't, but did on the first rom. I just wiped everything when I installed CM7. I guess I was used to the user friendly sense but I was finding CM7 not as simple.
So as fast and stable as it is I wanted to play with some other ROMs so tonight I got MIUI. It installed nice but as soon as it loaded after about 5 seconds it would reboot. and again and again. I read about boot loops in the thread but couldn't find a definitive answer. I read the boot loop help thread and then tried formatting boot, system, cache, sd=ext and whatever else the instructions said. Wiped again, installed MIUI and same thing.
It's getting late and I need my phone for tomorrow so I thought I'd try Insertcoin. The problem doesn't seem to be just MIUI though because that ROM did the same bootloop. About 5 seconds after everything seems to load properly. Now I'm a little worried.
Tried the last known good ROM, CM7, and viola! Everything is good and stable again. I'm wondering about partition table I didn't flash a new HBOOT. Mostly because I'm not sure how to? I'm unsure about this step (from the alpharev site)
3) Flash HBOOT with your phone in fastboot mode (Back+POWER) -> 'fastboot flash hboot bravo_alphaspl.img' (change into the correct filename for the HBOOT you downloaded).
The part after the arrow is were I'm not sure.
The thing is MIUI says it will go on a stock HBOOT so I figured my bases were covered?
Sorry about the long thread and honestly I've read and I'm ready to ask the community for advice. I've solved several problems on my own and here I am! Hopefully got this in the right fora. Also hope I got all the relevant info in. Any advice or idea on why those two ROMs boot looped would be awesome I still want to try MIUI.
Cheers
Can you give more info, like how you partitioned your sd card. What info does the bootloader in the top left of the screen give you. Wright it all down here. Maybe then its easyer to help.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Your phone setup NEEDS TO MATCH developer requirements for that rom... so read instruction and set your phone up
I can't help you with your boot problems,
but I can however help you understanding the
third point in the alpharev description, as I was
facing the same understanding problem 2 days ago.
The command 'fastboot flash hboot bravo_alphaspl.img' is used
via your cmd / konsole/ terminal on your pc.
So what you must do is,
- install android sdk
- connect your desire via usb, go into fastboot-mode
- navigate via cmd / konsole / terminal to the 'platform-tools' folder (there is
the fastboot script you need to trigger) within your android sdk folder
(- you can test if your device is found with the command "fastboot devices")
and..yeah. Enter the commands from the alpharev page in your terminal.
/*Just remembered, you need to install the desire usb drivers, when you
are using windows, or something like that. I'm not using windows, but I'm
sure it's easy to google if you need help on either the usb drivers OR
on how to install the android sdk under windows.*/
MarcelHofs said:
Can you give more info, like how you partitioned your sd card. What info does the bootloader in the top left of the screen give you. Wright it all down here. Maybe then its easyer to help.
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I used Gparted to partition the stock 8GB micro SD card that came with my Desire. I have a fat 32 partition followed by a 1000mb EXT4 partition. Bootloader info is:
-----AlphaRev-----
BRAVO PVT4 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT- 0.93.0001
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.11.05.027
Aug 10 2010, 17:52:18
Hope this helps if you have any idea what the problem is. The only thing I haven't played with is the radio.
Malso thanks very much for the info I was really unsure how to proceed there! I'll flash the CM7 HBOOT. Cheers.
kotag82 Thats the problem I can't figure out why Pyramid and CM7 work and MIUI or Insertcoin don't I can't figure out where the difference is between CM7 and MIUI that would prevent one from working. I thought my phone was matched exactly for MIUI. an't figure out what changed that one would work and the other just reboots 5 seconds after loading. The flashing of both MIUI and Insertcoin seemed to go perfectly.
Wondering if a full SD format would help? I've read and re-read the MIUI thread it it really looks like I should be good to go?
Yeah never did get my MIUI working. Allways with the rebooting problem. Did get RunnyMede AIO going and I'm loving that. Except for the battery drain issue. It will be fine untill about 50% and then I'll use about a percent every few minutes even with the phone off and in my pocket!
Hey folks,
Thanks for taking the time to read/assist. I don't typically do these kinds of posts and am at my wit's end!
Phone's Previous Setup - MIUI Gingerbread, Rooted (but with S-ON after the fact).
What happened:
My HTC Incredible finally got to the point of being practically unuseable with laggy behavior and random restarts and the like, so I decided to complete a reset to factory settings or wipe.
I completed my backups using Titanium (apps) and ClockworkMod Recovery (full backup). After this, I went ahead and opened up Settings and directed the phone to complete a Reset to Factory Settings. It ran through the process, rebooted, and came up jelly. While no custom apps were installed (expected), my folder settings on my main home page were saved, along with some previous text messages. I was pleasantly surprised.
From here, I wished to wipe the SD Card so as to make sure it was clean of any residual folders/files that might cause conflict down the road (based on advice from others). So, headed to the SD card part of the settings. Had to unmount the SD card to format, proceeded to do so.
Here's where things went wonky: Despite receiving a confirmation that the SD card format had proceeded, nothing else ever happened. I attempted to mount the card again w/o luck (kept getting a msg that it was now unmounted). Eventually, I decided to go ahead and restart the phone and see if that helps. Big mistake.
From this point forward, the phone refuses to fully start up into any Android ROM. Initially, it hung on the white HTC Incredible splash screen (yes, even w/ giving it an hour+ of time). I tried wiping and reflashing different ROMS over the period of the day yesterday to no avail.
Doing a full recovery via ClockworkMod (from my backup that I made before and copied back onto the SD card via USB) leaves me stuck on the HTC Incredible white splash screen.
MIUI - 2.2.10
Hangs on white splash screen
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed
MIUI - 2.2.17
Loads past white and MIUI splash screens
Instead of loading into Android homescreen, immediately loads up "Encryption" error and directs to "reset phone."
Repeated restart and attempts of resetting phone don't work
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
MIUI - 1.12.9
Hangs on white splash screen.
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
CM - 7.1.0
Hangs/loops on CM splash screen.
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
CM - 6.1.0
Hangs/loops on CM splash screen.
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
I looked into HBOOT options, getting PB31IMG.ZIP and PG86IMG.ZIP.img thinking maybe I could try reverting to stock at a friend's suggestion. HBOOT sees the files and "checks" them, even briefly showing a small vertical blue loading bar at the top-right corner, but never attempts to run/update them as I am lead to expect from all the instructions/encounters I've found on the net suggest. The screen info flashes by so quickly, I can barely read it, but I confirmed that it said "checking" and not updating or such. x.x
I considered trying to flash an updated copy of ClockworkMod Recovery, but I cannot do that w/o being able to load up the phone into Android.
I cannot run anything desktop-side, like ADB, as they all require the phone started up and put into USB-debugging mode.
I've looked into and tried all this and more, but nothing seems to be working.
My next idea is to try to forcibly downgrade the phone. Reasoning being that I read that the HBOOT will not try to update if it senses that the ROM is newer than its default settings(?). So, I need a good choice of "old" ROM that I can attempt to install via the HBOOT or CWM Recovery, and verify I have the correct files for HBOOT to try updating/running.
Again, this is a speculative attempt, but I'm willing to try whatever might work! Otherwise, I've got a fancy brick and my well-being on the line w/ no $$ to replace the phone. x.x
Thanks again for reading and hopefully offering some wonderful assistance! Sorry it's so long!
Feel free to ask Qs if you need clarification on stuff.
wigmuke said:
Hey folks,
Thanks for taking the time to read/assist. I don't typically do these kinds of posts and am at my wit's end!
Phone's Previous Setup - MIUI Gingerbread, Rooted (but with S-ON after the fact).
What happened:
My HTC Incredible finally got to the point of being practically unuseable with laggy behavior and random restarts and the like, so I decided to complete a reset to factory settings or wipe.
I completed my backups using Titanium (apps) and ClockworkMod Recovery (full backup). After this, I went ahead and opened up Settings and directed the phone to complete a Reset to Factory Settings. It ran through the process, rebooted, and came up jelly. While no custom apps were installed (expected), my folder settings on my main home page were saved, along with some previous text messages. I was pleasantly surprised.
From here, I wished to wipe the SD Card so as to make sure it was clean of any residual folders/files that might cause conflict down the road (based on advice from others). So, headed to the SD card part of the settings. Had to unmount the SD card to format, proceeded to do so.
Here's where things went wonky: Despite receiving a confirmation that the SD card format had proceeded, nothing else ever happened. I attempted to mount the card again w/o luck (kept getting a msg that it was now unmounted). Eventually, I decided to go ahead and restart the phone and see if that helps. Big mistake.
From this point forward, the phone refuses to fully start up into any Android ROM. Initially, it hung on the white HTC Incredible splash screen (yes, even w/ giving it an hour+ of time). I tried wiping and reflashing different ROMS over the period of the day yesterday to no avail.
Doing a full recovery via ClockworkMod (from my backup that I made before and copied back onto the SD card via USB) leaves me stuck on the HTC Incredible white splash screen.
MIUI - 2.2.10
Hangs on white splash screen
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed
MIUI - 2.2.17
Loads past white and MIUI splash screens
Instead of loading into Android homescreen, immediately loads up "Encryption" error and directs to "reset phone."
Repeated restart and attempts of resetting phone don't work
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
MIUI - 1.12.9
Hangs on white splash screen.
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
CM - 7.1.0
Hangs/loops on CM splash screen.
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
CM - 6.1.0
Hangs/loops on CM splash screen.
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
I looked into HBOOT options, getting PB31IMG.ZIP and PG86IMG.ZIP.img thinking maybe I could try reverting to stock at a friend's suggestion. HBOOT sees the files and "checks" them, even briefly showing a small vertical blue loading bar at the top-right corner, but never attempts to run/update them as I am lead to expect from all the instructions/encounters I've found on the net suggest. The screen info flashes by so quickly, I can barely read it, but I confirmed that it said "checking" and not updating or such. x.x
I considered trying to flash an updated copy of ClockworkMod Recovery, but I cannot do that w/o being able to load up the phone into Android.
I cannot run anything desktop-side, like ADB, as they all require the phone started up and put into USB-debugging mode.
I've looked into and tried all this and more, but nothing seems to be working.
My next idea is to try to forcibly downgrade the phone. Reasoning being that I read that the HBOOT will not try to update if it senses that the ROM is newer than its default settings(?). So, I need a good choice of "old" ROM that I can attempt to install via the HBOOT or CWM Recovery, and verify I have the correct files for HBOOT to try updating/running.
Again, this is a speculative attempt, but I'm willing to try whatever might work! Otherwise, I've got a fancy brick and my well-being on the line w/ no $$ to replace it. x.x
Thanks again for reading and hopefully offering some wonderful assistance! Sorry it's so long!
Feel free to ask Qs if you need clarification on stuff.
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You need to gain s-off again before flashing with clockwork. How come you turned it back on?
"In a nutshell, S-OFF means that the NAND portion of the device is unlocked and can be written to. The default setting for HTC’s devices is S-ON, which means that neither can you access certain areas of the system nor can you guarantee a permanent root. Furthermore, signature check for firmware images is also ensured by the S-ON flag."
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gain s=off boot into CMW wipe data, and factory reset. Flash a new rom of your choice and then boot. should get you back to a working phone.
synisterwolf said:
You need to gain s-off again before flashing with clockwork. How come you turned it back on?
"In a nutshell, S-OFF means that the NAND portion of the device is unlocked and can be written to. The default setting for HTC’s devices is S-ON, which means that neither can you access certain areas of the system nor can you guarantee a permanent root. Furthermore, signature check for firmware images is also ensured by the S-ON flag."
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gain s=off boot into CMW wipe data, and factory reset. Flash a new rom of your choice and then boot. should get you back to a working phone.
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The first time my phone was rooted/flashed, my bf did it for me. He used Unrevoked to root it and install CWM Recovery (v2.5.1.2 presently). I recall conversation being that having S-On would be better security with regards to the cell carrier (e.g., good to leave on, bad if off as they can see you rooted). So I agreed to having it put back to S-On, which I understood he then took care of.
Fast-forward a year and he now tells me he didn't actually end up running the other Unrevoked (Forever) tool to put S-On back in place, but that it simply *was*, so he left it that way. o.o;
Keep in mind, I've flashed 3 different ROMs since he originally rooted and flashed, w/o issues.
I pulled up everything to try re-rooting it again (to gain S-Off), but the instructions required having the phone loaded up and in debugging mode, which I cannot do as I cannot start up the phone past recovery in the first place.
Did I miss something that allows it via recovery? Going to check again in the meantime.
wigmuke said:
The first time my phone was rooted/flashed, my bf did it for me. He used Unrevoked to root it and install CWM Recovery (v2.5.1.2 presently). I recall conversation being that having S-On would be better security with regards to the cell carrier (e.g., good to leave on, bad if off as they can see you rooted). So I agreed to having it put back to S-On, which I understood he then took care of.
Fast-forward a year and he now tells me he didn't actually end up running the other Unrevoked (Forever) tool to put S-On back in place, but that it simply *was*, so he left it that way. o.o;
Keep in mind, I've flashed 3 different ROMs since he originally rooted and flashed, w/o issues.
I pulled up everything to try re-rooting it again (to gain S-Off), but the instructions required having the phone loaded up and in debugging mode, which I cannot do as I cannot start up the phone past recovery in the first place.
Did I miss something that allows it via recovery? Going to check again in the meantime.
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actually its better to keep it s=off so this type of situation wont happen. Your carrier cant see your hboot from my understanding on how this phone works. They dont care if you have root or not, unless you are trying to exchange the phone for another one from them or for insurance reasons. With root you only void your warranty on the phone and not your contract or anything to do with VZW. S=off is just a NAND lock, meaning you cant add your own custom recover to the phone, and you are limited to builds that come from VZW themselves (ie the security signature check).
If you ever want to take the phone back to them because its defective or call insurance then you need to remove root and S=on. but thats the only time you need to toggle the NAND lock.
ok so you will need to ruu to stock, downgrade then gain s=off over again:
for the ruu for GB:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1227279
a guide to do this all after you ruu:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
OMG I may've gotten it!
So I decided to give things another go with attempting to revert to stock again, as at this point, nothing is going to work other than via HBOOT.
I completed another reformat of the SD Card (Fat32) to be on the overcautious side and copied over ONLY the PB32IMG.zip file and restarted into HBOOT.
(Ah.. new user, so not allowed to post the link of where I got it.)
This time, much like before, it scanned, found the file, and did a parsing/loading. However, THIS TIME it actually prompted me to update! I chose yes (Vol+) and let it do its thing.
At this time, I am happy to announce that it actually is back up stock!
Wooohoo! Now to get it back to how I like it again. XD
If nothing else, hope this information helps someone else later on.
wigmuke said:
OMG I may've gotten it!
So I decided to give things another go with attempting to revert to stock again, as at this point, nothing is going to work other than via HBOOT.
I completed another reformat of the SD Card (Fat32) to be on the overcautious side and copied over ONLY the PB32IMG.zip file and restarted into HBOOT.
(Ah.. new user, so not allowed to post the link of where I got it.)
This time, much like before, it scanned, found the file, and did a parsing/loading. However, THIS TIME it actually prompted me to update! I chose yes (Vol+) and let it do its thing.
At this time, I am happy to announce that it actually is back up stock!
Wooohoo! Now to get it back to how I like it again. XD
If nothing else, hope this information helps someone else later on.
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You might have lost root if you did the ruu from hboot. to check download the app "super user" from market that will tell you if you still have root or not.
Alright, now that I'm back to stock and runnin' smoothly, I need to figure out what route to take for rooting and flashing. Everyone talks about Unrevoked3, but I've heard there're other newer tools, too.
What would you recommend?
....also, sorry for the weird delay/disjointed/incomplete responses. I keep forgetting that XDA severely limits my posting capabilities. I wanted to say super thanks wolf, for all your help and sticking with me! Your input is appreciated. And yes, I'm pretty sure I lost all root, etc. It is back to "out-of-the-box" stock as far as I can tell.
wigmuke said:
Alright, now that I'm back to stock and runnin' smoothly, I need to figure out what route to take for rooting and flashing. Everyone talks about Unrevoked3, but I've heard there're other newer tools, too.
What would you all recommend?
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unrevoked3 is the easiest way. but you will need to downgrade to android 2.2 for the security exploit.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
Edit: fixed link
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wigmuke said:
....also, sorry for the weird delay/disjointed/incomplete responses. I keep forgetting that XDA severely limits my posting capabilities. I wanted to say super thanks wolf, for all your help and sticking with me! Your input is appreciated. And yes, I'm pretty sure I lost all root, etc. It is back to "out-of-the-box" stock as far as I can tell.
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lol now worries. easiest way to get to the 10 limit is just pad the count in here. ie just say something 10 times and you are good to go.
synisterwolf said:
unrevoked3 is the easiest way. but you will need to downgrade to android 2.2 for the security exploit.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
Edit: fixed link
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Good news, I'm on 2.2 stock right now (just checked to confirm). So should be able to just go ahead and run Unrevoked3 then.
Also, the most popular recovery I'm aware of is ClockworkMod Recovery. I found that it's up to version 5.0.2.0. Would you recommend anything else or know of a newer version?
Figure if I'm going to do this, might as well do it right.
wigmuke said:
Good news, I'm on 2.2 stock right now (just checked to confirm). So should be able to just go ahead and run Unrevoked3 then.
Also, the most popular recovery I'm aware of is ClockworkMod Recovery. I found that it's up to version 5.0.2.0. Would you recommend anything else or know of a newer version?
Figure if I'm going to do this, might as well do it right.
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Nope I'm RunNing that one and it works well.
Sent from my sexy assistant. (AMOLED HTC Incredible)