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[Q] Formatted boot/system/etc., Desire will no longer boot or charge. Bricked?

EDIT: PROBLEM SOLVED.
My story of woe:
I rooted my Desire using UnrEVOked and installed LeeDrOiD 2.3b (noA2SD), and everything was great, but things started going wrong when I tried to change to A2SD. I partitioned the SDcard in Rom Manager, but for a while the SD wasn't being recognised (little SD icon with a question mark in notification area), and even though that eventually fixed itself I was thereafter unable to make a Nandroid backup - in ClockworkMod it would just "Error while dumping boot image".
I decided to start from scratch and I very inadvisedly went into mounts and storage and formatted everything. I have a hunch this may be my problem.
I downloaded the RUU and was setting up to try using fastboot when the battery ran down, and now it will not turn on or charge. I've searched and searched, but come up with no solution other than sending it away for repair or more likely replacement.
Complication: it was bought second-hand from a non-reputable shop to start with, warranty is so far out the window it's not funny, and I need to keep the fact that I've bricked the Xmas present she got me from my partner.
Does anyone know of anything that can be done to restore a Desire when it won't even turn on? Or is this the end of my phone and my love life?
I'm really sorry for cluttering up the board with my idiocy, but I've been searching for hours and I really am at my wits' end! Please help if you can.
EDIT: Welp, a day later, on it turns and I am back on stock ROM! No idea what happened there, but thanks for the reassurance anyway, it really helped me stop worrying.
I'll try not to mess around with something until I fully understand it next time!

From what I have read the only way to really brick your phone is by altering the radio version or your HBOOT. I am no genius and I can't help fix your problem but i suspect hope isn't lost for you.
good luck mate

Can you get another battery for your phone? Maybe it will turn on.
Can you also post which Clockwork mod you were using?

redzyklon said:
My story of woe:
I rooted my Desire using UnrEVOked and installed LeeDrOiD 2.3b (noA2SD), and everything was great, but things started going wrong when I tried to change to A2SD. I partitioned the SDcard in Rom Manager, but for a while the SD wasn't being recognised (little SD icon with a question mark in notification area), and even though that eventually fixed itself I was thereafter unable to make a Nandroid backup - in ClockworkMod it would just "Error while dumping boot image".
I decided to start from scratch and I very inadvisedly went into mounts and storage and formatted everything. I have a hunch this may be my problem.
I downloaded the RUU and was setting up to try using fastboot when the battery ran down, and now it will not turn on or charge. I've searched and searched, but come up with no solution other than sending it away for repair or more likely replacement.
Complication: it was bought second-hand from a non-reputable shop to start with, warranty is so far out the window it's not funny, and I need to keep the fact that I've bricked the Xmas present she got me from my partner.
Does anyone know of anything that can be done to restore a Desire when it won't even turn on? Or is this the end of my phone and my love life?
I'm really sorry for cluttering up the board with my idiocy, but I've been searching for hours and I really am at my wits' end! Please help if you can.
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The formatting wouldn't be the problem - it is standard practice to format (or wipe) cache/dalvik-cache/ etc. prior to flashing a new ROM. Problem might be the incomplete flash when the battery died. Have you tried putting it on the charger with the battery removed? Any charge light come on??

redzyklon said:
EDIT: PROBLEM SOLVED.
My story of woe:
I rooted my Desire using UnrEVOked and installed LeeDrOiD 2.3b (noA2SD), and everything was great, but things started going wrong when I tried to change to A2SD. I partitioned the SDcard in Rom Manager, but for a while the SD wasn't being recognised (little SD icon with a question mark in notification area), and even though that eventually fixed itself I was thereafter unable to make a Nandroid backup - in ClockworkMod it would just "Error while dumping boot image".
I decided to start from scratch and I very inadvisedly went into mounts and storage and formatted everything. I have a hunch this may be my problem.
I downloaded the RUU and was setting up to try using fastboot when the battery ran down, and now it will not turn on or charge. I've searched and searched, but come up with no solution other than sending it away for repair or more likely replacement.
Complication: it was bought second-hand from a non-reputable shop to start with, warranty is so far out the window it's not funny, and I need to keep the fact that I've bricked the Xmas present she got me from my partner.
Does anyone know of anything that can be done to restore a Desire when it won't even turn on? Or is this the end of my phone and my love life?
I'm really sorry for cluttering up the board with my idiocy, but I've been searching for hours and I really am at my wits' end! Please help if you can.
EDIT: Welp, a day later, on it turns and I am back on stock ROM! No idea what happened there, but thanks for the reassurance anyway, it really helped me stop worrying.
I'll try not to mess around with something until I fully understand it next time!
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Hej, i hope you are fine and good in health. Same thing happened with my phone and till now it won't start i opened it disassemble then assemble everything but it won't power on even not charge ............ i am still stuck up with it even no idea what more to do
Can you please tell me how it power on ?? or what you have done with it ??
Waiting for your response.
Thanks in advance.

Need Help!!

Hey
I apologize if a thread like this has appeared before, but i have just about had it with playing about with my desire after i tryed to flash a new ROM, il try and explain is as best detail as i can, and hopefully, one of you will be able to help me get back to normal, as im tearing my hair out over this now...
So...Last night, i noticed that LeeDroid (The custom rom i use) had updated his firmware to 3.0, and in the interest of keeping my phone upto date, i went ahead, downloaded the rom, put it on my SD, did a nandroid backup, wiped and flashed as i would normally
the install seemed to go fine, but when i rebooted the phone, it hung on the HTC screen for about 15-20 mins, so i figured the flash hadnt worked, so i went back, wiped again and restored my backup
this is where the issues begin, the bacup restores fine, BUT, when the phone reboots and loads up, ALL of my apps etc have gone, no longer apparently anywhere on my SD card (which is where most of them were stored) I now had a bare bones android, with no apps (not even market, as that was updated manually too)
at this point, i start to panic, i have seemingly lost everything off the phone (apart from the SD backup i had performed before), and only have a bare bones version of the LeeDroid rom i was using before, with no apps what so ever
so, i thought, i might as well start afresh, so i boot back into recovery, wipe again and re-flash a fresh Leedroid rom, which seemingly again, goes fine, but again, hung on boot
getting more worried still, my SD-EXT then stops mounting, giving me an error, so i re-partition it, format it, and try again, and again, it still hangs on boot
at this point, i realize im screwed, and just restore the bare bones backup i had saved on my computer (nandroid), which at least allows the phone to boot and be semi-usable
i have no idea what im doing wrong here, nothing wants to flash anymore, it just hangs, and i cant even seem to un-root the phone, all the RUU's i use just give me a "CUSTOMER ID ERROR" which i have no idea how to fix
can anyone PLEASE point me in the right direction, im panicing here, i cant seem to get anything to work, and i have been going around in circles for almost 7 hours now...
thanks very much

Looks like you'll need to start from sguare 1 again. Seems like the SD issue, might have corrupted the SD card.
My suggestion, is that you format the sd card (backup all files to the pc)
Create a new gold card again.
Flash to stock again if need be, then root.
You can download googleapps and flash it also. There are some downloadable links in this site you can save to your sd card. Or you can download it at cyanogenmod.com (where I downloaded mine I believe).

i thought going back to square one would be the way forward too, except that i cant seem to find an RUU that will work, as i mentioned, all of the ones i have tryed give me the CUSTOMER ID error, which i have no idea what to do with...
so, im a little stumped..

Your Gold Card is good? Better re-do it again. Because if your partitions blew away on your SD card, it probably cooked all of it.
You shouldn't have any problems finding a stock froyo ROM.

Moscow Desire said:
Your Gold Card is good? Better re-do it again. Because if your partitions blew away on your SD card, it probably cooked all of it.
You shouldn't have any problems finding a stock froyo ROM.
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i have a stock froyo RUU, should i apply the goldcard, then try the update again then?
im new to this, so im probably going to need taking through all this
edit: so i made my SD into a goldcard. and now it wont mount on the phone, and when i run the RUU, it still gives me the CID error..
im going insane here, someone help >.<

ok, i got it
after doing some reasearch, i found that alot of people were saying that the phone needed to be S-OFF to flash it correctly
so, after reading up, and S-OFFing, i wiped, partitioned and flashed...
and, finally, after 9 hours of tinkering, errors etc, it has flashed and booted
this can be locked now, thanks

partitioned th sd card,
works sometimes, but glad we could somewhat lead you in the right direction, by proxy........
Little puzzeled by the s-off, but hey, it's fixed!!!

[Q] Didn't make a Goldcard on Telstra HTC Desire

I rooted my Telstra HTC Desire 2.2 with Unrevoked last night, and after a little bit of perseverance I finally got it to work, and I flashed the InsertCoin rom onto it.
Now I'm reading the forums, and apparently I need this thing called a Goldcard, and I've been reading around and still haven't figured out what they do, can I please have some help here?
Apparently it's only required for an unroot, but I may want to unroot in the future if I need to send it back due to warranty, and I have no idea how to get one because I already flashed a new rom. I still have the Nandroid backup from my stock rom, but I obviously made the backup after I rooted it with Unrevoked.
So here's my question, can I still create a Goldcard with my Telstra Desire, even though it's already rooted? (I can still restore my backup from my stock rom via Nandroid).
Thanks
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I made a Goldcard using a 2gb microSD but when I booted my phone with it, it wouldn't load anything (just displayed wallpaper), which I think is due to the rom requiring an SD partition (which this SD didn't have, so some required data may have not been on it therefore the phone didn't function). I then mounted it from recovery, and used the Goldcard tool to make it, should this work?

museiscool8 said:
I rooted my Telstra HTC Desire 2.2 with Unrevoked last night, and after a little bit of perseverance I finally got it to work, and I flashed the InsertCoin rom onto it.
Now I'm reading the forums, and apparently I need this thing called a Goldcard, and I've been reading around and still haven't figured out what they do, can I please have some help here?
Apparently it's only required for an unroot, but I may want to unroot in the future if I need to send it back due to warranty, and I have no idea how to get one because I already flashed a new rom. I still have the Nandroid backup from my stock rom, but I obviously made the backup after I rooted it with Unrevoked.
So here's my question, can I still create a Goldcard with my Telstra Desire, even though it's already rooted? (I can still restore my backup from my stock rom via Nandroid).
Thanks
[EDIT]
I made a Goldcard using a 2gb microSD but when I booted my phone with it, it wouldn't load anything (just displayed wallpaper), which I think is due to the rom requiring an SD partition (which this SD didn't have, so some required data may have not been on it therefore the phone didn't function). I then mounted it from recovery, and used the Goldcard tool to make it, should this work?
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Hello.
Your gold card isn't related to the phone. So yes you can still make a gold card or use one of your friends phone (i don't know for sure if it has to be the same model, but probably) and make one. The gold card is unique per SD Card.
You can rest assured though, cause until you want to go back to stock with no ROOT or S-OFF, it will pass a long time, and maybe you'll change your mind. Personally I was like you, scared that maybe I must go back to warranty if I get something wrong. But the truth is starting to arise: I'll never need to go to warranty If I don't do something stupid to my phone or my phone doesn't have any motherboard faults. First is easy to accomplish with a lot of reading before doing something. Almost everything is replaceable (Flashing bad ROM, kernel, recovery, etc.), but flashing Radio's and HBOOT's ain't. If you did something/something happened (USB Cable Disconnect, Pull The battery out etc.) when trying to flash these, then it is permanently bricked(no comebacks). I don't want to scare you, but you should pay a lot of attention when flashing these. The second it depends on the phone itself.
Hope that helped.

Thanks for your help
Now I have another problem, and instead of making another thread, I might as well make use of this one.
For some reason, I can't download any "large" apps from the market (google maps, angry birds, etc), and I've searched there is a fix for this but it involves something to do with the market cache and moving it to the SD Ext Partition?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd like the possibility to download large apps from the market since I've rooted, and I want to use the full potential of my phone since I actually have some internal space now.
So how would I go about fixing this market cache problem? I've seen some fixes for CM7 but none for the InsertCoin rom I'm running, any ideas?

museiscool8 said:
Now I have another problem, and instead of making another thread, I might as well make use of this one.
For some reason, I can't download any "large" apps from the market (google maps, angry birds, etc), and I've searched there is a fix for this but it involves something to do with the market cache and moving it to the SD Ext Partition?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd like the possibility to download large apps from the market since I've rooted, and I want to use the full potential of my phone since I actually have some internal space now.
So how would I go about fixing this market cache problem? I've seen some fixes for CM7 but none for the InsertCoin rom I'm running, any ideas?
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Hi.
Yep, I've heard about this new problem, since google allowed downloads of larger files from Market. Since some custom HBOOTS or even Stock HBOOK have the cache partition smaller than the file you are trying to download it won't be possible to save it.
You should search for a script that moves Dalvik-cache to SD or SD EXT. If the developer of the ROM hasn't made this than you have to search for (don't know if there is such script) it or try to ask it directly in the ROM forum. You should be able to get more help there.

[Q] Evo vibrates 5 times on boot, only hboot accessible

A few days ago while flashing a new rom, my Evo quit booting. I wouldn't consider myself a n00b, but I'm out of ideas. Here is what I have done:
* used unrevoked3 and unrevoked-forever to obtain root and s-off at least a year ago
* used CM7.1 stable as my daily driver
* used stock to update radios around the time CM7.1 went to stable
* flashed deck's ICS preview4 to test an app on 4.0, after doing a nandroid and wiping in cwm 5.0.22 (I think that was the version)
* the phone refused to boot, vibrating 5 times and flashing the green notification light
* going into hboot, s-on is back somehow
* recovery could only be reached if the usb was plugged in
* recovery could not mount the sdcard, so no nandroid restore
* tried several stock PC36IMG.zip until 4.24.651.1 finally flashed in hboot
* the phone still won't boot, either vibrating 5 times or showing the red ! triangle
* the 4.24.651.1 RUU tells me my battery is < 30% even though I let my phone charge all night
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. I don't really want to pay $450 for a new Evo. Thanks in advance.

Custom rom name it the same as img and see if that works if all else fails ruu and revolutionary
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VaughnOnix said:
A few days ago while flashing a new rom, my Evo quit booting. I wouldn't consider myself a n00b, but I'm out of ideas. Here is what I have done:
* used unrevoked3 and unrevoked-forever to obtain root and s-off at least a year ago
* used CM7.1 stable as my daily driver
* used stock to update radios around the time CM7.1 went to stable
* flashed deck's ICS preview4 to test an app on 4.0, after doing a nandroid and wiping in cwm 5.0.22 (I think that was the version)
* the phone refused to boot, vibrating 5 times and flashing the green notification light
* going into hboot, s-on is back somehow
* recovery could only be reached if the usb was plugged in
* recovery could not mount the sdcard, so no nandroid restore
* tried several stock PC36IMG.zip until 4.24.651.1 finally flashed in hboot
* the phone still won't boot, either vibrating 5 times or showing the red ! triangle
* the 4.24.651.1 RUU tells me my battery is < 30% even though I let my phone charge all night
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. I don't really want to pay $450 for a new Evo. Thanks in advance.
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I had this happen to me a little less than a month ago and it ruined my weekend. I fortunately have a repair plan with Sprint as a "just incase" practice, so I just flashed stock and removed root, then brought in my phone claiming it just "restarted" and the software crashed, breaking my USB and SD card controller. The people at Sprint thought it was just "lint in my MicroUSB port," I laugh and told them to turn it on and they looked at my with a puzzled "wtf did you do to it!?" look.
What caused my problem was my SD card was full when I attempted to backup my ROM. This caused CWM fail at a backup and bricked my phone. Is this what happened to you by any chance?
I never did "fix" my phone's usb/SD management issue, but was able to temporarily boot it, but was plagued with random restarts. I'd like to throw in some links but I'm pinched for time seeing as I need to leave for work. (Search XDA) There was a Android 2.2 image that was I able to flash in the bootloader that let boot fully. But it will erase all traces of root. - Before you try and do anything else, research into if there is ANYTHING you can do with adb over WiFi, because that was the one thing that I didn't try. What I'm saying is to do a lot of reading before you start flashing anything, plan out your attack before you execute it. Because I ended up digging myself a deep hole by just randomly flashing images.
Wish you luck man, sorry I wasn't of much help.

nrm5110 said:
Custom rom name it the same as img and see if that works if all else fails ruu and revolutionary
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Hboot finds the renamed CM7.1 zip and checks it, but does not offer to flash it. I assume this is because s-on is back. Also, I mentioned that RUU is claiming my battery is too low to flash.

OMGWTF_BBQ said:
I had this happen to me a little less than a month ago and it ruined my weekend. I fortunately have a repair plan with Sprint as a "just incase" practice, so I just flashed stock and removed root, then brought in my phone claiming it just "restarted" and the software crashed, breaking my USB and SD card controller. The people at Sprint thought it was just "lint in my MicroUSB port," I laugh and told them to turn it on and they looked at my with a puzzled "wtf did you do to it!?" look.
What caused my problem was my SD card was full when I attempted to backup my ROM. This caused CWM fail at a backup and bricked my phone. Is this what happened to you by any chance?
I never did "fix" my phone's usb/SD management issue, but was able to temporarily boot it, but was plagued with random restarts. I'd like to throw in some links but I'm pinched for time seeing as I need to leave for work. (Search XDA) There was a Android 2.2 image that was I able to flash in the bootloader that let boot fully. But it will erase all traces of root. - Before you try and do anything else, research into if there is ANYTHING you can do with adb over WiFi, because that was the one thing that I didn't try. What I'm saying is to do a lot of reading before you start flashing anything, plan out your attack before you execute it. Because I ended up digging myself a deep hole by just randomly flashing images.
Wish you luck man, sorry I wasn't of much help.
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My sdcard has over 4gb available space. I flashed stock 2.3 in the bootloader but it still refuses to boot (as mentioned in the original post). As far as I know, you need to be able to boot to use adb. The only images I have tried to flash are stock images and CM7.1.
This is starting to look bleak...

I appologize I didn't see it man
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VaughnOnix said:
My sdcard has over 4gb available space. I flashed stock 2.3 in the bootloader but it still refuses to boot (as mentioned in the original post). As far as I know, you need to be able to boot to use adb. The only images I have tried to flash are stock images and CM7.1.
This is starting to look bleak...
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Sorry, my previous post was in a rush. (As is this one, lol)
Really? So your phone just screwed up out of no where while flashing the ICS alpha4 rom? Were you using CWM? Because if so, I'm switching to Amon RA asap.
Moving on, I know how you're feeling right now. But, I still have hope.
As previously stated, after ruining my EVO I was able to flash a PC36IMG.zip that allowed me to boot my EVO. I had to do some serious digging, but I found the thread I used with the ROM that worked http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884060.
None of the old Megaupload links work, but this filesonic one does. Download it and flash it in your bootloader. Its signed, it should work. Try to flash it twice if anything. If it still doesn't work, try one of the newer ROMs. I'm only guessing that's the one that worked for me.
The only problem is that I don't think that's a 2.3 ROM, and we need a 2.2 ROM. Because the only root method that doesn't use a USB/SD Card is this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701004 If you can get
If you can get your EVO rooted again with S-Off, follow this guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695243 (Original) and you might be home free. But as of now, your goal is to find a stock 2.2 PC36IMG. Hopefully someone else can help here.
I sadly have to get to bed. Just got off work and I need to get some rest, another long day tomorrow. Good luck! I'll be back here next chance I get.

Same thing here
I'm having the exact same issue - flashed ICS alpha 4, now I can't mount my SD card. I don't have the red triangle of death, but I am getting the 5 vibrations on trying to boot - can get to hboot, and was able to *almost* get the SD card to mount using this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695243
but that only yielded ICS "preparing SD card" and "checking SD card for errors" indefinitely. I backed up and formatted my SD card, and this at least let me browse the empty sd card in Clockwork Recovery - I am in the process of copying my cwm backups back to the sd card in the hopes of being able to restore them from cwm. I'll keep you posted on what happens, and will most likely try to RUU when I get home from work. Puzzling that my s turned back on again as well, it's been off for well over a year...

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spoonydx said:
I'm having the exact same issue - flashed ICS alpha 4, now I can't mount my SD card. I don't have the red triangle of death, but I am getting the 5 vibrations on trying to boot - can get to hboot, and was able to *almost* get the SD card to mount using this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695243
but that only yielded ICS "preparing SD card" and "checking SD card for errors" indefinitely. I backed up and formatted my SD card, and this at least let me browse the empty sd card in Clockwork Recovery - I am in the process of copying my cwm backups back to the sd card in the hopes of being able to restore them from cwm. I'll keep you posted on what happens, and will most likely try to RUU when I get home from work. Puzzling that my s turned back on again as well, it's been off for well over a year...
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*** Update ***
Ok, so after all that, I was able to restore my backup from within recovery, copy all of my data back to the sd card, and now I'm back in business...mostly. I still get the 5 vibrations on boot *unless* i'm plugged into the computer, and even then it's not a sure thing (usually takes 3 or 4 tries to get it to boot). At least I have a functioning phone again. Next step - RUU and factory reset, and see what happens. Again, I'll post back with my results. Hope this helps someone

[Q] Completed Factory Reset (MIUI) and SDCard format and now soft-bricked!

Hey folks,
Thanks for taking the time to read/assist. I don't typically do these kinds of posts and am at my wit's end!
Phone's Previous Setup - MIUI Gingerbread, Rooted (but with S-ON after the fact).
What happened:
My HTC Incredible finally got to the point of being practically unuseable with laggy behavior and random restarts and the like, so I decided to complete a reset to factory settings or wipe.
I completed my backups using Titanium (apps) and ClockworkMod Recovery (full backup). After this, I went ahead and opened up Settings and directed the phone to complete a Reset to Factory Settings. It ran through the process, rebooted, and came up jelly. While no custom apps were installed (expected), my folder settings on my main home page were saved, along with some previous text messages. I was pleasantly surprised.
From here, I wished to wipe the SD Card so as to make sure it was clean of any residual folders/files that might cause conflict down the road (based on advice from others). So, headed to the SD card part of the settings. Had to unmount the SD card to format, proceeded to do so.
Here's where things went wonky: Despite receiving a confirmation that the SD card format had proceeded, nothing else ever happened. I attempted to mount the card again w/o luck (kept getting a msg that it was now unmounted). Eventually, I decided to go ahead and restart the phone and see if that helps. Big mistake.
From this point forward, the phone refuses to fully start up into any Android ROM. Initially, it hung on the white HTC Incredible splash screen (yes, even w/ giving it an hour+ of time). I tried wiping and reflashing different ROMS over the period of the day yesterday to no avail.
Doing a full recovery via ClockworkMod (from my backup that I made before and copied back onto the SD card via USB) leaves me stuck on the HTC Incredible white splash screen.
MIUI - 2.2.10
Hangs on white splash screen
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed
MIUI - 2.2.17
Loads past white and MIUI splash screens
Instead of loading into Android homescreen, immediately loads up "Encryption" error and directs to "reset phone."
Repeated restart and attempts of resetting phone don't work
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
MIUI - 1.12.9
Hangs on white splash screen.
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
CM - 7.1.0
Hangs/loops on CM splash screen.
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
CM - 6.1.0
Hangs/loops on CM splash screen.
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
I looked into HBOOT options, getting PB31IMG.ZIP and PG86IMG.ZIP.img thinking maybe I could try reverting to stock at a friend's suggestion. HBOOT sees the files and "checks" them, even briefly showing a small vertical blue loading bar at the top-right corner, but never attempts to run/update them as I am lead to expect from all the instructions/encounters I've found on the net suggest. The screen info flashes by so quickly, I can barely read it, but I confirmed that it said "checking" and not updating or such. x.x
I considered trying to flash an updated copy of ClockworkMod Recovery, but I cannot do that w/o being able to load up the phone into Android.
I cannot run anything desktop-side, like ADB, as they all require the phone started up and put into USB-debugging mode.
I've looked into and tried all this and more, but nothing seems to be working.
My next idea is to try to forcibly downgrade the phone. Reasoning being that I read that the HBOOT will not try to update if it senses that the ROM is newer than its default settings(?). So, I need a good choice of "old" ROM that I can attempt to install via the HBOOT or CWM Recovery, and verify I have the correct files for HBOOT to try updating/running.
Again, this is a speculative attempt, but I'm willing to try whatever might work! Otherwise, I've got a fancy brick and my well-being on the line w/ no $$ to replace the phone. x.x
Thanks again for reading and hopefully offering some wonderful assistance! Sorry it's so long!
Feel free to ask Qs if you need clarification on stuff.

wigmuke said:
Hey folks,
Thanks for taking the time to read/assist. I don't typically do these kinds of posts and am at my wit's end!
Phone's Previous Setup - MIUI Gingerbread, Rooted (but with S-ON after the fact).
What happened:
My HTC Incredible finally got to the point of being practically unuseable with laggy behavior and random restarts and the like, so I decided to complete a reset to factory settings or wipe.
I completed my backups using Titanium (apps) and ClockworkMod Recovery (full backup). After this, I went ahead and opened up Settings and directed the phone to complete a Reset to Factory Settings. It ran through the process, rebooted, and came up jelly. While no custom apps were installed (expected), my folder settings on my main home page were saved, along with some previous text messages. I was pleasantly surprised.
From here, I wished to wipe the SD Card so as to make sure it was clean of any residual folders/files that might cause conflict down the road (based on advice from others). So, headed to the SD card part of the settings. Had to unmount the SD card to format, proceeded to do so.
Here's where things went wonky: Despite receiving a confirmation that the SD card format had proceeded, nothing else ever happened. I attempted to mount the card again w/o luck (kept getting a msg that it was now unmounted). Eventually, I decided to go ahead and restart the phone and see if that helps. Big mistake.
From this point forward, the phone refuses to fully start up into any Android ROM. Initially, it hung on the white HTC Incredible splash screen (yes, even w/ giving it an hour+ of time). I tried wiping and reflashing different ROMS over the period of the day yesterday to no avail.
Doing a full recovery via ClockworkMod (from my backup that I made before and copied back onto the SD card via USB) leaves me stuck on the HTC Incredible white splash screen.
MIUI - 2.2.10
Hangs on white splash screen
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed
MIUI - 2.2.17
Loads past white and MIUI splash screens
Instead of loading into Android homescreen, immediately loads up "Encryption" error and directs to "reset phone."
Repeated restart and attempts of resetting phone don't work
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
MIUI - 1.12.9
Hangs on white splash screen.
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
CM - 7.1.0
Hangs/loops on CM splash screen.
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
CM - 6.1.0
Hangs/loops on CM splash screen.
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
I looked into HBOOT options, getting PB31IMG.ZIP and PG86IMG.ZIP.img thinking maybe I could try reverting to stock at a friend's suggestion. HBOOT sees the files and "checks" them, even briefly showing a small vertical blue loading bar at the top-right corner, but never attempts to run/update them as I am lead to expect from all the instructions/encounters I've found on the net suggest. The screen info flashes by so quickly, I can barely read it, but I confirmed that it said "checking" and not updating or such. x.x
I considered trying to flash an updated copy of ClockworkMod Recovery, but I cannot do that w/o being able to load up the phone into Android.
I cannot run anything desktop-side, like ADB, as they all require the phone started up and put into USB-debugging mode.
I've looked into and tried all this and more, but nothing seems to be working.
My next idea is to try to forcibly downgrade the phone. Reasoning being that I read that the HBOOT will not try to update if it senses that the ROM is newer than its default settings(?). So, I need a good choice of "old" ROM that I can attempt to install via the HBOOT or CWM Recovery, and verify I have the correct files for HBOOT to try updating/running.
Again, this is a speculative attempt, but I'm willing to try whatever might work! Otherwise, I've got a fancy brick and my well-being on the line w/ no $$ to replace it. x.x
Thanks again for reading and hopefully offering some wonderful assistance! Sorry it's so long!
Feel free to ask Qs if you need clarification on stuff.
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You need to gain s-off again before flashing with clockwork. How come you turned it back on?
"In a nutshell, S-OFF means that the NAND portion of the device is unlocked and can be written to. The default setting for HTC’s devices is S-ON, which means that neither can you access certain areas of the system nor can you guarantee a permanent root. Furthermore, signature check for firmware images is also ensured by the S-ON flag."
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gain s=off boot into CMW wipe data, and factory reset. Flash a new rom of your choice and then boot. should get you back to a working phone.

synisterwolf said:
You need to gain s-off again before flashing with clockwork. How come you turned it back on?
"In a nutshell, S-OFF means that the NAND portion of the device is unlocked and can be written to. The default setting for HTC’s devices is S-ON, which means that neither can you access certain areas of the system nor can you guarantee a permanent root. Furthermore, signature check for firmware images is also ensured by the S-ON flag."
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gain s=off boot into CMW wipe data, and factory reset. Flash a new rom of your choice and then boot. should get you back to a working phone.
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The first time my phone was rooted/flashed, my bf did it for me. He used Unrevoked to root it and install CWM Recovery (v2.5.1.2 presently). I recall conversation being that having S-On would be better security with regards to the cell carrier (e.g., good to leave on, bad if off as they can see you rooted). So I agreed to having it put back to S-On, which I understood he then took care of.
Fast-forward a year and he now tells me he didn't actually end up running the other Unrevoked (Forever) tool to put S-On back in place, but that it simply *was*, so he left it that way. o.o;
Keep in mind, I've flashed 3 different ROMs since he originally rooted and flashed, w/o issues.
I pulled up everything to try re-rooting it again (to gain S-Off), but the instructions required having the phone loaded up and in debugging mode, which I cannot do as I cannot start up the phone past recovery in the first place.
Did I miss something that allows it via recovery? Going to check again in the meantime.

wigmuke said:
The first time my phone was rooted/flashed, my bf did it for me. He used Unrevoked to root it and install CWM Recovery (v2.5.1.2 presently). I recall conversation being that having S-On would be better security with regards to the cell carrier (e.g., good to leave on, bad if off as they can see you rooted). So I agreed to having it put back to S-On, which I understood he then took care of.
Fast-forward a year and he now tells me he didn't actually end up running the other Unrevoked (Forever) tool to put S-On back in place, but that it simply *was*, so he left it that way. o.o;
Keep in mind, I've flashed 3 different ROMs since he originally rooted and flashed, w/o issues.
I pulled up everything to try re-rooting it again (to gain S-Off), but the instructions required having the phone loaded up and in debugging mode, which I cannot do as I cannot start up the phone past recovery in the first place.
Did I miss something that allows it via recovery? Going to check again in the meantime.
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actually its better to keep it s=off so this type of situation wont happen. Your carrier cant see your hboot from my understanding on how this phone works. They dont care if you have root or not, unless you are trying to exchange the phone for another one from them or for insurance reasons. With root you only void your warranty on the phone and not your contract or anything to do with VZW. S=off is just a NAND lock, meaning you cant add your own custom recover to the phone, and you are limited to builds that come from VZW themselves (ie the security signature check).
If you ever want to take the phone back to them because its defective or call insurance then you need to remove root and S=on. but thats the only time you need to toggle the NAND lock.
ok so you will need to ruu to stock, downgrade then gain s=off over again:
for the ruu for GB:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1227279
a guide to do this all after you ruu:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400

OMG I may've gotten it!
So I decided to give things another go with attempting to revert to stock again, as at this point, nothing is going to work other than via HBOOT.
I completed another reformat of the SD Card (Fat32) to be on the overcautious side and copied over ONLY the PB32IMG.zip file and restarted into HBOOT.
(Ah.. new user, so not allowed to post the link of where I got it.)
This time, much like before, it scanned, found the file, and did a parsing/loading. However, THIS TIME it actually prompted me to update! I chose yes (Vol+) and let it do its thing.
At this time, I am happy to announce that it actually is back up stock!
Wooohoo! Now to get it back to how I like it again. XD
If nothing else, hope this information helps someone else later on.

wigmuke said:
OMG I may've gotten it!
So I decided to give things another go with attempting to revert to stock again, as at this point, nothing is going to work other than via HBOOT.
I completed another reformat of the SD Card (Fat32) to be on the overcautious side and copied over ONLY the PB32IMG.zip file and restarted into HBOOT.
(Ah.. new user, so not allowed to post the link of where I got it.)
This time, much like before, it scanned, found the file, and did a parsing/loading. However, THIS TIME it actually prompted me to update! I chose yes (Vol+) and let it do its thing.
At this time, I am happy to announce that it actually is back up stock!
Wooohoo! Now to get it back to how I like it again. XD
If nothing else, hope this information helps someone else later on.
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You might have lost root if you did the ruu from hboot. to check download the app "super user" from market that will tell you if you still have root or not.

Alright, now that I'm back to stock and runnin' smoothly, I need to figure out what route to take for rooting and flashing. Everyone talks about Unrevoked3, but I've heard there're other newer tools, too.
What would you recommend?
....also, sorry for the weird delay/disjointed/incomplete responses. I keep forgetting that XDA severely limits my posting capabilities. I wanted to say super thanks wolf, for all your help and sticking with me! Your input is appreciated. And yes, I'm pretty sure I lost all root, etc. It is back to "out-of-the-box" stock as far as I can tell.

wigmuke said:
Alright, now that I'm back to stock and runnin' smoothly, I need to figure out what route to take for rooting and flashing. Everyone talks about Unrevoked3, but I've heard there're other newer tools, too.
What would you all recommend?
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unrevoked3 is the easiest way. but you will need to downgrade to android 2.2 for the security exploit.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
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wigmuke said:
....also, sorry for the weird delay/disjointed/incomplete responses. I keep forgetting that XDA severely limits my posting capabilities. I wanted to say super thanks wolf, for all your help and sticking with me! Your input is appreciated. And yes, I'm pretty sure I lost all root, etc. It is back to "out-of-the-box" stock as far as I can tell.
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lol now worries. easiest way to get to the 10 limit is just pad the count in here. ie just say something 10 times and you are good to go.

synisterwolf said:
unrevoked3 is the easiest way. but you will need to downgrade to android 2.2 for the security exploit.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
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Good news, I'm on 2.2 stock right now (just checked to confirm). So should be able to just go ahead and run Unrevoked3 then.
Also, the most popular recovery I'm aware of is ClockworkMod Recovery. I found that it's up to version 5.0.2.0. Would you recommend anything else or know of a newer version?
Figure if I'm going to do this, might as well do it right.

wigmuke said:
Good news, I'm on 2.2 stock right now (just checked to confirm). So should be able to just go ahead and run Unrevoked3 then.
Also, the most popular recovery I'm aware of is ClockworkMod Recovery. I found that it's up to version 5.0.2.0. Would you recommend anything else or know of a newer version?
Figure if I'm going to do this, might as well do it right.
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Nope I'm RunNing that one and it works well.
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