Hi all
wondering how many other forumites are suffering from the following issue:
a slow, laggy, unresponsive SMS application after the number of SMS' in a given conversation/inbox exceeds around 2000 SMS'
who else has had this trouble and has anyone found a fix for it apart from the obvious (deleting SMS', even deleting SMS' takes an age)
many thanks
Why would you ever have that many SMS messages? Get rid of them or archive them somewhere. Of course you'd have problems loading all of those messages! The conversation formatting isn't designed for that, developers learned that with IM programs a long time ago!
thats the thing
i've tried deleting them, but even then it takes an absolute age to delete, im talking hours.
and im sorry but this is the only thing i HATE about WM, the inability to handle a few thousand SMS's, like every NOKIA since 1992
Hmm, then it seems a bit odd to me. I have a setting that deletes them after a little while automatically. It's like if there's 20 messages, it auto-deletes.
Let me look around and find out where it is.
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I don't know either its my phone that lags or the rom, but recently after installing Energy rom, going into sms mode to send a text to someone takes at least 10 seconds. Is there a fix for this? Or is it my phone's problem
I've read that it's got something to do with WinMo 6.5. I don't have in depth knowledge of the topic myself. All I can tell you from my personal experience is that I've seen the same lag ever since I got off of the stock Sprint 6.1 ROM. (Been using variations of MightyRom ever since). It aggravates the hell out of me.
I bought this phone because, at the time, it was the best Windows Mobile phone on the market. If this was the best, I'd hate to see the worst. It doesn't even do simple BS like SMS as well as my old throw-away LG dumbphone did. Don't even get me started on the lagginess, freeze-ups and other pains of the 'advanced' functions...
Yeah with my TP2 whenever I open a text convo, do my thing, then exit.. it takes atleast 10-15 seconds to un-freeze into the All Messages window.. tried clearing the ram, but still nothing..
This is horrible! I recently started having this problem, if you have a really long text message conversation, the phone becomes completely un******* usable. I threw mine out the window of my truck today I was so aggravated. Mine has gotten to the point that you have to pull the battery out, or wait 5-10 minutes after you close out the text messaging thread. I'm getting an Evo - I really want to stay on TP2 but if I cant even text message, this phone/winmo 6.5 is totally junk. I'm hoping someone has a fix or tweak for this.
The only solution is to purge your messages, Arcsoft likes to load up all the messages before allowing you to do anything, sucking up alot of RAM and CPU, so less messages = less work, you could also try the classic text messaging (non threaded), the new overclock app kinda helps with this stuff. And the HTC messaging client as a last resort. the structure of the app is different and it doesnt take quite as long to load the messages, and it unloads itself much quicker than arcsoft in my experience.
I try to not to keep any SMS older than 2 weeks. I'm not one of these SMS crack-junkies that likes to keep 20k messages on their phone. I only regularly text maybe 4-5 people, so I never have more than a couple hundred messages on my phone at any given time.
I'd actually delete them sooner, but there's no decent app to purge based on message age. SMSPurger is a slow, buggy piece of junk, and nobody else seems to have written an alternative.
That brings me back to my old LG phone. It had a function where it would auto delete the oldest message once the combined sent/received list hit 300(?) messages. New message comes in, oldest one gets deleted. Why is it my WinMo superphone can't do something this simple?
If the issue is that you want an auto delete program, then the reasoning is that No one like to develop for WinMo, and the SMS has kind of always been an issue on the Professional Version, I had no problems with the SMS on my first WinMo device, the Moto Q9h (kinda miss it). I have had SMS issues on all 4 of my PPCs LG CT810 (incite) hTC Raphael (Touch Pro), Rhodium 210 (Touch Pro 2) and Rhodium 300 (Tilt 2). Best solution I have had, purchase Sms-chat if you really like your texting, It was lag free, and worked 100%, the only thing that I didnt like was the cheesy iPhone rip off. The main reason I still get WinMo is because I HATE apple. - but anyway, your issue is suffered by many, and it might take a while to solve.
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Just install the fix from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=664915
I did it and it solved problems with sms in manila 2.5- no need to purge or delete long conversations.
Is it just me, or is the SMS screen a bit jerky and slow? I do have a 1000+ messages in there, but I can't imagine why it would make the scrolling so poor.
Hes got looooooooads of mates...
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Hes got looooooooads of mates...
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Actually it's almost 3 years worth of messages (transferred it from phone to phone).
Anyone else experiencing similar issues?
I had to factory reset my phone because of this a couple of days back. My contacts went blank and I could barely load the messages.
I can confirm this. Scrolling through sms is laggy and not very responsive. Even in threads with only less than 10 messages. So annoying...
Mines always been like that :-( grown to put up with it
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doesn't froyo fix this?
If you let your message count get that high, then you're bound to encounter speed loss with the app. Try clearing your messages? Unless you need to know what happened 3 years ago?
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If you let your message count get that high, then you're bound to encounter speed loss with the app.
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Technically no. They should have dealt with performance issues with a high volume of text messages. I work within software development, and something like this would most certainly raise a red flag.
Hey sorry to raise a thread from the dead.
My Messages app now runs extremely slowly - can take 5-10 seconds to load an SMS thread and sometimes lags when i'm typing a reply.
Sounds like other people have experienced similar issues. Does anyone have any suggestions for fixing this? It's almost certainly down to having a large number of messages in the thread (over 3,500 from this one contact for reasons i won't go into!) but surely with a modern smartphone it should be able to handle lots of text messages! My iPhone with 2 years worth of messages had no such issues.
One other issue - for no reason whatsoever it somtimes jumps me back up to the very top of the thread of texts meaning i either have to spend ages scrolling down or back up and reload it go get it to show the most recent ones. Anyone else experienced this?
I dont have any issues with lag etc but i second the jump-to-top issue.. its happening once a day for sure and im sooo sick of it! Anyone knows anything?
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So just as an update on my woes - my phone on Friday randomly wiped every single one of my text messages. I reset the phone but nothing came back.
Great.
On the plus side, messages is now running very fast. But seriously, a smartphone that can't handle lots of text messages (which are surely microscopic in file size) is just pathetic.
A person who can't be bothered to store extra messages seperatly is pathetic. There are apps to store/back up messages and if you are constantly referencing 2 year old messages you need help.
Just my opinion though.
I realise your comments aren't targeted at me but perhaps rather than just insulting someone's choices you could actually be helpeful and tell them the names of the apps you talk of.
Not even going to bother addressing the insular comments.
Search "SMS backup" on the market. There are lots and lots of apps. "Backup to gmail" is one I saw that looks good. I personally don't news or use any backup solution for SMS.
So I've been browsing the forums trying to figure out the fastest setup for my dash. I understand its becoming a very outdated phone but I still like its look and feel compared to some new ones.
I currently use the latest 3v0 and I'm very happy with the look and everything. I have some lag issues with it though, it starts running really choppy and anything I do starts locking it up. I mainly txt and make calls and even that can become a chore. Any suggestions on a faster setup for basicly just calls and txting? Or maybe some things to tweak without overclocking. I've tried overclocking and didnt notice any difference really.
Tell me if I am correct in assumming that you don't clear out your text messages often...
I don't clear out my text messages practically ever, and that kills my phone. In that respect, it has to do with tmail.exe. I believe that each time you open/close a thread of messages, it opens the ENTIRE database of messages related to that thread, and SAVES the entire thread of messages to the database (respectively). Its sort of a hassle, since I have had threads with friends that span on hundreds of messages, and it locks up my phone every time...
As far as a fast setup, i have 3VO (most recent) with the clock speed set to 240. Extended battery to compensate for overclocking (and then some) and minimal extra apps installed. I find that Windows Mobile is just like any other version of windows, it slows down after a while for some reason or another, so I find myself doing backups and Hard Resets often (Every couple of months) to keep the speed up. Its a hassle, but i've gotten it down to a science hehe.
Yeah I have a bad habit of doing that with my texts as well. I try to keep it cleared out anymore cause I've noticed how bad it gets. Is there any way to fix that? Or is it just something to live with cause of WM? I could see the whole hard reset thing, might have to try that.
Edit: So after posting this I looked at your sig and noticed Cmail I'm reading your post currently and about to try it. Does it avoid the issue you were speaking of?
No, it does not. CMail is a Command-line SMS sender. that is all it is.
HOWEVER...and I am only posting this here for the time being, I am researching the following:
1) C++ XML Libraries
2) C++ Multi-Threading
3) C++ Advanced GUIs
The three are going to come together in, what I hope to be, a full replacement to tMail.exe . I am sick and tired of the issues with it...slowing down the ROM, slow loading times, locking up the ROM, randomly deleting messages (when it locks up the ROM), not scrolling correctly in Threaded mode, etc. etc. etc. I am probably going to re-make tmail, and try to avoid the CE MAPI. All messages will be kept in XML files, free for people to copy to their computers. Hopefully I can make an improvement there. (The only downside would be that I am probably going to try to not use CE MAPI, as I find it to be a mess, and apps with dependencies to CE MAPI will have issues). I will probably fix this up by simply having my program mark messages read in the CE MAPI database, and handle everything else by itself. It'll be a tough project, but if it gets support, then I am sure it will take off
Well that sounds like a big task, but would deffinitely make things work better. I guess for now I'll deal with it. Sadly I'll probably get a new phone before something like that comes out. In the mean time I'll deal with my text messaging chop shop.
im having odd issues with texting..
On using either the standard text app or handcent.
-When i open the program it takes 10-20 seconds to load.
-Clicking on a thread sometimes results in a completly different thread to open
-Sometimes threads take upwards of 20-30 seconds to open.
-When a text is received it takes 10-15 seconds to be able to reply or even use the phone.
Ive tried reflashing, wiping dalvik.
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Do you have a bunch of text history on your phone? I found that if I have a bunch of stored texts, it slowed down the messaging app.
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Yeah, i nearly never delete my texts. why should having a bunch of text slow down the program. this seems like something that should be resolved...
That sort of thing is a problem on pretty much every phone. If you want to resolve it, clear out some texts. If you think about it, it makes complete sense why it slows everything down. It's because the messaging app tries to load as many messages into memory as it possibly can, since it doesn't know if you're gonna go and try to look at an SMS from forever ago. Just like having a bunch of crap on your computer slows it down, same thing with a smartphone.
Sounds like the cache is gigantic...clear the cache from the applications menu, or delete some messages.
think of it this way.... we are carrying a flaghip phone for a company who is in the running for dominating the market. The average user does not delete their texts nor would they know how to.
This is an issue regarding both cache and application.
the resolve for this would create a simple script to archive texts for each user and archive each user past a page.
If indeed it is of course a text issue.
Deleting texts is for cheats and whores. i save all of mine to throw it in their face.
or is it more of an issue that the sprint developers cannot find a legitimate reason to push the text msg file to the sd card to help quicken the phone.
prior to me using an android based phone, texting was my addiction. Now, its a hassle. in the age that twitter and fb status breaks free, dont you think txts should be common place?
in the age that twitter and fb status breaks free, dont you think txts should be common place?
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No, you should be using trillian or google talk by now, texting is for children.
You should write HTC a strongly worded letter for them to fix this outrage that every other smartphone ever has.
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No, you should be using trillian or google talk by now, texting is for children.
You should write HTC a strongly worded letter for them to fix this outrage that every other smartphone ever has.
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i dont want to port my number to GV i like having two seperate numbers as it is.
I have one of the original Dell Venue Pro devices and have used it heavily for 2 years doing browsing, email, and SMS. Recently the phone started slowing down in a manner that seemed to affect every feature and function. Turn on the phone, and the wallpaper appeared by itself, making me wait to see what time it was and my latest notifications. Unlocking the phone required me to wait as well, staring at the keypad before the screen responded to my touch. The touchscreen was laggy all the time. Everything appeared to be running equally slowly. Frustrating.
Fixed it by deleting my IE cache and most/all of the conversations in my SMS history. I had some long conversations, but also use 2-factor authentication for Google Mail and receive txts every time I log in. The thing about Google Mail's txts is that they come from a different number each time, so instead of a long SMS thread in my phone about Google verification codes I had hundreds of separate conversations each with one message. Deleting everything was a tedious process, but it totally worked. The phone is snappy once again.
I'm posting this so that folks dealing with laggy, slow WP7 have something specific to try, rather than the "solution" being suggested by MSFT support to do hard resets of the device and lose all your files/pics/appdata in the process.
A similar issue was discussed in terms of dealing with very long conversations (1000+messages):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030132
But in my case I was dealing with slowness affecting everything, not just when viewing a very long conversation.
Thank you for posting. I'll be sure to keep this in mind if I run into a similar problem.