browsing while on call - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Hi Experts,
Just wanted to know if i there is any cab available by you guys, that i can browse internet while i am on call, As i have seen that Touch pro2 doesnt support browsing while on call. Need some experts suggestions if thats possible or no. Thanks
Regds,
Rankit

rankitt said:
Hi Experts,
Just wanted to know if i there is any cab available by you guys, that i can browse internet while i am on call, As i have seen that Touch pro2 doesnt support browsing while on call. Need some experts suggestions if thats possible or no. Thanks
Regds,
Rankit
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What kind of TP2 do you have? The GSM versions (i.e., non-Verizon/Sprint) support simultaneous voice and data while on 3G.

This functionality gets broken if you set the data connections to time out. The default registry setting is to leave data connections open, and this is usually viewed as a battery killer, so some opt to set an auto-disconnect after X secs or mins.
\HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings\SuspendResume and CacheTime are the registry entries that should be left at default in order to do what you're wanting. And like MCbrian stated, you have to be on the 3G network for this to work (no "E" or "G" on GSM phones).

My phone is singapore SEA version, but using it in USA. its an unlocked version with unbranded.

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Using GPRS and Phone at the same time (O2 IIs)

I've had all three HTC products and really love the IIs. I also have a T-Mobile branded IPAQ 6315. On the IPAQ, I'm able to use GPRS to surf the net, and at the same time I can place calls, which is really helpful because I can view the screen while surfing and have the speaker-phone on so I can talk and look at the screen at the same time.
When using the IIs, I'm only able to use one at a time, or so it seems. Does the IIs have the capability of using both at the same time like the IPAQ? The IIs I bought has never been locked and was purchased new.
Thanks for your help, I live in the States.
Good question...
Any answer...
Come on we can't let HP beat us on this!
Hi,
well, this kind of feature will most likely never be available to an XDAIIs/MDAIII. What determines whether that is possible is the class of GSM chip being used. The iPAQ 6315 appears to be using a Class A chip, whereas the XDAIIs/MDAIII seems to have a Class B chip (http://www.gsmworld.com/technology/gprs/class.shtml).
Treo
It only works after the page is finished loading.
Is your HP a CDMA version orGSM?
On GSM, you can't do GPRS and Voice at the same time - GPRS is suspended. Technology limitation.
UMTS you can, and I think CDMA2000
Anonymous said:
Is your HP a CDMA version orGSM?
On GSM, you can't do GPRS and Voice at the same time - GPRS is suspended. Technology limitation.
UMTS you can, and I think CDMA2000
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As said above: http://www.gsmworld.com/technology/gprs/class.shtml. You can with Class A.
On my motorola phones the phone rings and the gprs stops. On the pda2k it just merrily keeps working and the phonecall goes to voicemail.
This is something I'd actually like to turn off as I prefer being interrupted if someone is trying to get hold of me.
Anyone know how its done?
jacoch said:
Anonymous said:
Is your HP a CDMA version orGSM?
On GSM, you can't do GPRS and Voice at the same time - GPRS is suspended. Technology limitation.
UMTS you can, and I think CDMA2000
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As said above: http://www.gsmworld.com/technology/gprs/class.shtml. You can with Class A.
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Very clever - this is a TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION.
Can you name ONE device that is GPRS Class A?
For the other user - GPRS has been setup by most operators to be a secondary service, or in other words, a GSM call should go through. The only time this won't happen is if you are intensely receiving data for >2s, eg like during a mail sync or ftp download, where the GPRS modem is going flat out
it doesn't work
I used to use it with t-mobile on the 6315, and costumer service told me that it will never work, hardware limitations!
In fact every time i was online, I will miss calls and the will go to voicemail, not even ring!
I was hoping for it too!
:evil: :evil: :evil: I am looking for the same answer as well. Is there a settings on the IIs so that I could either take the call or deny the call while I am on GRPS session?
With the SE P910i it will do that with some tweeking on the connection name that may be specific to my operator (FIDO).
I used the following connection name on the P910i everything works perfectly afterwards:
<account name>
However, the PocketPC OS do not like <> characters in the connection name.
Southern_Man said:
Can you name ONE device that is GPRS Class A?
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Sony Ericsson P900 (my previous phone)
If you put GPRS/GSM on auto it quite happily let you do both at once. Occasionaly it warned you that outgoing phonecalls would suspend GPRS and likewise it dropped them on incoming calls, but 95% of the time I could surf+talk at the same time :-(

Query: Simultaneous GPRS data transfer & Voice call

I have an MDA C3. When web & walk is transferring internet Data and a call comes in, the phone does not ring. It goes directly to the voicemail.
T-Mobile customer service tell me that this is correct as you can either transfer internet data or make a call.
Is that right? I thought that was with WAP which is analagous to dial-up. Surely GPRS is analagous to Broadband.
Anyone else want to try this:
Go to Web & walk home page. Attempt loading up the guardian page (This will take a while). Whilst this is loading, call your phone number and see if it rings or goes direct to VM.
I spend lots of time browsing so I must be losing lots of calls!
Feedback greatly appreciated.
From what I have heard only UMTS devices can support simultaneous voice/data.
Yes - but not GRPS that uses GSM band instead of UMTS.
However, some devices have troubles keeping the data link active when a call comes in.
I am having the same issue (also on T-Mobile UK).
Then IE is running or AS is downloading my mail (I use direct push) all my calls go straight to voicemail.
This is worrying as I just moved over to T-Mobile for the web n walk package to allow me to have instant e-mails. This is a pain if it means I miss calls whilst my mail is downloading.
You'd think that the chances of the 2 coinciding are slim (I don't get a lot of mail, maybe 10 per day) but the wife has already complained 3 times since Friday that she went straight to voicemail, and each time it was exactly as i got a new mail.
Is this a limit of GPRS, the Orbit or just T-Mobile?
Thanks
Dae
I was surprised too... Thats why I posted the query. I thought my phone and/or SIm were faulty. But T-Mobile tell me thats how its supposed to work.
With W&W and Email, Its really hard for someone to get through with a voice call. It was worrying for me as I tend to browse the net whenever I am waiting around. This means that when I am on the bus surfing, no one can get through to me!!
Surely if there is a limitation, then the phone should give precendence to the Voice call. After all, you can pick up your emails or surfing where you left off.
I would really be interested to see if this is a T-Mobile only problem.
No itschase is spot on.
It's not a t-Mobile problem, it's the same for any GSM based network.
Only 3g (UMTS) phones can do data and voice at the same time. No matter what network you are on.
I have just run an experiment in the office as follows:-
Me (artemis with v3 black and blue) - Voicemail when data active
person 1 (MDA compact III - v3 black and blue) - Voicemail when active
person 2 (hermes) - no Voicemail when active.
We are all on t-mobile UK, and therefore it doesn't look like a network issue, but maybe a ROM problem?
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therefore it doesn't look like a network issue, but maybe a ROM problem?
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What problem? Everything is working as it supposed to. If it's so important to you. Go buy a 3g phone!
I now fully appreciate that 3g phones are the only ones to support this type of behaviour.
I was trying to be helpful and post the results of my test as at that point I didn't realise that only 3g phones worked as such. I was lead to believe this by wikipedia:-
"Class B
Can be connected to GPRS service and GSM service (voice, SMS), but using only one or the other at a given time. During GSM service (voice call or SMS), GPRS service is suspended, and then resumed automatically after the GSM service (voice call or SMS) has concluded. Most GPRS mobile devices are Class B. "
Obviously this is not the case.
Bring on the HTC Kaiser!!!
Gajet said:
What problem? Everything is working as it supposed to. If it's so important to you. Go buy a 3g phone!
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I incorrectly assumed that whilst browsing, if a voice call comes in, the phone would give priority to the call.
If I had known what I know now at the time I signed my 18M contract I would have bought a 3g Phone! Its just annoying that i'm stuck with it for another 12M. T-Mobile push the fact that they have set the internet free... but what they fail to get across to everyday users is that its "AT THE EXPENSE OF THE VOICE CALLS"
Because T-Mobile forced you to buy one of their 2.5g phones rather than one of their 3g phones?
I have no problem receiving phone calls while browsing the internet on the P3300.
cduijker said:
I have no problem receiving phone calls while browsing the internet on the P3300.
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Neither have I to be honest, the issue only arises while you are actively downloading data. However once the website has loaded, you are free to accept calls again whilst still looking at the site in the browser.
Gajet said:
Neither have I to be honest, the issue only arises while you are actively downloading data. However once the website has loaded, you are free to accept calls again whilst still looking at the site in the browser.
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As a test I started downloading a dummy 32MB testfile on my P3300 (from speedtest.bbned.nl) and I called my mobile with another phone.
There was no problem; I received the call while downloading the file.
Maybe it depends on the operator? I am in Holland on T-Mobile
daesimps said:
I now fully appreciate that 3g phones are the only ones to support this type of behaviour.
I was trying to be helpful and post the results of my test as at that point I didn't realise that only 3g phones worked as such. I was lead to believe this by wikipedia:-
"Class B
Can be connected to GPRS service and GSM service (voice, SMS), but using only one or the other at a given time. During GSM service (voice call or SMS), GPRS service is suspended, and then resumed automatically after the GSM service (voice call or SMS) has concluded. Most GPRS mobile devices are Class B. "
Obviously this is not the case.
Bring on the HTC Kaiser!!!
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Hi,
It's not enough to have a class A (2G) device, but also DTM (Dual Transfer Mode/Simple Class A) support has to be active in the specific network, otherwise only 3G device on 3G network will provide Class A (simultaneous voice & data).
In fact, there are quite many models from Nokia during last year that support DTM, but as already mentioned, it's not enough.
FYI,
Zohar
cduijker said:
As a test I started downloading a dummy 32MB testfile on my P3300 (from speedtest.bbned.nl) and I called my mobile with another phone.
There was no problem; I received the call while downloading the file.
Maybe it depends on the operator? I am in Holland on T-Mobile
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Is that an EDGE network ?
I got the Artemis with PV Black&Blue v3 ROM.
I can receive calls while pages are loading in IE.
I think this is a provider problem.
The phone provider has to intercept your GPRS connection and establish the GSM connection. Maybe T-Mobile just rejects calls while a GPRS connection/transfer is active.
A1 intercepts the page download and my call comes in.
When I pick up, the GPRS connection is closed completely. (not just pending)
So receiving calls while surfing is no problem for me with Austrian A1 provider.
Any other experiences?
Gajet said:
Is that an EDGE network ?
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no, just gprs; no edge.
cduijker said:
no, just gprs; no edge.
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...then it's no way you'll get simultaneous voice and data (class a).

How to Turn OFF 3G & only have Edge?

Whenever I travel abroad and turn off my connection, my battery lasts for 48 hours without any problems vs 8 in the UK.
I use push e-mail, so I really do not need the 3G speed, they just drop in fine.
I googled all over the web I've not been able to find a auto turn off program yet?
I am on ROM Black Magic
Thx
I use Bandswitch on both my 8525s..
do a search and you will find the file.
Gary
Hi,
"Schaps 12 buttons with 3G band switch button" Works fine for most ppls.
Before you can install it you should study his thread a little bit, you may need too kill a certain registry string berfore.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310650
pronor
this wil do the trick
Even better, you can do this without third party tools.
Just go to your phone options.
Select the tab "band" and switch the network type from "auto" to "gsm".
Did this help you?
-P-
pimvis said:
Even better, you can do this without third party tools.
Just go to your phone options.
Select the tab "band" and switch the network type from "auto" to "gsm".
Did this help you?
-P-
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make sure you kill your data connection before hitting ok to make the change..
That's exactly what I do. Start-Settings-Phone-Band-GSM.
what do you gain with just edge vs 3g?
PostDeals said:
what do you gain with just edge vs 3g?
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My reason ist to save battery consumption
edge vs 3G
The main reasone i upgraded from the 8125 to the 8525 is so that while my phone was getting push updates from my exchange server callers would goto my voicemail without any warning. This is a problem with Edge voice or data not both...
OK, Scnapps does work w/ BlackMagic Roms
So I'll use the manual switch, it sounds fine
Thanks for the help, this 3G has been a total waste of time for me.
the only issue, I think all my GSM types have 3G:
GSM (900+1800) +UMTS2100
OR
GSM (1900+850)+ UMTS (1900+850)
OR
gsm (900+1800) +UMTS850
OR
GSM gsm (900+1800) +UMTS850+2100
Nothing without UMTS?

Calls possible with HSDPA Data Transfer?

Hi all
I experienced some problems since I upgraded to WM 6 (official Tytn Europe Version)
If there is a active Datatransfer in HSDPA Mode, i cannot make or receive a phone call. I already tried several Radio Versions (1.43/1.48/1.50), but no success. When I disable HSDPA, it works fine.
Does anybody has same issues with HSDPA?
Thanks
Marc
Vodafone issue
Hi - are you using a vodafone network? I know that there are issues on the network that are preventing some operators from supporting voice and data at teh same time over HSDPA....
The operators I know about are planning network upgrades or patches to solve the issues (which are not just limited to Windows Mobile devices apparently)
I can make calls -> versions below I don't think this is just a phone issue though. I think some operators can't do it.
I have the same problem as you have.
It is because of the infrastructure of my provider KPN that I have this problem. When I disable HSDPA then all works fine. So no I only use HSDPA when I want to browse on the Internet.
****ty but now I know why.........
Hi all
Thanks for the confirmation.
I also disabled HSDPA for now.
Now I will the push the guys in the network department to fix this issue......
Just got the answer from the tech guys. Operators with Ericsson UMTS/HSDPA Network Equipment are affected by this. The Operator has to rollout a software update to fix this issue.
Cheers
Marc
I am on AT&T and have never been able to do data and voice at hte same time.
I'm on At-T in Nyc and my HSDPA works just fine calls while on data and vice versa
I'm in South Florida and I'm constantly using Internet Sharing in HDSPA mode while talking on my Jawbone... (takes "jawbone of an ass" to a whole new level, ehehehe!)
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I'm in South Florida and I'm constantly using Internet Sharing in HDSPA mode while talking on my Jawbone... (takes "jawbone of an ass" to a whole new level, ehehehe!)
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OK, now THAT is the funniest thing I've read here! Thanks for the laugh!
I saw the jawbone at the ATT/Cingy store and wondered if I should splurge on it since I already have an H500 and an H700 from Motorola. My problem is I ride bike a lot and the wind noise makes it impossible to have a conversation with an H500. It is possible but a little difficult to talk while riding using the H700. I was wondering if you had any experience with the Jawbone under similar conditions?
Regards,
George
OOPs - That was meant to be PM, sorry folks!
The Hermes is able to do both. Phone calls and data (HSDPA\GPRS\EDGE) at the same time. Your data speed does take a hit due to bandwith.
However if you cannot is because is 99.999% the network NOT the phone. I had a Hermes long before the network here in Canada supported HSDPA. So I could only do one at the time. At the beginning of this year they finally updated it and I have been doing both at the same time with wild abandon no problem.
Check with your provider.
@gmgonzal - the Jawbone will probably be the best you can find for your enviroment. I only use it in my Toyota when driving. People can't tell that I'm on a cell phone. I had a NxZen which I liked for a while but this is better, IMO.
@agovinoveritas - indded, that's the biggest reason I upgraded to the 8525... no more missed calls when I'm using the internet (or receiving an email at the same time..)
It's the network. All operators that use Ericsson 3G equipment suffer from a bug in the Ericsson kit that prevents simultaneous data/voice. All Nokia equipment works fine. T-Mobile in the NL use Nokia and have no issues. KPN and Vodafone NL use Ericsson and have this issue. KPN are currently upgrading their Ericsson equipment to correct this issue (ETA end 2007). I do not know about Vodafone NL. It is safe to assume that in other countries these providers use the same kit so you should be fine with TMO, regardless of where you are.
Does this issue include that my telephoneconversation can be disconnected?
I had this problem with the WWE WM5 HTC rom using the Vodafone NL network. Now I have uograded to the Dopod WM6 ANZ version it's all fine...

Cannot select manual network?

Hi,
I've purchased an unlocked TP2 from Clove and it seems to be working well, except for one irritating problem. I cannot select a network operator manually. I have the tab available but everytime I click on it, it gives me a 'device.exe' error.
I have been experiencing a lot of missed calls and my network operator suggested that I change the automatic settings to manual. This obviously did not happen and my callers continue to get a 'customer not reachable message'.
I tried calling HTC (India) and they had no idea on how to resolve this issue, partly because the TP2 hasn't been released here as yet.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance
had the same missed calling problem, but it lies on the EDGE network where i always ON, change it to 3G and problem is gone. however, battery life decreased significantly
Unfortunately, I can't seem to find the 3G selection tab. I wonder if it's because the one I have is a Euro version? Will dig in deeper.
Thanks
nikanarani said:
Unfortunately, I can't seem to find the 3G selection tab. I wonder if it's because the one I have is a Euro version? Will dig in deeper.
Thanks
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Look under start\settings\phone\band change it to only use GSM and it will stop switching between bands, however data will be much slower on GSM than UMTS.
Cheers,
Beasty
Still no luck. Will keep on pegging at this.

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