Hey, Ive had the Htc Hero for a few weeks, and i was wondering if it was possible to make a hack or something so 3g will work on the us 3g bands. Or will we have to wait until they release a gsm unlocked north American Htc hero. Please get back soon.
You'll have to wait because the HTC Hero only has the 900/2100 bands for 3G while the required bands are 850/1900 in the United States. Sorry.
Im thinking this will show up on Roger's in Canada (uses AT&T Compatible 850/1900) before it actually shows up from AT&T.
Ebay.ca would be the way to go.
I believe it might show up on AT&T sooner than we all think
A version with AT&T 3G bands have already passed the FCC (as well as a version with EvDo bands for Sprint) so it looks like 2 North American carriers are poised for some Hero lovin'. Frankly, I'm ready for either an AT&T Hero or a Sprint Hero as I use both carriers.
Freak786 said:
You'll have to wait because the HTC Hero only has the 900/2100 bands for 3G while the required bands are 850/1900 in the United States. Sorry.
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according to the htc site, the hero is quad band. I'm able to get a hero from asia and was wondering the same thing.
http://www.htc.com/www/product/hero/specification.html
it should work with at&t and should not lock you into an expensive plan like the iphone if you get it unlocked.
agentkalaw said:
according to the htc site, the hero is quad band. I'm able to get a hero from asia and was wondering the same thing.
http://www.htc.com/www/product/hero/specification.html
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Quad band for GSM, not for HSDPA/WCDMA. Hero will currently work in the US, but Edge is the best you'll get.
Regards,
Dave
My friends there is a US 3G that should hit the streets soon. its called HTC HERO 130(US). the Euro version is Htc Hero 100.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1966&c=htc_hero_us_htc_hero_130
Enjoy !
daraj said:
My friends there is a US 3G that should hit the streets soon. its called HTC HERO 130(US). the Euro version is Htc Hero 100.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1966&c=htc_hero_us_htc_hero_130
Enjoy !
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Is this a fact?
Ironically, yes and no!
It is called Hero, but it isn't the same Hero as we have in Europe.
http://newsreleases.sprint.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=220644&p=imageGalleryCategoryDetail&t=MI&MICategoryId=16507&
Spec wise, it is much the same (bands not withstanding), but I far prefer the look of the original Hero.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Ironically, yes and no!
It is called Hero, but it isn't the same Hero as we have in Europe.
http://newsreleases.sprint.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=220644&p=imageGalleryCategoryDetail&t=MI&MICategoryId=16507&
Spec wise, it is much the same (bands not withstanding), but I far prefer the look of the original Hero.
Regards,
Dave
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Thats the Hero 200 not the Hero 130.
Its just a matter of time before we can use it on AT&T Network
Sorry guys, but the HTC Hero is exclusive to Sprint in the United States - http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/htc-hero-heading-to-sprint-october-11-for-179-99-no-chin/
Your best bet for a GSM Hero that works on AT&T's 3g is to wait for Rogers(GSM) in Canada to get it. Rogers has non google branded phones like the Magic(MyTouch 3g) and the Dream(G1). Thats just my thought and I could be wrong. But thats your last sign of hope for now. Plus Bell in Canada is getting the Palm Pre, so Rogers having a Hero is a nice fighting power to go against the Pre.
And lets put an end to this.... No European and Asian GSM HTC Hero will not have 3g in the US, only Edge!!! Theirs no hacks or anything that will work... We dont need more threads asking the same questions over and over.
One more thing came to mind. If AT&T and HTC take the SenseUI and put it onto a new android phone and called it something different.... Then you can have your Hero.. I dont see that happening this year. AT&T still has to release the Fortress(Touch Pro2) and Warhawk(Diamond2) still this year.
michd43 said:
Sorry guys, but the HTC Hero is exclusive to Sprint in the United States - http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/htc-hero-heading-to-sprint-october-11-for-179-99-no-chin/
Your best bet for a GSM Hero that works on AT&T's 3g is to wait for Rogers(GSM) in Canada to get it. Rogers has non google branded phones like the Magic(MyTouch 3g) and the Dream(G1). Thats just my thought and I could be wrong. But thats your last sign of hope for now. Plus Bell in Canada is getting the Palm Pre, so Rogers having a Hero is a nice fighting power to go against the Pre.
And lets put an end to this.... No European and Asian GSM HTC Hero will not have 3g in the US, only Edge!!! Theirs no hacks or anything that will work... We dont need more threads asking the same questions over and over.
One more thing came to mind. If AT&T and HTC take the SenseUI and put it onto a new android phone and called it something different.... Then you can have your Hero.. I dont see that happening this year. AT&T still has to release the Fortress(Touch Pro2) and Warhawk(Diamond2) still this year.
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No one is saying that ATT will get the HERO. We are saying that there will be 850Mhz WDMA version that works on ATT 3G network. It could be very much like you said Rogers Canada. again, there will be HERO 130 that supports ATT 3G network.
does anyone know if the sprint hero will be able to be rooted? i have heard that it will not be possible. please respond thank you.
850 3g ready!
http://www.importgsm.com/product.php?productid=660&cat=0&page=1
It seems some people are wrong... there is a US 3g version of the Hero, as HTC does have a US 3g version of the magic/ mytouch (sold by Rogers)...
sqc001 said:
http://www.importgsm.com/product.php?productid=660&cat=0&page=1
It seems some people are wrong... there is a US 3g version of the Hero, as HTC does have a US 3g version of the magic/ mytouch (sold by Rogers)...
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This has been covered in this forum many many times already. You don't have to dig up old threads and then add in some wrong information.
The AT&T 3G capable (850/1900) Hero is carried by Canadian carrier Telus, NOT Rogers. The phone is available from their website directly for CAD$499 + tax, without contract. They don't ship outside Canada, and people have reported that their local Telus stores do not sell them without opening a line. Some said that it could be purchased without contract at BestBuy (in Canada of course).
A friend (who lives in Canada) of mine helped me to get one. It is unbranded, but sim locked to Telus. Unlock code can be purchased on eBay for slightly over 20 bucks. Mine now works with AT&T 3G flawlessly. Note that the difference between this Hero and the European Hero, is in hardware. No ROM flashing will enable 850/1900 for 3G on the European Hero.
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http://www.importgsm.com/product.php?productid=660&cat=0&page=1
It seems some people are wrong... there is a US 3g version of the Hero, as HTC does have a US 3g version of the magic/ mytouch (sold by Rogers)...
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BTW, the support of the band 850 alone will not enable a phone to use AT&T 3G network. It requires BOTH 850 and 1900 together.
Yup i'm from toronto and under contract with Rogers. I bought a Telus HTC Hero and unlocked it and it works perfect with Rogers. I took a trip down to NYC and it works on AT&T 3G with no problems.
850/1900 VS. 900/2100 for 3G
I belive that hardware wise - they're not really different.
we already saw in the past hacks (for WM phones) to "enable" more bands.
I believe that HTC blocks part of the bands to complete certification faster (FCC, ETSI etc), and it can be tricked... once we'll have "US 3G" radio, we'll be able to play with it, and compare to "Europenian 3G" radio.
Tomer
tomerbn said:
I belive that hardware wise - they're not really different.
we already saw in the past hacks (for WM phones) to "enable" more bands.
I believe that HTC blocks part of the bands to complete certification faster (FCC, ETSI etc), and it can be tricked... once we'll have "US 3G" radio, we'll be able to play with it, and compare to "Europenian 3G" radio.
Tomer
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Sorry but this is not the case. Rogers version of Dream and Magic have been out for long time already. Have you heard of any case where people can get European or T-Mobile versions of these phones to work on AT&T 3G?
1. The European Hero does not share the same hardware part number with the Telus Hero. The former is HERO100 and the latter is HERO130. Note that this part number is independent of the ROM installed. Asian Heros (Hong Kong, Taiwan, China etc), all have different ROMs but they are all HERO100.
2. Your "certification theory" is wrong. This type of certification doesn't work that way. Adding another chip to support 2 more bands won't delay the certification by months. Days, at most, if at all.
3. Continued from 2. The HERO100 was never sent to FCC for certification. I have both phones with me right now, and there is no FCC certification logo on the HERO100 hardware or on the box, while the FCC logo is easily spotted on the HERO130.
4. People on the other thread had report dialing problems flashing HERO100 radio rom onto HERO130. The problem went away by flashing a newer HERO100 (but no one knows where it came from) radio rom, although people are still reporting SMS problem with this radio rom on HERO130. This radio has been reported to work perfectly (indeed, a lot reported better reception) on HERO100. If the HERO100 and the HERO130 share the same hardware, the difference should go away by flashing the same rom. The fact that, with the same rom the HERO130 supports 850/1900 for 3G while the HERO100 doesn't, clearly indicate the difference in hardware.
While it is not impossible for cell phone manufacturers modify radio rom to restrict bands that their phones support, this is very uncommon (Can you name those WinMo device that you mentioned?). On the other hand, almost every cell phone model has various verisons of hardware to support different bands in different countries. A chip that supports fewer bands costs less. When there are enough demand to move sales, it is much more profitable to produce a region specific hardware with a cheaper chip than to write code to restrict the functionality of a more expensive chip that supports bands that that region never needs.
Hey folks,
I still stick with my TyTn II but it’s time for a new deveice I think the Rhodium is a good upgrade but all these different models are confusing me:
Rhodium 100
Rhodium 300
Rhodium W (which has CDMA is that right?)
...
I ve been looking around and I have no idea which carrier provides which model. Also I want to know what is the difference between all these models.
For example the T-Mobile version looks very different to my but maybe the hardware specifications are the same?
Read this:
http://htcpedia.com/compare-4-touch-pro2-rhodium-phones/reviews/smartphone.html
Okay thanks this might be helpful aswell http://www.everythingdiamond.info/showthread.php?t=1941
But what is the differnece between both CPUs? What carrier has those CDMA versions cause i assume that they don't work in Germany!
ckain said:
Hey folks,
I still stick with my TyTn II but it’s time for a new deveice I think the Rhodium is a good upgrade but all these different models are confusing me:
Rhodium 100
Rhodium 300
Rhodium W (which has CDMA is that right?)
...
I ve been looking around and I have no idea which carrier provides which model. Also I want to know what is the difference between all these models.
For example the T-Mobile version looks very different to my but maybe the hardware specifications are the same?
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AT&T Tilt 2 T7377
Verizon Touch Pro2
Sprint Touch Pro 2
T-Mobile HTC Touch Pro 2 US / Wing II
T-Mobile MDA Vario V
HTC Touch Pro2 CDMA
HTC Touch Pro2 T7373
Have a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550431&highlight=rhodium
All models with pics and specs
Which version of HTC Touch Pro 2 is better ???
ATT Tilt 2
or
Tmobile's HTC Touch pro 2
For me, ATT Tilt 2 looks attractive in features...
What do you guys say ??
Who is your carrier? Or are you picking carriers too?
The ATT versions is the only one that will get you 3G on their network. But it also has a row of near useless symbols and punctuations on the top row of keys, instead of numbers that every other version of the TP2 has. You have to use the Fn key to type any numbers on the ATT version.
I would guess it would depend on what carrier you want. However as noted before if you want to use 3G in North America then you are left with the Tilt2. I dont mind the punctuation symbols as I only use numbers once in a while. My Kaiser had the embedded numbers and I did not find it awkward at all.
For me there was no choice. I want to use 3g in Canada so it was Tilt2. Just be thankful you can get one in the States from a carrier. Rogers here is still selling the Tytn for $200 with 3 year contract. I got rid of that phone 2 years ago when it was 2 years old.
indianinworld said:
Which version of HTC Touch Pro 2 is better ???
ATT Tilt 2
or
Tmobile's HTC Touch pro 2
For me, ATT Tilt 2 looks attractive in features...
What do you guys say ??
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It all depends on tastes but have a look here and see what members prefer most:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550431&highlight=rhodium
I presonally prefer the unbranded version (dont care really about 3G)
ATT Version has 3 3G bands while T'mobiles version has only two - out of which one is unique only to T Mobile.
Also
Built IN FM in ATT's version (Tilt 2).
But T Mobiles version by default have no FM Radio. But we can install and use it. I saw in my frineds mobile.
Though, it played, He had difficulties in scanning and playing the FM.
Greetings!
I have Hard SPLed my T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 and wanted to see if it was possible to get it to work on the Sprint network as I have no SIM card for my current sprint phone.
Does anyone know how to get my T-Mobile version working on a Sprint Network?
Not possible.
GSM phones (like the T-Mo TP2) will not work on CDMA networks (like Sprint)
Also, CDMA networks do not use SIM cards.
To make completely clear (maybe): The T-Mo branded TP2 lacks the radio hardware to connect to the Sprint or Verizon network.
GSM touch pro 2 lack cdma wont work. Even if it had CDMA its ESN is not in sprints data base thus wont work. Best to have a sprint touch pro 2 can use it on every network with no issue ( even hard of it being successfully activated on verzion go figure)
ajac said:
GSM touch pro 2 lack cdma wont work. Even if it had CDMA its ESN is not in sprints data base thus wont work. Best to have a sprint touch pro 2 can use it on every network with no issue ( even hard of it being successfully activated on verzion go figure)
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Sptint tightly guards their ESN list and does not add anything Sprint branded. Verizon will, not for a matter of policy but how nice you are to the store manager. So yes, it isn't unheard of.
devis said:
Sptint tightly guards their ESN list and does not add anything Sprint branded. Verizon will, not for a matter of policy but how nice you are to the store manager. So yes, it isn't unheard of.
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Are you saying that the T-Mobile hardware is capable of CDMA in addition to GSM? That's the first I've heard of it. I thought that HTC built different hardware versions.
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Are you saying that the T-Mobile hardware is capable of CDMA in addition to GSM? That's the first I've heard of it. I thought that HTC built different hardware versions.
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No...he was off-topic for your original post (he was responding to the post before his).
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Are you saying that the T-Mobile hardware is capable of CDMA in addition to GSM? That's the first I've heard of it. I thought that HTC built different hardware versions.
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Absolutely not.
What I am saying is that one would be able to get a Sprint branded phone, or anything CDMA, to work on Verizon. I was mostly responding to the second part of the post regarding non Verizon phones being activated on their network.
hi .. can i turn my t-mobile touch pro 2 in to cdma? the reason why im asking is because i wanna go to sprint and i read that the touch pro 2 has the hardware already for cdma,.. so can someboyd help me with this? thanks
No, like most Rhodium models, T-Mobile Rhodium is a GSM-only version featuring only GSM-compatible hardware. Only the devices sold on CDMA networks like Verizon and Sprint have GSM capabilities as well as CDMA.
nope, sadly you can not.
However, currently if you start a new 2 year contract with Sprint, you can get the Rhodium400 (Sprints version of the Touch Pro 2) for only $199.99.
Since (I assume) you already have one Rhodium, you are well aware that it is worth every penny of the 200 bucks.
yep i know.. if i go to sprint i would just get the evo 4g