Which one is better ??? - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Which version of HTC Touch Pro 2 is better ???
ATT Tilt 2
or
Tmobile's HTC Touch pro 2
For me, ATT Tilt 2 looks attractive in features...
What do you guys say ??

Who is your carrier? Or are you picking carriers too?
The ATT versions is the only one that will get you 3G on their network. But it also has a row of near useless symbols and punctuations on the top row of keys, instead of numbers that every other version of the TP2 has. You have to use the Fn key to type any numbers on the ATT version.

I would guess it would depend on what carrier you want. However as noted before if you want to use 3G in North America then you are left with the Tilt2. I dont mind the punctuation symbols as I only use numbers once in a while. My Kaiser had the embedded numbers and I did not find it awkward at all.
For me there was no choice. I want to use 3g in Canada so it was Tilt2. Just be thankful you can get one in the States from a carrier. Rogers here is still selling the Tytn for $200 with 3 year contract. I got rid of that phone 2 years ago when it was 2 years old.

indianinworld said:
Which version of HTC Touch Pro 2 is better ???
ATT Tilt 2
or
Tmobile's HTC Touch pro 2
For me, ATT Tilt 2 looks attractive in features...
What do you guys say ??
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It all depends on tastes but have a look here and see what members prefer most:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550431&highlight=rhodium
I presonally prefer the unbranded version (dont care really about 3G)

ATT Version has 3 3G bands while T'mobiles version has only two - out of which one is unique only to T Mobile.
Also
Built IN FM in ATT's version (Tilt 2).
But T Mobiles version by default have no FM Radio. But we can install and use it. I saw in my frineds mobile.
Though, it played, He had difficulties in scanning and playing the FM.

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Does HTC Touch Pro2 support 3G in USA?

Hello
I'd like to buy HTC Touch Pro2 (unlocked version), but I heard that it doesn't support 3G in USA? is that right? and why?
Will they release an unlocked version supports 3G in USA?
Does it support 3G in Asia and Europe?
What's exactly the differences between 2G and 3G?
P.S. I have an AT&T SIM card.
I know my questions are many but I'm so confused.
I'll be so appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
HNH992 said:
Hello
I'd like to buy HTC Touch Pro2 (unlocked version), but I heard that it doesn't support 3G in USA? is that right? and why?
Will they release an unlocked version supports 3G in USA?
Does it support 3G in Asia and Europe?
What's exactly the differences between 2G and 3G?
P.S. I have an AT&T SIM card.
I know my questions are many but I'm so confused.
I'll be so appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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If by "unlocked" you mean the original/intenational version, then no, it won't connect to 3G in the USA. The radio frequency of the hardware is wrong, and since it is hardware it can't be fixed by a software tweak. I think it's fine on 3G in Europe and maybe Asia (but I'm not an expert). There's lots of info out there if you look.
It will work fine on GSM (T-Mobile/ATT, for example) 2/2.5 bands in the USA and most/lots/all of Europe, Asia, etc.
To use ATT 3G you will need an ATT-branded TP2.
Basically, 3G is faster -- faster data transmission -- than 2G. Both terms refer to data speeds ranges, not specific technologies.
You should look at the Australian Telstra Touch Pro 2 T7381 it has been reported to work on ATT US and Rogers/FIDO Canada.
Why not wait one more week and it will be available in the USA from ATT. I give it then about 2 days before they start to show up on Ebay. These phones will be guaranteed to work on the North American frequencies.
That will be my strategy.
Thanks very much guys for replying
What's ATT-branded TP2?
What about HTC HD? does it have the same issue?
InRBigness said:
Why not wait one more week and it will be available in the USA from ATT. I give it then about 2 days before they start to show up on Ebay. These phones will be guaranteed to work on the North American frequencies.
That will be my strategy.
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Did ATT report that they will release HTC Touch Pro2? and how soon?
What about this one?
http://cgi.ebay.com/BRAND-NEW-UNLOC...ZViewItemQQptZCell_Phones?hash=item2ea5b059bc
I'm confused...Isn't ATT Tilt 2 the Touch Pro 2?
aragorn771 said:
I'm confused...Isn't ATT Tilt 2 the Touch Pro 2?
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Yes, it's.
If you want one that specifically supports 3G in the US, your choices are the AT&T Tilt 2, or the T-Mobile Touch Pro 2.
In the US, the 3G bands unfortunately are different than the rest of the world:
Europe/Asia 3G : 2100
USA (AT&T) 3G: 850/1900
USA (TMo) 3G: 1700/2100 -- TMO uses one for up and the other for down, so you can't use a Euro/Asian 3G phone and get full speed on USA TMO
But the nice thing is that the 2 US carrier phones also throw in 2100 on the TP2, so it'll work overseas as well.
I hope that helps.
pinoymutt said:
If you want one that specifically supports 3G in the US, your choices are the AT&T Tilt 2, or the T-Mobile Touch Pro 2.
In the US, the 3G bands unfortunately are different than the rest of the world:
Europe/Asia 3G : 2100
USA (AT&T) 3G: 850/1900
USA (TMo) 3G: 1700/2100 -- TMO uses one for up and the other for down, so you can't use a Euro/Asian 3G phone and get full speed on USA TMO
But the nice thing is that the 2 US carrier phones also throw in 2100 on the TP2, so it'll work overseas as well.
I hope that helps.
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Yo PinoyMutt, help a fellow Filipino out here
I have an Unlocked TMo Branded Touch Pro 2 and am currently using it on AT&T.
Are there any settings I need to input in order to get 3G? For whatever reason, I'm only getting EDGE (or at least that's the icon I receive on the winmo taskbar).
Thanks!
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Wow... did I just see the AT&T is on 850/1900? Wow... I think I may be selling my TP2 now...
pinoymutt said:
If you want one that specifically supports 3G in the US, your choices are the AT&T Tilt 2, or the T-Mobile Touch Pro 2.
In the US, the 3G bands unfortunately are different than the rest of the world:
Europe/Asia 3G : 2100
USA (AT&T) 3G: 850/1900
USA (TMo) 3G: 1700/2100 -- TMO uses one for up and the other for down, so you can't use a Euro/Asian 3G phone and get full speed on USA TMO
But the nice thing is that the 2 US carrier phones also throw in 2100 on the TP2, so it'll work overseas as well.
I hope that helps.
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so if i buy Tmobile TP2 or AT&T Tilt2 ... i can use it here in UK 3G? (video call)
Im sick of this iphone 3g!
raffstyle said:
so if i buy Tmobile TP2 or AT&T Tilt2 ... i can use it here in UK 3G? (video call)
Im sick of this iphone 3g!
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Video call partly works if you have the dialer that supports video call. I have a Tilt with video call dialer. When I went to Hong Kong I was able to use video call but only for receiving the video, not sending.
3GPocketPC4Me said:
Yo PinoyMutt, help a fellow Filipino out here
I have an Unlocked TMo Branded Touch Pro 2 and am currently using it on AT&T.
Are there any settings I need to input in order to get 3G? For whatever reason, I'm only getting EDGE (or at least that's the icon I receive on the winmo taskbar).
Thanks!
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Wow... did I just see the AT&T is on 850/1900? Wow... I think I may be selling my TP2 now...
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Unfortunately it's a hardware thing. The TMO ones specifically have hardware for 1700/2100 3G, so software tweaks won't do a thing on AT&T. Sorry!
raffstyle said:
so if i buy Tmobile TP2 or AT&T Tilt2 ... i can use it here in UK 3G? (video call)
Im sick of this iphone 3g!
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cproaudio said:
Video call partly works if you have the dialer that supports video call. I have a Tilt with video call dialer. When I went to Hong Kong I was able to use video call but only for receiving the video, not sending.
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From a speed/band perspective, I believe the US versions work fine on the UK 2100 bands. However, as mentioned before there are 2 other items:
(1) the dialer has to support it (which it looks like you can obtain) so that's ok on a software end; BUT
(2) The US versions of the phone don't have the front camera in the upper right hand corner. Since US carriers really haven't gotten around to promoting 3G and video calling, most US carrier phones don't have the front camera needed for video conferencing.
In all, that is a big requirement, I would recommend sticking with an unbranded or at least Euro-carrier unlocked branded TP2.
I see that HTC Touch Pro2 from AT&T is now available in eBay.
I see that HTC Touch Pro2 from AT&T is now available in eBay.
pinoymutt said:
From a speed/band perspective, I believe the US versions work fine on the UK 2100 bands. However, as mentioned before there are 2 other items:
(1) the dialer has to support it (which it looks like you can obtain) so that's ok on a software end; BUT
(2) The US versions of the phone don't have the front camera in the upper right hand corner. Since US carriers really haven't gotten around to promoting 3G and video calling, most US carrier phones don't have the front camera needed for video conferencing.
In all, that is a big requirement, I would recommend sticking with an unbranded or at least Euro-carrier unlocked branded TP2.
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THANKS for the reply... I didnt know that US TP2's dont have front camera. thats suck.. the only reason i want to get the tp2 from US is because i know someone can hook me up with the ETF for less. well im just gonna wait till april for my upgrade.. free phone always makes me happy!

All these differnt models keep stressing me

Hey folks,
I still stick with my TyTn II but it’s time for a new deveice I think the Rhodium is a good upgrade but all these different models are confusing me:
Rhodium 100
Rhodium 300
Rhodium W (which has CDMA is that right?)
...
I ve been looking around and I have no idea which carrier provides which model. Also I want to know what is the difference between all these models.
For example the T-Mobile version looks very different to my but maybe the hardware specifications are the same?
Read this:
http://htcpedia.com/compare-4-touch-pro2-rhodium-phones/reviews/smartphone.html
Okay thanks this might be helpful aswell http://www.everythingdiamond.info/showthread.php?t=1941
But what is the differnece between both CPUs? What carrier has those CDMA versions cause i assume that they don't work in Germany!
ckain said:
Hey folks,
I still stick with my TyTn II but it’s time for a new deveice I think the Rhodium is a good upgrade but all these different models are confusing me:
Rhodium 100
Rhodium 300
Rhodium W (which has CDMA is that right?)
...
I ve been looking around and I have no idea which carrier provides which model. Also I want to know what is the difference between all these models.
For example the T-Mobile version looks very different to my but maybe the hardware specifications are the same?
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AT&T Tilt 2 T7377
Verizon Touch Pro2
Sprint Touch Pro 2
T-Mobile HTC Touch Pro 2 US / Wing II
T-Mobile MDA Vario V
HTC Touch Pro2 CDMA
HTC Touch Pro2 T7373
Have a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550431&highlight=rhodium
All models with pics and specs

Buying HTC Touch Pro 2 from USA

Hi!
I'm considering buying a HTC TP2 from USA. I'm from Portugal...
1 - Does this device work on Europe?
2 - I saw 3 versions: Verizon, Sprint and T-Mobile wich one is the best?
3- Any diferences between this network branded devices and the HTC TP2 "OEM"?
Thanks
Im from Sweden and im considering doing this myself.
The operator versions have nicer looking keyboards and 3.5mm jack wich is a plus for more.
I dont know about the rest but the verizon version has cdma wich is something that only works in usa but also a sim slot for global roaming so i think it will work.
Theres lots of info on youtube about the different versions.
heres a comparisson between all the US versions.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=1931&id2=2016&id3=1792&id4=1829
Pay attention to the UMTS bands and compare that to what your local network supports.
They should all be able to do voice and EDGE data but not sure about HSDPA or 3G.
Also only the CDMA versions have the 3.5mm headset jack.
i believe the sprint version is the only CDMA model that is sim unlocked out of the box
the battery cover is ugly though

can i do this??

hi .. can i turn my t-mobile touch pro 2 in to cdma? the reason why im asking is because i wanna go to sprint and i read that the touch pro 2 has the hardware already for cdma,.. so can someboyd help me with this? thanks
No, like most Rhodium models, T-Mobile Rhodium is a GSM-only version featuring only GSM-compatible hardware. Only the devices sold on CDMA networks like Verizon and Sprint have GSM capabilities as well as CDMA.
nope, sadly you can not.
However, currently if you start a new 2 year contract with Sprint, you can get the Rhodium400 (Sprints version of the Touch Pro 2) for only $199.99.
Since (I assume) you already have one Rhodium, you are well aware that it is worth every penny of the 200 bucks.
yep i know.. if i go to sprint i would just get the evo 4g

[Q] AT&T Tilt2 on T-Mobile no 3G or HSDPA only Edge

Looked everywhere but have only found a few comments mainly regarding the AT&T network.
I have a AT&T branded Tilt-2 with TP2_Core_Cell_Evo_V3.1_(23127) and am on the T-mobile network.
In my area we have HSDPA and 3G, and my HTC 3G Dash shows those connections and runs from 583K up to 898K.
My Tilt2 on the other hand runs between 36K and a max of 156K (usually its under 50K)
I have tried everything and a ton of different radios and nothing seems to help.
I can't believe I am the only one, and I am sure its in the forum but I havent been able to find it and I have been looking for 2 days now. Does ANYONE know if there is a solution to this or am I stuck with a great looking phone and ROM that is slower than my old HTC Universal.
So I am starting this thread with the keywords in the title to help others find the info/help/cab/settings to fix this issue.
Any help would be appreciated..
Charles
Can I assume from the deafening silence that there is no solution and this would be why I couldn't find anything when I was searching all over the forums.
I thought AT&T and T-mobile use different bands for their 3G...haven't met anyone yet that can switch between these two and get the others' 3G service to work on the phone from the other...only Edge.
Yep, 3G are are different bands and AT&T's unique.
Most likely, hardware limit and T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 version is what you wanted.
However, for my Tilt 2, I use AT&T Prepaid Pay-as-you-go and get full 3G service and for $20 get 30 days of 100MB data at full speed. The Pay-as-you-go offers a $3.00 per day for unlimited calls during 24 hour period when you choose plan.
But the settings on the phone even show the 2100MHZ band and other stuff.. thought quad band phones were useable on all GSM networks. I guess that must mean the phones are but not the data portion of the phone.
So it would seem I have a really nice looking phone thats about as functional as a Windows 7 computer with a 56K dialup modem. Great...
Anyone on AT&T and have a T-mobile Touch Pro2 that they would like to swap with me.
when you talk about gsm (gprs/edge/2g), there are 4 bands and pretty much all devices can work on those. when it comes to umts (3g/hspa encap) thats where proprietary bands come in. word wide you will have the 900 and 2100 bands, att uses the 850 and 1900 bands, and tmobile uses 1700. what bands a phone is capable of running on depends on the baseband hardware in the phone. theres no way to change this without basically swapping the phone out for the carrier branded device.
cdma like sprint and verizon is another monster...
cdgoin said:
thought quad band phones were useable on all GSM networks.
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They do, but working and working optimally are 2 different things. You should always buy a phone to work on the network you use regularly, and be happy it works at all on others when you travel.
Live and learn..
I wonder if anyone out there in the community has a TouchPro2 that they got for use on AT&T and would like to swap..?
Charles
Can't get 3G Either
I'm using an unlocked HTC Touch Pro 2 (Euro Version) on T-Mobile and can only get Edge. The funny hting is that T-mobile is stumped on the issue even though they've seen that I'm using an HTC Touch Pro 2, not the branded T-Mo version. I just started looking into hardware differences tonight and will post whatever I find. I'm glad you started the thread.
T-Mobile HSPA bands
Just confirmed my suspicions.
The branded T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 operates on HSPA/WCDMA on the following bands: 1700/2100 MHz.
The HTC Touch Pro 2 (unbranded) operates on HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz.
So, if you want 3G, you need to stick with the T-Mobile branded phone.
Wow...I never thought I'd hear myself saying those words. *sigh* =(
I actually have a t-mobile branded HTC Touch Pro 2 I use on ATT, if you really wanna swap I'm totally down for that. My email is [email protected] shoot me a message and lets work out how to go about this.

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