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Is there anything I can do to make my T-Mobile Touch Pro2 usable on Verizon's network?
Root it? Unlock it? Anything?
No, the T-Mobile Touch Pro2 is exclusively GSM, and Verizon's network utilizes CDMA technology. You would need to buy a Verizon Touch Pro2 from Verizon to use Verizon's network.
LOL.
AT&T, T-Mobile = GSM
Verizon, Sprint, US Cellular = CDMA
You CANNOT use a GSM phone on a CDMA network and vice versa.
AT&T to T-Mobile??
Hello,
I just upgraded to HTC Evo and moved to Sprint couple of days ago. I am trying to sell my Touch Pro2 to my friend who has a T-Mobile.
My TP2 is currently running the EneryROM, so I am wondering what I could do to get this phone run on T-Mobile.
We inserted his SIM-Card but unfortunately the phone asked for a code because the network is blocked.
I think I can download the T-Mobile's official ROM for TP2, would that work by itself?
Any suggestions?
Thank you
niM
nimdivino said:
Hello,
I just upgraded to HTC Evo and moved to Sprint couple of days ago. I am trying to sell my Touch Pro2 to my friend who has a T-Mobile.
My TP2 is currently running the EneryROM, so I am wondering what I could do to get this phone run on T-Mobile.
We inserted his SIM-Card but unfortunately the phone asked for a code because the network is blocked.
I think I can download the T-Mobile's official ROM for TP2, would that work by itself?
Any suggestions?
Thank you
niM
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nope... wont work.. you cant just install a rom on the phone and have it work on another network... The phones themselves have to be compatible.. like was said up there.. gsm phones run on gsm networks.. cdma on cdma... now that said.. arent the touch pro 2's with verizon and sprint world phones so will run on both gsm and cdma?? Although I'm fairly certain even if it is possible to get it to work on the network you want you definatly wont get 3G....
You're better off just selling your phone to someone ON your network... craigslist or ebay can be your best friend... and he's better off buying one made for his network.
Just my two cents!
nimdivino said:
Hello,
I just upgraded to HTC Evo and moved to Sprint couple of days ago. I am trying to sell my Touch Pro2 to my friend who has a T-Mobile.
My TP2 is currently running the EneryROM, so I am wondering what I could do to get this phone run on T-Mobile.
We inserted his SIM-Card but unfortunately the phone asked for a code because the network is blocked.
I think I can download the T-Mobile's official ROM for TP2, would that work by itself?
Any suggestions?
Thank you
niM
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First of all, don't try to flash the T-Mobile ROM onto your Sprint Rhodium, since that's a great way to brick your device (the ROM is for a GSM device, flashing that to a CDMA/GSM device will brick it). Sprint allows the use of SIM cards for any carriers except US ones, so what you need to do is Security Unlock your Sprint TP2, then flash this special modified radio that will allow for the use of SIM cards from US carriers. Only then can you use your Sprint TP2 on T-Mobile US.
EDIT: Disregard this entire post, I misread it and this probably doesn't apply to the actual situation. My bad...
Aaron McCarthy said:
nope... wont work.. you cant just install a rom on the phone and have it work on another network... The phones themselves have to be compatible.. like was said up there.. gsm phones run on gsm networks.. cdma on cdma... now that said.. arent the touch pro 2's with verizon and sprint world phones so will run on both gsm and cdma?? Although I'm fairly certain even if it is possible to get it to work on the network you want you definatly wont get 3G....
You're better off just selling your phone to someone ON your network... craigslist or ebay can be your best friend... and he's better off buying one made for his network.
Just my two cents!
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AFAIK, the TP2s on Verizon are World Phones, but I really doubt that you could go and use a Verizon TP2 on a GSM carrier like AT&T or T-Mo. I would assume Verizon would lock the feature to do that, and that the GSM antenna is more then likely an underpowered or unable to really take advantage of GSM networks (3G/HSDPA, Edge, etc). I think they are only set on on Verizons end to do basic voice and basic features.
nimdivino said:
Hello,
I just upgraded to HTC Evo and moved to Sprint couple of days ago. I am trying to sell my Touch Pro2 to my friend who has a T-Mobile.
My TP2 is currently running the EneryROM, so I am wondering what I could do to get this phone run on T-Mobile.
We inserted his SIM-Card but unfortunately the phone asked for a code because the network is blocked.
I think I can download the T-Mobile's official ROM for TP2, would that work by itself?
Any suggestions?
Thank you
niM
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Apparently no one is READING your post. You want to take an AT&T Tilt2 and run it on T-Mobile. It will work with the following restrictions:
1. Your phone is network locked to AT&T. You have to either call AT&T and get an unlock code, or buy a code off ebay or one of the forums here. That way the phone will work on a different carrier network.
2. Having unlocked your phone, with a T-Mobile SIM card it will work - but only on the slower Edge speed, NOT 3G. AT&T uses a different 3G technology than T-Mobile.
I would suggest selling it as an AT&T locked phone on ebay.
Aaron McCarthy said:
Although I'm fairly certain even if it is possible to get it to work on the network you want you definatly wont get 3G....
You're better off just selling your phone to someone ON your network... craigslist or ebay can be your best friend... and he's better off buying one made for his network.
Just my two cents!
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stevedebi said:
Apparently no one is READING your post. You want to take an AT&T Tilt2 and run it on T-Mobile. It will work with the following restrictions:
1. Your phone is network locked to AT&T. You have to either call AT&T and get an unlock code, or buy a code off ebay or one of the forums here. That way the phone will work on a different carrier network.
2. Having unlocked your phone, with a T-Mobile SIM card it will work - but only on the slower Edge speed, NOT 3G. AT&T uses a different 3G technology than T-Mobile.
I would suggest selling it as an AT&T locked phone on ebay.
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Thanks Steve
Everyone,
I apologize for the confusion.. I re-read my post and I didn't mention that my Touch Pro 2 is an AT&T phone. (I was an AT&T customer and moved to Sprint). Sorry about that guys..
But thank you everyone especially stevedabi for reading between the lines.. LOL.. He won't buy it but my other co-worker is very interested. Need to sell this thing so I can offset my termination fee from AT&T. haha.
stevedebi said:
Apparently no one is READING your post. You want to take an AT&T Tilt2 and run it on T-Mobile. It will work with the following restrictions:
1. Your phone is network locked to AT&T. You have to either call AT&T and get an unlock code, or buy a code off ebay or one of the forums here. That way the phone will work on a different carrier network.
2. Having unlocked your phone, with a T-Mobile SIM card it will work - but only on the slower Edge speed, NOT 3G. AT&T uses a different 3G technology than T-Mobile.
I would suggest selling it as an AT&T locked phone on ebay.
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Why not just transfer the entire contract to him WITH the phone.. Then you don't have to pay a cancellation fee... Can they do that here? I know of a few people that did it up in Canada but have never heard of anyone in the states doing it. I'm sure it's got to be possible down here.
seansweat said:
Is there anything I can do to make my T-Mobile Touch Pro2 usable on Verizon's network?
Root it? Unlock it? Anything?
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Sell it to me....
Verizon is cdma...tmobile is gsm they aren't interchangeable. PM me if you are interested in selling.
I am going to switch to T-Mobile in 2 months so was wondering if it will work with T-Mobile's HSPA + Network.
AFAIK It won't, but the frequenceies are listed on both carrier's sites so you can have a look at that.
No.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...nt-4g-hspa-phone-will-not-be-covered-by-both/
Couldn't we just flash the t-mobile radio like with the t-mobile sgs2 and the skyrocket from at&t?
It should be possible. Check out the specs of the two: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4804&idPhone2=4803
This is EXACTLY the same as Tmobile S2 and ATT S2 LTE: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4129&idPhone2=4303
Some awesome dev needs to do some radio hacking to make the two phones interchangeable as they did for the S2/S2 LTE.
pvc_ said:
No.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...nt-4g-hspa-phone-will-not-be-covered-by-both/
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that article is over a year old. there are many devices that work on both carriers via 4g. looking at the frequencies on att version it should work with a radio flash.
There's hope then
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57460125-94/t-mobiles-pricier-samsung-galaxy-s3-will-not-get-lte/
same hardware in all US S3's so theoretically even a sprint or verizon one can be flashed if its just going to be software limitations
tspx23 said:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57460125-94/t-mobiles-pricier-samsung-galaxy-s3-will-not-get-lte/
same hardware in all US S3's so theoretically even a sprint or verizon one can be flashed if its just going to be software limitations
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The CDMA and TDMA versions are different and not compatible. A sprint or Verizon model will not work on GSM networks due to the different protocols used. AFAIK no phone is universally portable amongst US carriers.
Verizon/Sprint/US Cellular phones are 100% different in terms of radio hardware and software.
It is possible the T-Mobile/AT&T ones will likely work together, but why? Also something to consider is the AT&T Note on T-Mobile gets HORRIBLE battery life.
malaeum said:
The CDMA and TDMA versions are different and not compatible. A sprint or Verizon model will not work on GSM networks due to the different protocols used. AFAIK no phone is universally portable amongst US carriers.
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You sure about this? Verizon model will have a sim card and has GSM support. Verizon will probably block T-Mobile and ATT with all of their GSM/devices.
tspx23 said:
You sure about this? Verizon model will have a sim card and has GSM support. Verizon will probably block T-Mobile and ATT with all of their GSM/devices.
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The SIM card is for LTE. The only way to get 3G on a CDMA device would be through CDMA.
joshnichols189 said:
The SIM card is for LTE. The only way to get 3G on a CDMA device would be through CDMA.
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Not exactly true... After a "hack" to my VZW Moto Bionic and dropping in an ATT sim from a demo Galaxy Note, we got working H+ on the Bionic.
Even after hack, the Bionic doesn't appear to support T-Mobile's 1700mhz so I get EDGE only when I use the T-Mo SIM out of my Galaxy S2.
But I wont have a Verizon Galaxy S3 to play with to see how that works.
KidJoe said:
Not exactly true... After a "hack" to my VZW Moto Bionic and dropping in an ATT sim from a demo Galaxy Note, we got working H+ on the Bionic.
Even after hack, the Bionic doesn't appear to support T-Mobile's 1700mhz so I get EDGE only when I use the T-Mo SIM out of my Galaxy S2.
But I wont have a Verizon Galaxy S3 to play with to see how that works.
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Interesting, have not heard of that one but I will take your word for it. Either way, most phones do not have AWS bands for T-Mobile unless they are T-Mobile phones.
Assuming the Verizon version has GSM 3G radios in it (what they call a "Global" phone) I don't see why even it could be flashed if someone could get the radio hacked.
For example, my current phone, the Droid 2 Global, normally runs on Verizon's CMDA bands. Being a global phone, it has GSM radios in it which can be activated if you get an unlock code from Verizon (not difficult).
Here's the catch- the baseband locks the phone so that it does not work on AT&T and T-Mobile's frequency bands! However, some clever hackers at TeamBlackHat were able to hack the baseband to allow it to work on US carriers as well.
tl;dr if the CDMA versions have GSM radios it should be feasible to make them work on AT&T and T-Mobile.
ExodusC said:
Assuming the Verizon version has GSM 3G radios in it (what they call a "Global" phone) I don't see why even it could be flashed if someone could get the radio hacked.
For example, my current phone, the Droid 2 Global, normally runs on Verizon's CMDA bands. Being a global phone, it has GSM radios in it which can be activated if you get an unlock code from Verizon (not difficult).
Here's the catch- the baseband locks the phone so that it does not work on AT&T and T-Mobile's frequency bands! However, some clever hackers at TeamBlackHat were able to hack the baseband to allow it to work on US carriers as well.
tl;dr if the CDMA versions have GSM radios it should be feasible to make them work on AT&T and T-Mobile.
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So basically, all world phones can literally be made into world phones? Nice!
SaHiLzZ said:
It should be possible. Check out the specs of the two: gsmarena /compare.php3?idPhone1=4804&idPhone2=4803
This is EXACTLY the same as Tmobile S2 and ATT S2 LTE: gsmarena /compare.php3?idPhone1=4129&idPhone2=4303
Some awesome dev needs to do some radio hacking to make the two phones interchangeable as they did for the S2/S2 LTE.
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You raise a really good point.
joshnichols189 said:
Verizon/Sprint/US Cellular phones are 100% different in terms of radio hardware and software.
It is possible the T-Mobile/AT&T ones will likely work together, but why? Also something to consider is the AT&T Note on T-Mobile gets HORRIBLE battery life.
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Does the S2 and S2 LTE (skyrocket) succumb to bad battery life like the note does when their networks are interchanged?
Hi,
I just purchased this phone off ebay. The listing told me that it was a Sprint phone with a bad ESN that had been flashed to Vzw prepaid.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200904023202?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Well I got the phone and it is a t-mobile version and not Sprint!!
I dont even know if the phone has been flashed through VZW or not. everything ive read says that the tmobile version can be unlocked, but How can I tell if this phone is on verizon or not? will I also need a sim card?
Im scared I just purchased a giant wifi only paper weight :crying:
thanks so much guys n gals.
Chris
Email the seller maybe he sent the wrong phone .. u can always file a claim so your not totally screwed
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^ +1. Also, if the seller doesn't wanna work out the issue with you, you can file a buyer's protection claim for item not as described. After all, the add said it was a sprint note 2 not a tmobile one.
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Verizon/Sprint = CDMA = NO SIM SLOT... if you have a SIM slot.. good luck trying to get it on Verizon. Someone correct me if i am wrong. Contact the seller!!!
MikeYuse0406 said:
^ +1. Also, if the seller doesn't wanna work out the issue with you, you can file a buyer's protection claim for item not as described. After all, the add said it was a sprint note 2 not a tmobile one.
Sent from my customized phablet
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So IS there any hope for me flashing this to Verizon prepaid? I have emailed seller but no response yet. I do like the phone though. He may have sent the wrong one.
chris111690 said:
So IS there any hope for me flashing this to Verizon prepaid? I have emailed seller but no response yet. I do like the phone though. He may have sent the wrong one.
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The tmobile version is GSM whereas sprint/Verizon are CDMA. These are 2 totally different technologies. As far as I am concerned, there is no way to run a gsm device on the cdma network or viceversa. They use different frequencies, etc.
However, I may be wrong so let's wait to see if some with a better knowledge supports my claim.
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MikeYuse0406 said:
The tmobile version is GSM whereas sprint/Verizon are CDMA. These are 2 totally different technologies. As far as I am concerned, there is no way to run a gsm device on the cdma network or viceversa. They use different frequencies, etc.
However, I may be wrong so let's wait to see if some with a better knowledge supports my claim.
Sent from my customized phablet
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My cousin(in his youthful stupidity) is with Verizon, he has a Motorola Droid(more stupidity) and for some strange reason it has a sim slot, and it is populated with a Verizon sim. I'm not sure why, maybe they do that so they can use phones that aren't normally CDMA? But then they'd need towers and spectrum for GSM. Who knows.
I actually sold an ATT S3, unlocked to someone on ebay and they tried to use it on vzw prepaid. Of course my ad said clearly it was ATT, and unlocked. I didn't think about needing to state it would NOT work on vzw. Your situation is a bit different however.
MikeYuse0406 said:
The tmobile version is GSM whereas sprint/Verizon are CDMA. These are 2 totally different technologies. As far as I am concerned, there is no way to run a gsm device on the cdma network or viceversa. They use different frequencies, etc.
However, I may be wrong so let's wait to see if some with a better knowledge supports my claim.
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I don't know about sprint but verizon note 2 does have sim card slot for the sim. It came unlocked. It does support gsm. i tried it on my tmobile and it worked.
check this thread for more info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2044449&highlight=tmobile
chris111690 said:
Hi,
I just purchased this phone off ebay. The listing told me that it was a Sprint phone with a bad ESN that had been flashed to Vzw prepaid.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200904023202?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Well I got the phone and it is a t-mobile version and not Sprint!!
I dont even know if the phone has been flashed through VZW or not. everything ive read says that the tmobile version can be unlocked, but How can I tell if this phone is on verizon or not? will I also need a sim card?
Im scared I just purchased a giant wifi only paper weight :crying:
thanks so much guys n gals.
Chris
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just file a complaint with Ebay since he sent you the item you received is not a described in the add.. ebay will open up a claim ticket...
DataDork said:
Verizon/Sprint = CDMA = NO SIM SLOT... if you have a SIM slot.. good luck trying to get it on Verizon. Someone correct me if i am wrong. Contact the seller!!!
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Verizon/Sprint phones are CDMA but the new 4g LTE phones from them are using a sim card slot for the 4g LTE network ... (correct me if im wrong obviously)
on side note: wonder if anyone knows how to flash the phone to verizon unleased unlimited plan $50 unlimited everything ?
Yes, the New 4g LTE phones from Verizon and Sprint have SIM Slot, and can be unlocked to use with other Carriers just like just At&t and Tmobile phones. so Sprint/Verizon phones have both GSM and CDMA chip.
Why would you buy a bad ESN phone for $500?? BAD ESN means LOST or STOLEN Phone.
You buy a stolen phone from eBay and you're surprised you didn't get what you paid for?
Stupidity.
Well being the genius I am failed to open the phone and see the huge sprint logo there. :silly:
It seems he is just running a tmobile Jedi rom and i just looked up the device id from the phones properties.
My fault guys. But not that it is a sprint phone that has been flashed to vzw prepaid. How do I activate? the MEID number that is displayed after the #*06# does not work on the vzw site or over the phone.
How to get a verizon sim card to work on a at&t samsung Galaxy s3.
Can I make ATT Samsung Galaxy S3 work on a verizon sim card?
The phone is rooted and unlocked.
SAMSUNG-SGH-I747
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getyasome said:
How to get a verizon sim card to work on a at&t samsung Galaxy s3.
Can I make ATT Samsung Galaxy S3 work on a verizon sim card?
The phone is rooted and unlocked.
SAMSUNG-SGH-I747
Android version 4.1.2
Baseband version 1747ucdmg2
build # Supreme Deadly Venom v7.1.0
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Unfortunately, can't be done as Verizon uses CDMA and ATT uses GSM. Means radios are completely different.
getyasome said:
How to get a verizon sim card to work on a at&t samsung Galaxy s3.
Can I make ATT Samsung Galaxy S3 work on a verizon sim card?
The phone is rooted and unlocked.
SAMSUNG-SGH-I747
Android version 4.1.2
Baseband version 1747ucdmg2
build # Supreme Deadly Venom v7.1.0
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impossible until the carriers and technology says so, sorry CDMA+GSM dont mix unless they say so
getyasome said:
How to get a verizon sim card to work on a at&t samsung Galaxy s3.
Can I make ATT Samsung Galaxy S3 work on a verizon sim card?
The phone is rooted and unlocked.
SAMSUNG-SGH-I747
Android version 4.1.2
Baseband version 1747ucdmg2
build # Supreme Deadly Venom v7.1.0
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What all have u tried so far? I have a friend with a verizon droid dna running a straight talk (at&t) sim, and everything works, calls, text, mms, and internet...
DMF1977 said:
What all have u tried so far? I have a friend with a verizon droid dna running a straight talk (at&t) sim, and everything works, calls, text, mms, and internet...
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As stated above, Verizon and att use two entirely different networks. The radio hardware is different. Unless the droid dna is a gsm phone that should not be possible.
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Greycloak42 said:
As stated above, Verizon and att use two entirely different networks. The radio hardware is different. Unless the droid dna is a gsm phone that should not be possible.
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I'm fully aware that they are entirely different networks, but it works. Yes, the verizon dna is cdma, but it also takes a sim card, im assuming because of the 4g lte...
DMF1977 said:
I'm fully aware that they are entirely different networks, but it works. Yes, the verizon dna is cdma, but it also takes a sim card, im assuming because of the 4g lte...
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That phone is also GSM capable. At that point it's all a matter of the APN settings. It can not be done with the S3 on any carrier (swapping from CDMA to GSM)
getyasome said:
How to get a verizon sim card to work on a at&t samsung Galaxy s3.
Can I make ATT Samsung Galaxy S3 work on a verizon sim card?
The phone is rooted and unlocked.
SAMSUNG-SGH-I747
Android version 4.1.2
Baseband version 1747ucdmg2
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I think you can get the Verizon S3 to work on AT&T (calls/text/edge data). I know you can do that on T-Mobile. But you won't be able to get the AT&T S3 to work on Verizon for two reasons;
1) The radio would need to be hacked to enable the CDMA radio, and the information needed to hack the radio is not available. The US variants all received the same radio chip, just some of the frequencies are turned off. For instance, the AT&T S3 wasn't able to get the t-mobile AWS band working until the guy working for t-mobile released some radio files. The AT&T/T-Mo S3s have the CDMA radio, but it's not enabled
2) Verizon won't allow the phone on the network, as the IMEI is not registered on their network. This is probably the most important reason. You would need to spoof the IMEI from another verizon phone, which is not something that can be discussed here.
You are better off switching with someone who has a Verizon S3, that wants an AT&T S3.
tokuzumi said:
I think you can get the Verizon S3 to work on AT&T (calls/text/edge data). I know you can do that on T-Mobile. But you won't be able to get the AT&T S3 to work on Verizon for two reasons;
1) The radio would need to be hacked to enable the CDMA radio, and the information needed to hack the radio is not available. The US variants all received the same radio chip, just some of the frequencies are turned off. For instance, the AT&T S3 wasn't able to get the t-mobile AWS band working until the guy working for t-mobile released some radio files. The AT&T/T-Mo S3s have the CDMA radio, but it's not enabled
2) Verizon won't allow the phone on the network, as the IMEI is not registered on their network. This is probably the most important reason. You would need to spoof the IMEI from another verizon phone, which is not something that can be discussed here.
You are better off switching with someone who has a Verizon S3, that wants an AT&T S3.
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It will work with T-Mobile because it's a GSM network. The radio can't be hacked. It's a limitation of the hardware itself. It's 2 completely different pieces of hardware.
The sim card on Verizon phones is ONLY used to access Verizon's LTE, without that simcard you'd have regular 4G only on a Verizon phone. That sim card/or phones acts in no way possible as GSM accessible.
So no it will NEVER work regardless of what you do.
And don't fall for ads on the internet about any Verizon,Sprint, or any CDMA phone to work on GSM networks.
jayRokk said:
The sim card on Verizon phones is ONLY used to access Verizon's LTE, without that simcard you'd have regular 4G only on a Verizon phone. That sim card/or phones acts in no way possible as GSM accessible.
So no it will NEVER work regardless of what you do.
And don't fall for ads on the internet about any Verizon,Sprint, or any CDMA phone to work on GSM networks.
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This is not entirely true for all Verizon phones. The DNA, S4, Note 2, LG G2 (among others) are sim-unlocked out of the box, and will work with AT&T/T-Mobile (the note 2 requires some hacking in order to add the APN settings). Also, as I recall, if I took the sim card out of my GNex and DNA, I did not have service. It would only allow for emergency calls. No talk/text/2G/3G.
For the Galaxy Nexus, the phone is 100% guaranteed to not work on any GSM network.
tokuzumi said:
This is not entirely true for all Verizon phones. The DNA, S4, Note 2, LG G2 (among others) are sim-unlocked out of the box, and will work with AT&T/T-Mobile (the note 2 requires some hacking in order to add the APN settings). Also, as I recall, if I took the sim card out of my GNex and DNA, I did not have service. It would only allow for emergency calls. No talk/text/2G/3G.
For the Galaxy Nexus, the phone is 100% guaranteed to not work on any GSM network.
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Read the first sentence
"Only to get Verizon's LTE"
Unlocked phones work "globally"
Which means you'd get Voice and EDGE/3G at the most from other GSM networks, given you've provided the correct APNs. Locked phones, which carry that sim card for Verizon's LTE ONLY. Either way only a few phones will work. The rest are useless.
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Agent said:
It will work with T-Mobile because it's a GSM network. The radio can't be hacked. It's a limitation of the hardware itself. It's 2 completely different pieces of hardware.
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No. They use the same hardware. Msm8960. It should support GSM CDMA WCDMA LTE and Td-scdma. Almost all the network. It's mostly because of the lock of the radio/nv.
Remember, the op is asking if he can use an at&t galaxy s3 on Verizon. It's not going to work.
IT WORKS
tokuzumi said:
I think you can get the Verizon S3 to work on AT&T (calls/text/edge data). I know you can do that on T-Mobile. But you won't be able to get the AT&T S3 to work on Verizon for two reasons;
1) The radio would need to be hacked to enable the CDMA radio, and the information needed to hack the radio is not available. The US variants all received the same radio chip, just some of the frequencies are turned off. For instance, the AT&T S3 wasn't able to get the t-mobile AWS band working until the guy working for t-mobile released some radio files. The AT&T/T-Mo S3s have the CDMA radio, but it's not enabled
2) Verizon won't allow the phone on the network, as the IMEI is not registered on their network. This is probably the most important reason. You would need to spoof the IMEI from another verizon phone, which is not something that can be discussed here.
You are better off switching with someone who has a Verizon S3, that wants an AT&T S3.
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i can verify that i an running AT&T straight talk service on my sch-i535 (Verizon Galaxy s3)
I have had success using a Verizon sg3 mother board on att's network although I was only able to get 2g. What I did was rooted phone, ran region unlock app, next I let the phone sit for a day, then a did a factory reset from the phones menu not custom recovery. Then when going through the set up wizard it prompted me to insert sim card then it said it was not an approved sim and gave options to continue or finish, selected finish, said complete and about 3-5 mins after booting up I got signal bars and phone was working. Although the hardware used are different these are dual band phones.
Never give up keep trying
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Has anyone accomplished this? Running a Verizon sim in a unlocked Tmobile S4?
i am curious about this as well. i dont think the lte bands are the same though
Verizon is LTE 18. Not worried about that too much. I believe 3g will be all it will get
While a Verizon S4 will work with T-Mobile, I don't think a Verizon S4 will work with T-Mobile. Unless you can somehow enable CDMA radios, which technically don't exist in the gsm variants.
serio22 said:
While a Verizon S4 will work with T-Mobile, I don't think a Verizon S4 will work with T-Mobile. Unless you can somehow enable CDMA radios, which technically don't exist in the gsm variants.
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All S4's are actually gsm, including Sprint and Verizon. Both are unlock able and able to use on other carriers, so CDMA isn't really necessary
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All S4's are actually gsm, including Sprint and Verizon. Both are unlock able and able to use on other carriers, so CDMA isn't really necessary
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Yes I know many Sprint and Verizon smartphones are world phones, but Verizon still uses CDMA. So wouldn't you will still need a CDMA capable device if you plan to use it with Verizon? If it was the other way around, that's a different story
serio22 said:
Yes I know many Sprint and Verizon smartphones are world phones, but Verizon still uses CDMA. So wouldn't you will still need a CDMA capable device if you plan to use it with Verizon? If it was the other way around, that's a different story
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Yeah but that's why I was telling you.... if a Verizon S4 is gsm and not CDMA, why wouldn't a gsm work on Verizon if the same phone is gsm?
It's probably completely possible. Device wise.... the big problem would be getting Verizon to allow it on the network if it did
Well, i can't unlock the damn thing anyways. Tried 3 times to avail.
Just as soon as I Odin back the NH7 modem i loose the unlock. Very weird.
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Yeah but that's why I was telling you.... if a Verizon S4 is gsm and not CDMA, why wouldn't a gsm work on Verizon if the same phone is gsm?
It's probably completely possible. Device wise.... the big problem would be getting Verizon to allow it on the network if it did
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that's because it has both gsm and CDMA radios, while T-Mobile's does not. At least as far as we know. I think the gsm portion is there for when you travel for edge and HSPA connectivity and of course also for the use of LTE. If you insert a gsm sim card into a Verizon 'global' gsm/CDMA device, it will display a message "switching to Global mode," enabling full gsm mode. You still need a CDMA capable phone for activation on their network AFAIK.
The Sickness said:
Well, i can't unlock the damn thing anyways. Tried 3 times to avail.
Just as soon as I Odin back the NH7 modem i loose the unlock. Very weird.
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I would give it a shot but don't have a different sim card to test
Don't sweat it. Im keeping it.
I tried my unlocked S4 with my girlfriend's Verizon SIM from her S5 and couldn't get it to connect to anything. I tried every different network mode I had available and couldn't get it to see any sort of a signal. I'm pretty sure I also tried to manually search for a network and saw Verizon as an option, but didn't end up getting anything out of it.
Punkamonk said:
I tried my unlocked S4 with my girlfriend's Verizon SIM from her S5 and couldn't get it to connect to anything. I tried every different network mode I had available and couldn't get it to see any sort of a signal. I'm pretty sure I also tried to manually search for a network and saw Verizon as an option, but didn't end up getting anything out of it.
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It probably picked up the LTE signal, since it is gsm