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HTC Touch Pro 2 = Fail?

I think so and I will tell you why. I have been following this phone since it was announced long ago. I to have been a proud HTC device owner but these days I am not so proud anymore.
I am a Windows Mobile fan. Currently I am using my old trusty or not so trusty these days HTC Kaiser/TYTN2. I became a big fan of the tilt feature. I am a tmobile user so back when the Kaiser was released not having 3g bands was not an issue because tmobile did not have 3g. I bought the Euro version and paid top dollar.
Since then its been hacked and modded to reduce glitches and increase speed but lets face it. The keyboard is worn and almost all keys require a super hard press due to wear and tear. Also the screen is tiny by todays standards. I didnt buy the Euro version of the TP2 because I live in the US and 3g is now an issue. So I waited for the tmobile release now confirmed for aug 12th. Right around the corner!
Those of you who didn't wait seem to be reporting endless bugs and glitches not to mention hardware problems. It is driving me nuts to the point that I am shying away from the TP2 hype. I have been following all the TP2 threads here and its bads news after bad news. Very different from when you all 1st got it.
Please someone speak some positive stuff otherwise I may end up holding onto my Kaiser for another year. Final rant.....the specs could be better. Damn Iphoney has an 800mhz processor and HTC just holds back!

I absolutely love it. I have not one problem with it, except for the battery door. I had to modify it a little but know its fine. Out of the 4 HTC phones I have owned, I think this is the best by far. Good luck with your findings.

Although I won't argue with you, the touch pro2 is a great phone for what it's intended for which is business users. It is lacking a bit hardware wise for multimedia and gaming, since it pretty much has the same processor and memory as its predecessor. It is for this reason that I am still trying to decide between the TP2 and samsung omnia II since it has the faster processor and beautiful AMOLED screen. So if you are shying away from the TP2 I would recommend the omnia II or the omnia pro (has hardware keyboard). Even though it annoyingly lacks a built in stylus (but thats just me).

The Great Malaki said:
The keyboard is worn and almost all keys require a super hard press due to wear and tear.
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Its probably not wear and tear. Its the same thing that happens with TV remotes. Over time, the oils from your fingers seep through the buttons and interfere with the contacts. If you were to take the keyboard appart and wipe down the contacts, no garauntee, but I bet it would work like new.

i think most of the problems people have (including myself) on their TP2 is 3rd party softwares imcompatable to the new UI on TP2. hope HTC will offer an update for TP2 sooner than September.
if you turn away from it for Samsung OmniaHD, make sure buy it from a local Samsung stores or from your mobile operator. i've been in a deep problem trying to get my Omnia i900 fixed. i bought my i900 from an idiot ebay seller named Cutrategoods70. when my i900 bricked from a firmware update, i tried to contact that idiot, never get a reply. i emailed SS service center in UK (coz SS US & Canada never heard of this model), thay told me to send to them. 5 weeks later they sent it back & said they not support "foreign unit". emailed SS Singapore & Malaysia, they said the same thing. Becareful when you buy a Samsung on ebay or internet stores
good luck for you finding the right device

I think is totally normal to see so many posts about defects / bugs. Usually, peoples who post threads here need help with something. If everyone posted a thread about "Everything's fine with my TP2" when their TP2 is working flawlessly ... well... it would be pretty useless to do that.
Think about it : it's normal to find broken cars in a car dealer's garage. It doesn't mean the car model is crap.

I second that. You will normally see threads asking how to improve things or how to fix things.
Most of the posts here are when people need something, find something that they think could help others, and that's about it. The closest thing you can find to general chat would be the speculation on future support or release dates.
In forums for my last phone you saw threads on how to fix things, and for new software made for it (as a closed platform it had to be hacked and forums where the few places you could get software for the OS, unlike Winmo).
If you'll notice many of the threads are duplicates, and some of the complaints are somewhat invalid as the phone was never designed to do X thing (a prime example are the complaints that the Euro version doesn't support North American 3G bands.
Every phone will have defects and problems unless it's a very well built dumb phone. The question is, just how many people are having said problems, and out of how many satisfied customers without those problems?
Like vakbrain said, you're not going to find a new thread singing the praises of the phone from every person who is happy with it. It'd be extremely tedious, boring, and space consuming.

I love my TP2. I bought it SIM-free so it was quite an investment of cash, but I think it was worth every penny. It has the odd glitch here and there, but then so does any piece of complex modern equipment. I'd fully recommend it without any hesitation at all.

I think my TP2 is great! Ive alerady installed some handy apps to it. Havent had any issues with the device itself really, more like things relating to it. Finding a Good belt clip case for it seems to be a challenge, and Finnic isnt finished yet, so it runs like crap. I would have liked to have a 3.5mm jack on it, but im dealing with the adapter. I do wish TouchFlo had its own Slide to Unlock on it, but meh. i have s2u2 for the moment.

Lyian said:
I think my TP2 is great! Ive alerady installed some handy apps to it. Havent had any issues with the device itself really, more like things relating to it. Finding a Good belt clip case for it seems to be a challenge, and Finnic isnt finished yet, so it runs like crap. I would have liked to have a 3.5mm jack on it, but im dealing with the adapter. I do wish TouchFlo had its own Slide to Unlock on it, but meh. i have s2u2 for the moment.
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hi Lyian, could you please tell me does s2u2 work ok on yours?
i installed the WQVGA v2.04, it doesn't look right to me since everything so small & sticking together. VGA version look normal on my screen. other thing is when i set On Battery Power>Blank Screen on Talk, it works once, try the 2nd time the screen off then back on again. any idea to config it right?
thanks

I am using S2U2 on mine and it works fine. I am using the VGA version and it's flawless.
I love my Pro2!! no problems at all!!

One big difference
Hi all
Thought I'd add a comment.
The one big difference between my Touch Pro2 and every other HTC phone is that the TP2 works extremely well out of the box and while some people are annoyed with all the bundled software (i.e. M3D and it's incalculable extensions) I actually think that this makes is a better device and would rather have more of this than less.
The point is: It does everything I want it to almost out of the box. This has not been the case with any other HTC device I have owned/used.
Best wishes
andrew-in-woking

vakbrain said:
I think is totally normal to see so many posts about defects / bugs. Usually, peoples who post threads here need help with something. If everyone posted a thread about "Everything's fine with my TP2" when their TP2 is working flawlessly ... well... it would be pretty useless to do that.
Think about it : it's normal to find broken cars in a car dealer's garage. It doesn't mean the car model is crap.
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Thank you. I'm waiting for it to come out (couple weeks near me). Can't wait, watched plenty of unboxing videos and walkthroughs. *fist pump* Im ready lol.

sakshaug007 said:
Although I won't argue with you, the touch pro2 is a great phone for what it's intended for which is business users. It is lacking a bit hardware wise for multimedia and gaming, since it pretty much has the same processor and memory as its predecessor. It is for this reason that I am still trying to decide between the TP2 and samsung omnia II since it has the faster processor and beautiful AMOLED screen. So if you are shying away from the TP2 I would recommend the omnia II or the omnia pro (has hardware keyboard). Even though it annoyingly lacks a built in stylus (but thats just me).
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I wouldn't recommend the OMNIA II or PRO because they have only 137MB of RAM. That's hardly enough to run any software. I was really looking forward to the new OMNIA phones but it's a big disappointment with the lack of ram. I do admit other specs on the phone looks great but without the right amount of ram, the phone is very limited.

No Fail
Had my TP2 for just over a week now, so still getting used to it but I've had absolutely NO issues with it, so far it has surpassed my expectations. It seems fast, responsive and I like the functionality.
The guys who point out that people write in to forums with problems are absolutely correct. People don't just write in to say "I love it" most people here seem to be advanced users, happy to tweak and hack their phones to get that extra 10% out of them.
I'm a business user, I don't anticipate playing many games (that's what the DS/PSP etc. are for) and as a business user I think this phone rocks!
My anti-fail 2c!

No problems at all with mine. Very impressed, kicks my TP's ass in every department except LED flash.
Brilliant phone, top marks to TF3d too.

Well, I haven't gotten a TP2 yet - still waiting for AT&T to release theirs - in the meantime I'm living with my 2.5 year old Virgin Mobile USA prepaid phone, but ready to make the leap to a contract.
What I can say is that the phenomenon where everyone writes in to a forum (especially a big one like XDA) about their issues makes the problems seem much worse than they actually are. For every person posting here about a problem there are at least 2 more that have had NO problem and wouldn't even think of coming to an online forum to solve issues with their phone.
For example, I bought an Asus EeePC last fall, and went to the premier EeePC forum at the time to see what others were saying - it sounded depressing too! Everyone with issues. Then I realized that A) people wouldn't go to a forum to solve a problem if they didn't love the device and wanted to keep it, they'd just get rid of it if they didn't like it, and B) the people who come to forums are device tweakers who must have things just so (I'm one of them too) and thus are looking for feedback regarding their particular pet peeve or issue caused by the one program they just MUST use. People complained about cracks in the hardware, or messed up keyboards, or whatever, but I've thrown my EeePC 1000H in and out of airports plenty of months and it has yet to be less than 100% satisfying, other than the $150 drop in price over when I bought it 10 months ago!
So, what I'm saying is, this is a phenomenon unique to the interwebz and electronics junkies in general, so don't be discouraged by all the negatives around here, in the end we're all just questing to make an amazing device even closer to perfect.

andrew-in-woking said:
Hi all
Thought I'd add a comment.
The one big difference between my Touch Pro2 and every other HTC phone is that the TP2 works extremely well out of the box and while some people are annoyed with all the bundled software (i.e. M3D and it's incalculable extensions) I actually think that this makes is a better device and would rather have more of this than less.
The point is: It does everything I want it to almost out of the box. This has not been the case with any other HTC device I have owned/used.
Best wishes
andrew-in-woking
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I must agree with Andrew. I own about 15 HTC phones, starting with the Wallaby, back in 2002. When I unboxed my TP2, I immediately thought 'what do I have to modify now?'. But it worked perfectly out of the box and i havent modified anything. I only installed my connection and Coreplayer... Simply good.
One flaw however is the resolution, which is incompatible with some of my software. But those titles are not vital for me.
So, now I am waiting for the next big hit... HTC SUPERSTAR...where are you??????

henh said:
hi Lyian, could you please tell me does s2u2 work ok on yours?
i installed the WQVGA v2.04, it doesn't look right to me since everything so small & sticking together. VGA version look normal on my screen. other thing is when i set On Battery Power>Blank Screen on Talk, it works once, try the 2nd time the screen off then back on again. any idea to config it right?
thanks
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The WQVGA is the wrong version for the TP2, you want the VGA version (WQVGA is for smaller resolution phones like the Tilt)
I would say it does work 'ok' on mine. I do have an issue with it here and there that i wont go into here, but for the most part, it doest what i want it to, which is, to keep me from accidentally calling people lol.

OP needs to stop worrying, TP2 is a fantastic device and also get off the apple hype bs, iPhone doesn't have an 800mhz processor lol, more like around 600 for the 3GS, even less for the 3G.

My Vouge is going bye bye.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPYM-XTqcec
'nuff said.

Bell doesn't have any android phones.
So I run it from my vogue..

Good luck!

Same here. Verizon says they are releasing two Android phone by the end of the year so I'm gonna wait to see what the other one is but by the end of the year I'll be using an Android phone. Tired of running it on my slow Vogue

man I saw that commercial today, I want one SOO bad.... too bad bell sucks for phones

Rumors seem to be that the second Motorola Android phone will be the forgotten Calgary, which some had thought to have changed into the Sholes/Toa/Droid. Leaked pictures of the Calgary shows a step down from the Droid, but the back indicates that it will include MotoBlur, as apposed to the Droid's "with Google" label. If that's the case, I will more than likely get the Droid for myself, and get the Calgary for my wife.

Unless there's something show-stopping about the Droid's default firmware, I'm sure we'll be able to just throw SenseUI or MotoBlur onto it without much trouble.
But yeah. I'm getting the Droid, hands down. Surely it won't be more than $200 on contract, right?

Finally a phone with a good UI and good hardware for Verizon. I can't wait to get one of these.

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Finally a phone with a good UI and good hardware for Verizon. I can't wait to get one of these.
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Don't hold your breath... Verizon will find some way to cripple it... they always do.
They are the masters at taking an otherwise great phone and stripping out the useful features and just "dumbing it down" in general

sbarne3 said:
Don't hold your breath... Verizon will find some way to cripple it... they always do.
They are the masters at taking an otherwise great phone and stripping out the useful features and just "dumbing it down" in general
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I agree Verizon has a way of screwing up a good thing.

iDont like real keyboards on phones.
I prefer on screen keyboards i might be getting the hero MAYBE... I want a windows mobile... i love how much you can customize..

hexto said:
Same here. Verizon says they are releasing two Android phone by the end of the year so I'm gonna wait to see what the other one is but by the end of the year I'll be using an Android phone. Tired of running it on my slow Vogue
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didnt read all of this post but it looks like the Leo will be the other Verizon Andriod, im soo torn on all of this i do like WM6.5 & have gotten use to how it works. But Android has more current stuff now, i really want a Leo with a Cooked Rom

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iDont like real keyboards on phones.
I prefer on screen keyboards i might be getting the hero MAYBE... I want a windows mobile... i love how much you can customize..
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My roommate has the Hero, I am not very impressed. Very slow processor, even though it has the same as the vogue it runs really slow. The open source operating system is great (he has tons of free apps and games), doesn't quite make up for the processor. The capacitive touch screen isn't any where near the iphone either. Wait for the HTC Leo, that is when everything will change, 1 ghz processor makes me salivate.

I agree with navy, the Leo, which is set to come out in early 2010, is the iphone killer.

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My roommate has the Hero, I am not very impressed. Very slow processor, even though it has the same as the vogue it runs really slow. The open source operating system is great (he has tons of free apps and games), doesn't quite make up for the processor. The capacitive touch screen isn't any where near the iphone either. Wait for the HTC Leo, that is when everything will change, 1 ghz processor makes me salivate.
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i think our android hero ports for the vogue run just as good if not better than the hero

Tilt2 good upgrade from Tilt considering Android?

Pardon me mods if I'm not in the right place, but it was my best guess based on the situation.
I'm having a hardware issue with my Tilt, and upgrade costs versus repair costs might make the Tilt2 a solid option. I know that the Tilt2's WM experience will be an improvement over the Tilt's. What I'm not sure about is Android.
My question is this - considering the very well-developed Android system over on the Kaiser/Tilt, would the Tilt2 be a naturally good upgrade? Strong points included the ability to stay with a good WM system while Android development progressed (Tilt2 is similarly strong in this regard, I'm sure), as well as the overall great job being done by the developers on these forums.
I know that some features I used often on the Tilt's Android are not quite there yet here on the Tilt2, especially GPS. I realize it's all speculation at this stage, but are there any red flags I should be aware of, any known issues that would render future development of these features impossible? I'd probably be willing to jump to the Tilt2 if the potential was strong, even if current stages are short in areas that I enjoy en everyday use. I guess I just want to make sure that there isn't anything known that would completely prevent any possibility of future development in things like GPS, BT, camera, etc.
Any thoughts/suggestions?

Meh, 50/50
Man, there are pros and cons when it comes to the Tilt 2. I absolutely loved my TyTn II. I went from it to an Iphone 3GS, and then reverted back to the Tilt 2, for lack of business-related features on the Iphone. I've had mixed emotions on my Tilt 2 ever since I first picked it up. Some days, I love it. Some days, I cant stand it. I'm keeping my fingers crossed, as I'm sure you are, on the possibility of a full-blown Android ROM that runs quick and smooth on this thing. To be completely honest, the stock Windows ROM needs tweaking just to run smoothly. On top of that, it has one of the most buggy SMS applications I have ever seen on a smartphone. I fell in love with HTC devices, and the Tilt 2 is a nice piece of hardware, but you have to do some work to get the software to where it just "fits". I am currently looking around for that "one ROM" that I will just love. And so far..... no luck.
Bottom line, the phone has amazing potential. Either it be a kick-butt Windows Mobile ROM, or a fully functional Android ROM, these will be the saviors of this device. Don't expect a warm and fuzzy feeling right out of the box, though.

That's actually really helpful, thanks for the input. Any ideas on similar devices? Just kinda weighing the options. The Pure is another upgrade possibility, and I'm sure there are more out there. That hardware keyboard on the Tilts is nice, though.
Either way, tweaking is fine with me. That's the fun, that's why I'm thinking WM/Android and avoiding the iPhone. I like the innovation and experimentation found here on XDA. I know that occasional crashes and resets come with the territory, I guess I'm mainly looking for a device that will allow me a similar level of functional flashing fun that the Kaiser did (and may still do if repair is easy).
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Man, there are pros and cons when it comes to the Tilt 2. I absolutely loved my TyTn II. I went from it to an Iphone 3GS, and then reverted back to the Tilt 2, for lack of business-related features on the Iphone. I've had mixed emotions on my Tilt 2 ever since I first picked it up. Some days, I love it. Some days, I cant stand it. I'm keeping my fingers crossed, as I'm sure you are, on the possibility of a full-blown Android ROM that runs quick and smooth on this thing. To be completely honest, the stock Windows ROM needs tweaking just to run smoothly. On top of that, it has one of the most buggy SMS applications I have ever seen on a smartphone. I fell in love with HTC devices, and the Tilt 2 is a nice piece of hardware, but you have to do some work to get the software to where it just "fits". I am currently looking around for that "one ROM" that I will just love. And so far..... no luck.
Bottom line, the phone has amazing potential. Either it be a kick-butt Windows Mobile ROM, or a fully functional Android ROM, these will be the saviors of this device. Don't expect a warm and fuzzy feeling right out of the box, though.
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Well then yeah, I would defiantly give the Tilt 2 a shot then. If your comfortable with flashing/customizing/crashing then you will be well on your way to what you want. (Wow... that's a lot of W's) I would avoid the Pure though, waaaaaay to small. OR you could hold off until the almighty Windows 7 Phone series launches. Trust me THE DAY that one is released for AT&T, the Tilt 2 will be a paperweight for a while.

You gotta remember that most of where your money is going, is to HARDWARE.
Right now, hands down, Tilt2 is the best Touch and Type device on the market. The WVGA screen combined with the best hardware keyboard of any handset, HTC or otherwise, cant be beat.
Some people don't care about the keyboard, but personally I HATE typing on a touchscreen, and I NEED my keyboard. I had a Tilt also, and I loved that phone, it made the top 25 Most Innovative Inventions of 2007-2008 list (one of those years), and the Tilt2 makes that handset look like a baby's toy. LOL (slight exaggeration)
Only thing is, Tilt2 was supposed to be last years line up, America is just slow as hell getting us handsets. There are going to be some REALLY nice Touch and Type HTC handsets coming out for 2010, you may just want to wait, and see whats in the second quarter 2010 lineup.

Thanks all. Confirmed that the Tilt2 is a nice device to be thinking of right now. I'll see how everything goes with my Tilt, and if it is indeed upgrade time, I'll probably be a Rhodium Android end-user guinea pig before long.
So just confirming, it looks like there's at least potential for fully-featured Android (GPS/WiFi/BT/Data/USB/etc.) in the future? No definitive permanent impossibilities that anyone's aware of?

TP2 reliability ?

Just ordered TP2 from Sprint, and already have reservations regarding its reliability... the problem is it's the only new smartphone with both stylus and WM, and I need both these features. Or so I think.
Anyway, I come from Axim X51v which is arguably the best PDA ever sold in States. At least after I took it apart and fixed the super-annoying battery latch issue. Also had iPaq 2215 that was very reliable. So at the very least I expect the new device to last a few months over 2 yr contract.
The only hardware problem I found for TP2 seems to be the digitizer separation / rainbow banding / newton rings whatever you want to call it. Don't know if it's a widespread issue - the poll on PPCGeeks shows 38% affected, but then we all know there's lies, damn lies, and statistics. The people who have a problem are more likely to go out and post about it.
Are there any other issues with this device ? Is the screen problem widespread ? Any reasons to stay away from it ? The other phones I looked at were HTC Hero and Samsung Moment, but both had their fair share of complaints, plus I really want to be able to use stylus and my WM applications. EVO looks great but it's too spanklng new, and I am not paying $10 a month for a privilege to not use 4G when not available.
Any info / horror stories / good experience from longtime TP2 users ?

id say get the Tilt 2 outta the bunch u named. THis is the main thing to remember, with the Tilt 2 u have a stylus and Windows Mobile. Also now u can have Android OS on it also. Now name me one Android phone that can load up WM? its the best of both worlds. best hardware keyboard around. Its a great device in my opinion. i dont have any complaints with it. There are so many tweaks that can be done to it, for optimization. A lot of people up here always saying, ohhh, its sloowww...plz....with my tweaks ive done, id pit my stock rom up against a custom one. Cuz mines is pretty damn fast. plus it takes great pix also. too much stuff to list. I only have good things to say about. nothing really bad, yet...lmao anyways, good luck on ur decision. plus if u do get a tilt 2, u dont have to flash a new rom to get faster. Ive noticed some folks here always want to recommend flashing, no matter what the problem is. You could be like, how do i set up email, and some will respond, Flash a new rom..lmfao You know what i mean. Flashing is cool though. You have to search around for the best and most stable ones that fit ur interests. if u get the tilt 2, PM me, and ill get ya up to speed very quickly.

Or Ummagumma could just flash a new custom ROM...

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Or Ummagumma could just flash a new custom ROM...
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hahahahaha
I've had the TP2 since the minute it was released and I can only say that I've been very pleased with the experience. It's smooth, stable, feels solid when you hold it, the tilt screen is a nice feature and any time I want a different look for my phone, it doesn't take too much work. I gotta say though that i've needed the stylus only a handful of times but it's nice to have. Know that if you are on a call and you take out the stylus, it automatically takes you to One Note so that you can jot down the info that you may need. While I don't know much about the other devices you mentioned, knowing what I know about the TP2 would lead me to purchase it yet again.

So, maybe it's just me, but I'm on my fifth device. T-Mobile touch pro 2, the first 2 had the rainbow banding, as you desribe it, the next 2 would often turn themselves off when opening or closing the phone.
Hoping 5th time is the charm, and all that. Though, even with all the problems and device swapping, I still wouldn't give up the phone. Best keyboard I've ever used, beating even my beloved SE P990i.

I luv my TP2! I've had it since launch-day in August.
While there have been plenty of complaints on these boards about this and that, they're almost all complaints about software...or indirectly about software as in "the software is too big for the hardware" -- stuff like that.
The vast majority of "problem" threads are issues about software.
I think it's safe to say that hardware problems are rare (except for those unfortunate few who seem jinxed).

Or Ummagumma could just flash a new custom ROM...
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U know that had me laughing hard as hell. ;-)
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HTC Rhodium still useful in an iPhone/WP7/Android era.

I still love my Cricket flashed TP2 (Sprint) and enjoy customizing it in fact. Very flexible like the HD2 and the keyboard is still one of the best in the industry. Anyone still using theirs today?

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I still love my Cricket flashed TP2 (Sprint) and enjoy customizing it in fact. Very flexible like the HD2 and the keyboard is still one of the best in the industry. Anyone still using theirs today?
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I wish I still had mine I miss it so much
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What's an iPhone?

Hell yeah I still use mine. It still does everything I want to do and its not the run of the mill phones of today.
Next up is taking it to europe for a couple weeks, swapping the sim card and still enjoying it there...

I would still use mine if I did not switch to Verizon.
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I still have mine too. I had to turn off that stupid slow Sence, but with Titanium is Rhodium fast and working great. And it does all what I need My lovely Rhodium.

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I still love my Cricket flashed TP2 (Sprint) and enjoy customizing it in fact. Very flexible like the HD2 and the keyboard is still one of the best in the industry. Anyone still using theirs today?
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I do! =)
(RhodiumW, sprint version)

This piece of Krapp Fone (yes with a K), its freakin slooooooooooooooowwwww. I use to think iphone 3G's was inferior back in 09. I still have my rhodium I honestly would love to use my sledge hammer, and cripple the dam thing!!! but if i can make $50 bucks of it, I'll be happier. couldn't stand memory leak issue with Windows mobile. Gladly, I am in the Samsung Galaxy S2 scene now, where there is not such thing as slowdowns.
HTC Rhodium, I REGRET YOU and DENOUNCE that you were ever my phone!

Same here. I still use my TP2 like it was brand new. I'm not parting with it until it dies. It does everything I need it to, and does it fairly quickly. Sure I can get an Arrive or a droid phone with a Ghz CPU, but I'd lose all the tweaks and programs I have amassed over the last year and a half. Screw that. Co0kies Home Tab still rules the roost round here!

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Same here. I still use my TP2 like it was brand new. I'm not parting with it until it dies. It does everything I need it to, and does it fairly quickly. Sure I can get an Arrive or a droid phone with a Ghz CPU, but I'd lose all the tweaks and programs I have amassed over the last year and a half. Screw that. Co0kies Home Tab still rules the roost round here!
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A month ago I would've agreed with you. But now that I finally got an Android native phone, I could never go back. You think there a lot of customizations with winmo and CHT, take that times 100 and you have Android. The things you can do is off the charts. You'll know what I mean when you finally move on from your TP2.

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This piece of Krapp Fone (yes with a K), its freakin slooooooooooooooowwwww. I use to think iphone 3G's was inferior back in 09. I still have my rhodium I honestly would love to use my sledge hammer, and cripple the dam thing!!! but if i can make $50 bucks of it, I'll be happier. couldn't stand memory leak issue with Windows mobile. Gladly, I am in the Samsung Galaxy S2 scene now, where there is not such thing as slowdowns.
HTC Rhodium, I REGRET YOU and DENOUNCE that you were ever my phone!
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i totally agree with you. this phone has caused me nothing but trouble in the longrun. it was quite good for a short period of time. ive just got myself a samsung galaxy s2 myself and there is no effin way im going back to tp2 ever. this phone i have now is crazily fast, there's truly no competition whatsoever (even an older android phone would beat the tp2).

sharkfinrazor said:
i totally agree with you. this phone has caused me nothing but trouble in the longrun. it was quite good for a short period of time. ive just got myself a samsung galaxy s2 myself and there is no effin way im going back to tp2 ever. this phone i have now is crazily fast, there's truly no competition whatsoever (even an older android phone would beat the tp2).
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I agree. Many think the Rhodium and winmo is the end all be all of customizability... but things have changed.

slapshot30 said:
I agree. Many think the Rhodium and winmo is the end all be all of customizability... but things have changed.
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Had tp2 for two years. Beautiful phone aesthecally unbeatable keyboard. The mistake I made was upgrading to Sense. The phone was never designed to run sense....slowed it down completely. Also it began to have random shut downs and crashes with Sense. It was irritating to have to install apps like Clean Ram in order to rescue my phone from crashing and keep it workable each day.
The straw that broke the camels back was when youtube hq video support for tp2 stopped.....it finally hit home that I had an aging phone that was unable to keep up with the times....a phone that youtube and adobe flash were now overlooking. Windows mobile had had its day it seemed. As such, it was time to put my tp2 in my 'museum' drawer along with my htc diamond and old ipaq.
I switched to a phone that was ahead of the times and might provide at least two years of futureproof peace of mind due to its specs...samsung gs2. Android is the future imho. I still occasionally use my htc hero without any problems - bar the smallish screen...
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slapshot30 said:
I agree. Many think the Rhodium and winmo is the end all be all of customizability... but things have changed.
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Yup, with Android you get the customization options, and you also get an OS that actually works and has a ton of good software. If you need to stay with WinMo for personal reasons, then its tolerable. But if you compare Winmo to Android side to side, there is no contest.

I believe you. I've been using the Tilt 2 for a long time now, and I was waiting for DFT's Android NAND to be out but I gave up waiting last week. It's been lying around for a week without a sim card in it and still has battery life left. It's been running for a week on standby without charging. I moved to the Galaxy S, but I still love the TP2. Great phone it is. I will use it to test if they do come out with a proper android ROM for it.

Still using mine. All love love with it.

Im still using mine. My wife upgraded from the touch pro to the arrive running windows 7. It is nice but I still prefer 6.5. I would like a better camera and some sort of d pad to allow one hand use but still have not found a replacement. The xperia x2 looked perfect but it is not available in the US and I would have to switch to ATaT because it is GSM. I love the tp2 and it does almost everything I want. I use it with the stock rom and spb mobile shell. It allows me to customize the phone exactly how I like it.

My precious....

After running an old Kaiser with a very stable ROM for the last 2 years I "upgraded" my equipment with tp2, which I ever wanted to have. Must say, the Keyboard is great, don't wanna miss it any more! But WM 6.5 is a hard experience...
Till now I've fought over 3 months with this phone! It's such a brilliant concept of a phone, why is it so hard to get it stable??? I think I've tried out nearly any german ROM out in the field, including Energy Rom and the original one from HTC, not a single one was without a bug! The only thing I want it is to be stable, smooth and, well, just working!
Now I stay with the original Stock ROM, by now it seems to be stable, but memory using is a monster, and the phone slows down over the day.
And, after all, I also think of leaving good old WM and change to Androiid, but all I can read is that syncing Android with all my Data in Outlook via USB is also such a tricky job like using ActiveSync...
Has anyone here experience in that?

I have mine for now a year. I dont understand why HTC started to screw their Touch and Type phones. If you look in past, if you buyed a HTC with full qwerty, you became much faster phone than only Touch. Last better Touch and Type was Touch pro. If you compare witch Diamond, it had more Ram. From this point the Touch and type had worse hardware. I dont understand why they made Touch pro 2 with hardware from Touch pro. It was old and in that year came HTC touch HD2 with Snapdragon. So why Touch pro 2 didnt became also? This is only thing what i miss on this phone.
But... i had now for 2 days HTC Desire. I know, it had overheating issue, but i made some tricks to made it working I tryed and i must say, AMOLED, camera, speed, android was the hammer. There are only 2 reason i wouldnt buy one for common use. Absent full qwerty and my TP2 still do all i want. I would miss my 5 row keyboard :-D So still, TP2 is still numero uno for me ;-)