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hi there and Happy new year..
I have found this forum and i am pretty happy for i find it a usefull forum with happy HTC users...
i have look allover to find more people that share all kinds of stuff...
i was looking for few things and i could not find it anywhere...
I am very new here as you can see this is my very first post...
i have a yahoo id if you guys want 2 cool home modified backgrounds... let me know i'll find a way to post them.
if you need more art work to be done i am willing to help out in exchange of software. i can create/change any gif/png/jpg. i can make custom backgrounds. so.. let me know
i don't know to much about HTC TYTN - Hermes - what is the best Windows 6...? or ROM ???
thanks in advance.
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i don't know to much about HTC TYTN - Hermes - what is the best Windows 6...? or ROM ???
thanks in advance.
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Welcome to the board. You gotta be careful of that question. You have like 30 chefs on here and you're probably going to get flamed for not researching. I guess the best way to decide which ROM is the best is to decide what you want to use your device for. Then start reading. Or you could cook your own. Before I started cooking, I used JoshKoss, CRC, Mick Smith's. They are all good. Just read my friend.
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Welcome to the board. You gotta be careful of that question. You have like 30 chefs on here and you're probably going to get flamed for not researching. I guess the best way to decide which ROM is the best is to decide what you want to use your device for. Then start reading. Or you could cook your own. Before I started cooking, I used JoshKoss, CRC, Mick Smith's. They are all good. Just read my friend.
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thanks a lot for teh fast response.. i read so much .. i just don't know much about phones running windows.. i am not trying to do anything wrong.. i am asking because i need to understand... th principle.. names.. pls help .. where should i look for some answers.. i am a fast learner.. i prommise...
do you mind if i asking you if you have a yahoo id? so you can help me better and faster pls.. thanks in advance
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thanks a lot for teh fast response.. i read so much .. i just don't know much about phones running windows.. i am not trying to do anything wrong.. i am asking because i need to understand... th principle.. names.. pls help .. where should i look for some answers.. i am a fast learner.. i prommise...
do you mind if i asking you if you have a yahoo id? so you can help me better and faster pls.. thanks in advance
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WHOA WHOA slow down you over-achiever. Take a deep breath. Now, this should be your first read. It has a BUNCH of info. The site has a WIKI also that answers a ton of stuff. Yes, I have a Yahoo ID. It's in my signature, just send an invite.
lol...yes indeed. Your question is almost begging to be flamed. Though you may also get lucky and get away with it Like the above poster said there isn't anything like a specific 'best' ROM for a phone. Its a personal preference. The wiki is an excellent place for you to get started on getting to understand everything you need to know about you phone. Use the search option for any question you have. Your bound to find relevant results on almost any type of search. Happy reading and welcome to the board.
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lol...yes indeed. Your question is almost begging to be flamed. Though you may also get lucky and get away with it Like the above poster said there isn't anything like a specific 'best' ROM for a phone. Its a personal preference. The wiki is an excellent place for you to get started on getting to understand everything you need to know about you phone. Use the search option for any question you have. Your bound to find relevant results on almost any type of search. Happy reading and welcome to the board.
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sorry guys,, newbees fault...
after i got the first answer i have found teh WIKI.. no bad intentions here...
i just saw so many ROMS... and i hardly know what they are.. just now trying to find out.. somebody enlighten me pls..
i am reading, reading..
thanks..
Start with CRC's rom.. good, fast, stable
This cant be flamed, BTW!!!! this can be great apreciatted.
I meet many designers and has magic on their hands (and HD's full of tricks on photoshop's projects!) well if you want to start... you can talk with joshkoss, CRC, abuzalsa and many others... cause at this time they are trying to change some icons in .PNG and .ICO full glossy pics maybe 32 x 32 or less like the Notification Icons in upper bar... so talk to him about your skills maybe you can give us new Icons or something... read about the images on the ROMS... what extension, or what kind, sizes, and wheigts...
Hope you can find your work here.
Hi Guys,
Anyone have a link to the latest official HTC Diamond rom?
Cheers
Paul
yes, nice 1st post, learn to read
Ever tried the official HTC Website?
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yes, nice 1st post, learn to read
Ever tried the official HTC Website?
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What a really nice guy - your parents must be proud.
The official HTC website cannot be used to upgrade diamonds from other providers, like mine is an 02 Ignito.
I asked a simple question, after searching around here the list of official roms seems to be way out of date.
Is it too hard for anyone to supply a simple friendly answer round here?
Thanks
I've seen a few links in other posts of this forum to the latest version. I think you can find them with Search - don't remember exactly where they were.
Here is all the new roms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=471699
I read two site back and find this, u must remember that if you need something and you dont find it in the FIRST page look at the next page. The answer can be there..
just a tip
That being the case, it's not really the *official* version that you want. You want the latest release to update your ignito branded unit. Precise communications make things so much easier, eh?
Simple friendly answers are common, as long as evidence indicates that you searched first. If you don't understand why people are touchy about this, please read any of the notes about posting to forums. They will explain. Briefly, the 1% of people that provide most of the help are exhausted from repeating themselves. They'd like to move on to new things. Hence the search features of forums. Yes, it takes a while to find exactly what you need. We've all been through it. Others are expected to do the same.
This is not a slam towards you, this is a simple, friendly answer. If you find it abrasive, you weren't listening.
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What a really nice guy - your parents must be proud.
The official HTC website cannot be used to upgrade diamonds from other providers, like mine is an 02 Ignito.
I asked a simple question, after searching around here the list of official roms seems to be way out of date.
Is it too hard for anyone to supply a simple friendly answer round here?
Thanks
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paulrgod said:
What a really nice guy - your parents must be proud.
The official HTC website cannot be used to upgrade diamonds from other providers, like mine is an 02 Ignito.
I asked a simple question, after searching around here the list of official roms seems to be way out of date.
Is it too hard for anyone to supply a simple friendly answer round here?
Thanks
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NOT when what you're searching for is in the STICKIES!!
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NOT when what you're searching for is in the STICKIES!!
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Thanks for all your incredibly helpful replies.
In fact what i was looking for was not in the stickies - if you call the thread that was last updated in August what im looking for your very mistaken (but yes that thread was stickied, but it in no way shape or form contains the latest English ROM).
And to DrewVS - your presuming i wanted the 02 branded crap on my phone? No that is not what i asked for therefore that detail wasn't required.
Thanks a lot guys, really helpful freindly community you got here.
You all need to step off your pedestals and realise that not everyone knows what
RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-ME_1.93.456.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.0 0.25.05_Ship means.
The strings of numbers mean nothing to me, nothings clear around here and when someone asks for a little help, hey its my first post even to pounce and give all this bull****.
It's almost like you losers get off on preaching about the search and your precious out of date stickies.
Well - thanks again for the help and goodbye.
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Thanks for all your incredibly helpful replies.
In fact what i was looking for was not in the stickies - if you call the thread that was last updated in August what im looking for your very mistaken (but yes that thread was stickied, but it in no way shape or form contains the latest English ROM).
And to DrewVS - your presuming i wanted the 02 branded crap on my phone? No that is not what i asked for therefore that detail wasn't required.
Thanks a lot guys, really helpful freindly community you got here.
You all need to step off your pedestals and realise that not everyone knows what
RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-ME_1.93.456.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.0 0.25.05_Ship means.
The strings of numbers mean nothing to me, nothings clear around here and when someone asks for a little help, hey its my first post even to pounce and give all this bull****.
It's almost like you losers get off on preaching about the search and your precious out of date stickies.
Well - thanks again for the help and goodbye.
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Sorry I have not got an answer for you but your right, its funny how the people who contribute nothing feel they have to make up for it by acting self important.
Personaly I think that simply not replying to your post if it offended them so much would have been more polite but obviosly good manners are not well known here.
I suppose that it gives them some sort of meaning, I would not worry about it though, just log in to download files like I do and let the blow hards do the "big I am" routine and stroke there own ego's.
THe good manners aire FIRSTLY to follow the rules... so hitting the SEARCH button be4 asking whatever question.
And SECONDLY, if he cannot recognize that RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-ME_1.93.456.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.0 0.25.05_Ship is the ROM he is looking for, how can we all encourage him to perform a ROM upgrade? What if he upgrade and BROCK the Diamond.
THIRD: does he knows he need HARD SPL?
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THe good manners aire FIRSTLY to follow the rules... so hitting the SEARCH button be4 asking whatever question.
And SECONDLY, if he cannot recognize that RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-ME_1.93.456.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.0 0.25.05_Ship is the ROM he is looking for, how can we all encourage him to perform a ROM upgrade? What if he upgrade and BROCK the Diamond.
THIRD: does he knows he need HARD SPL?
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Ooooh i can tell the rage is burning here, look at the angry response with all the BIG ANGRY CAPITALS and spelling errors, cool your beans my friend!
FIRSTLY - I did search but alas, could not find what i looked for so asked a simple, polite question.
SECONDLY - Apologies, i dont know how to speak Robot, if you think that RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-ME_1.93.456.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.0 0.25.05_Ship is clear version numbering - your simply a fool... oh and i think you meant 'I could BRICK my diamond' not too sure what BROCK means...
THIRDLY - I do know how to do firmware upgrade (thanks to a really helpful Sticky!! ...OMG ). Im currently on dutty's latest but dont like it, there are some annoying bugs - so again you assume i dont know that i need HARDSPL? You're wrong again you elitist loser....why not just look at the facts before Assuming things eh?
And..because im in a good mood; i'm gonna add a FOURTHLY - Piss off out of people's threads if you can't contribute anything constructive or helpful, whats the point, it just winds people up.
I realise there are some really hard working people here and a lot of you do deserve the donations, but why do you treat new people, asking general, polite questions like something you've scraped off your boot??? It's disgusting...
Ta Ta
And Thanks Jammy Dodger, i have looked through lots of threads here, and i'm not the only one they've pounced on and likely discouraged from taking part in the community - take care buddy!
The poor guy just isn't really into forums (both reading and posting, in that order ) and ROM upgrading...
What we can only hope for is that he either:
- learns from all of this, starts reading about reading forums, posting in forums and ROM upgrading (including HardSPL/SoftSPL) and succesfully flashes a new ROM, gets the hang of it, starts cooking his own ROMs and contributes to the xda-developer community (maybe even telling some newbies how to use the forum)
or
- he reads all comments, decides he doesn't like us and forgets aboud flashing and even about xda-developers
I definetely prefer the first option!
Come on guys, don't take it too serious!
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Ooooh i can tell the rage is burning here, look at the angry response with all the BIG ANGRY CAPITALS and spelling errors, cool your beans my friend!
FIRSTLY - I did search but alas, could not find what i looked for so asked a simple, polite question.
SECONDLY - Apologies, i dont know how to speak Robot, if you think that RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-ME_1.93.456.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.0 0.25.05_Ship is clear version numbering - your simply a fool... oh and i think you meant 'I could BRICK my diamond' not too sure what BROCK means...
THIRDLY - I do know how to do firmware upgrade (thanks to a really helpful Sticky!! ...OMG ). Im currently on dutty's latest but dont like it, there are some annoying bugs - so again you assume i dont know that i need HARDSPL? You're wrong again you elitist loser....why not just look at the facts before Assuming things eh?
And..because im in a good mood; i'm gonna add a FOURTHLY - Piss off out of people's threads if you can't contribute anything constructive or helpful, whats the point, it just winds people up.
I realise there are some really hard working people here and a lot of you do deserve the donations, but why do you treat new people, asking general, polite questions like something you've scraped off your boot??? It's disgusting...
Ta Ta
And Thanks Jammy Dodger, i have looked through lots of threads here, and i'm not the only one they've pounced on and likely discouraged from taking part in the community - take care buddy!
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Owh...
The frustration!
Ahaha he wrote 2 lines cuz i write Brock instead of Brick.
U r without arguments man
Maybe u can edit your signature so every1 here know u are already on a cooked ROM.
Omg I write ROM un uppercase... this is angry behaviour from my side. Sorry.
So u r able to GRAB
And u r able to ASK
Y don't u think about contribute? Or donating? Just a lil'... be4 asking.
I'm off, this discusison don't deserve anymore time
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RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-ME_1.93.456.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.0 0.25.05_Ship, I hope the following will help:
• RUU_Diamond_HTC: This is an official rom by the manufacture (Hence HTC) for the Diamond aka Ignito amongst other names.
• WWE: Worldwide English.
• ME: Middle East, This is the region part in this case Middle East. In this example, the rom supports WWE and Middle Eastern setting, things like language support, radio type which relates to the network provider specs. From my humble experience, the ME and AR(the later stands for Arabic) specs are the same as European specs.
• 1.93.456.2: (1.93) rom version, latest in this case. (456) region, in this case Middle East. (2), latest patch,, the higher the better.
• Singned_Diamond: The rom will only mount on a Diamond singed with HTC’s own certificate. In other words, the rom will not work on branded Diamonds, like T mobile MDA or O2 XDA, hence the need for hard spl to flash an HTC rom on branded telephone.
• 52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05: Radio version. Most Important factor in reception, GPS and battery life amongs other things.
Hope the above has helped.
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Thanks a lot Omar - thats very useful information.
@ paul:
first, did you noticed the phrase "developers" in the URL? Perhaps you did expect the wrong community...
But nevertheless we could/should help each other, so try this thread if you didn't found it already:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=471699
I guess you get what you are looking for with this linked upload:
RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE_2.03.405.2_Radio_Signed_Diamon d_52.51.25.26_1.09.25.23_Ship
When I joined this forum, just like you (OP) I never really got any help from anyone here. I did all the searching I need but end up still needing to ask few questions here and there but no one would help me. Now I learned my lesson... you just need to read through the hundreds of pages of information here. It took me five days to understand on my own how to flash the radio. But its just me. I guess I'm slowww. But NO I'm not. I'm just a newbie and newbies are always told to "SEARCH". Your on your own buddy.
Still, XDA Forum rocks.
You know. I was always wondering why developers suddenly stop with roms or programs. They can have family or personal reasons like being very busy with work or with whatever.
But there are more reasons why developers stop with cooking roms and/or programs. I've seen this before on other forums where developers stopped. Like with "Todayplus" some years ago.Same reason.
Here's the other reason
Just a suggestion though to others, take care of cooks you still have here (ex: pcarvalho).Signs of encouragement help, less demanding in threads as if they owe you something, and every now and then donate enough to keep them motivated.
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As the cooker explaing this has nothing to do with donations.I think the above is very true.Demanding is very "deadly" in every case.
Think about it!
I agree there seems to be a sense of entitlement to people who are using the ROMs.
The good chefs here cook how they feel they want to and offer it to you. If you want something changed, learn to cook yourself.
The OP is absolutely right if we start mistreating anyone or bark out orders, they will stop.
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The OP is absolutely right if we start mistreating anyone or bark out orders, they will stop.
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Hi
I wrote the OP. The quote I used was from a cook I read and this start making me think. Resulted in this thread.So he was right. I only spread his word
Sadly, this attitude is not new and not unique to these 'rom cookers' either. Coming from an Open Source background, you must see the number of demands that are made of our project/members.. even when *we* offer free support and help as well as software.
I like to kick this thread once in a while to make you aware of the subject. Since it is important if you like see the new ROM's keep coming up.
i would like to also make note of the fact that not a lot of user will download a rom by a new cook. this is a bit unfair since although the rom that has been made may not be the best it still took a lot of hard work to create
the reason im highlighting this is because i think it important to try out roms from nrew cooks and let them know how its gewtting on in terms of performance wise let them know whats wrong with it and were it could be improved
ok now ill use an example
when i posted my rom i got a few downloaders who try it out but all of one reply
this reply consisted of badmouthing my rom
then i got one who said it was actually fast
so basically the first poster on the thread about my rom wasnt being very nice and id like to thank hendrixus for letting people this is a problem
also as far as my last post went
sorry if it confused the op into thinking i was calling him a dent
i wasnt talking bout this threasd but my own
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im more inclined to take the advice from the second poster but the first poter was a bit of a dent
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That's because I smoke a Cigar right?
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im more inclined to take the advice from the second poster but the first poter was a bit of a dent
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What a nice compliment, thanks.
btw I don't smoke at all
English is not my native. You probely speak better dutch then I do English [/offtopic]
Nevertheless.People do agree to what I wrote. But I still find posters demand the cooks, who ask the same questions over-and-over again. They don't search, nor read (faqs) to find the answers which are there.
They just "hop-in" and start asking. Like we are the HTC's helpdesk which we arn't.
I noticed the following for some time.
Even when a app is discontinued people keep on "talking" to the programmer, even when he hasn't been on the forum for a year or so. Asking for bugfixes and new features.
It is not only ridiculious, but pathetic too. Those who are doing so are not only newbies but also seniors. At least they should know better
oh crap i think ive just totally confused you all when i was reffering to the first poster being a dent and me wanting to believe the scond one
i was talking about my own rom thread. when i posted my rom in the thread for it the first poster just labelled it a piece of crap even though i said it was my first the second poster was a bit nicer
i wasnt talking bout you guys
i am getting my self a htc desire but i have been a user of windows mobile software's for ever and i love it.
would i be able to still use some of the software's that i have on hand??
I would appriciate if you could email me your replies on this subject to
[email protected]
Thank you in advance
From what Ive seen on here from when other people have posted this question hes gonna get a lot of hate emails lol.
LOL, what a redicilous question!! Android FTW!
i'd wager it's possible if you can find a few dedicated people to support your cause.
Oh, and btw, bwahahahahahahahahahaha
And that's coming from someone who's had 4 WinMo devices in a row before a desire.
Since the specs are similar It might not be that difficult for people to get together etc..
But, If you can, try the desire and the HD2 and see which you prefer. After owning winmo before, and coming within inches of owning a HD2 and then trying a desire - linux is so much better at the user experience. The fluidity, ease of use and speed at which things are accessed is far better than the winmo 6.1 and 6.5 I have used before. The OS is very intuitive. I bet you could give this phone to a 6 yr old and they would within a short time frame be using this better than the general user. I might try this.
I'm just very happy that the phone doesnt stress me out trying to use it like winmo did. writing txts and swapping between functions is quick. Very cool.
It's not "Is it possible?" it's "Why bother?"
I hate "flame" conversation. But WHY bother? If you want snapdragon with WM then HD2 is your device. I have 10years of history with windows mobile devices from Cassiopeia A-11 with Windows CE, thru WM2003, 05, 06 and 6.5. And I can say after month with HTC Desire, every possible app is already for android and it runs faster and looks better. Except professional apps used in parcel delivery and stock monitoring (only question of time).
Don´t worry you´ll do just fine.
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The OS is very intuitive. I bet you could give this phone to a 6 yr old and they would within a short time frame be using this better than the general user. I might try this.
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A six year old might be fine, the missus still struggles...
I, myself, am a fully fledged Android convert. Previously, my favourite devices were all WinMobile (Never liked Symbian much). I took a leap of faith and got my Desire on a bit of a whim (and a LOT of research) and I can honestly say I love Android to bits, it's easily the best Phone/Phone OS I've ever used so I'm on everyone in this forum's side when it comes to Android vs. WinMobile.
But I still have to say, I see nothing wrong with what the OP is asking. If someone released a port of Windows Mobile 6.5 or 7 for the Desire, I'd probably try it out myself, even for just a giggle. I know I'd go back to android probably within a few hours, but that's not the point, it's fun to play with stuff like that.
The fact that the guy has picked the Desire over the likes of the HD2 tells me that he's made his choice with Android and just wants to keep his options open - and what's wrong with that? This is exactly the kind of thing that XDA dev was designed for. Hell, my dream would be to have an OS choice at bootup, imagine being able to pick between your favourite custom ROMs, a stock ROM and even a WinMo ROM? That would be pretty epic and I don't think anyone would complain that it was a "Waste of time". So go easy on the guy, it's not all that stupid a question.
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So go easy on the guy, it's not all that stupid a question.
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It is a stupid question when it gets asked week in week out.
A simple search would've revealed this - I just searched "Windows Mobile" and found 5 threads asking the same question.
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Which just means there's a fair amount of interest in it, making it even less of a stupid question. Rather than flame the guy, just ask him nicely to use search in future and point him to one of the threads.
Personally, I don't think the ignorance of the search bar is any worse than those who flame people for asking "stupid questions".
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Which just means there's a fair amount of interest in it, making it even less of a stupid question.
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No, it just means that the poster(s) can't be bothered to read the forum rules!
1. Search before posting
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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Note - it's rule 1!
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No, it just means that the poster(s) can't be bothered to read the forum rules!
Note - it's rule 1!
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Exactly - and the point I'm trying to make is that Rule #2 applies just as much as Rule 1!
2. Be polite and respect your fellow xda-dev user.
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Exactly - and the point I'm trying to make is that Rule #2 applies just as much as Rule 1!
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You clearly haven't been here long if you think what's been said on this thread constitutes a flame - this is so tame it wouldn't even register on a mod's radar!
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Why bother buying a Desire and ask for a WinMo porting? just buy an HD Mini or an HD2.
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You clearly haven't been here long if you think what's been said on this thread constitutes a flame - this is so tame it wouldn't even register on a mod's radar!
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I wouldn't say flaming, just wasn't terribly polite. Sure, the guy could have and should have used the search engine ,that's fair enough, but all the "Lols, why bother, android is teh win, winmo is teh suck!" style comments weren't helpful, informative or necessary at all.
I'm sorry, but if you don't believe this is a stupid question I would strongly question your intelligence. Is there some problem picking up a Windows Mobile? Are they rare enough that such a strange request would come up again and again? It's silly because for those that WANT a WM phone, one is easily acquired. It's like asking if there's a way to turn my XBOX into a PS3 because I don't like XBOX games...then I'm a fool for buying one! Just because there are a lot of silly people does not render their silliness valid.
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I'm sorry, but if you don't believe this is a stupid question I would strongly question your intelligence. Is there some problem picking up a Windows Mobile? Are they rare enough that such a strange request would come up again and again? It's silly because for those that WANT a WM phone, one is easily acquired. It's like asking if there's a way to turn my XBOX into a PS3 because I don't like XBOX games...then I'm a fool for buying one! Just because there are a lot of silly people does not render their silliness valid.
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See, this is exactly my point. Here's a reply that, within the first line, attempts to insult. Why do that? It doesn't help and all you'll do is drag out this thread much more than it needs to be. Does this "stupid question" bother you that much? Then don't reply! Ignore it and it'll go away.
Anyway, upon further inspection, it's actually not that stupid inquestion. Despite the knee-jerk reaction we all got from the title, if you read his post carefully, he's actually asking if there's any way he can run some of his windows mobile programs on the Desire. Not the full OS, just some of the programs. Sure, this is obviously a big "no", but is it really that stupid a question? We have emulators for plenty of other devices and anyone not that familliar with Android might not know that it's a completely different OS, or that it's completely incompatible. He's clearly a newbie, so go easy.
All I'm really saying is, if this kind of thing bothers you, drop the attitude and juse ignore it.
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See, this is exactly my point. Here's a reply that, within the first line, attempts to insult. Why do that?
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Because, judging from the amount of times I seen this patently ridiculous request, the polite helpful tone doesn't seem to work.
Sure, this is obviously a big "no", but is it really that stupid a question?
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Yes frankly. It doesn't strike you as silly? you don't think the ability to run WM apps or some sort of virtualisation on Android might have made big waves by now? No? Really?
I would say if the attitude bothers you, YOU ignore it.
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Why bother buying a Desire and ask for a WinMo porting? just buy an HD Mini or an HD2.
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Maybe it's because the Desire has more RAM that the HD2 and HD Mini, why can't someone just port winmo on a desire and shut people up thats asking for it too be ported..... surely its not that hard to port it over.....
"Maybe its just to hard for XDA Developers or anonymous developers on this forum to port it over.... ah well soo much for theres skills....
It serisouly serisouly can't be that hard.... if Android can be ported on a winmo mobile, why is it soo hard to port winmo on a Android phone thats 100% capable of running the O/S.
Please will someone just port it over to the Desire soo there will not be any more future threads of if it can be ported over.....
Maybe some people don't like Android and prefer winmo O/S because of there purchased apps maybe.
Please don't go mocking me saying "omg why would anyone wan't to do that.... Android is the best because its open source etc....
Hi, as I am not overly fond of the android operating system,
is the hardware such that you could flash a 6.5 windows mobile rom onto the desire?
is it worthwhile trying?
It is impossible, android is open source and thus can be modified to run on diffrent hardware, windows mobile isnt, plus we have diff bootloaders to winmo phones so a flash wud be impossible
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Do people literally NEVER use the search feature then?
How many people are going to post the same ridiculously foolish question?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=693158
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=697718
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6731090
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=677930
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=675647
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6183231
Use the bloody search.
its not a foolish question, i have been active on various sections of xda developers forums and have contributed and gained from each of them, tinkering with a variety of models, I was thinking of buying a desire but wanted to see just how much I can mess with it first .
I have found the majority of people on these forums to be helpful and whilst I understand your frustration, I will be new to this part of the site. And with so many threads its not always easy to find exactly what your looking for
What differs in the hardware to make it impossible? is it just partitioning of the space on the phone? surely if someone wrote a bootloader it would be possible?
If you want to dual boot, you might want to get a HD2 instead, my understanding is that the android rom is in developement.
The desire is pretty much a pure Anroid phone, im not sure that there would be much demand to get winmo workingon it since most people have switched from winmo out of choice and don't really feel the need to go back, but thats just my slant on it. crazier things have happened on this forum.
For starters the drivers were written using the android open source project, every single driver for every tiny piece of hardware would habe to be rewritten lol
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i have read your other posts and understand your frustrations but the whole reason I buy each model is to see how much I can mess with it
would be interesting to see such development in the ROM developement section
but if there is a technical reason why its impossible ( apart from the lack of SPL)
then someone please tell me, as I have not brought the handset yet hehe
what I always say is where there is a will there is a way
as for why ? i dont know... just to see if it can be broken - whats the point in having system you cant break or change Zzzzz
although I do appreciate somethings are impossible.
Can some one explain (if any) the differences in hardware from the hd2 to the desire that will make this task impossile ?
would be much appreciated xxx thanks
I doubt it'd be impossible - but it's take a huge ammount of R&D and developers on here don't have that sort of time/money to undertake such a task...
Just get an HD2 if you want WinMo (can buy my old one if you want? )
The rock bottom is it wud be illegal, it would be in violation of microsofts intelectual rights and for that matter is neva gunna happen here, when we owned windows phones we bought a licence to use windows mobile, with our desire we get no such licence, this would also make it piracy
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With that argument surely baking and distributing custom ROMs would also be illegal? Do that on a Windows PC and you'd get sued!!
But yeah, agree with you
Microsoft have tried to shut xda dwn for that reason many times, but they have always backed down, if a project lyk this was started on a non winmo phone i guarantee they wudnt
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its not a foolish question
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It is when it's been asked and answered multiple times. Being such a long standing XDA user you'd think you'd have had a gander at the rules by now or at least attempt to adhere to them.
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And with so many threads its not always easy to find exactly what your looking for
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The 6 posts I posted were found with a single search of "Windows Mobile, Desire" up in that search box you completely ignored. So, yes, it is easy...you just didn't even try.
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With that argument surely baking and distributing custom ROMs would also be illegal?
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Android is open source...Windows Mobile isn't.
I have seen many questions asking if windows mobile can be ported to the desire. But this post explains it better than any other why it can't.
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Aitese said:
Android is open source...Windows Mobile isn't.
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That's what I meant, Microsoft sueing chefs for distributing custom WinMo ROMs...I know Android doesn't matter
Aitese said:
It is when it's been asked and answered multiple times. Being such a long standing XDA user you'd think you'd have had a gander at the rules by now or at least attempt to adhere to them.
The 6 posts I posted were found with a single search of "Windows Mobile, Desire" up in that search box you completely ignored. So, yes, it is easy...you just didn't even try.
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Aitese, I do understand your frustration, multiple posts are a no no yes, but I was putting a different slant on it. ie I didnt really grasp from the other threads technically what was stopping us from achieving this task so thats not stupid in my opinion and hasnt been broken down in major detail. My curiosity is that the HD2 and desire seem exactly the same in terms of hardware, yet people suggest that swapping operating systems is impossible.
however, I do now accept that it may not be worth doing
but none of the previous threads seem to explain why that is in any great technical detail (no doubt ul find this now haha), at least now we have discovered whats stopping some one from doing it.
ps I reserve all right to be a lazy noob, to my knowledge I have not broken any other forum rules, as this is not exactly a double post, similar subject yes but if anything this thread would save a curious person like myself from attempting something that might be infringement ..
at least now I wont try
EddyOS said:
I doubt it'd be impossible - but it's take a huge ammount of R&D and developers on here don't have that sort of time/money to undertake such a task...
Just get an HD2 if you want WinMo (can buy my old one if you want? )
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.. how much ; )
ps what varies from the desire to the hd2 in terms of hardware
looks like nowt
love this thread!
ive been trying to get away from my touch HD to android - had to go via a free HD2 upgrade to get here......trust me, windows needs a major overall to tempt me to go back
thats what everybody says .. but my curiosity is that in terms of hardware specs the hd2 and the desire look the same, apart from a bit more ram on the desire ?!?
so... er ... why would the drivers vary that much ?
pls be patient with me I just like messing with stuff
on further playing with android I must say it does seem to have the edge over win mob
persisting with this annoying thread (sorry guys) but what is to stop me using mtty to format my device and flashing the hd2 stock rom to the desire?
ie what would the compatibilty issues be? (as by looks of it hardware is the same give or take a bit of extra ram)
could this be done, and would it just be a case of using a tweaked RUU that would ignore the model number? would this work?
I am guessing the buttons would have to be remapped but what other compatibilty issues would there be ? basically is it possible or is the file structure totally different in a way that would not allow it?
(ps sorry if its something obvious and im making myself look a dummy but from what I can see the HD2 and the Desire are very similar in spec)