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Fastest WM 5.0 ROM?

Can anyone send my the FTP address for the fastest WM 5.0 ROM I can use on my O2 XDA Exec?

I have 2 links, try them both
LINK 1
LINK 2
Warning: These links may require more than 2 (two) active and working braincells.

Thanks asshole. Seems you don't know how to search either since you didn't send me a link... If you don't have anything to offer to the thread, don't say anything at all.

Windowsrookie said:
Thanks asshole. Seems you don't know how to search either since you didn't send me a link... If you don't have anything to offer to the thread, don't say anything at all.
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"Arguing on the internet is like winning the Special Olympics, even if you win your're still retarded"
Bearing that in mind ill just say this: If you searched (or even looked at the first page) you would find exactly what you are looking for, how do you think i learn't all this stuff? not one useless thread like this i can tell you...
"We" don't get paid to help people, so we find it a bit annoying when people ask questions that have been answered at least 5 times already....
Have a nice day
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Just looking through your recent posts and almost all your questions have been answered before and/or are in the wiki so I'll just give it to you again in case you missed it before
WIKI
SEARCH

Yet, You still haven't show me a link. I dont see anything on the front page like you said. And that's good, you shouldn't be paid, because you're doing a horrible job.

Windowsrookie said:
Yet, You still haven't show me a link. I dont see anything on the front page like you said. And that's good, you shouldn't be paid, because you're doing a horrible job.
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to quote a great sig:
"Give a man a link, and he will solve his problem that day. Teach a man to use search, and he will solve his own problems for life."
Really, all this and you could have spent 5 minutes searching and had your answer by 12:00 (GMT)

Here's a new one...
"I don't know the answer to the question, so I'll post a stupid reply and ruin the thread."

Both the 1st and 2nd pages of this thread contain WM5 ROM threads, perhaps you could read them, discover the +'ves and -'ves of each one and decided for yourself?
Some people...

No, there's not.

I beg to differ
Just a few that caught my eye

See, That wasn't so hard. I was searching for threads with WM 5 in them, and non show up in the results.

Oooooo... that was a funky 5 minutes, eh??? Now now children, let's not upset the ROM builders

I am also very very curious about this human behavior:
People would ask before they think;
People would post questions and request for helps (and angry about not getting any help from perfectly strangers), when they do not want to invest their own time to read through the threads which contain the answers they have been looking for. Obviously, they prefer to waste other people's time...
The same questions have been answered over, and over, and over, and over, again, and again, and again, ...
Learn the lesson, RTFM (Read The F*** Manual), or RTFT (Read The F*** Threads), ...

Put your handbags away children.
It's not hard to look around a bit for information before asking - the layout is such that you can probably find what you want easily.
But coming back with a sh1tty reply is not helpful and doesn't add to the atmosphere of what is generally a good board.
That's my two-bob's worth. A bit of common sense and civility goes a long way. hehe.

Its been a long time since i've been part of this grate forum, i always use a search and 90% of the time i find thread or post which is relevent to my quary.
Search can be the best tool for some body if peoples know how to use it.

You know sometimes people tend to get nervous and impatient to look for something around!!
Then you only need to handle them with some kinda care huh? Needless to say a little time and bengo, there you'll find it. Just open up your eyes and look around dont be so spoon-fed!!

Seriously windowsrookie, educate yourself by looking through the universal topics on WM5, otherwise you'll probably screw up your machine when updating it anyway.
Spend a bit of time on it mate.

tyl said:
Seriously windowsrookie, educate yourself by looking through the universal topics on WM5, otherwise you'll probably screw up your machine when updating it anyway.
Spend a bit of time on it mate.
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Well said, tyl. A bit of research goes a long way... I foolishly upgraded my radio ROM before properly reading the boards and fried my universal. Totally pointless excercise since there was nothing wrong with the original ROM.
Lesson's don't have to be learnt the hard way

Geez, I can't believe we still get people like windowsrookie who goes around wasting people's time (let alone his own time). Seriously, just search, search and search!

It should be the case that a noob can't post until he's done so many searches ROFL!!! (look at my joining date!)
As a famous green guy once said... "You are young, but you will learn."

Plz Help

there are 5 kinds of WM6 upgrades.how do i know which one suites my hermes or at least which one is the best?
mine is still WM5,still new at this

i'm new to this as well. i chose the LVSW one.

bteljuice2 said:
there are 5 kinds of WM6 upgrades.how do i know which one suites my hermes or at least which one is the best?
mine is still WM5,still new at this
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The answer for this question have the same as for this other one "How do i know wath car is the best for me?"
Really you must read (lot of read) and then, if you are sure wath you are doing and wath you are looking for, take a test on every ROM....
Of course, Wiki http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes must be your starting point.
Regards.

bteljuice2 said:
there are 5 kinds of WM6 upgrades.how do i know which one suites my hermes or at least which one is the best?
mine is still WM5,still new at this
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jcespi2005 is right - you need to do a lot of reading. This will give you a feel for how stable a rom is and how muck tinkering you need to do to get what you want.
I'd recommend Black 2.0 - it's great and stable. Also the LSVW roms are great, but there were some reports on a White Screen problem for some people. I haven't tried Dutty's rom yet, and I'm eagerly waiting for Kyphurs WMXL0.3 which I also think will be very good.
I'd also recommend flashing Olipros HardSPL 1.40 before you begin because it will help you if you have any problems later.

I will reiterate what ach2 has said.
Read... a lot. Wiki, forums, etc.
Also, I would recommend Black, although others have their favorites.

WTF is with that title. did u read the rles on posting? did u search at all? did u read anything that has been posted? have u followed any thread at all?
this has been asked, answered, discussed, compered, contrasted and debated.
pick a phone, pick a rom. dont like the rom change it.
make up ur own... mind if u have one.
most importantly RTFW do the research. do ur home work. put some effort in.
change the heading on the forum.

Simon,
Wind your neck in mate - your post just makes you sound like you're some jumped up moron with an attitude problem.
There are much nicer ways to tell people that they've asked a stupid question and this is something that has been discussed on this particular forum...at length. Your post adds nothing to the thread apart from unnecessary vitriol and repeats what several other people posted before you - except that they were much nicer about it (and used things like capital letters and punctuation
Either drop the attitude and try and be a little more helpful or ignore posts like this and STFU.
Thanks.

Lordsmiff said:
Either drop the attitude and try and be a little more helpful or ignore posts like this and STFU.
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Cheers! Reason!
Anyway. It is a matter of trying them out and seeing what you like. Personally I started with WMXL 0.20 and am still on it. So I haven't found out what the other are like. I'll try Black 2.0, or 2.5 if its out by then , when WMXL 0.30 comes out. And if some required functionality isnt there, i'll go on to WMXL 0.30.
Basically. Read until your eyes just about fall out on HOW to upgrade. Then just pick whatever rom seems like a good idea at the time. The more important bit is making sure you do it right, then you can flash to a different one later (plenty of good info in the forums and on the wiki).
Maz
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With too much to say about anything and everything

the famous mr poleman posted this in 2003 and has represented the guiding light and rule on posting rules since that date.
Perhaps maybe somebody could make reference to it WHEN CREATING POSTING TITLES at least.
i express my deepest and most sincerest apologies to all those that i may have offended... i am simply just a little frustrated seeing these posts with nothing but useless headings like pls help or error and like.
so... if the be all and end all of postings could be followed since 2003 and applied to all since that date maybe i would be more helpful and less frusrated.... so for those that didnt know or didnt read perhaps a revisit
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=221545
lordsmiff i bow to your righteousness and will do as u ask when people start following the guidelines and rules that have applied since long b4 u or i ever got here but seemed to be disregarded.
btw i was nice just wait ill i am really upset. at the moment i have been on this forum for 2hrs after working 14hrs and i see topic headings like this. pls forgive me my grumpiness and intolerance. i am usually more helpful and just lost my patience.

We're all grumpy sometimes dude, me included - and I got told the same thing not too long ago ;-)
So not exactly righteous, more of spread-the-love thang ;-)
Join the light side - take the path of righteousness - spread the love!
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Oh, and to be a little more on topic, I've tried them all with no particular favourite, though I do like the LVSW one with the green skinned comm manager

Diamond ROM Dev - Soooo Confusing

Sorry to waste a thread but I guess I have a point here:
Coming from Hermes and then Kasier communities (and flashing hundreds of SPL/Radio/Rom on my Hermes & Kaiser for many months) I thought that at least I am able to upgrade HardSpl or Radio or Rom on any PDA.
Now I've got my Diamond and entering the Diamond Rom dev I feel as if I've entered a new website.
What's going on here ? Chefs and developers have teamed up together and are divided into various groups competing with each other. Diamond rom dev is not having the cooperative feeling of Kaisr community at all.
There's no unified (bipartisan) thread for HardSpl. Each group is saying that our HardSpl is the best.
I understand that different ROM developers make different roms. But what about HardSpl and Radio ?
ROM threads are turned to Stickys???
Isn't it something new to this community?
Even HardSPl threads (directly or indirectly) direct us to certain ROM dev teams.
Am I the only person confused here ?
What happened to the bipartisan Moderators ABOVE rom chefs ?
In fact, as far as I can see, Chefs have become Mods and this weakens the unified and bipartisan feel we used to see in Hermes or Kaiser ...etc. communities and throughout the entire xda forum.
Is it only me ? Are there any other confused members noticing that Diamond ROM Dev is taking an unusual direction?

I don't know how it was before, but i agree with you. Rom teams are popping like mushrooms and the threads keep getting bigger and bigger. For a newbie like mee i needed a couple of days just to read in to everything because of the lack of clearnes.
If the Rom Chefs just worked together and share idea's than this would be just great. Then it's also easier to make different languages. Now it salmost all the time WWE en nothing more because if someone wants to do that, they loose the competition of the fastest release.
Also the topic starts can be clearer. Enormous pictures, lettersize 18, etc.... does not help. I think there are some moderators needed here that restore order and are not Rom Chefs

you are right
i am "just" a junior member, but if you check my account you can see i am here for a "longer" time.
so..
i came here from ARTEMIS threads and i feel the same as you but i did not want to mention it as a "junior member"
Old, well known, clever and cool guys went mad here in this section..
i am not sure why.
it "threatens me" a little bit, makes a pressure on me (sorry for poor english, i hope you can understand me.) i feel a little bit unconfortable. something like that.
This is why i made an own ROM based on STOCKs (thanks for HardSPL, for everybody who dumped the ROMs, etc..) and useing tweakapps.
(i don't want to use names....):
As i can see the guys who are makeing the tweaking apps are ok, but some of the guys who are cooking the ROMs has changed in this section.
anyway: ALL RESPECT for those who make DIAMOND better!!!!

wontcachme said:
I don't know how it was before, but i agree with you. Rom teams are popping like mushrooms and the threads keep getting bigger and bigger. For a newbie like mee i needed a couple of days just to read in to everything because of the lack of clearnes.
If the Rom Chefs just worked together and share idea's than this would be just great. Then it's also easier to make different languages. Now it salmost all the time WWE en nothing more because if someone wants to do that, they loose the competition of the fastest release.
Also the topic starts can be clearer. Enormous pictures, lettersize 18, etc.... does not help. I think there are some moderators needed here that restore order and are not Rom Chefs
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I'm afraid my point was not about lack of multilanguage roms ...etc.
I do NOT even want chefs to work together and make a brilliant rom for ME. The beauty of any Free Society is in its competition , diversity and plurality.
My point was something else - well I guess i mentioned it in my post

Yea I agree . I have been on these forums a while and this is a bit messy and I guess very daunting if you are a newbie.
1) Please Sticky the ROM Threads
2) Please sticky the RADIO Threads
3) Please Sticky the SPL Threads
Oh and please, please, please, lets start pulling our resources together . I love to try out all the ROMS and if we share our knowledge aren't we in a better position to get what we al want . The Pefect ROM !!
I know I'll probably get shot down in flames for this and my software dev knowledge you can right on a postage stamp but I do know about winning teams.

Bardia Garsha said:
Is it only me ? Are there any other confused members noticing that Diamond ROM Dev is taking an unusual direction?
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You are not alone.

I Agree...

absolutely agree.
personally i'd like to see one thread of hard-spls instead of 4 haha.. its quite cluttered..

Hear die well
You got another yes behind your remarks- Said but true.
I started with XDA Trion - Moved to TytnII and was pretty happy with the set directions- Mod support -bashing of newbies (myself included).
The Diamond ROM forum is "different":
- Not enough Mod's to have a closer look on garbage posted (Oliver- Mark...you do have my PM's )
- A lot of Newcomer's on the Diamond- a lot of reduntant threads.
- INDEED, confusing HardSPL - ROM signed vs. non signed messages. Pointed out the (smallest) finger to the Chefs already - But hey, we need them! So let's not complain - Competition is not bad bewtween them.
I called it already the "War of the Chefs" in a thread , so let us benefit of it though....---> TOO MANY Roms with mostly spin-off's of one build
I saw a message on BePe's thread from a guy asking for less ROM's but Final ones with bug's sorted out. For sure, no one is forced to Flash anyway, but it just fill's the thread's with 100.000.000 time WOW -Downloading now ! etc.
I believe that it is our duty as older dweilers to support the chefs in terms of newcomers direction set-up. They cook, we taste, we give feedback - advice and we don't ask for too much, cause it is free.
Anyway, again, I follow your reasoning and do hope first of all to see better Mod support on the Diamond forum. I know the guys are under-manned, so they should maybe look into a few new mod's (my time zone is very favorable to clean dirt between Australia and Birmingham - tip)
Cheerio
I do believe that we are only at the beginning of a Forum which will grow a LOT seeing the possibilites the Diamond can offer.

Bardia Garsha said:
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agreed. i started with Artemis, then TYTNII, now Diamond... and i have to say the Diamond part of the forums is a whole new beast

too many roms, so little time, are people forgetting that they purchased their devices so they can be used... its turning out that they are just being flashed constantly on a daily basis.
back in the hermes days, when roms were developed, updated roms would generally be released on a monthly basis after feedback was collected from peoples experiences with the current rom.
i still peek over here now and then to see whats up and it is a bit of a mess.
well, if the diamond forum is a mess, the touch pro will even be worse once wm7 beta is avail for it.

btw. im waiting for the touch pro and will be developing roms for it, but not wm6.1 roms as the kernel and OS itself is a pos.

I think the problem is the lack of structure. It's hard to tell which rom is new from which dev group. Everything is mixed up. A couple of rom devs started to put the date in front of a post with a new rom. I think that's the first step in the good direction.

Hmmm....
Listening........!

where are the mods
we need someone to tidy the forum up

ceevee369 said:
You got another yes behind your remarks- Said but true.
- INDEED, confusing HardSPL - ROM signed vs. non signed messages. Pointed out the (smallest) finger to the Chefs already
I believe that it is our duty as older dweilers to support the chefs in terms of newcomers direction set-up. They cook, we taste, we give feedback -
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haven't we been doing this in Kaiser & other communities ? just look how attentively we (as a little bit more senior members) try to reply and solve brand-new n00bs in other threads.
this thread is different. how can i help a n00b when i myself am too confused what HardSpl to flash ?
this seems to be the beginnig of a commercial rom movement. it's not mentioned directly anywhere, but throught the whole thread I can hear this loud & clear :
We left things complicated , jumbled and unclear so that if you want to know what the whole thing is about , you pay for it.
I tried to seach "How to Hard Reset Diamond" for an hour. couldn't find anything. it's my personal feeling : it's beginning to get commercial.
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personally i'd like to see one thread of hard-spls instead of 4 haha.. its quite cluttered..
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everybody like to see that. But don't you think there's a reason behind this confusion?
Unlike all the other threads, there's an apparent lack of Authoritative Voice in diamond thread.

i coul'dnt agree more, this forum so so messed up.
Even DEV-teams has split an releasing roms as team members of that dev-team, and another member of that team is filling that thread with content...WHUUUTT, i cant explain it properly so hard is it to understand.
I think we need mods to take control and tidy things up a bit.
My vision of the ideal Diamond forum
Sticky:
- SPL's(soft, hard), just one, not a dev and a signed.(al spl's work great so why have many of them)
- Radio's(thread starter sums them up in order of release date and build number)
- Rulez of engagement for everyone who want to post here
Rest:
- For each rom dev team(or single person) one thread with rom info and downloads and the thread title started with a date.
- For questions and such, search first and then ask(NOOBS)
Ill inform some mods here.
gr

If you've ever been in Kaiser's forum then you'll know what's the diff between many versions of SPL. I dont' see why it has to be one SPL only if others make some differences. JockyW2001 knows better. He's been cracking and modifying SPL versions for Kaisers' users. It doesn't mean that Oli is not a good developer. He's the one who started it. Only that now we have our options. It's not their fault if noobs get into trouble trying to understand all of the purposes.Do you know why? Laziness is not tolerable. Lazy to read...Lazy to search...bla..bla..bla...
Yeah! I like this forum clean but not to the extend of " You should not develope any alternative for us! We already have one here!" Now, go to Kaiser Forum and read. Go to Hermes forum and read. Go to other forums and read. This is XDA-Developers Site
Sorry, I said what I want to say.
Cyphol.

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where are the mods
we need someone to tidy the forum up
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No-one has reported that it is needed.
I am willing to do the job, but I do not have a Diamond and will need some input as to what should be deleted, kept, stickied or whatever the case may be.

P1Tater said:
No-one has reported that it is needed.
I am willing to do the job, but I do not have a Diamond and will need some input as to what should be deleted, kept, stickied or whatever the case may be.
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Maybe a good topic to discuss "downstairs" first..
Isn't there a dedicated mod for the diamond-forums?
Or aren't there dedicated mods for the forums?

hi there - new backgrounds

hi there and Happy new year..
I have found this forum and i am pretty happy for i find it a usefull forum with happy HTC users...
i have look allover to find more people that share all kinds of stuff...
i was looking for few things and i could not find it anywhere...
I am very new here as you can see this is my very first post...
i have a yahoo id if you guys want 2 cool home modified backgrounds... let me know i'll find a way to post them.
if you need more art work to be done i am willing to help out in exchange of software. i can create/change any gif/png/jpg. i can make custom backgrounds. so.. let me know
i don't know to much about HTC TYTN - Hermes - what is the best Windows 6...? or ROM ???
thanks in advance.

crossroads777 said:
i don't know to much about HTC TYTN - Hermes - what is the best Windows 6...? or ROM ???
thanks in advance.
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Welcome to the board. You gotta be careful of that question. You have like 30 chefs on here and you're probably going to get flamed for not researching. I guess the best way to decide which ROM is the best is to decide what you want to use your device for. Then start reading. Or you could cook your own. Before I started cooking, I used JoshKoss, CRC, Mick Smith's. They are all good. Just read my friend.

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Welcome to the board. You gotta be careful of that question. You have like 30 chefs on here and you're probably going to get flamed for not researching. I guess the best way to decide which ROM is the best is to decide what you want to use your device for. Then start reading. Or you could cook your own. Before I started cooking, I used JoshKoss, CRC, Mick Smith's. They are all good. Just read my friend.
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thanks a lot for teh fast response.. i read so much .. i just don't know much about phones running windows.. i am not trying to do anything wrong.. i am asking because i need to understand... th principle.. names.. pls help .. where should i look for some answers.. i am a fast learner.. i prommise...
do you mind if i asking you if you have a yahoo id? so you can help me better and faster pls.. thanks in advance

crossroads777 said:
thanks a lot for teh fast response.. i read so much .. i just don't know much about phones running windows.. i am not trying to do anything wrong.. i am asking because i need to understand... th principle.. names.. pls help .. where should i look for some answers.. i am a fast learner.. i prommise...
do you mind if i asking you if you have a yahoo id? so you can help me better and faster pls.. thanks in advance
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WHOA WHOA slow down you over-achiever. Take a deep breath. Now, this should be your first read. It has a BUNCH of info. The site has a WIKI also that answers a ton of stuff. Yes, I have a Yahoo ID. It's in my signature, just send an invite.

lol...yes indeed. Your question is almost begging to be flamed. Though you may also get lucky and get away with it Like the above poster said there isn't anything like a specific 'best' ROM for a phone. Its a personal preference. The wiki is an excellent place for you to get started on getting to understand everything you need to know about you phone. Use the search option for any question you have. Your bound to find relevant results on almost any type of search. Happy reading and welcome to the board.

Imyman said:
lol...yes indeed. Your question is almost begging to be flamed. Though you may also get lucky and get away with it Like the above poster said there isn't anything like a specific 'best' ROM for a phone. Its a personal preference. The wiki is an excellent place for you to get started on getting to understand everything you need to know about you phone. Use the search option for any question you have. Your bound to find relevant results on almost any type of search. Happy reading and welcome to the board.
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sorry guys,, newbees fault...
after i got the first answer i have found teh WIKI.. no bad intentions here...
i just saw so many ROMS... and i hardly know what they are.. just now trying to find out.. somebody enlighten me pls..
i am reading, reading..
thanks..

Start with CRC's rom.. good, fast, stable

This cant be flamed, BTW!!!! this can be great apreciatted.
I meet many designers and has magic on their hands (and HD's full of tricks on photoshop's projects!) well if you want to start... you can talk with joshkoss, CRC, abuzalsa and many others... cause at this time they are trying to change some icons in .PNG and .ICO full glossy pics maybe 32 x 32 or less like the Notification Icons in upper bar... so talk to him about your skills maybe you can give us new Icons or something... read about the images on the ROMS... what extension, or what kind, sizes, and wheigts...
Hope you can find your work here.

Take care of your cooks

You know. I was always wondering why developers suddenly stop with roms or programs. They can have family or personal reasons like being very busy with work or with whatever.
But there are more reasons why developers stop with cooking roms and/or programs. I've seen this before on other forums where developers stopped. Like with "Todayplus" some years ago.Same reason.
Here's the other reason
Just a suggestion though to others, take care of cooks you still have here (ex: pcarvalho).Signs of encouragement help, less demanding in threads as if they owe you something, and every now and then donate enough to keep them motivated.
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As the cooker explaing this has nothing to do with donations.I think the above is very true.Demanding is very "deadly" in every case.
Think about it!

I agree there seems to be a sense of entitlement to people who are using the ROMs.
The good chefs here cook how they feel they want to and offer it to you. If you want something changed, learn to cook yourself.
The OP is absolutely right if we start mistreating anyone or bark out orders, they will stop.

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The OP is absolutely right if we start mistreating anyone or bark out orders, they will stop.
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Hi
I wrote the OP. The quote I used was from a cook I read and this start making me think. Resulted in this thread.So he was right. I only spread his word

Sadly, this attitude is not new and not unique to these 'rom cookers' either. Coming from an Open Source background, you must see the number of demands that are made of our project/members.. even when *we* offer free support and help as well as software.

I like to kick this thread once in a while to make you aware of the subject. Since it is important if you like see the new ROM's keep coming up.

i would like to also make note of the fact that not a lot of user will download a rom by a new cook. this is a bit unfair since although the rom that has been made may not be the best it still took a lot of hard work to create
the reason im highlighting this is because i think it important to try out roms from nrew cooks and let them know how its gewtting on in terms of performance wise let them know whats wrong with it and were it could be improved
ok now ill use an example
when i posted my rom i got a few downloaders who try it out but all of one reply
this reply consisted of badmouthing my rom
then i got one who said it was actually fast
so basically the first poster on the thread about my rom wasnt being very nice and id like to thank hendrixus for letting people this is a problem
also as far as my last post went
sorry if it confused the op into thinking i was calling him a dent
i wasnt talking bout this threasd but my own

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im more inclined to take the advice from the second poster but the first poter was a bit of a dent
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That's because I smoke a Cigar right?

-PiLoT- said:
im more inclined to take the advice from the second poster but the first poter was a bit of a dent
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[offtopic]
What a nice compliment, thanks.
btw I don't smoke at all
English is not my native. You probely speak better dutch then I do English [/offtopic]
Nevertheless.People do agree to what I wrote. But I still find posters demand the cooks, who ask the same questions over-and-over again. They don't search, nor read (faqs) to find the answers which are there.
They just "hop-in" and start asking. Like we are the HTC's helpdesk which we arn't.

I noticed the following for some time.
Even when a app is discontinued people keep on "talking" to the programmer, even when he hasn't been on the forum for a year or so. Asking for bugfixes and new features.
It is not only ridiculious, but pathetic too. Those who are doing so are not only newbies but also seniors. At least they should know better

oh crap i think ive just totally confused you all when i was reffering to the first poster being a dent and me wanting to believe the scond one
i was talking about my own rom thread. when i posted my rom in the thread for it the first poster just labelled it a piece of crap even though i said it was my first the second poster was a bit nicer
i wasnt talking bout you guys