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Hey guys,
I finally got my 2nd hermes flashed the way I wanted it when I realized the camera wasn't being recognized. After trying other roms which also had the same issue, I decided to try the windows mobile that came with it. Installed it back and sure enough, no camera. So I have a new phone coming through the warranty exchange. I have the original radio and os on it, however I still have the Opri bootloader on it. Is there a way to flash that back as well? Will they even look that deep into the phone? When the get it back if the determine the phone to be 'out of warranty' due to whatever reason, they charge you $495...
Thanks,
nomb
Wow, 61 views and no one has any suggestions?
...JS..
I've had to get new phone through the warranty exchange due to not being able to make calls, but could receive them. I had flashed numerous roms, but managed to get it back to original. Didn't have original radio on it though, and heard nothing from them. I'm not sure how deep they dig, but if they missed the radio, they musted go to far.
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=59&Itemid=27
This mentions how to downgrade the SPL however I don't think it is too much of an issue.
at least you have a few responses!!
Thanks guys. I will hopefully be able to get the bootloader back down, and then it will be fully back to normal. Guess what tho. I got my new hermes in the mail today, and it was messed up and wouldn't let you put the stylus in it... After like 2 hours and numerous calls and a lot of frustration, I'm getting a free keiser!!! woot!!!
nomb
I had a similar issue this week.
My phone died, it lost the radio rom and nothing I could do would get it to function as a phone again. Though I was sure they wouldn't be happy getting a phone back to be repaired under warranty that had been flashed.
I couldn't downgrade the boot loader, but I did manage to get the original ROM on it with some jiggery pokery. It wouldn't take any rom with a radio rom included. So took the radio rom out of the original operators release and it took that no worries. Now when powered up it had the operators splash screen but then came up NO GSM.
They must have liked it as I got a brand new handset yesterday, not a refurb. So guess what I will be doing later.........flash flash flash.
I don't think they look that deeply at them, probably see if it will power up, then try to cure all ill's by flashing it with the latest operator ROM.
Always suspected they didn't look to deep. Probably get loads returned from people flashing etc. Interesting if we could get someone on board who actually works there and get their response
Background: Very familiar with the Eris, rooted it, flash ROMs frequently, never had an issue.
So I bought the phone on eBay, only issue was the phone was a bit beat up and the screen had been replaced. No big deal. Turned it on everything was fine, worked for about a day, then I decided to flash another ROM. Flashed the ROM and the phone would reboot every time I got to the lock screen UNLESS I had signal, then it would work. This issue happens to EVERY ROM I flash. I wiped cache,dvlik-orwhatever, full wipe, everything each time I would flash a ROM, and none of them have been stable. After flashing the first ROM I also ran into the turn off and vibrate 5 times with a flashing green light problem. I have gotten out of this twice with the USB pull method. I have researched these issues, I have tried flashing quite a few ROMs, and nothing seems to work flawlessly. Is the DI just a terrible phone or do I just have a bad unit? The main issue seems to be with signal, such as if I go from airplane mode on to off it will reboot and then get stuck in a boot cycle and the issue with flashing the phone and having to have signal before I can unlock the phone.
I am currently about to flash the PB31IMG to see if it will resolve the issues and then attempt to re-root. Any advice would be greatly appreciated as nothing has seemed to work so far. I would key you into what I have tried but I don't remember. Basically all the things to fix the 5 vibrate issue and general flashing woes.
Update:
Still no good. Flashed the PB31IMG via vol. down and power and it still did a reboot. Unlocked, got to the white HTC screen, and restarted. Booted the second time, got to the lockscreen, and rebooted before I could even slide down the unlock. Third reboot, got to activation this time, then it rebooted. Fourth reboot, go to activation, then rebooted. Fifth reboot, got to lockscreen, then rebooted before I could slide down.
So yeah. basically you can see what I am dealing with. And it is not fun. I have tried SD card in, SD card out. Just did its 6th reboot, didnt even get to the unlock screen before rebooting.
UPDATE 5/3:
Link to the video of whats happening. Nothing special and I recorded it with my Eris, but you'll at least see the timing of the reboots and what not. And ignore the breathing. lol. Just turn off the sound. Right after the video ended it did a 5 vibe. Pulled the battery and now it's just doing bootloops.
I have never had the random reboots before, at least not at the rate and consistency you have been. To me it sounds like something went wrong in the rooting process and I would recommend unrooting and rerooting.
As for the flashing green light and 5 vibrates, I have so insight on this. It can happen if you press power and Vol+. I think it puts it in a safety mode and the only way to get out of it is a battery pull. So if you ever get stuck in a situation like this wait 10 minutes and try to turn it back on normally. If this doesn't work try booting into hboot (power + vol down) if this doesn't work power + vol up has worked for some people too.
There are cases however, where battery pulls don't help either. And no matter what the person tries the phone won't turn back on. This is a hardware problem and the only way to fix this is getting a new phone.
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I have never had the random reboots before, at least not at the rate and consistency you have been. To me it sounds like something went wrong in the rooting process and I would recommend unrooting and rerooting.
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Would flashing the PB13IMG in Hboot unroot it or would I need to follow the guide? Just curious as I have never unrooted before, but I do know there is a guide for it.
The 5 vibrate thing is under control, it just has happened so I wanted to make it known.
And thanks for the info.
I would follow the guide for it, it would be the easiest and safest way and if you run into any problems they would be able to help you out and know exactly what to tell you. I have yet to unroot too so I don't want to tell you something without being 100% sure so I recommend the guide.
Alright, so it turns out flashing the image I flashed via Hboot is a way to unroot. :/ And that is when I got all the reboots in the beginning (the ones specifically posted, its not the first time). I am going to flash again once more to see if I can get a flawless start.
Still no good, flashed it again via Hboot and it restarted again. This timeat the white HTC screen after unlocking but before activation. :? Hm. Better than nothing, after the first reboot it fully loaded and everything is fine so far. Lets just home it doesn't slowly begin to degrade like last time.
A while ago while running the peanut stock ROM, every time my phone would reboot some apps would loose information (such as log in) and I was eventually unable to access the EPST settings.
If you rerooted your phone you could try to go into hboot and then recovery and "fix permissions." I am not sure if this will do any good but it couldn't hurt.
Also if it is unrooted you could try to bring it in to Verizon and see if they will give you a new phone or a restored one.
Make sure you have the stock Rom if you bring it back to Verizon also
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sorry to hear this happened on an ebay phone... I've had it happen to 3 of mine... warranty took care of it since I'm still within my date. but after one year what do I do? luckily I bought my bros early upgrade meaning the Inc2 will suffice until april 2012
ohh yea my point sorry: I had an Eris before the Inc. //////had many problems after 5 they gave me the Inc if I agreed to drop my current one year contract and get a new two year paying the two year price PLUS got credited $199 for the Eris, and got to keep it, so I thought I made out until I realized this phone isn't gunna last two years. ANYWAY. I bought the Eris off Ebay, they gave me warranty after warranty no problem, best of luck
I have had my Inc for a year and have not had any issues. I would say you bought a bad model from someone on eBay. The 5vibration green light is indicative of a hardware failure and I have not seen anyone have a fix for it.
Sorry to say but I have seen no one, NO ONE recovery from the 5 vibs of death. From what I have gathered it is some sort of qualcomm download mode and I know of no way out. I have a feeling it is caused by pressing the vol + and vol - and power while trying to get into hboot.
This is just an uneducated guess. If your willing to part with the device I would love to get my hands on a 5 vibs phone.
Since it happens when the phone loses the signal, I'm wondering if it might be a radio issue. Which radio version is installed? It could be incompatible for your area/ROM/whatever.
Another thought: you said the screen was changed out. It is very possible that the kernal installed won't work for an lcd screen.
Anyway, more things to check and to test. Good luck!
mine always happened when i accidently pushed the vol + instead of vol -
twice it happened
ACD168 said:
mine always happened when i accidently pushed the vol + instead of vol -
twice it happened
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That should be 3 vibs, not the 5.
they both won't work after wards thought as far as my testing.. had to get warranty replacements
I remember reading Chingy fixed 5 vib. It's not the end. I've seen other people fix it with ruu.
I couldnt fix mine when I got the 5 vibrations and I tried everything. My theory is that it has something to do with a messed up kernel flash since the baseband and kernel are apparently linked and I saw somewhere that flashing the same baseband 2x will cause this. It happened to me when I tried to flash a kernel twice (the first time it failed), some people could be getting this when flashing roms since they install new kernels also.
You can flash radios and kernals twice. There was one leaked radio in the past that caused problems from being flashed twice, but it isn't typical
Edit: I think chingy said something about trying a hundred different things, but eventually he got it to work by connecting to PC with battery removed. I could be wrong though because I read that post months ago. I know he got it working again by wiping system and starting fresh
I had the 5 vibs on mine a few weeks ago. It was an unfortunate event. I had the phone for almost a year, bought it new too. I had probably flashed at least a hundred times (thank you nighties for feeding my ROM flashing addiction) but I digress.
I was at work when it happened. If I remember right I believe I was re-installing a pandora apk when my phone did the vibs and led. As an fyi it is the same apk I am using now and it works fine. I initially thought oh well I'll fix it when I get home, surely someone has the answer...sadly not. I spent quite a while searching threads and google to no avail.
I was able to get it unrooted through hboot tho. I was also able to get it to boot when usb was connected to my PC, but as soon as I unplugged it would do the vibs again.
I don't like to admit defeat, but I had clearly lost. I called and got a replacement device sent (and an extended battery because the guy thought it could have been a battery issue, lucky me)
All I can do now is hope it doesn't happen again, but if it does hello warranty man. If someone does find a fix I would love to know about it for future reference.
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I had the 5 vibs on mine a few weeks ago. It was an unfortunate event. I had the phone for almost a year, bought it new too. I had probably flashed at least a hundred times (thank you nighties for feeding my ROM flashing addiction) but I digress.
I was at work when it happened. If I remember right I believe I was re-installing a pandora apk when my phone did the vibs and led. As an fyi it is the same apk I am using now and it works fine. I initially thought oh well I'll fix it when I get home, surely someone has the answer...sadly not. I spent quite a while searching threads and google to no avail.
I was able to get it unrooted through hboot tho. I was also able to get it to boot when usb was connected to my PC, but as soon as I unplugged it would do the vibs again.
I don't like to admit defeat, but I had clearly lost. I called and got a replacement device sent (and an extended battery because the guy thought it could have been a battery issue, lucky me)
All I can do now is hope it doesn't happen again, but if it does hello warranty man. If someone does find a fix I would love to know about it for future reference.
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I think the 3, vibrate and 5 vibrate are connected because both times I had the 3 vib I had the same problems, would turn on when connected to usb then 3 vib and green flashing light... weird.
Hello dear friends!
HTC let me down Kind of stupid phones indeed at least desire...
I have my phone for quite a time now, it is rooted with unrewoked, clockwork recovery and s-on. I flashed many different roms in the past and everything was brilliant. In a pas half-a-year or so I stayed with only one ROM - MIUI-Au. I kept updating it to the newer versions and so on and on. Never had any random reboot or something. At least maybe it was because of some strange app or something else. But now it started to reboot randomly and constantly!
Phone gets hot abit and it just reboots, and never comes to android homescreen again, until I put out the battery, hold it for few minutes, pop it back and then it boots. But as soon as start to play music, or run a game the phone gets hot abit and reboots again. and so on and on. I thought maybe it was a miui issue. So I tried to flash different roms, but guess what? None of the even boot! The main screen shows and with the same second it bootloops again and forever!... (
Even from recovery it sometimes reboots randomly. So i managed somehow to flash my miui back and it at least boots. But it is very unstable now, I barely can use my phone now
PLEASE WHO CAN HELP ME????
My warranty probably out of date, and my phone is rooted, I dont think HTC would accept it...
any thoughts? friends?
What have you set the CPU max to?
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Thank you for response! Appreciate, really!! I didn't set it, I left everything by default I think! Because as i said, i even tried flashing different roms, not only miui.
What else could be? By the way, with stock froyo rom If I remember correctly, sometimes it became extremely hot, but I didnt get any reboots from that. But now, it gets just a little bit hot and it seems that this causes the reboot...
Now what I just noticed, I get reboots even when the phone is idle. And it is not even warm!
If its not getting hot then I'm confused lol. It sounds like a actual hardware fault. Sorry I can't help with this one
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cluendo said:
My warranty probably out of date, and my phone is rooted, I dont think HTC would accept it...
any thoughts? friends?
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try and get it taken back to stock if you dare.
The phone hasn't been out 2 years yet, which is how long the warranty is.
Thank you! But is there any possibility to fix it without HTC involvement? Maybe it is not hardware issue ? Can it be because phone is rooted and I flashed many roms to it ? I didnt try AOSP roms since reboots started, I will try to pop in Cyanogenmod or other and see if I will get reboots.
Would rerooting my phone and updating my recovery fix the problem?
and Note: yesterday I tried to S-OFF my phone, but I can't even do that with my unstable MIUI. It rebooted in the middle of the process..
I had a similar problem, apparently it's not uncommon on the early revisions. I sent mine to HTC and they replaced the mainboard.
Thank you for answer! But what if my phone is bought through a contractor?
Can just call HTC and ask the for repair? Or should I contact my contractor first ?
Just give them a call and they will try to help you out. I had a very good customer service experience with them when my desire had some issues.
They will require a proof of purchase though. If you managed to get the receipt from your "contractor" (I am unsure what you mean by a contractor), then there should be no problem.
Sorry for misleading word, I meant T-Mobile. I bought my phone under contract. I think I have a receipt. I even have whole box and stuff of the phone somewhere in my drawer.(just sayin ). So how is customer service of HTC? Poor, good ? I heard you need to tell them that you did a factory reset and that didn't help. Is that true. Also if I will unroot my phone, will they know it was rooted anyhow?
Ahhh....this overheating issue seems common. How they can release faulty phones?? No clue.
thanks for answers mates!
In Singapore, HTC service is really good. Phone was still under warranty.
It took me just one (real) call to confirm a repair order. The first call I was just checking to see what options were available to me.
The second call was an actual repair request. And the third call was me pestering them for a pickup date. heehee
In Singapore, repairs were done via courier. They picked it up and 1 working day later, they sent it back.
Naturally, you will probably need to impress upon them that you tried everything to fix your phone (which I hope you did which includes proving to yourself that it's not the ROMs fault).
You will definitely need to reset everything back to zero. In my case, I downloaded an RUU to totally reset everything back to STOCK, which included removing clockworkmod recovery. You WILL need to create a goldcard for this though so bear in mind that it's not exactly a case of a simple flashing procedure. At least not if you don't already have a goldcard.
Sorry if I overread it at some point, but you speculated at the beginning there could be some faulty app causing this, but you never meantioned performing a full wipe. Have you full wiped yet? Just to make sure it is indeed no software problem.
greets
Thank you for your answers. At the moment I have SuperNova classic ROM. ( 2.3.3 + Sense 2.1) But my phone crashes again and again, it is so annoying and causes me so much trouble.
I never tried a reset or unroot and return to original rom. Im just wondering now, would this help to remove or at least remove those reboots?
Today I was in my work and i was keeping my phone in my jeans pocket. it got hot as u would expect when keeping in pocket and suddenly it rebooten, then it went into a bootloop and started to bootloop 7 times in a row quickly. then again and again. It became very hot at that time.
For the interest, what exact hardware faults causes these reboots and why phone gets even hotter if you keep it on boot loop. If I keep phone cold, the rom usualy stays normal, without reboots. but as soon as I start using my phone, texting or calling for at least 5minutes of using it just reboots.
as I said- really annoying thing :S
I remember my happy times with miui, apps and no reboots Was fun!
cheers for helping!
I would give full wipe / factory reset a chance, and maybe RUU.
At least try it before sending phone to htc.
It is hardware problem, search forum. Fresh ROM without SD card, enabled WIFI and GPS, running G navigation, back of the phone is warm - restart after few minutes.
Maybe someone know how to read info form the phone right before reset? We could understand why the phone is reseting and hopefully add some patch.
Reboot-loop experience
Hey,
i had the same problem over the last few months: In the beginning my phone restarted only when it got hot, but it got worse over the last few weeks, in the end i was not able to use two apps at the same time (music and mytracks) or even to surf the internet longer than a few minutes. The problem did noticeably decrease when the phone was cool - tested by putting it on a fan or in the fridge. Yet, Skype was regularly killing it. As i really love my phone (and especially the AMOLED-Screen!) i did not want to resign. The battery cover contains some metal which is supposed to enhance heat dissipation - so i attached a little thermal pad to the hotter bottom of the phone to improve contact with the head spreader. Unfortunately it did not entirely fix the problem. Yes, it improved the situation a little, but it got even worse after a week or two - in the end i had to turn it in.
So i decided to take it to the Telekom-Shop. They were very kind and told me they would call the other day to confirm that the replacement would have been shipped. It took a few days longer, but i got a phone with the AMOLED-Screen! The employee said it was a used mainboard in a new case, completely refurbished. They only replaced the main unit, i kept the battery, sd-card, charger and so on. Now i have a working Desire again!
Terminator
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Hi i on the other hand have similar problem, qiute anoying one, my desire, cm7 hboot, s-off, insert coin cm7 rom, have phone freezing in diferent situations, sometimes its working sometimes just freezez and i need to get battery out and turn it one and sometimes several times in row to get it working again???? RUU and go to give phone in service? plaese advice?
@cp6ija Sandisk SD card? If yes, smash it.
nvm
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I couldn't turn on wifi anymore, the switch stayed greyed out and 1 out of ten times i could switch it on it kept giving the message "turning on wifi". The phone got really hot on the backside next to the camera lens so i send it for repair (Dynafix - Netherlands) now my gnex is repaired and they did a "boardswap" (?) this means that they replaced the whole motherboard? Is this a good thing? An second question, could the wifi module be defect because of flashing roms?
Thanks very much
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I couldn't turn on wifi anymore, the switch stayed greyed out and 1 out of ten times i could switch it on it kept giving the message "turning on wifi". The phone got really hot on the backside next to the camera lens so i send it for repair (Dynafix - Netherlands) now my gnex is repaired and they did a "boardswap" (?) this means that they replaced the whole motherboard? Is this a good thing? An second question, could the wifi module be defect because of flashing roms?
Thanks very much
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Yes they likely replaced the whole motherboard.
No, roms should not harm your wifi module.
Overclocking and excess heat might be able to though.
Flashing ROMs normally doesn't do anything to the motherboard, itself, but if flashing the wrong radios, or installing the wrong drivers could cause such a problem...
But as long as the phone is working, all is good, don't you think?
If you ask me, I do it this way:
(This is an example only). Phone broke, phone bootloops, with stock ROM, flashing a new ROM won't help, I phone my carrier, I get a replacement, if I don't like the device anymore, I phone again, say the device I got is also defect, I get a new phone of my choice, for free...
I have had to do this twice (hTC 7 pro and Samsung Galaxy S II, yet the GS II was really defect, so was the 7 pro), now I've got a GNexus, it won't boot, doesn't show up, at all, neither as OMAP, or anything. I could probably JTAG it, but as I regret buying the phone, because I miss the button, and I don't want to risk the same think happening, I phoned up my carrier, I'm getting a GS 3 on Friday...
(I will still help with GNex problems, though)
Thanks for your answers, very clear! By reading this i think i broke it myself because for a while i had an older radio with a ics 4.0.4 rom but i can't recall the exact time wifi died on me. Well.... my gnex is fixed for free (warrenty) a little more reading before flashing Thanks again for the answers!
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Flashing ROMs normally doesn't do anything to the motherboard, itself, but if flashing the wrong radios, or installing the wrong drivers could cause such a problem...
But as long as the phone is working, all is good, don't you think?
If you ask me, I do it this way:
(This is an example only). Phone broke, phone bootloops, with stock ROM, flashing a new ROM won't help, I phone my carrier, I get a replacement, if I don't like the device anymore, I phone again, say the device I got is also defect, I get a new phone of my choice, for free...
I have had to do this twice (hTC 7 pro and Samsung Galaxy S II, yet the GS II was really defect, so was the 7 pro), now I've got a GNexus, it won't boot, doesn't show up, at all, neither as OMAP, or anything. I could probably JTAG it, but as I regret buying the phone, because I miss the button, and I don't want to risk the same think happening, I phoned up my carrier, I'm getting a GS 3 on Friday...
(I will still help with GNex problems, though)
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What? installing the wrong drivers on your computer has nothing to do with the motherboard on your phone. My HTC drivers don't affect my nexus, why would they? Flashing a radio won't hurt the motherboard either. It may disable the wifi but it won't physically break the motherboard.
Okay I recently wrote a thread about the random restrarts on my g3 that happened 10 times a day, but the things have gone too far. As i was having random restarts when I monstly use the camera but not only for about 5 days and some of those restarts were also shutdowns now the problem is more serious. Today i was intending to take a picture of something and as usual the phone restarted but STUCK on the startup boot "picture" that says that lifes good and then goes black screen and startup picture and black screen and so on. I wasn't able to use the phone. I pulled out the battery and tried again but it didn't worked. So as I went home i plugged the phone ot the charger and when i powered it on it started normally and tried to take pictures and there weren't any problems. So I think that this is the battery that is making this **** to happen. I highly doubt that this is software problem but from my quick examination i think that the problem is from the battery . What do You think. Tommorow i will go to my carrier and "ll try to explain them about this. But they are usually jerks who don't know anything about phones. They only know how to get your money.Anyways. Yes.
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Okay I recently wrote a thread about the random restrarts on my g3 that happened 10 times a day, but the things have gone too far. As i was having random restarts when I monstly use the camera but not only for about 5 days and some of those restarts were also shutdowns now the problem is more serious. Today i was intending to take a picture of something and as usual the phone restarted but STUCK on the startup boot "picture" that says that lifes good and then goes black screen and startup picture and black screen and so on. I wasn't able to use the phone. I pulled out the battery and tried again but it didn't worked. So as I went home i plugged the phone ot the charger and when i powered it on it started normally and tried to take pictures and there weren't any problems. So I think that this is the battery that is making this **** to happen. I highly doubt that this is software problem but from my quick examination i think that the problem is from the battery . What do You think. Tommorow i will go to my carrier and "ll try to explain them about this. But they are usually jerks who don't know anything about phones. They only know how to get your money.Anyways. Yes.
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Are you rooted? Did you flash anything? Did you edit any system files? Looks exactly like when I bricked my phone. There is a fix. Check out this thread and the links in it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/help/lg-g3-unbricking-steps-clarification-t3119844
Also can you access download mode or recovery. You might want to try them first.
No I havent rooted it or made any system modifications. This problem occurs only when my phone isnt charging. When iits charging even at 100% there isnt any problem
I've gone to my stupid carriers office and explained everything but they do not want to give me a new battery unless they bring the phone to the other end of the country for repair. This is extremely stupid. Now I can't use my phone because its totally "bricked". I xan only use it with my original dc charger if i unplug it the phone shuts off. Yesterday Ive decided to make a factory reset, but i wanted to copy my internal storage to my pc, but the phone won't turn on when its plugged to the pc. I don't know what the **** is happening with this 500 piece of pancake.
well i have finally decided to do a factory reset but after the anticipation and thinking it is a software problem it isn't apparently. Maybe i will just send it to repair and hope that i wait less than 20 days for it to come back. And i hope that they don't figure out the problem and send a new phone but i think it is the battery that is the problem. Anyways the modern technologys are the most incredible thing and the most getting you pissed of one. You pay 500 dollars+ and expect something good and there you go .
So did you do factory reset or not?
Btw, getting phone to repair center is a good decision, they'll see what's wrong.
I have been happy with my G3, only "minor" thing I don't like is the horrible backspeaker (coming from HTC One m7)