Pedestrian Questions, but need answers - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Hey Everyone,
I am trying to nail this down. Do I need to do the Hard SPL for my CDMA TP2? If the answer is yes, I can go from there. I have upgraded recently from my Mogul (tytn II) and didn't have to (if memory serves) bother with this process to flash ROMs.
My second question: I've seen alot of post about a ROM "cooker" (I can't remember the actual title) it basically looks like a GUI based ROM creator. Does this mean I can de-construct and mash up my on ROMs?
I'm sorry if these have been answered before, but i have been looking all over the board for these answers, and keep finding conflicting answers.
Mordekai

Mordekai said:
Hey Everyone,
I am trying to nail this down. Do I need to do the Hard SPL for my CDMA TP2? If the answer is yes, I can go from there. I have upgraded recently from my Mogul (tytn II) and didn't have to (if memory serves) bother with this process to flash ROMs.
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I am not CDMA, but a quick GOOGLE brought up.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=42503
Mordekai said:
My second question: I've seen alot of post about a ROM "cooker" (I can't remember the actual title) it basically looks like a GUI based ROM creator. Does this mean I can de-construct and mash up my on ROMs?
Mordekai
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Yes, there are people that Cook rooms, I believe that Cooker is refered to as the kitchen. I do a lot of Flashing, but have never attempted to Cook my own. I would sugest you play around with Flashing some of the more Common ROM's before you head down the Kitchen path

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Question about ROM upgrade

Hello everyone -
Newbie here at this stuff, and I was wondering if I can download the Universal ROM AKU3.5 and install it on my Verizon XV6700 phone?
Thanks.
P.S: Universal means it's for everyone? or is it another brand like HTC, Apache, etc.
vboyz103 said:
Hello everyone -
Newbie here at this stuff, and I was wondering if I can download the Universal ROM AKU3.5 and install it on my Verizon XV6700 phone?
Thanks.
P.S: Universal means it's for everyone? or is it another brand like HTC, Apache, etc.
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Universal is a BRAND, just as Apache is a BRAND.
I suggest you read the Apache Wiki
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Apache
Not much info on there right now, but it will get you started. Also, do a forum search for the Apache or the XV6700 to find out if other owners are successfully able to flash to a new ROM and the steps they took to do it.
Good Luck!!
Thanks for the reply, one question though, you mentioned about new ROM for XV6700 over Apache forum, and I'm assuming u mean the Sprint AKU2.2 ROM right? If so I already got it flashed in my Verizon XV6700 and working now. What i'm interested in is the AKU3.x ROM. Is it possible at this moment?
Thanks.
That's a question you'll need to answer yourself from reading the thread that has the ROM you want to flash to. Each ROM has it's own prerequisites for a successful upgrade, so I wouldn't even want to presume to know whether you can or can't.
Here's the link to Molski's AKU3.2 ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286988
However, it's in the Wizard upgrade section, so you might not be able to use it on your Apache. The only way to know for sure is to read the ENTIRE thread to see if you could use it on your device.
If so, FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS EXACTLY!!
If it's a Verizon phone, it is not GSM based, therefore it is TOTALLY different from the Wizard, and most other HTC devices.
If you can't do it yourself, learn. If you can't learn, wait for someone else to do it, and find out from them.
Now go have fun!

How do i upgrade jsut a radio?

im new to this.. going to install
Austinsnyc's AT&T 3.62 Clean ROM
onto my 8525 and i just unlocked it via another post on here and it downgraded my radio to be compatible for the sim unlock..
i was reading austinsync's rom's thread and it says its just the rom and splash screen.. no radio .. so im wondering how do i do this before i try to install this rom.. thanks for the help
First, make sure you've got HardSPL installed. Then install a radio seperately. (Instructions for 1.43.00.00, but they apply for most radios.)
You could have learned this by reading the wiki...
N2A said:
First, make sure you've got HardSPL installed. Then install a radio seperately. (Instructions for 1.43.00.00, but they apply for most radios.)
You could have learned this by reading the wiki...
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i did after i posted it i couldnt find it.. now i got another problem
i installed wm6 but when i click shift on my 8525 some of the shift buttons arent what they are on the keyboard its very confusing any way to fix
Seriously chad, read the wiki, do a search on the forum. The stuff you are asking is so basic and has been covered millions of times. This thread is a total waste.
chad.a said:
i did after i posted it i couldnt find it.. now i got another problem
i installed wm6 but when i click shift on my 8525 some of the shift buttons arent what they are on the keyboard its very confusing any way to fix
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You caught me in a good mood, which is rare concerning noobs not searching. A hint... bookmark the Search XDA in my sig...

Sprint Touch Custom Rom where can I find one ?

Hello everyone.
I'm new to this and been reading around, playing with different stuff.
Just finish unlocking my Vogue and now looking for 2 or 3 roms to try.
1. Latest Stable Custom ROM (WM 6.1)
2. Latest Stable OEM Rom (for emergency)
I don't know whats the difference really, but I think I want to try the WM 6.1 Roms, but I been noticing there are so many of them in different forums. I don't know what to do, and it seems most of them are experimental and stuff.
I notice, doing all this process will cause people to go all over everything they done to their phone before (Tweaks im talking about)
Thanks in advance
try the Vogue Forums on PPC Geeks.
cortezzi said:
try the Vogue Forums on PPC Geeks.
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Thanks
Theres nothing to be found here on Vogue ROMs ?
LycanNyc said:
Thanks
Theres nothing to be found here on Vogue ROMs ?
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try here
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=59
are you blind, lol sorry, don't mean to flame there is alot out there
Dereks rom
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=18553
mustan-tech rom
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=22471
mrgeoff's rom
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=19933
OMJ's rom
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=17963
and my personall favorite ghettofreeryder's rom
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=21289
vogue upgrade section at ppc geeks
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=59
Yes I found them all thanks

probably a n00b question :)

hello, i am kinda new to this scene, but i mean no harm
I don't know everything but am eager to learn.
so i gonna ask some newbee questions and maybe i didn't read everything but hell, there is no harm asking
i just bought the diamond (in the dutch language, i've seen a couple more dutch ppl so if there is some one that knows alot, please add me @ msn : Deleted for Users Privacy You don't know Which Creep will add you, Use the Safe PM Method)
now i have some questions
- how can i extract my current rom? and can i use that extracted rom as a backup when i accidentily flash the wrong rom, or just want to have it back to the old way
- what is hard spl, i know it has something to do with the signing of other roms than the original rom, what are the dangers about flashing the spl, can it do any harm to my diamond? and can i go back to the original settings (and also, how about warranty?)
- before i had the Diamond, i had the Herald (P4350) and i bricked it twice, can this also happen with the diamond? or isn't that possible couze the SPL can be flashed (it wasn't possible with my p4350, thats why it was bricked )
i ask this questions becouse i want to get the maximum from my diamond, but i also have a contract on my provider and can't get a new phone in 2 years, don't want to waste my diamond on a stupid accident
if you think i am a noob, i am. but don't reply if you don't have any thing intresting to tell.
please don't tell me to use the search, becouse there are verry much topics and i can't get an hold of it, that's why i am asking it here.
Thank you verry much,
regards,
Sam
Im not ENORMOUSLY qualified to answer the SPL questions in depth but the General purpose of using HardSPL is that your device is freed up to use ANY ROM you wish (it has to be a diamond rom though). Hence your device is not limited to ROMs by your carrier:
Originally if you bought a Tmobile handset it is usually CID locked to only allow tmobile ROMS, with HArdSPL it allows any diamond ROM, so you could use on by HTC...or a cooked ROM found on this forum!
Also HardSPL has had a tradition of safeguarding against some of the types of brick possible, this may be the case with the version for the diamond but id probably let cmonex or olipro comment on that as im not too sure.
By adding the signing of ROMS and radios etc...this has removed the possibility of ROMs being flashed which are known to brick devices, wether it is intentional or just an accident by a ROM chef. Only allowing signed images to be flashed makes it alot safer for the majority of users.
Just a note: I would not advise to post your e-mail in a public forum, unless you dig spam.
chribruu said:
Just a note: I would not advise to post your e-mail in a public forum, unless you dig spam.
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yeah i know, but hell, it's only my gmail accout. got a lots of those
Maybe that is his allowed to have spam address
Anyway these questions are the same resting on my shoulders .... sadly my thread got closed.
All we want to know is how we .... backup the ROM before flashing and restoring it.
I figured the phone consists of the following:
IPL (Initial Program Loader) ... this is like a BIOS for your phone.
SPL (Secondary Program Loader) ... this will boot the actual OS.
ROM ... this is the part where WM61 etc all is?
Ext_ROM ... this is the part where HTC has put all its customizations like TF3D?
So when we use this HardSPL, we only flash the SPL ... ROM stays intact? And how do we make a backup of all this?
Also why is a hard-reset needed if only the SPL is being flashed? It would just startup and boot your ROM, or am I mistaken?
Maybe once Ive gained more knowledge about these nifty phones, I can contribute to the community too like you all do. Maybe I'll just start a "Total noob guide to the HTC Diamond" ... all I need is a start, I want to flash this thing ASAP .... but I first want to get a few simple answers which arent 100% answered by the wiki or forums (mainly how to backup ROM, radio etc etc etc BEFORE flashing).
Meh my posts tend to get longer than expected on new forums
@sfjuocekr:
- Diamond does not have an extrom.
- read kaiser/polaris/niki/etc.. (msm7xxx devices) forums and wiki, 95% of what is said there applies for the diamond too. Apply common sense to decide what is device specific or not.
Hope that serves you as a start, for example, to answer your question about rom dumping, compare these two threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382609
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334680
And apply common sense, so you'll se it's the same for diamond.
sfjuocekr said:
Maybe that is his allowed to have spam address
I figured the phone consists of the following:
IPL (Initial Program Loader) ... this is like a BIOS for your phone.
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no IPL for diamond, the radio bootloader does that job.
the rest was said by pof very nicely
btw note: when you try to apply shift/kaiser commands to dump the rom, make sure you change the sizes in the commands, to match the pdocread -l info.
mrvanx said:
Originally if you bought a Tmobile handset it is usually CID locked to only allow tmobile ROMS, with HArdSPL it allows any diamond ROM, so you could use on by HTC...or a cooked ROM found on this forum!
Also HardSPL has had a tradition of safeguarding against some of the types of brick possible, this may be the case with the version for the diamond but id probably let cmonex or olipro comment on that as im not too sure.
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Does this mean that HardSPL is not necessary (but advisable) if your device is not CID locked to any carrier but bought directly from HTC?
Apologies for the next noob question...
demonizator said:
Does this mean that HardSPL is not necessary (but advisable) if your device is not CID locked to any carrier but bought directly from HTC?
Apologies for the next noob question...
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HTC devices are still CID locked....to HTC ROMs, no device you can buy is SuperCID afaik.
pof said:
@sfjuocekr:
- Diamond does not have an extrom.
- read kaiser/polaris/niki/etc.. (msm7xxx devices) forums and wiki, 95% of what is said there applies for the diamond too. Apply common sense to decide what is device specific or not.
Hope that serves you as a start, for example, to answer your question about rom dumping, compare these two threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382609
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334680
And apply common sense, so you'll se it's the same for diamond.
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This is the reply on which Ive been waiting
As soon as I'm home Ill read more about it and maybe post my finding is a uniform Diamond thread ...
Also the sketch from the layout ... I made up from information I found all over the forums and wiki, I do apply common sense but I still have limited knowhow about how these phones work.
Anyway thanks alot, Ill be trying to backup my phone asap when I arrive home from work (I work for Tele2/Versatel ... dont be scared I wont do any harm )
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HTC devices are still CID locked....to HTC ROMs, no device you can buy is SuperCID afaik.
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Got you...
Seems, after reading while working, these dumps are not the biggest helpers. As in we can't yet use them to rebuild the original ROM? I might have overlooked something, will investigate further this evening after work.
My question now still is, does this also update radio and SPL?
So the HTC Diamond basicly consists of a radio ROM, then the SPL and then goes into HTC ROM with WM61 etc ...?
So upgrading to HardSPL ... doesnt touch your current ROM and allows it to boot into it fine or does it need to be signed? Why is the hardreset needed then?
Anyway Im probably asking the same questions found on other parts of the forum, sorry for that if it annoys people around here. I just want to get started with a full backup, that is restorable ... as in that I can restore my phone to factory defaults ... if needed
I have alot of coding and hardware experience, which might help the community some day when I gain more knowledge. My age was the homemade EEPROM programmers and big ZIF-sockets business, you probably know what Im aiming for
sfjuocekr said:
I just want to get started with a full backup, that is restorable ... as in that I can restore my phone to factory defaults ... if needed
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I second that. Is there a way to do a full backup and restore to factory defaults after using hardspl and cooked roms?
SPL: you can take it from an official rom (nbhextract), if its the same version that you have, or you can dump it from the device before HardSPL'ing it. (see one of the previous threads I linked on how to pmemdump the SPL).
Radio:you can take it from an official rom (nbhextract), if its the same version that you have.
OS: Search how to reconstruct a dumped ROM, again, apply common sense
sfjuocekr said:
Why is the hardreset needed then?
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that's just standard RUU procedure. you can hack the RUU exe to not send task 28 to cause the SPL to hard reset.
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you can hack the RUU exe to not send task 28 to cause the SPL to hard reset.
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I guess that you will do that soon too, right?
Perfect job you guys!!!

Sorry..another noobie

I'm afraid I've had to resort to posting the million dollar question, how do I flash a modified ROM? I've been searching for hours on how to but just can't find anything that explains things in plainly. I've visited various websites that have links here but I can't work out where to even start. There's all this talk SPL and stuff that I have no clue what it is.
Could somebody please post replies to this and guide me through it? I'd appreciate it very much as I really like my Diamond but it could do with a boost.
Thanks
Maybe you over looked the search take a look at this thread it will help you,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409405
http://www.modmydiamond.info/
KukurikU/badman112...
Thanks guys for the pointers. I must admit I've been looking at these before. However, having looked at them in a bit more detail, I can see how it's starting to get together.
There were 3 things that I couldn't find on the pages...
1. How do I back up my existing ROM (and everything that will be overwritten) so should things go wrong, I have a restore option?
2. The page about upgrading your ROM says.."now download a ROM of your choice". Somehow that doesn't sound as simple as it's put. There are ROMs all over the place, how do I know what will work on my Diamond.
3. Is it really worth upgrading the ROM? i.e Are there any actual success stories of the Diamond "flying" along as if it's just been injected with steriods?
Look forward to your replies.
Thanks
1: ROM backup - search is your best friend, there are a few open threads about this procedure.
As for making a backup of your contacts/msgs etc, you can sync the device with windows, use PIMbackup or sprite backup.
2: You won't know till you find a ROM which fits your needs. There is no universal BEST rom...
3: Yes there are. ^.^
IndyUK said:
KukurikU/badman112...
2. The page about upgrading your ROM says.."now download a ROM of your choice". Somehow that doesn't sound as simple as it's put. There are ROMs all over the place, how do I know what will work on my Diamond.
Thanks
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a good place to start is by only downloading ROMs from the Diamond forums

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