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How does the device perform with playback of a 40mb mpeg 1 video at 3-5min long? and also what is music palyback like. what is the wheel and trackball like, do they break easily or get dirty quickly? and, if there are any other performance related issues i should know about please say them here?, i have a free upgrade and was looking at this device or the xda zinc, read details on xda flame but donot know when it is released, im an o2uk customer in n.ireland
thanks in advance
Exec Man said:
How does the device perform with playback of a 40mb mpeg 1 video at 3-5min long? and also what is music palyback like. what is the wheel and trackball like, do they break easily or get dirty quickly? and, if there are any other performance related issues i should know about please say them here?, i have a free upgrade and was looking at this device or the xda zinc, read details on xda flame but donot know when it is released, im an o2uk customer in n.ireland
thanks in advance
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I've only tried wmv file (320x240, Video data rate 230kbps, ~100MB) so far. Well, I was deeply dissappointed as the playback is extremely twitchy to the extent that watching it just doesn't make any sense. Having overclocked the device to 260MHz, I only achieved marginally acceptable playback quality, i.e. with some minor twitching left.
Actually, I have some development in the right direction. I re-encoded the original file using windows movie maker with its default settings 'Video for Pocket PC (Full screen 218 Kbps)'. Now the video plays back smoothly, however, the quality suffered just a tad (which is by no means irritating or distracting).
Thanks for the reply, has anyone else got any answers to the other questions, plus how does tcpmp work at playing video on it?
TCPMP's performance is dependent upon what you throw at it - this is true no matter what device you are using. In general it works fine with movies encoded for the PPC but will never perform like a 400 Mhz device.
The scroll wheel and trackball work fine as well. Again, depends on how hard you are using it - that is, the amount of dirt, etc. you expose it to. In 'normal' business & personal use, they have performed just fine in the few months I've had it. Trackball takes some getting used to though.
Hope this helps.
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thanks, ive had a universal this last year as my first ppc fone, wanted sumthing smaller this time round, hopefully its coming tomorrow or the day after, so will be working out the tricks of this device soon enough,
thanks
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Having owned an HD2 for 9 months and struggling to type on it, I decided to try the Touch Pro2 and bought a nice example on eBay. In terms of usability as a phone I find it way better that the HD2, the acoustics and volume are great, it’s comfortable to hold, and finally I can type properly. I also bought this phone for the TV-out that the HD2 lacks. However, the video playback is terrible!
I have been through the forums here, tried all the tweaks and fixes, tried every setting in TCPMP/Core, tried disabling Sense (which makes no “sense”) but still videos which play fine on the HD2 are barely playing at all on the TP2 - jerky, low frame rate. I don’t want to have to re-encode everything; I download DIVX TV episodes, around 350MB each, and just play them directly on the HD2. I realise the HD2 has a much faster processor, but I’m sure my old Diamond played these videos just fine too.
I have tried the latest stock HTC (unbranded) ROM that the phone came with, with Core Player, and also tried the latest Energy ROM with the built in TCPMP – no difference. All I see on the forums is that it’s a known problem with the TP2 and WM6.5. But I can’t believe that all the loyal TP2 users on this forum are just happy to accept the virtual lack of video playback capability on a phone like this.
Is there a fix, or am I going to have to put this great phone back on eBay and continue my quest for the perfect phone?
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i hear about this problem a lot. try converting the file format of the video to .avi or mp4.
personally i have no problem with video playback. havnt tried mkv yet but im not too hopefull on that one.
If you cant play it decend, then it's a rom problem. I use valkyre roms and I never had problems what so ever when I wanted to play a video.
So try that rom and see how it goes.
If i want to view a video on my TP2 i convert it with this tool:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
Works like a charm
Grtz, FeareX
I spent much of yesterday trying out different DVD/video conversion software and finally settled on one that does a great job of converting files into a format that plays well on the Tilt 2/TouchPro 2. I don't know why, but it appears this phone's version of WMP doesn't like MPGs or WMVs as much as it likes 3GP files. These files (in both *.3gp and *.3g2 format) play almost flawlessly and without artifacting, something neither MPGs or WMVs do on the Tilt 2. In the process of auditioning all these various programs, the best I found was Pavtube's Blu-ray Video Converter Ultimate. Don't let the name fool you, it does much more than just Blu-ray. In fact, it can handle almost anything you throw at it and the flexibility of output choices is amazing. Not only are there templates for just about any video/audio format you'd want, but they are editable, so you can change them to your needs and then save them as custom templates. I was hesitant about the $69 list price (the trial puts a watermark in the middle of the screen), but I did some searching and found a discount coupon online and got it for only $37. I have converted all 3 Matrix movies, the Lord of the Rings trilogy and a BD of the 2nd Narnia movie. I had the choice to preserve the theatre aspect ratio or go full screen and both look stunning on the Tilt 2 and play with barely a hiccup. I have some traveling coming up and wanted to take some movies on the road. This program was well worth the money and I spent hours trying others with varying degrees of success. The one free option (Freemake) is OK, but has nowhere near the customizability and its 3GP conversions do not play properly on the Tilt 2. The WMV conversions I did had artifacting issues with fast motion and the MPGs looked horrible and laggy. I wholeheartedly recommend this program from Pavtube. Here's a link to the discount I used.
http://software-coupon-everyday.com...o-converter-ultimate-42-discount-coupon-code/
BD conversion is a real-time process (yes, you need to have a BD reader), but DVD conversions take about 25 minutes for a 2 hour movie. The one BD movie I did yielded a 900mb file and the standard DVDs yielded about 500mb files. You can get them smaller, but quality will suffer a bit. I have a 16gb card, so no worries for me.
BTW, the serial number worked on both my desktop and laptop PC installations, so I can take it with me on the go.
I don't understand why you would do all this workarounds when all you need to do is flash a decend rom?
What workarounds? If you want to transfer DVD movies to the device you have to convert them somehow, and the software I recommended makes it possible. Not everyone wants to go through the hassle of flashing ROMs. Yeah, I know it can be easy, but the trial and error of finding a ROM that suits your needs, is stable and the chore of reinstalling all your tweaks and programs is a real pain. No thanks.
Hate to say it cuz I love my TiltII but IMHO it is that hardware acceleration of the video was not implemented in the driver by HTC just like the original Tilt which was a dog for playing video files as well. I have found that the HTC video player will play H264 mp4 files that are great looking and not jumpy but it cannot be that high of throughput.
Have you looked here for a discussion about the problems:
http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619945
And try this cab/driver found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=546522
I assume you've tried all the various settings within Coreplayer?
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Have you looked here for a discussion about the problems:
http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619945
And try this cab/driver found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=546522
I assume you've tried all the various settings within Coreplayer?
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Are you running Atom's or Neo's cab? After reading through all the related threads, seems like Neo's latest V3 cab has better performance and higher compatibility with the Tilt 2/TP2, but it's over 1mb compared to 80k. I assume this needs to be installed to system memory, not the SD card.
I installed Atom's cab and while it did speed up the box animation, I see no difference in any of my 3D games or in TF3D performance. I read where many are installing both Atom's and Neo's cabs and seeing improvement. I may try this, but I'd like to hear from others that have done so.
Have you tried overclocking your phone?
buru898 said:
Have you tried overclocking your phone?
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Yup. Running OCX at 710. Movies played fine even without that. 3D games are a little laggy, though. Just wondering if I need both 3D drivers to see the full benefit.
So, what kinds of music maker apps do you guys like to use on your epics? I've looked at quite a few of em buy none have really wow'ed me so far. I'm kind of looking for something similar to that one Nintendo DS music synthesizer called Korg DS-10, any good ones out there?
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nanoloops is the one i've found that i really enjoy.
another would be plasma keyboard.
Its called plasma sound now
Epic 4g, CM9 Beta, EL30, Shadow
I second Plasma Sound, and I highly recommend CAUSTIC.
Also, check out IVory Tower - it's an isomorphic keyboard (some sort of cross between a piano and guitar layout, but more efficient) that can send MIDI notes over WiFi. It's not really a synthesizer, although it's not too hard to replace its default overdrive guitar sample if you don't have another device to send the MIDI to.
Beware, though, Android has horrible audio latency on nearly every device out there, the Epic included. Plasma Sound, Caustic, and nearly every music creation app I've tried all have an unacceptably long delay between the input and sound generation. Some people like to blame the hardware manufacturers for it, but http://arunraghavan.net/2012/01/pulseaudio-vs-audioflinger-fight leads me to believe it's purely an Android software issue, which only Google can fix. :/
Give G-Stomper a try. It's an Electribe like 11-Track Drum Machine (for Android) with a powerful effect chain (4 processors, 22 effect types). Live Pattern Arranger, Song Mode, Motion Sequencing, Audio import/export, SoundCloud integration, and much more. Available at google market (free demo and full (paid) version).
uloops by pocket band.
Have you guys seen the youtube of Samsung Galaxy 3....Man I love the video player capability of minimizing while you can still type sms while watching the movie. I think it's an awesome idea. Is there any video app can do that?? Just cant believe HTC have not even include any video app other than the CRAPPY useless HTC watch.
There you go my friend
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...tickit&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd
You can use different skins for the player too - mac one looks very polished.
Also blow your mates away by having two videos open at the same time whilst browsing the net - blinkin awesome
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There you go my friend
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...tickit&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd
You can use different skins for the player too - mac one looks very polished.
Also blow your mates away by having two videos open at the same time whilst browsing the net - blinkin awesome
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Nice.....but really bad cant make it full screen again???? you can only resize but cant make it full screen again. Think the dev should implement this feature.
Also very much a gimmick to me. Like Facetime. Or Siri. Will rarely ever be used outside of the 1st week/month, trust me
When I was watching unpacking galaxy then been thinking what a stupid idea is a watch movie and in the same moment writing sms, now I see people like that.
That seems so pointless and gimmicky. All touchscreen apps (every app you would download/use) is designed to use the entire screen. With a small video playing on the screen you are going to blocking at least SOME elements of the UI, in many cases rendering the app of the moment useless.
The S3 is a vomitted-up mix of software gimmicks and bad industrial design. The US versions are nothing more than a S2 with an LTE radio. Thanks, but no thanks.
Watching the demo, firefly can recognize a movie scene plus id the time in play, and actors in the scene.
Anyone know how it works?
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Watching the demo, firefly can recognize a movie scene plus id the time in play, and actors in the scene.
Anyone know how it works?
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records a part, sends to amazon´s server, the server will get some parts of the file and compare to some kind of list.
this may sound like a lot of work, but those servers runs really high specs so they do stuff quickly
Bob Smith42 said:
Watching the demo, firefly can recognize a movie scene plus id the time in play, and actors in the scene.
Anyone know how it works?
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By the way, it works incredibly well. Even if you're watching something at a very quiet moment with some background music playing, it will recognize it instantly and tell you exactly how far into it you are.
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records a part, sends to amazon´s server, the server will get some parts of the file and compare to some kind of list.
this may sound like a lot of work, but those servers runs really high specs so they do stuff quickly
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not exactly, but close.
it is based on a technique (that is obvious and common domain since the 60s but everyone and their mom managed to get patents on variations of it) called fuzzy pattern matching.
basically you reduce the media (music, video, image, text) to something like a hash. and then send to the central database for matching. it is the same as reverse image search.
so when you record a part of a song or a few scenes of a movie, it will completely mangle it in the same way that the indexing server also mangled it before so that it can match.
it is like sending a whole book trhu md5sum. ... e.g.
Code:
cat bible.txt | md5sum
cbd9f01575bf45cfc99ea8f37bc04f87
now, the indexing server will only receive from your phone cbd9f01575bf45cfc99ea8f37bc04f87 and it may not even know what is the contents of the bible. but it will tell you "this is ISBN 123124123. go buy it here on amazon!"
from movies and music, it is the same. they mangle the audio into one channel. split several segments starting at one sec and lasting a few seconds. and send that hash number to the server. which have hashes of all indexed music and video.
it is very efficient. just search for the term above in patents and you will see lots and lots of things that should not have been patented but where. well, at least they wrote it down for you to read now... sigh.