I don't know why but text messages on my US TMOB TP2 make this phone one of the most irritating devices I have ever owned. I am using stock 6.1 and the device lags so incredibly it is beyond description. One of the reasons that I purchased this particular model was because I wanted to be able to bang out quick text messages hence a full qwerty keyboard. I sometimes have to wait over a minute for it to stop thinking before I can access my messaging. And god forbid I am actually trying to accomplish something when somebody interrups me with a text message. Can I down grade this to WM5? I have almost had it!!!
Is it just me, or are a large percentage of the people who complain about this phone with T-Mobile?
From my experience my unbranded TP2 is just great using hardware keyboard
Of course not better keyboard then my beloved Universal but from the new devices TP2 is the best one with kb this days
I feel ya!
Well I do not have the T-Mobile TP2 but I have a Tilt 2 and on the stock WM6.5 is could get laggy if I have a lot of messages.... try clearing your inbox and that will help out! Now that may take a while to actually do the clearing, but don't worry the device is still deleting. My recommendation would be to look around the Rhodium ROM development forum and read up on custom ROMs or maybe an official T-Mobile 6.5 ROM. I am currently using TPC's ROM which should work w/o a problem on your T-Mobile TP2!
It really is a great phone and has one of the best keyboards around imo! So if you are willing to go for it and try an after-market ROM I recommend it, and its pretty easy although ya know you run a few risks (albeit low)!
Good Luck to ya!
Oh and no I do not think WM5 is an option!
i have a tmo tp2 and i have NEVER experienced keyboard issues. You prolly have very low memory problems or cache issues...if ur getting lag you prolly need to check your memory in task mnger and see how much program memory is in usage. download app called clean ram its a good utility to clear up loose memory.Delete history in your internet browser also when need be, stuff like this for cleanin up your memory is mandatory, also see the thread about TMO keyboard fix and see if you need that cab, search rhodium app section. You may have a bad/recalled phone also so i suggest you take it back to tmo if your still having problems afterwards.
This is stock ROM for you.
I had similar issues, but a cooked WM6.5.1 ROM reduced lags considerably.
Still, Windows Mobile leaves much to be desired.
My RAM is never above 56%. I do not run many multiple apps simultaneously. This issue of mine is not keyboard related either. It is software related because it doesn't matter whether I am using the keyboard or not. It just seems like the messaging portion just has a lot of thinking to do. I tap to view something and it just stalls out. Every other app runs fairly smooth. Sending picture messages basically is a 5 minute job. Very annoying. It also doesn't matter if I am using TF3D or not.
I've not done much in the way of messaging yet, but I've noticed that anytime I let PIE or Windows Explorer do anything that requires them to access the filesystem the wait begins. I've tried tweaking the cache size with Memmaid and it helped a bit, but it's still unacceptably slow. Enough to where I never ever use Windows Explorer now, and don't let PIE access the filesystem on the SD card.
I'm not trying to hijack your thread here. I think that your problem is my problem and it has to do with a defect in our devices that causes extreme slowness when the filesystem needs to be read by the OS, or specifically how that is implemented on this particular device. My iPaq 210 has no problem, Windows Explorer on it is almost instant in reading all filesystems, even the Windows directory itself. And with any of my many CE, PPC, and WM devices I've never had a similar problem.
you got some other issues going on, the stock tmobile rom was glorious for me, although now im on a official 6.5 rom euro style. Its got nothing to do with being tmobile either, and this place is mostly gsm thats why theres mostly tmobile complaints, and its been out longer than at&ts........
i never had a problem with the stock rom for tmobile either.
Try out SMS-Chat from VITO. That thing is faster than lightening to text with.
Man, I am PRETTY sure I was reading on XDA the first week TP2 came out for Tmo about HTC sending out devices with memory error? like some devices not having as much RAM as stated? I could be wrong by try to search. Maybe it could be that? warranty what?
Oh, and I am a texting whore (10,000-15,000/month EASY) thanks to my job and lifestyle and I have tried many phones in my life...the TP2 is amazing.
My gripe with the TP2 (or TMo Vario V with a stock TMo 6.5 ROM) is the inconsistency of the UI.
I get a different texting screen if I start texting from favourite people or from the all contacts list.
The "all programs" listing is different when started from the manila tab or from the windows key/symbol. And I didn't even start ranting on the subject of the calendar ...
Robert
rfka01 said:
My gripe with the TP2 (or TMo Vario V with a stock TMo 6.5 ROM) is the inconsistency of the UI.
I get a different texting screen if I start texting from favourite people or from the all contacts list.
The "all programs" listing is different when started from the manila tab or from the windows key/symbol. And I didn't even start ranting on the subject of the calendar ...
Robert
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This is why I ditched the HTC UI ASAP and went with a custom 6.5 ROM with Titanium...thing's a beast!
Hard reset solved the problem. Thinking of custom 6.5 ROM now since TMOBUS doesn't look promising.
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For me it would be the fact that it STILL has
the same greyish, blocky scrollbars as Windows 3.1 had....
You'd imagine they would have revamped those by now...
That is a minor quibble. Personally I do not see anything wrong with WM6... yet.
Most of us here are still happy that at least we are getting WM6
If anything I had a bit of quibble with Opera and its interaction with WM5\WM6 but then again, that is a software issue.
Yeah, if that's all you have to complain about in WM6, I think you're LOOKING for things to complain about.
Like the "Error Syncronizing" problem in Outlook, that no one but me seems to have seen; or the Calendar problem where Month is always the default view, no matter what's chosen in Options... These are legit. problems, not just complaints.
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Y; or the Calendar problem where Month is always the default view, no matter what's chosen in Options... These are legit. problems, not just complaints.
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I am running LVSW Edition 2007-03-25 and do not have this problem with calendar, maybe it is your version.
Ron
Try UIQ for a month, you`ll hate PPC
WM6 has a lot to learn, as I see it on WM6 we have many stolen UIQ features.
Microsoft still has a lot to learn, a WM6 device just wont work as a normal phone and switch to "PDA Mode" when you need it.
UIQ has done it, you have a perfectly working phone with access to all the main features, with a flip of a switch you can transfer yourself to a fully featured PDA.
hm, the most annoying thing you say.
yeah , can think of 1 - a minor issue yet very annoying.
the busy signal comes out of the loudspeaker (as it did in wm5) !
i hate it. yeah of course you can delete the signal or change ir to a very quiet one, yet ...
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WM6 has a lot to learn, as I see it on WM6 we have many stolen UIQ features.
Microsoft still has a lot to learn, a WM6 device just wont work as a normal phone and switch to "PDA Mode" when you need it.
UIQ has done it, you have a perfectly working phone with access to all the main features, with a flip of a switch you can transfer yourself to a fully featured PDA.
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I do use UIQ3 on my M600, and I'm not impressed in the least. It has it's own set of problems... Stability for one. It's better than it was, but it still isn't great.
As for stolen features, that's crap... name one feature WM6 stole from UIQ. I beg you...
I beg to differ
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I do use UIQ3 on my M600, and I'm not impressed in the least. It has it's own set of problems... Stability for one. It's better than it was, but it still isn't great.
As for stolen features, that's crap... name one feature WM6 stole from UIQ. I beg you...
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you are using UIQ3 - don't know that OS yet.
stolen features?
what about the new "week view" of calender? it`s entire functionality is copied from UIQ 2.1, what about the softkeys finally they copied the ability to navigate the device features?
stability, I used a p900 - for 2 years - 3!! HR(and I was to BLAME)
PPC? - cant count any more, a buggy program can crash your device until the next HR.
most of WM6 design targets declared where for a better use:
stability
speed
usability
Hmm, I had a P900 and the P910 (still use it from time to time) My friend has the Sony P990 (UIQ3). If you want to see problems with UIQ3 use a P990, admittedly most of it is hardware related but even on the M600 you will find problems.
The only way you can compare these two is to only run them on default software and never install 3rd party apps!! I have run 3rd party apps on my P900/P910 and had to do many soft resets etc even with popular apps (Sman etc)
I am so glad that I moved from UIQ(X) to WM(X) as just the increase in productivity software available to me has made it worth it alone! BTW my M3100 running the latest variant of WM6 is rock solid.
Oh & haven't you heard the expression there's nothing new under the sun. Everybody 'steals' from everybody else.
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WM6 has a lot to learn, as I see it on WM6 we have many stolen UIQ features.
Microsoft still has a lot to learn, a WM6 device just wont work as a normal phone and switch to "PDA Mode" when you need it.
UIQ has done it, you have a perfectly working phone with access to all the main features, with a flip of a switch you can transfer yourself to a fully featured PDA.
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Well I havent taken the plunge to WM6 yet, still on WM5, but yes... having migrated from UIQ on several previous phones, I find WM to be an abomination of undocumented, overcompicated and non-integrated bloatware.
The saving features, however, are that it's the only OS I can get on such great hardware (Hermes), and there is such a massive user base that like Windows for PCs, there is loads of great software and support from forums like this.
and here i thought the most annoying thing was that the soft buttons were reversed on the bubble breaker game
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and here i thought the most annoying thing was that the soft buttons were reversed on the bubble breaker game
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The real most annoying feature - the thing just does not work. Period. It's a glorified organizer. It's a toy for geeks like us. It's anything but the reliable tool you can depend on. Radio, messaging, alarms / reminders - they all have [not] mind and schedules of their own ... actually M$ implanted brain farts
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The real most annoying feature - the thing just does not work. Period. It's a glorified organizer. It's a toy for geeks like us. It's anything but the reliable tool you can depend on. Radio, messaging, alarms / reminders - they all have [not] mind and schedules of their own ... actually M$ implanted brain farts
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SSSHHH! You were not supposed to reveal that information!
But it is true... The look on the face of my GF when I have to restart my phone before I can make a call or when everything freezes when adding an appointment....
On my original post: the scrollbars might be a minor thing but it is something I see almost everytime I use this machine.
although I have not used UIQ for a while last one was uiq 2.1 i think or was it 3?
It was a very good os and stable.
but doesnt look as pretty as windows mobile.
Although its better programed and runs better on lower speed processors,
reminds me of the linux v windows situation.
pros and cons to both.
I like windows its pleasing to the eye
I'm sure this can be fixed, but i've search and haven't found a solution yet, so here goes, the most annoying thing about WM6 for is:
In WM5 (standard T-Mobile UK rom) i had a link in Start Menu for "Running Programs" this took me straight to Start->Settings->System->Memory->Running Programs, i would like to create a link on my WM6 that takes me straight here too, but i dont know how?
the thing I hate so far is they (in WM6) still dont allow you to quickley dial a meeting number.... like I used to do in a blackberry...... thats the only thing I find really annoying...
I sould be able to choose a reminder and if there is a number value in there I should be able to choose it to dail.....
one fo my biggest complaints.
in s60 phones when I was sent a concatenated message it would display as one contigious message.
in Wm5/Wm6 a concatenated message is displayed as several messages and sometimes they come in out of order which is really annoying.
if anyone knows of a fix for this short of using an alternate messaging app please let me know.
My biggest issue is that I cannot connect to my office VPN using Internet sharing, worked perfectly in WM5 as a wireless modem, normal browsing is ok.
Malcolm
Most annoying thing...
(1) Boot time is incredibly slow, at last count 40 seconds from reset to ability to make a call
(2) I still cannot send text messages to 'groups' - major gripe from WM5 followed through
(3) Text Messaging - New has been replaced by Delete as the initial text message screen (possibly a setting I havent found yet)
Major speed advantage so far though...
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I'm sure this can be fixed, but i've search and haven't found a solution yet, so here goes, the most annoying thing about WM6 for is:
In WM5 (standard T-Mobile UK rom) i had a link in Start Menu for "Running Programs" this took me straight to Start->Settings->System->Memory->Running Programs, i would like to create a link on my WM6 that takes me straight here too, but i dont know how?
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That actually wasn't WM5 but an addition by T-Mobile.
You could use X-button to close programmes completely instead of making them run in the background. That way you don't even have to go into 'running programmes'.
Hello all,
With all the awesome chef's in the kitchen it is hard to ask this question... but I will.
I would like to know what the most stable WM6 rom is, In your opinion.
I have used Black 2.0... for 2 weeks (seemed flawless)
Then I tried Tried 2.5 then LVSW, and even Custel's ROM but get random freezes, I grab the phone and its froze, missed how many calls?? I can't have this.
Something I might be doing you say, possible but I have even installed no additional apps, and only sync to exchange. I see others having some various issues with differnet roms. So this prompted me to ask the question I have.
So whats the most stable ROM?
i use black 2.5 with his new memory.cab and works great no problems. what programs are you using b/c it may be related to them. maybe use sktools to delete some unneccesary programs from starting on boot and go from there.
Black 1.2 with a weeks+ of working it to perfection. No need to flash anything else for me until WM7 comes out. lol
Coming back to a froze device sounds like you have the sd card lockups, and not rom related, but if you dont have a card installed, dismiss my post.
I was using Black 2.5, I have a lot of freezes in particular when I activeSync and I do activeSync A LOT, (freeze about every 3rd time I activeSync). A few miss call, and call which I have no audio.
I switch to LVSW 4/23 (FULL version), currently with the same applications installed on Black 2.5, my phone seems to be running well, no freezes yet for half a day already. (ActiveSync more than 10 times already)
I am not saying there is any problem with Black 2.5 rom. A lot of people are very happy with Black 2.5. What I am simply saying is that with the set of applications that I need (a few of them are beta apps), LVSW seems more compatibility than Black.
P.S. Using PhoneAlarm, PocketInformat, CEStar, ISilo, Cyberon Voic Speed Dial, and SplashID
I've had no freezing issues, only app I install is im+
I am running Black 2.5 and I too am having similar ActiveSync problems. And it freezes every third time as well. Strange....
noop said:
I was using Black 2.5, I have a lot of freezes in particular when I activeSync and I do activeSync A LOT, (freeze about every 3rd time I activeSync). A few miss call, and call which I have no audio.
I switch to LVSW 4/23 (FULL version), currently with the same applications installed on Black 2.5, my phone seems to be running well, no freezes yet for half a day already. (ActiveSync more than 10 times already)
I am not saying there is any problem with Black 2.5 rom. A lot of people are very happy with Black 2.5. What I am simply saying is that with the set of applications that I need (a few of them are beta apps), LVSW seems more compatibility than Black.
P.S. Using PhoneAlarm, PocketInformat, CEStar, ISilo, Cyberon Voic Speed Dial, and SplashID
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Previously I was using Black 2.0 and never had one freeze. But since I upgraded to 2.5 I get random freezes like couple times a day, I suspect this could be due to the new OS build? Once I have time I would probably reflash it back to 2.0 cuz it's rock stable for me.
Black 2.5 is working sweet as for me.
Couple of freezes with LVSW and XDA Live, but nothing major, i had freezes with the OEM rom, its just what phones and computers seem to do these days!!
I;ll stay Black, but at the end of the day, use the rom, which you think you will get the best community support, has the best community friendliness and if you ever do have troubles, you shouldnt be troubles trying to fix them!
keep in mind that these ROMs are essentially beta (even if based upon the "final" WM6). they do not undergo the rigorous testing that a carrier would provide.
if you are unwilling to deal with this (and RTFW for answers), then you might be better sticking with the factory shipping WM5 roms...
I like Custel's rom, support is there, and rom is quick n smooth
LVSW 4/23
The full version of LVSW 4/23 is the most stable so far for me. This is the first of the WM6 ROMS I can open and run Netfront, Newsbreak, Pocket IE, Messaging, Camera, Resco Explorer, get a phone call at the same time and still have no freezing. I did a little tweaking to it, but out of the gate it is just fine. All I really needed to install in the Keyboard fix and the Cingular settings.
noop, the reason you freeze alot or crashes alot is becoz of CE-Star..all i know is LVSW does not have the problem, but all other rom does...
Don't use the one from WM5, i remember there is a lite version on this fourm (topic x01ht showing chinese or sth)
Why i know, coz i just install ce-star on black, it will never work..it will crash almost anything...The guy who made the lite has a re-edit version of Ce-star for crossbow, that you have to try your own..since all i need is viewing~
They are all good!
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...but at the end of the day, use the rom, which you think you will get the best community support, has the best community friendliness...
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We are all one big happy community here at XDA Developers!
For me with the earlier round of ROMS LVSW 4/23 worked the best. Zero problems. Haven't finished trying out the latest batch yet so I can't say. The bottom line is that with these ROMS you really do have to try them all and make your decision on which one best meets your needs when coupled with the software that you use.
All of these cooks are turning out some nice ROMs, the problems are more frequently caused by programs that are not yet certified for WM6 and the cooks, of course, have no control over this.
I would also suggest not to use any program to clean your OS, e.g. memory maid as it seems become unstable for all rom after cleaning the system with this kind of software.
Hi all,
Thanks for all your responses. I agree support from this forum family is awesome. I also agree with trying several roms to find the one that best fits my needs (but I don't yet know what they are, I just moved from a treo 650, and prior was a treo 600)
I am on LVSW now, I will try it for a bit and see how it goes. I do like Custels as well... Hmmm decisions, decisions. lol
Well thanks again for your responses and thant you Chefs for all your diligent work. You're the Kings in my book.
Comparison Page???
Would it be posible for the creators of the roms to tell us ALL of the bells and whistles that each of them has on it, and someone could compile a chart or page to compare them all? Obviously, the Voice Dial function is important to me, and I dig the Space Invaders, but there is so much more. I would be glad to do it if I could get the info on each with which to begin. As for Stability; is there a way to do a survey that would allow us to rate them according to the opinion of the users here regarding speed of boot/reset and stability and whatever anyone else can think of?
I recently moved to the Dutty Premier Windows Mobile 6 - Full Edition - Version 1 and So far I am very happy with it. And it appears to have all the tools and toys I want and need . . . so far.
Thanks,
If one doesn't already exist, someone please set up a wiki page for comparisons and we'll sticky it.
V
vijay555 said:
If one doesn't already exist, someone please set up a wiki page for comparisons and we'll sticky it.
V
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This is the best there is at the moment.
Not my work just bringing it to your attn
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Cooked_ROMs
(bottom of page)
Custel Cingular 1.2
The only WM6 ROM I have upgraded to is Custel's Cingular 1.2. It was a problem free upgrade and I have not experienced a single freeze and the only soft resets I have done were those required to install other applications. Unless someone, including HTC or Cingular, comes out with a version that adds features that I can't live without (and are not added to these cooked ROM's on this forum as CABs), I will be happy to stay with my current version.
I got my Rhodium 3 weeks now but I have already a list of problems. I like to share them with you and maybe you can share your problems with us.
Problem's
1. After one week my screen broke. (T mobile send my a new vario V)
2. When I want to use a program like need for speed. My Rhodium has not
enough memory. Until I turn of and on my Rhodium and then it works.
(when I use the reset button it won't work)
3. In the taskbar there is always a sign that I have a new message but I
don't have.
4. Sometime the batery icon say my battery is empty but it isn't.
5. When I whant to go online it always asks are you sure. I hate that.
If there are more problems I will update.
I hope That there is somebody out there who can fix all our problems.
these have nothing to do with htc touch pro2 itself dude!
it's about the rom you installed in it,so pls return to your technician to get a good rom!
it's like you have super good pc,but the windows xp you installed is crap,then your pc will always get this problem and that......
FYI: rom means: OS(wm 6.5 for example)+Radio(GSM etc)+Extrom(touchflo 3d etc)
It's threads like these that scare people away from this excellent device and WinMo in general. I've never experienced any of your problems and I'm quite certain most users have not as well. It's obvious your negative experience is among the isolated incidents that every device suffers from. Otherwise, the numerous web reviews would have mentioned them.
Btw, nokiadashi, what's with the funky font size/color in all your posts? I think you'll be doing us all a favor by sticking with the default font size and color unless there's something you really want to highlight.
Hi All
I made an upgrade yesterday; I previously had the stock HTC rom with Windows Mobile 6.1 & TouchFlo 2.1, and I hard reset, then upgraded to the official HTC Windows Mobile version 6.5.
Are there any other users who prefer the old version? The phone seemed so much smoother before the upgrade, it almost feels as though the hardware isn't up to the job of running the new version. I even preferred the old black and white Touch Flo menu colours, the colour ones don't look as nice. I don't really see any amazing 'must-have' new features on the OS either - as a result, i'll be 'downgrading' my phone, back to the old ROM 1.19.401.1 later today.
I wondered if there are others who feel the same way, or am I just not giving the new OS time to win me over?
Have a good weekend everyone....
LJ
Glad its not just me then...
Same here. I very much prefer WM 6.1. Multitasking on WM 6.5 is a pain and it is slow. Only problem is that I cannot initiate VoiceCommand over Bluetooth on the 6.1 ROM. That is the only reason why I moved to 6.5. And nobody seems to know a cooked 6.1 ROM that enables voicecommand over bluetooth.
Same here. After upgrading, and installing a few programs, I started having stability issues. Nothing serious, but I hadn't noticed that on WM6.1. Also, the battery consumption is higher, the memory consumtion is higher (I've seen it use as much as 85% of memory, which leaves about 40-45Mb free), and TF3D looks like it's half finished.
I've already flashed back to WM6.1. Maybe I'll try again if HTC releases an updated WM6.5, but until then I intend to enjoy my device with the original ROM.
Same here, tho I'll maybe try it again when verizon gets theirs together. After trialing many cooked 6.5's on my old tp I'm not a big fan. I think my tp2 as is, is a very outstanding device.
6.5 was on my TP2 for about 15 minutes. it seemed slower then the Orange shipped 6.1 ROM I've been happy with, but without any benefits. So im back on the Orange ROM.
May I ask how many of you have HardSPL'd to install an upgrade not meant for your device?
I only ask this because most others (including me) have noticed a marked improvement. Disregarding colours layout etc. as they are only personal preference.
I wonder if we are getting back to the old Kaiser/Tilt scenario where people forget the devices marketed for the US are HW different from the rest of the world due to US laws and US operators requirements and US having a different radio system to most others?
JMHO
Farsquidge said:
May I ask how many of you have HardSPL'd to install an upgrade not meant for your device?
I only ask this because most others (including me) have noticed a marked improvement. Disregarding colours layout etc. as they are only personal preference.
I wonder if we are getting back to the old Kaiser/Tilt scenario where people forget the devices marketed for the US are HW different from the rest of the world due to US laws and US operators requirements and US having a different radio system to most others?
JMHO
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You make a very good point. In my case, the device in question is a standard, stock, UK unbranded TP2 from HTC, so I this scenario does not apply in my case, but I have tried it on a Vodafone UK handset which HAS been HardSPL'ed. Most people who are familiar with the Vodafone UK ROM know that it's plain ugly with one of the worst themes known to man
But yeah, it could indeed be the reason why some people are having problems.
I'm glad i'm not the only one who feels this way too though - thanks all for sharing your thoughts. I guess in my case, a lot of it is just down to personal preference - plus, without realising it, the phone already did everything I needed it to, and did it well enough for me - so I don't really know what I thought 6.5 was going to do that would change that.
Just my 2 cents.
Cheers all...
You could always turn off the TF3D and other Win 6.5 stuff and have a 6.1-ish homescreen in 6.5
But I love the new interface, it took me about 3 hours to get used to, and now I'd never go back
I'm a fan of 6.1 but it really sucks that all the new tf3d won't work on 6.1. I've come to terms with 6.5.1. I like that version of 6.5 but the regular interface to me just sucks!!
lol - Snap!
Im not overly fussed about TF versions and what not, the device is plainly slower on 6.5
(Stock UK HTC)
GermanGuy said:
Same here. I very much prefer WM 6.1. Multitasking on WM 6.5 is a pain and it is slow. Only problem is that I cannot initiate VoiceCommand over Bluetooth on the 6.1 ROM. That is the only reason why I moved to 6.5. And nobody seems to know a cooked 6.1 ROM that enables voicecommand over bluetooth.
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I disagree, I have been using 6.5 on my Tytn II for ages and when I finally got my TP2 on Vodafone here in the UK I came home, HardSPL'd it and found a cooked 6.5 ROM that I liked (Thanks NRG) I have experienced no problems at all and it gets rid of the ugly Voda theme too.
I love 6.5 and couldn't stay on 6.1 for longer then I did.
Winmo 6.1 v 6.5 on touch pro2
Initially the upgrade was staccatto but a new hard reset fixed that. Wifi turns itself off now but gProfile still works so no worries there. MMS have gone back to early TP 1 mistake of flipping the image by 90degrees for MMS (annoying).
Battery life seems better and the web scrolls better with fingers (or is that me)
Couple of oddities -e.g. Text boxes dont wrap well on web pages. Also i have had to restart more often then 6.1. (tp2 6.1 is the most stable winmo ppc i have ever known)
I shall stick with it for now I think however.
In the end, I believe the phrase "To each his own.." is most appropriate. Some love WM 6.1, some love 6.5 and others absolute hate any official/stock ROM. That's the beauty of the HTC dev community, I think there is something for everyone!
Are they still using that horrible WIDCOMM bluetooth stack/driver on WM6.5 upgrade?
I totally agree with you.
I have downgraded to Orange's stock ROM.... That's the first time I find a stock ROM better than an official or cooked ROM.
It starts using 42% or less RAM
It works "correctly" (stilll has unexplained problems) with BB Connect.
It works fast (of course, there's 58% RAM left for software execution).... and with a few chnages, the GPS is effective.
What I miss from WM 6.5 is just the My Location option that doesn't exist in Orange's ROM.
I'll wait for their official 6.5 ROM and maybe will test it...
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I disagree, I have been using 6.5 on my Tytn II for ages and when I finally got my TP2 on Vodafone here in the UK I came home, HardSPL'd it and found a cooked 6.5 ROM that I liked (Thanks NRG) I have experienced no problems at all and it gets rid of the ugly Voda theme too.
I love 6.5 and couldn't stay on 6.1 for longer then I did.
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So you never really tried 6.1 on the TP2 and don't have a basis for comparison? (obviously 6.5 on the TP2 will work a lot better than on a TytnII, it's a case of apples and oranges).
Will try the upgrade when it comes out. Though I know from the screen shots I prefer the colour layout of TF3D2.1 to the colour icons of TF3D2.5
But I'll give it a try and go with what works best for me.
solsearch said:
...Will try the upgrade when it comes out. Though I know from the screen shots I prefer the colour layout of TF3D2.1 to the colour icons of TF3D2.5
But I'll give it a try and go with what works best for me.
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You may want to check out this post of mine if you really don't like the color icons that HTC provided...
Power Functions in 6.1
I started a thread, posted in multiple threads, exchanged P.M.s, searched like it was my job and flashed multiple 6.1 variants. The one function, or lack thereof, that was the deciding factor for me was the power saving functionality in the media players response to pressing the power button to turn the screen off to save battery. It would stop the music playback!
My old Herald did this. The Fuze did this. Both on 6.1 Roms. Why the TP2 could not, with the smooth Tmobile stock Rom, I could not understand. I used so many different playes that all worked in the past. My current favorite is Nitrogen. But since I listen to music so much I couldn't have the sreen, even 'dim', for the hours I listen to music. My battery would be dead in no time.
This, ultimately, was the reason for me flashing and sticking with 6.5. If any one has found the magic registry edit or whatever for this fix, let me know.
Do you listen to your music with the speaker? Because my stock 6.1 US TMo TP2 continues to play via headphones just fine after pressing the power button. I'm no audiophile but I could not imagine listening to music on that speaker. Just thinking about it makes me shudder.
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hi sorry if this has been posted millions of times but does anyone know if there is a fast wm6.5 becuase when ever if use them they r about 18mb for programs and that realy slowws it down so if u know of a rom that runs about 25mb when ur actually using it not what the post says anything better would be amazing thx sorry if this has already been posted
If you want really stable ROMs: 218xx builds (where the Start button is at the top)
Or try the newest Moonspell ROMs, they're more finger-friendly and you can choose different versions (with Manila, Titanium or Lite).
thx i tried nearly all of the moonspel and they are really good but have alot of lag
so buy a new device that has more ram and rom... or use 6.1
or write feedback to know wich problems it has maybe this will be closed many people can comes and see ... mmm so moonspell roms has lags...
maybe trying newer devices with newer OS gives you a new dimension of why does hermes has lag with 6.5
cheers
What did you expect? The Hermes is 3 years old, was the flagship that led to a lot of the newer phones and is insufficient in the RAM department. It works pretty well for its age...
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What did you expect? The Hermes is 3 years old, was the flagship that led to a lot of the newer phones and is insufficient in the RAM department. It works pretty well for its age...
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I agree, The Hermes is a great device and it's easy to try everything to get it work. Only RAM (a big problem for me). I have so many good apps but i can't put it in rom because the RAM is not too much for all apps. It make me many time headache during cooking roms.
The new build wm6.5 doesn't work really good with old apps, i expert to buy new one or except the ROMs how it offer you in the Hermes development.
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Let me ask a couple of dumb questions.
What are Titanium roms?
What are manila2d roms?
Everyone talks about memory. Does having flash memory make any difference?
Can added titanium plugins be run from the flash memory?
XDA Shutdown. What is it?
How do you install a theme, like one of the 6.5 titanium themes?
Is there any way to turn the phones GSM off and use the wifi by itself? I don't have a data pkg with my carrier.
Titanium and Manila are basically today screen plugins. Go to Settings>Home>Items, you'll see some plugins there (Titanium is Windows Default, Manila is TouchFlo2D). The difference to the "old" owner/calendar/tasks plugins is that they are more finger-friendly.
For the other questions, just read a bit in the forums .
thanks
Yes, I've been reading...thousands of posts going back 3 years. I thought I would cut to the chase and ask a direct question.
What you think was the right thing to tell me about Titanium, meant Jack to me. I do know that some roms have Titanium and some don't. There is a whole page of wm6.5 titanium skins, but at this point, I still don't know what Titanium is. You say go to Settings..Home..Items. I'm using one of the roms from mr moonspell. His wm7 project rom. When I go to Settings..Home...Items, I see "Windows default", "Date", "wireless","Owner info". That's not telling me what titanium is.
I need a definition. I see roms with a scrolling, vertical line of words like
Text
Accessories
Connections
Multimedia
etc
Is that Titanium?
On Pays 6.1 Rom, its different. There is no vertical line of words.
I'm asking the question. What makes that rom structure different from mine? Or what is the name of it?
When I do a search for "XDA shutdown", I get 100s of posts, none telling me what it is. I guess I'll just wait til someone else has the time to answer the other questions. But thanks for answering one of them.
When I search for XDA Shutdown, I get this .
Try to disable all items, tap on OK and go to your Home Screen. You only see your wallpaper. Now enable Windows Default, and you'll see what Titanium is once you go to the home screen. The same for Manila, it's just another kind of interface. Some ROMs have those cooked in, while others don't.
That scrolling line is your Start Menu, in normal 6.5 ROMs it has a hexagon structure but some people have customized it to display as a list.
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Okay, I understand what you mean now. The honeycomb structure. That's what you're referring to.
I read the XDA shutdown, but don't quite understand. On my phone, I have an icon and it says XDA shutdown. Is this
just another way to shut the phone down? Pressing XDA Shutdown, instead of the power button?
Well, XDA Shutdown offers more features - turn off, soft-reset and shut down (like taking out the battery).
And do you now understand what Titanium is? The honeycomb structure is unrelated, it's just the Start Menu.
titanium
yes, I understand what titanium is.
problem
I had gotten a little afraid to touch too much. I first installed Pays 6.1 rom. I clicked on an icon I didn't know what was. It was an icon of a phone with light bulb next to it. Suddenly, my phone went dark. I couldn't see anything to make any changes back. I did a hard reset to get it back to normal. This is my first pocketpc phone. I'm used to the old phones that dont have windows on them. These phones are much more complicated.
Ah, you were in Settings>System>Backlight and set the screen brightness to zero. Your screen was on, you could have seen something if there was some light around you .
Just open the Comm Manager by pressing the hardware button on the right side under the power button, there you can turn off the GSM.
I recommend you to just play around a bit, that bad experience of your is really singular .
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This phone is like carrying around a brick. Its too big to put in my pocket. I tried keeping it in my coat pocket, but getting out of the car, its easy to fall out. Looks like all the new phones for 2010 are these big screen ones. I see in Comm manager where I can turn the phone off and the wifi on, so I plan to keep the phone atleast to use for the internet. My contract runs out in October. There is a new carrier here in the states, owned by Walmart, on the Verizon network. $45/month unlimited everything or $30/month 1000 minutes, 1000 text and 30 meg web. No contract either. I'm gonna go with them.