My T-Mobile USA (standard ROM) Tp2 behaved very strangely earlier today, but seems to have recovered. Anyone had any similar experience?
a) Battery level decreased rapidly, and unit getting very warm
b) Battery Status today plugin showed > 900ma (and sometimes > 1300ma!!) current draw
c) Unit would not charge from my USB port (message that it wasn't providing enough current)
d) I put flight mode on, no appreciable change in behavior with all radios off.
e) Soft reset - no change
f) Task manager didn't show anything using undue amounts of CPU
In the end, I turned it off (completely), and it would then charge normally. Left it like that for two or three hours, and when I turned it back on everything seems to be ok.
I have a lot of software on there, but nothing installed new in the last few days. It's worked perfectly today - best cell phone or PDA I've had since my trusty Phillips Velo...
While this was happening it seemed slightly sluggish, but certainly not locked up. Only 'unusual' thing - yesterday I let the battery get real very low for the first time (left it with the screen on, and an app running). I almost wonder if somehow there's a power management issue recovering from this. Note - it was never completely dead, just very low.
Anyone had anything similar happen? I assume the problem is in the phone, not the battery (otherwise I wouldn't have seen the current draw)
-Steve
you can try to hard reset and put everything back in...
what i usually do is turn off 3g because it consumes a lot of battery..i'd use wifi as much as possible or edge.
you can try using cleanRam to clean up some excess space on the phone.
not sure about the charge, you might need to restart your PC or reinstall active sync so it can detect the phone.
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you can try to hard reset and put everything back in...
what i usually do is turn off 3g because it consumes a lot of battery..i'd use wifi as much as possible or edge.
you can try using cleanRam to clean up some excess space on the phone.
not sure about the charge, you might need to restart your PC or reinstall active sync so it can detect the phone.
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He's not talking about ActiveSync or not detecting his phone.
However, I notice this behaviour almost all the time (device runs out of battery within one night) but only see those large power consumptions sometimes.
My device cannot be seen by any PC I tried (after first installing Mobile Center) so maybe there's a flaw in some devices?
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He's not talking about ActiveSync or not detecting his phone.
However, I notice this behaviour almost all the time (device runs out of battery within one night) but only see those large power consumptions sometimes.
My device cannot be seen by any PC I tried (after first installing Mobile Center) so maybe there's a flaw in some devices?
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Yes -sorry I didn't make that clear. Phone was working ok (including activesync) - it's just that it was trying to take too much current from the USB port.
This has only happened once (fingers crossed!). I'm sure it's software (rather than a hardware fault), but I'm puzzled given that the task manager showed minimal CPU usage, and the power drain continued in airplane mode
-Steve
Your reception is probably bad. The TP2 will basically go insane if the reception is bad enough, I've seen it drain a fully charged battery in under 3 hours if you have push data turned on and there's 0-1 bars of reception. The battery life is quite good when reception is at least a few bars but once it goes below a certain point I've definitely noticed that the phone goes insane and will get noticeably warm in the pocket and basically die within a few hours.
Turning off push data will get you slightly better battery life in this scenario but unfortunately I still found that the battery would still be dead by the time I needed to use it. And it's not a network issue either since I tested it on different networks and compared it to other smartphones dealing with the same terrible reception-this phone definitely uses an insane amount of power when reception is bad, which isn't a problem if you're just transiently going through a bad reception area (probably helps keep the signal from dropping) but if you're spending a few hours in a place with poor reception it will drain insanely quickly.
Thankfully I'm spending my time in places with better reception now-I basically ended up having to turn off the phone if I wanted it to still have power by the end of the day but now it's still nearly full at the end of the day with just moderate reception.
HTC should really change the phone's behavior when there's 0-1 bars-it's nice that it tries to find a network aggressively when it loses a signal but there should be a timeout on it where it should start checking at longer intervals if there's a long period of no signals unless someone's trying to make a call or something. Really useless when you put your phone down for 2 hours in some overly shielded building and when you pick it up to make a call and it's dead. Not to mention uncomfortable when it starts heating up like crazy.
I'm not sure why you still got battery drainage even in airplane mode though but maybe the phone had already gone into whatever insane mode it goes into when the reception gets bad. Maybe it's one of the apps running the background that freaked out as well? I think my battery life was still kinda bad in airplane mode as well, for some reason I had to literally turn the phone off to get it to stop killing the battery.
i get zero bars at work and no reception. i've noticed that at work, my phone gets destroyed and lags like crazy and barely usable. it gets no reception for 8 hrs so its nice to know that other ppl are experiencing this problem and its not just me.
my tilt did this today, was warm to the touch, idled' didn't use it all day 6 hrs idle with signal, battery drained to 50% made a phone call 13 min duration, put the phone down watched a 2 hr show, phone dead.
not from signal/data.
My Tilt2 stock rom appears to have done the exact same thing today. Yesterday it had low battery for the first time ever... then today, it completely died in my pocket while at work (usually I have about 80% battery left at the end of the day). I noticed early this morning that the phone dropped from 100% to 60% about 2 hrs after it was off the charger. The phone felt hot. No programs were running in the background either. When i saw this, i ran cleanram and it still died a few hours later. Reset the phone and charging it now, hopefully this was a one time thing?
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Your reception is probably bad. The TP2 will basically go insane if the reception is bad enough, I've seen it drain a fully charged battery in under 3 hours if you have push data turned on and there's 0-1 bars of reception. T....
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I think this might be it. Reception at work is normally really good (there's a tower in our parking lot!) - but I noticed today they are working on it.
The strange thing is that putting it in flight mode did not stop the power drain - to me that just doesn't make sense. However, I'm thinking that when I first did a soft reset, it probably wasn't in flight mode. So, the complete manual power down, followed by the resulting soft-reset into airplane mode) might be what fixed it.
My phone is often in areas of poor coverage (NW CT) - pretty much every day to/from work, and I've not seen this behavior with the TP2 before. Other GSM phones I've had do noticeably use more phone in areas of poor/non existent coverage, but this was a relative melt-down - I did wonder whether I had an internal short.
It's been ok since, and I'll report any future incidents or findings...
Happened to me two times, I figgured the problem was the GPS connection, improper exit from GPS app (AmazeGPS). Can be related to GoogleMaps or other app too. After restart, everything went back to normal.
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Happened to me two times, I figgured the problem was the GPS connection, improper exit from GPS app (AmazeGPS). Can be related to GoogleMaps or other app too. After restart, everything went back to normal.
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If that is so, how can we check if the GPS is still running?
I do a reset often, but that won't change a thing...
Besides, when I look, the power consumption often is 'slightly above normal' - 150maH-250maH.
btw: what is considered as normal consumption?
Battery Status plugin
I hate to sound like a fool, but I'm running the stock ATT Rom on my Tilt 2, and I cant find the "Battery Status today plugin" you mentioned. Is that a T-Mobile only thing?
Is there a .cab for it?
To reply to the primary topic though, I've experienced the heat increase/battery drain level thing, but it just started yesterday after I installed a whole bunch of stuff. This weekend I'm planning to hard-reset and load stuff slowly so maybe I can isolate the cause.
I'll post an update if I figure anything out.
FWIW - I've recently been trying to track down a battery drain, too.
For me, though, the drain has correlated with trying out SPB Mobile Shell 3, so that is clearly a likely candidate. However, the drain does seem to be mainly limited to night time.
For example, on Sunday the phone dropped to only around 80% after a full day out and about. However, by Monday morning it was down to 10%.
Similar results on Tuesday night - almost complete drain by the morning.
To see if I could work out what was going on, I installed acbTaskMan yesterday, and set it to log CPU overnight (it periodically logs CPU usage, power drain and the top three CPU users).
Unfortunately, there isn't any *obvious* candidate:
Microsoft "My Phone" kicked in for a couple of minutes and used quite a lot of power (max of 493ma). However, this dropped off once "My Phone" had done its stuff.
A lot of the time, its actually acbTaskMan which is the top user of CPU (probably unsurprising, given it is monitoring and logging).
There does seem to be a bit of residual network traffic - every five minutes (or so) there are a few UDP and TCP packets being sent.
Overall, the average reported power usage was about 113ma (with the max being 493 and the min being 5!). However, the reporting period seems a little odd - most of the time it reports every 5 seconds, but there are a few periods earlier in the night where there are gaps of up to 5 minutes.
What would people generally expect the average power usage to be when on standby?
FWIW The comments in this thread about low signal could certainly be relevant. I do have pretty low signal at home and I did leave the phone in a slightly different place last night (where it could have had a better signal than the two nights before).
My current hypothesis is that
Something in Mobile Shell is causing the network connection to keep alive all night (or is at least turning it on every five minutes).
This coupled with poor coverage in my house is hosing the battery. During the day, with good coverage, the network traffic isn't causing as much of a problem.
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eepyaich said:
FWIW - I've recently been trying to track down a battery drain, too.
For me, though, the drain has correlated with trying out SPB Mobile Shell 3, so that is clearly a likely candidate. However, the drain does seem to be mainly limited to night time.
For example, on Sunday the phone dropped to only around 80% after a full day out and about. However, by Monday morning it was down to 10%.
Similar results on Tuesday night - almost complete drain by the morning.
To see if I could work out what was going on, I installed acbTaskMan yesterday, and set it to log CPU overnight (it periodically logs CPU usage, power drain and the top three CPU users).
Unfortunately, there isn't any *obvious* candidate:
Microsoft "My Phone" kicked in for a couple of minutes and used quite a lot of power (max of 493ma). However, this dropped off once "My Phone" had done its stuff.
A lot of the time, its actually acbTaskMan which is the top user of CPU (probably unsurprising, given it is monitoring and logging).
There does seem to be a bit of residual network traffic - every five minutes (or so) there are a few UDP and TCP packets being sent.
Overall, the average reported power usage was about 113ma (with the max being 493 and the min being 5!). However, the reporting period seems a little odd - most of the time it reports every 5 seconds, but there are a few periods earlier in the night where there are gaps of up to 5 minutes.
What would people generally expect the average power usage to be when on standby?
FWIW The comments in this thread about low signal could certainly be relevant. I do have pretty low signal at home and I did leave the phone in a slightly different place last night (where it could have had a better signal than the two nights before).
My current hypothesis is that
Something in Mobile Shell is causing the network connection to keep alive all night (or is at least turning it on every five minutes).
This coupled with poor coverage in my house is hosing the battery. During the day, with good coverage, the network traffic isn't causing as much of a problem.
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you might want to try this.
Under MyPhone, disable the Current Location.
Under HTC Settings->Location, disable all the location information.
See whether this helps?
Thanks - this is a good idea.
However, I think I may have uncovered a more fundamental (and dumb) cause. Somehow (probably user error, but I'd like to think some nefarious impact of installing the SPb stuff), my "peak" times for Activesync had been changed from 8am to 6:30pm, to 8pm to 6:30pm. This completely explains why my connection kicked in every 5 minutes overnight (as this is what my "peak" exchange sync is set to).
Having fixed that (!) I'll see whether my power usage is miraculously better tonight! If not, I'll give the location stuff a go too!
Ed
Checking mail all night is not a good idea!
Ahh yes - much better now. I went to bed at 80% battery and woke up at 70%.
The task manager log has logged far fewer points (only 300 logs over 7.5 hours, as opposed to the 5400 that I'd expect if it were logging every 5s), which I guess indicates that most of the night my phone was in "deep standby", or whatever one might call it.
FWIW I certainly recommend acbTaskMan as the logs it produces are very handy to spot what is going on for this kind of thing. For example, even in a low battery drain night I can spot exactly when various services are using the network (e.g. checking mail, Google Maps updating its latitude stuff, etc.)
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I noticed somethin strange last night.
The battery was still for 63% full when I turned the device off (Yes, really turned it off!) and still next morning the battery was completely empty!
Now how is that possible? I do have two batteries, which do exactly the same, so I could test this with the other one, but this seems to be seriously wrong!
I had a similar problem with Sprint. after several trial errors, I traced the problem to the Verizon radio (2.23) I used after SIM unlocking. I went back to sprint 1.96 and voila. Since then now I have moved to Sprint 2.32WU and it works even better.
Another battery saver is this trick "disconnect network when idle for 1 min timeout":
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=69185
Had same thing happen...new tilt (1 month old) got hot and drained battery in 3 hrs with no use! I believe its a GPS program such as googlemaps or Trapster that caused it. A soft reset and im golden. Hate having to soft reset all the time
see this often, almost always because gps is running and did not shutdown when the program using the gps was closed. Chartcross GPS test will show you if the gps is running or not and usually will allow you to exit, and stop the gps induced battery drain. I have gotten in the habit of doing soft reset after using tomtom or google maps, to ensure that GPS is off.
At least for at&t devices, gps is the culprit for huge battery drain, hot to the touch. I will add that little or no signal to the phone will do the same thing. When I am in marginal coverage area, I turn off 3G and that seems to stop the excessive drain and heat build up due to low signal strength.
Not straightforward, for sure and one has to pay attention to the device, or when you need it most, the battery is done.
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Today was my first day at work since i got my Desire on Sat. So it was the day without regular charging.
Firstly, reception was poor as compared to what i was getting with Touch Pro 2. Same network (Orange), same place, less signal bars and less 3G coverage.
Secondly, unplugged phone 7 o'clock this morning, 100% charged. All day only had time for couple of calls (10-15mins). Used internet (3G when available) for max 20-30mins. Tried couple of games for 15-20 mins and at 7 o'clock at night, the battery was 15%. This is not a heavy use by my standards. Used to do a lot more on Touch Pro2 and battery used to last 2-3days. (I know the capaciy difference btw Desire and TP2 battery but still, Desire should last atleat > 24hours)
Not sure if all these issues are related to Orange ROM/Radio. Will we (on Orange) get OTA firmware update like T-mobile, which has apparently improved their battery life? If not then ...... :-(. Not satisfied with the battery life. Shame it is such a good phone but battery life and signal strength is putting me off.
Whats the fun if you have a "superphone" in your pocket but cannot use it to its full potential due to these two isuues.
Mine was the same,
But after a weeks worth of usage, its now reasonable, IE 18 hours between charges,
Fon22
I totally agree, there are other posts telling us to turn off or reduce all sorts of settings, its ridiculous that you would have to run any phone at less than its full potential just to compensate for a poor battery.
Sure you could buy a second battery but if that was necessary then they should put two in the box
If you leave gps on then you are asking for trouble, a lesser extent wifi. Having a toggle on off isn't such a hardship though. Poor signal hammers the battery too.
I easily last the working day (7-7) with an hour of music and 2 hours surfing and a smattering of calls and texts.
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If you leave gps on then you are asking for trouble, a lesser extent wifi. Having a toggle on off isn't such a hardship though. Poor signal hammers the battery too.
I easily last the working day (7-7) with an hour of music and 2 hours surfing and a smattering of calls and texts.
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Come on guys, if you have a laptop, and you turn on bluetooth, wi-fi, play some games etc, it WILL run the battery down faster. It's just common sense. Just because this phone does heaps of things, dosn't mean it will last forever. As phones get more features, they are getting worse battery life - in general. And android is a data centric device, I would get used to it, or simply turn off some synching features if you need to get through more than half a day. Or perhaps get a spare battery etc.
Just out of curiosity did you have your previous phone to constantly sync throughout the day for time, email, google account, marketplace updates, location, weather using gps, 3g, hsdpa, accelerometer etc? Remember some of these connect are activated every 5 mins or so. Will make it worse if you have poor reception. COMMON SENSE PPL!
My issue is that even after the T-Mobile update, last night I charged phone on this time and it would only get to 98% again. Then drop down quickly.
If I charge it off, It seems to be ok (although I will test this again.)
Frustrating.
My battery life is woeful (TMo uk, updated firmware). I've been trying to figure it out using Juice Plotter to record power usage. Basically, whatever I'm doing, if it's on the battery falls off a cliff - I'd say 10% per 30m and my first impression is that it makes little difference whether networking is enabled or not. This makes little sense to me, I've always found in the past that 3G is just about the most power intensive activity on the smartphone, but it's consistent with some experiences I had flashing roms on my Blackstone - some of them would just run the battery down, others would go for ages. One hypothesis is that when a phone is in that kind of "sick" power state, the drain is not really related to which facilities you're using, but something deeper - perhaps the CPU is running full throttle all the time, or something else. I have no idea what's going on right now but I know I have an unusable phone which lasts half the time my Blackstone did with heavier use. I think many others have the same problem and I wonder if there's a bad batch. Bad news if so as we'd have trouble proving it and getting exchanges.
My next step I think will be to hard reset and run it in a very basic mode for a while, maybe some of the apps are causing it.
I'm also finding out that battery life improves dramatically after the 5th 6th charge. When I first got my Desire I could barely make it through the day, after properly charging and letting it discharge all the way to 10-15% now I get 18-20h of battery life with wi-fi on non stop (but with the setting to to turn itself off after 15mins of inactivity).
I was very worried about this when I first got the phone, but now it's starting to be better and better at battery life. I know my demands from a smartphone when I buy it and if a phone get's me through the day I'm OK with that, plus I have chargers at home, in my car, at work, so it's not a problem
I've got one of the very first batch of T-mobile Desires that were shipped on 26th March. It has been updated with the T-mobile 1.15.110.11 patch.
I last charged it on Saturday afternoon. I've only had to start charging it again this morning Tuesday. I've been making a few calls, probably 10-15 minutes total. A few texts. Browsing with G and 3G, maybe a few of hours worth in total. Little bit of Bluetoothing, though that's only a couple of minutes worth. I've had it down the pub a few hours where the T-mobile signal isn't brilliant, so it will have been doing a little "shouting" to find and communicate with the nearest T-mobile mast.
But that means it's lasted a good 66 hours admittedly with fairly moderate use. GPS, Wifi and Bluetooth are turned off unless needed. And it's not regularly Syncing with Facebook, Twitter and all that stuff. The only regular syncing is the weather.
Not sure if these are bugs with some hardware/software or standard functionality with your usages. I'm getting excellent battery life with my usage patterns/settings and far happier with this than with any of my previous devices, since this adds an exorbitant amount of power-draining functionality and flexibility over them too.
- Heaviest use is netting 28-33 hours.
- Typical use is getting minimum 3-3.5 days.
- Light use (also the norm for me me) lasted 5.5-6 days.
- Basic inconsistent call/message/email/net/stocks/news/stop watch/GPS/ compass/notepad/office/weather/ vid/pic/audio throughout the day kept the battery at 84% after 24 hours. 3G off, using WiFi. I don't keep any but the needy apps/settings running BTW.
- Charges to 100% always and stays up there consistently as expected.
However there is a pertinent aspect yet unmentioned;
Biggest difference between my usage and the typical internet crowd is that I don't use or bother with "social networking" (Facebook, MySpace, Twitter, etc) or its likes nor do I play any games on this (hence sync with such apps is off and any updates are set to manual). However rss feeds, e-mail and IMs with close ones I do use during the day when I have spare minutes.
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I've got one of the very first batch of T-mobile Desires that were shipped on 26th March. It has been updated with the T-mobile 1.15.110.11 patch.
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Same situation as mine there.
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I'm deffo leaning now that there are faulty batteries out there causing the problem. I can get good life if I can get the battery to charge properly. but when it doesn't battery lasts hardly half a day. I don't use any apps that require automatic updates (all manual or off). But net on drains it very quickly (if I leave data on). Faulty Batteries I feel.
My Desire has a better ability to hang on to a weak signal than my other phones. I am on T-mobile. Battery life is adeqaute, in that, I can get through a day of use before a charge is needed. Will switch-off GPS and see what happens -I never had GPS on all the time on my other Smartphones.
Coming from a G1 that could barely make it through the day on standby this phone seems pretty good.
I got mine last friday it has just come off of it's third charge. I charged it for 3 hours when I got it, ran it right down >10% then left to charge up fully again.
I installed JuiceDefender and bought the UltimateJuice upgrade as soon as I got the phone.
Day 2 (with JuiceDefender) - battery lasted 13h27m, thats with WiFi, phone calls, MMS, 3g, internet browsing/showing it off to mates in the pub and then listening to an album on spotify in the car.
Considering this is a new battery and it still needs several charges before it is working at full capacity, I think that is pretty good for a smart phone! It can only get better, right?
JuiceDefender - I can't recommend this app enough, I don't want to mess about with Task Killers (that don't really save battery), I don't want to stop stuff syncing (because thats the whole point of this phone) but I want to optimize my battery life to get me through the day and this app does it so well!
I've currently got it setup to turn 2g/3g off when in standby but set to turn data back on every 5mins for 30s to allow apps to sync. You can specify a longer interval which will obviously save more battery over the course of a day. The phone connects back to a 2/3g connection so quick when you bring it out of standby so your not waiting around to get back online.
Switch on WiFi at known locations - I have this setup because at home, 3g signal is a bit patchy and it probably uses more battery constantly trying to get a 3g signal all the time, than it does if it is just connected to WiFi.
Turn data off between 2am-8am while I am sleeping.
Turn data off when battery is below 15% - with my G1 it would hit 15% just as I'd be heading home on the train in the evening, so I'd turn data off just so I could send a few texts or so I had just enough battery to make a call. So I figured I might as well use that last 15% battery for basic phone operation and give me enough battery to get home! I probably don't need this with the Desire though.
Any one else using JuiceDefender?
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Not sure if these are bugs with some hardware/software or standard functionality with your usages. I'm getting excellent battery life with my usage patterns/settings and far happier with this than with any of my previous devices, since this adds an exorbitant amount of power-draining functionality and flexibility over them too.
- Heaviest use is netting 28-33 hours.
- Typical use is getting minimum 3-3.5 days.
- Light use (also the norm for me me) lasted 5.5-6 days.
- Basic inconsistent call/message/email/net/stocks/news/stop watch/GPS/ compass/notepad/office/weather/ vid/pic/audio throughout the day kept the battery at 84% after 24 hours. 3G off, using WiFi. I don't keep any but the needy apps/settings running BTW.
- Charges to 100% always and stays up there consistently as expected.
However there is a pertinent aspect yet unmentioned;
Biggest difference between my usage and the typical internet crowd is that I don't use or bother with "social networking" (Facebook, MySpace, Twitter, etc) or its likes nor do I play any games on this (hence sync with such apps is off and any updates are set to manual). However rss feeds, e-mail and IMs with close ones I do use during the day when I have spare minutes.
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WOW, can I have your battery please ...
What did u do to get this powerhouse. Was it weaker in the begining and got better with charges or was it like this from the begining?
I dont use GPS at all. Only for navigation, when in car and then it is on charge. Normal day.. no gps, no auto data connection - do it manually when internet connecttion is neede. But battery doesn't last a day, merely 12-14 hours. Charged 3 times yet, only 3 days old Desire.
I cant find juice defender in the market?
When I first got my Hero I remember my battery life being terrible, most of it was down to fiddling all the time, however over time my usage changed and the battery had been charged a lot the life was a lot better. Also there were a number of radio upgrades installed, which probably helped.
Since I've got my Desire, the "desire" to fiddle hasn't stopped and I feel as if I'm in the same situation as I was with the Hero.
My opinion is that over time the battery life will be better, as with the Hero.
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I cant find juice defender in the market?
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Yes both Ultimate Juice and Juice Defender are in the Market.
Juice defender was missing for me a couple of hours ago. But actually, when I installed it thinkgs started to go wrong for me. May be a coincidence, or may be a conflict with some other sw.
Following shocking power drain, I have hard reset, and left it with nothing syncing and all networking disabled. As you'd expect, battery level is barely falling in standby. Now to start adding things back in and see what efects it has. First step is to spend 30 mins browsing over 3g, previously this would take out 10% of my battery.
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Yes both Ultimate Juice and Juice Defender are in the Market.
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It's not there for me either currently, neither is mybackup pro... :/
I know it ibeta before you all start on me, however 15 minutes of web browsing = 10% loss of battery. At that rate my phone will be dead an hour and half of web browsing
When the phone is just on stand by battery life is fine
Hope they fix this when the "official" release comes out
Wow where did you learn maths?
BETA Roms effect the mind.
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I know it ibeta before you all start on me, however 15 minutes of web browsing = 10% loss of battery. At that rate my phone will be dead an hour and half of web browsing
When the phone is just on stand by battery life is fine
Hope they fix this when the "official" release comes out
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i think it will be 150 minutes and that's not 1,5h
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my phone: few calls, some games - 1,5 day and still 27% of battery
icemac said:
i think it will be 150 minutes and that's not 1,5h
btw
my phone: few calls, some games - 1,5 day and still 27% of battery
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My phone: lots of calls, few minutes wireless =1 day and still 70%. No web browsing.
Agreed 150 mind isn't 1.5hrs. But still bad!
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Agreed 150 mind isn't 1.5hrs. But still bad!
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the screen needs lots of power, processor needs to,
everything needs the power
look it is same like brand new commputer (whit very good graphic card, processor, memory, MB) - you need good and strong power supply without it is crap ...
if you need good long working phone buy something else like :hmm: i dont know what maybe NOKIA with small BW display
no offence
I noticed on the JPC the battery drains soooo fast!
did a full charge while the phone was off today and also deleted the battery stats.. lets see if it improves
icemac said:
the screen needs lots of power, processor needs to,
everything needs the power
look it is same like brand new commputer (whit very good graphic card, processor, memory, MB) - you need good and strong power supply without it is crap ...
if you need good long working phone buy something else like :hmm: i dont know what maybe NOKIA with small BW display
no offence
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I love my SGS and will not being going back to Nokia, also love andriod - just hoping the official release will let me have use for one full day - not too much to ask I dont think
I get 2 days of moderate to high usage with JPC. I think it uses less battery because the GSM signal is better, but the screen uses more power, is always over 90% in battery stats.
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For me it all comes down "display on" time.
if using 3G/edge i get 4,5h
if wifi then 5,5h (no difference if im using it during 1 day or 4 days)
JPC is same as JP3 or JMx
Screen brightness
Just thought I'd say, incase you didn't know, the web browser has it's own brightness setting. That could be killing the battery.
I, for one, already set the brightness to the first level for all aplications that have brightness setting, and still the display sucks the battey like crazy, at list with JPC. With other FW it drops even to 40%.
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speaking of GSM, w/c one is 2G mode for the Galaxy S.. GSM or WCDMA ?
earlz said:
speaking of gsm, w/c one is 2g mode for the galaxy s.. Gsm or wcdma ?
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wcdma = 3g
Battery drain was ridiculous with me. The first night I went to sleep I remember my phone was nearly fully charged, when I woke up at morning it had used around 50%... that is, 50% of the battery for around 6 or 7h just sitting in IDLE! When I actually USED the phone it could barely handle 10h with a full charge, and that's with very moderate usage. I had to leave the phone charing all the time to survive a day with it (charging in my car, charging every time I stopped near an AC outlet, etc). And yeah, the funny thing was noticing how exaggeratedly high the screen battery drain was, even though I wasn't using the screen all that much...
Some other symptoms of the high battery drain:
-Charging the phone took FOREVER with the phone being used, took a LOT of time with the phone sitting Idle, but if I turned the off the battery would actually charge very fast... that proved that the phone was draining so much energy even the AC charger (or USB outlet) couldn't effectively charge the battery while supplying power to the phone...
-The phone got HOT very easily...
How did I solve it?
Well, yesterday I decided I would reflash my device. I did a full reflash (as I always do) including a re-repartion. Now the funny thing that I noticed was that my phone actually wouldn't flash! It would always crash at the Galaxy S welcome screen... I have never flashed it using my notebook (since I'm traveling), but I used the exact same procedure I always use with my desktop back home, for some reason it wasn't working. Maybe some corrupt file? I re-downloaded ALL files (that is, Odin with the 803 pit file, and the JPC files)...
For my surprise, this time my phone hanged in a green screen, and it was really scary. I even thought perhaps the Nokia USB cable I was using was causing some kind of incompatibility problem, but that would make no sense at all... so I entered the recovery menu in my phone and reset EVERYTHING, and tried flashing it one LAST time (this time closing ALL background apps in my notebook, to avoid any problems)... and there it went, a perfect flash, as easy as they go with my desktop PC back home.
1st thing I did was a hardreset, and then I reflashed it again with Doc's RomMod V2 (was using V1 the day before), and new hardreset in the sequence. Then I changed as little as possible in the phone configurations, I just turned everything off (GPS, wifi, and even the data connection through the power button shortcut), and went to sleep...
For my surprise, the next day I checked the phone's battery use, it had drained only ~4-5% for more then 10hours, this means it would, at least in theory, be able to last for days and days in this setup...
So I installed my apps again (not that I have many), did lagfix, turned widgets and network connection back on... and it has been working like a breeze, although battery drain can still be considered high, it's nowhere close to being as bad as it was before I flashed it, now at least the battery will last a full day with a charge @ my standards of usage, that's good enough for me...
One thing I did change, I remember my screen setup was always at 10/30min for shutdown, I left it like that because I'm always using the phone in situations where the screen will constantly shut down at my face, and that annoyed me... well, this time I actally left the stock 30 seconds for screen shutdown, not sure if it has anything related, but one of the things I noticed before was that my IDLE battery-drain was as high as you'd expect from a phone that had it's screen on all the time... maybe some bug makes the phone drain screen power even with the screen turn off, let's say if you have the 30min turn-off config, your screen will continue to drain power for 30min (and there you have the reason for so much screen draw in the stats), even though the screen is turned off... despite my hardware knowledge telling me that a black screen should NOT be draining power from your phone battery, you never know how far a software bug can fck things up hardware-wise, so I wouldn't be surprise if that actually DID happen...
I could even try setting my screen back to 30min-turnoff just to check if the battery drain will go back to insane levels.. but the fact is that I'm scared of messing it up again, it's working fine the way it is, why mess it up? I figured out some things that get messed up with this phone appear to only get fixed with a new firmware flash, and I really don't feel like having to flash my phone every two days...
Either way, I hope others here can fix their battery drain... it's just my tip: try reflashing, leave everything as stock as you can (only thing I did was Doc's RomMod v2, and later Ryan ZA's lagfix, none of them seem to be related to JPC's battery drain), and see if it helps...
wth I can only get 3.5 hours max
Sent from my phone so excuse the spelling errors
After a week of using JPC I don't see any real difference in battery usage from the original stock rom and JP3, I charge the phone every second night ( battery is usually around 25% at this point).
My usage isn't that high, I have a couple of notifications running and a weather widget that updates hourly, its my alarm clock, my mp3 player to and from work (about 90 minutes a day), I make and receive 4-5 calls a day and send and receive a dozen texts a day, I check face book 3-4 times a day and on a daily basis someone gets a 10-15 minute demonstration of the beauty of this phone(note: don't let a taxi driver play with your phone whilst in heavy traffic, even if it gets a confession that it makes his iphone look like a piece of crap).
As far as screen time outs are concerned, I set mine at 1 minute but always turn the display off manually when I finish doing something with it including after I have started the music player (btw I use bluetooth headset to listen to music but not for phone conversations).
The highest display percentage I have seen is about 85% but the is usually tied in with using gps or browsing, on a day I don't use gps or browsing display is much lower, on a day that the display is pretty much off it drops to about 10-15% usage.
This phone is the first, of the several pda/smart phones I have owned over the years, that I haven't had to charge every day.
Id battery usage is not a problem for me on JPC, 8hrs idle ( sleeping ) and I still got 100% started to use the phone and it rapidly dropped.. now im playing a 2hr movie and see if i can get it to loop for 2-3 times before it shuts off.. if it reaches 6hrs then i would consider the battery usage the same.
Please turn off the GPS and a-GPS....
You will get a much better battery life.....
When the battery life of a phone like this goes bad is it a sudden thing? Or does it gradually hold less charge?
I've been using this phone for the best part of 16months with excellent battery life lasting a week with little use. Now all of a sudden it dies EVERY day when I've charged it the night before.
It doesn't even make it through a day at work if I don't even use it at all. No texting, phoning email or anything and it still dies fast.
It can be sat in my pocket all day and then I come to look at it at 6pm and it's off because the battery ran out again
This normal when the batteries start getting a bit old? I thought it would be more gradual, literally 3 days ago it went like this over night.
Anyone else have this problem?
check power settings to see if your auto backlight/power off settings haven't magically been disabled.
Had the exact same problem. Have followed all suggestions available-
making sure wif-fi/bluetooth off
Applications off
internet optimised
battery left to drain, phone reset and new battery fully charged before turnign back on
and several other procedures. 3 new batterys tried including 1 200o battery.
No luck with anything. i get about 6 hours if i dont keep toppoing up. Have to carry a spare battery everywhere.
Has anyone any solutions!!!!????????????
If you are having the issue even with a brand new battery I'm going to guess something's gone wrong with your device.
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If you are having the issue even with a brand new battery I'm going to guess something's gone wrong with your device.
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Not necessarily.
2OP - did you do a hard reset ? If not, do that, do not load any applications, do not change any settings other than the ActiveSync "fake server" trick (which assume you did already), and see if you still have a problem.
DJ_Enigma said:
When the battery life of a phone like this goes bad is it a sudden thing? Or does it gradually hold less charge?
I've been using this phone for the best part of 16months with excellent battery life lasting a week with little use. Now all of a sudden it dies EVERY day when I've charged it the night before.
It doesn't even make it through a day at work if I don't even use it at all. No texting, phoning email or anything and it still dies fast.
It can be sat in my pocket all day and then I come to look at it at 6pm and it's off because the battery ran out again
This normal when the batteries start getting a bit old? I thought it would be more gradual, literally 3 days ago it went like this over night.
Anyone else have this problem?
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For 16months, i think you made the best of your battery life, i think it would be best to replace it as after 400 charge cycles, the battery deteriorates
One other thing I've noticed is that when the battery does run out, the clock has to be re-setup every time. I never had to do this when my phone ran out before. I'm wondering if this is indicative of a probelm other than just a shabby battery.
Thanks,
G
My tilt 2 had the USB problem (where it (seemingly) charges fine, but it cannot sync).
I noticed that the battery that could go for 2 days with very light use, would not go through more than 1/2 a day even when I don't even touch the phone.
I woud try to plug the phone into a computer via a USB cable and see if the computer recognizes the device.
My phone was under warranty, so when the replacement came, I put in the "dead" battery (according to my defective tilt2), and it listed 70% on the replacement phone.
Anyway, it does sound like you are having the same problem, because you have tried new batteries. So if you try syncing with USB and see if you have the same problem.
All, I seem to be having the same issue with a Sprint TP2. I had the first one replaced thinking it was the device. The replacement arrived and had the same issue. I took it into one of there stores and had the battery replaced. No dice. The battery drains 10% of it's power every 20 minutes, that is with nothing running and me not messing with it. I tried different ROM's thinking that would help. I installed NRG Dinik, GrooveROM, NEO_cht 2018, and Ana CHT. The issue still remains. Yesterday I came across a thread suggesting that I drain the battery completely, the recharge for 5 minutes, powering on and then clearing the storage(Hard reset while the phone is on). Phone charge seemed a little stable in the morning for the first hour, then returned to it's annoying 10% drain every 20 minutes. Any other suggestions?
Left out this folowing information, thought it might be relevant. Also had my charger replaced. Another thing I noticed with this behavior is that the contacts duplicate themselves every so often...
Go to Settings > Sound & Display. Check that the following are turned off:
Quiet ring on pickup
Pocket Mode
I played around with these for awhile and found that either of them, when turned on, will kill the battery in just a few hours.
Also, if you have a Hotmail account set up on it, make sure that it is not set to synchronize "as items arrive." Although you can get away with this setting for Exchange, Hotmail will kill the battery as fast as the above two settings.
3G Search Causes Battery Degradation
Hi,
I wonder if this might help? Maybe I am too late on this. But I recently was having trouble with the very same sudden poor battery issue after using my HTC Rhodium for more than a year with excellent battery life. At the same time I noticed that I was having trouble staying on my cell phone network, also suddenly. This had not been a problem before. Reading the forums in another area discussing signal issues someone pointed to the existence of "CMBandSwitch.exe" which lives in the Windows folder on a standard ROM. When you run this you can switch from "Auto" mode where the phone polls all available network bands and instead have the phone work only on the GSM band. You can also specify your frequency if you wish. When I did this I solved both problems at the same time. My phone once again was able to hold the network just fine and my battery life returned to normal.
I am in Europe on an extended assignment and I can only think that the local network is undergoing some changes that has their 3G signal weak which was causing my phone to work harder at staying attached and therefore creating both poor connectivity and poor battery life.
I hope this will help you.
Any help is appreciated...I'm at my wits end with this phone. I've been unable to make it through a day of work since I've had it.
I charged the phone from 1130 to 7 am, at that point i shut it down and did the hour charge, at 8am when I got out of bed I turned it on, let it run 2 minutes, charged it for another hour +. When I took my phone off the charger to head out the door it was 9:14AM. Its now 11:10 AM and it already shows 79% battery. I've barely used the phone. (trying the HTC tricks or just letting it hang normal both seem to make no difference really).
Spare parts reports 9m51s used without sleeping, and 9.4% used, 6.6% screen on, 0.6% phone.
Wifi, bluetooth, 3g, and sync all off since leaving the house. I've done nothing but send a few texts and listen to a voice mail.
I dont get the best reception at my current seating area, but I am able to make some calls / get service despite. Could this still be the cause? If so - is there ANYTHING I can do to alleviate that?
I have CM7 02262011 nightly, build GRH78C - on zendroid CFS. I thought zendroid would help with battery life immensely (as many reported) but I've seen almost no improvement. At this point, I'm not even making use of the smart phone features - no wifi, no playing games, no browsing the web...as soon as I fire up a game the battery plummets. EDIT to add I've had this kernel and rom for about 4 days now, and I did clear battery stats after flash. All I've read would indicate this should be enough time for it to "settle out". Is that true? END EDIT.
At this point the phone is virtually pointless to me....is the battery life that bad? I see users talking about 18-20 hours with light usage - I generally put myself in that light usage category and I cant imagine making that mark. Any suggestions?
If your "time without signal" in battery usage is really high, that'll eat your battery super fast. Really, having a low signal constantly will do the same thing. Because where I live & work never gives me more than a bar or -90 dbm, my battery goes pretty quickly too, even without a high "time without signal".
I keep 3g, Bluetooth, and GPS off almost all the time & keep wifi connected at home. I recently switched to 2.37.6.2-SavagedZen-0.1.2-CFS-HAVS-WiMAX-Froyo+. I unplugged the phone 8 hours ago (I don't like to keep in charging overnight) and it was at 98%. When I got up an hour ago, it was still at 98%. My time without signal was 73%. I've used it heavily for the past hour & it's at 95% now.
My battery life isn't great by any means, but it's better than it was. I also use CPU Boost (a free app similar to Set CPU but with less options) to undervolt. I slightly undervolt to around 700 MHz while using it lightly & set it down to about 460 with a screen off profile. Since I rarely do anything that needs the full ghz processor, this doesn't affect my phone's performance & really saves battery.
Hope this helps
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It sounds like poor signal is hurting you.. your phone may be constantly searching for better signal and killing your battery. Just be sure you have no wakelocks...
Also, when you wipe battery stats.. make sure you re-calibrate your battery as well. When I wiped stats it actually did more damage than good until I re-calibrated the correct way.
Thanks...I'll try under clocking a bit and see if it has a gain...I had that disabled up to now.
I put on ZenDroid-1.1.0-cfs-avs... (about phone shows it as 2.6.35.10ZenDroid) with anywhere from -96dBm to -104dBm. Could that be the explanation?
I'll have to monitor a bit more closely at home to get a better idea of service and battery consumption.
Thanks for you input and help though.
Anyone else able to comment on their signal strength and relative battery peformance?
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It sounds like poor signal is hurting you.. your phone may be constantly searching for better signal and killing your battery. Just be sure you have no wakelocks...
Also, when you wipe battery stats.. make sure you re-calibrate your battery as well. When I wiped stats it actually did more damage than good until I re-calibrated the correct way.
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Could you elaborate on wakelocks? I havent heard of this before... (ill do some searching as well).
Again, could you possibly comment on re-calibrating? I was under the assumption that was letting it charge fully and drain fully after a wipe of stats. I wiped stats on a full charge, let it run down, and then charged back to the phone reporting 100%. Was that incorrect procedure??
Thanks for your input!
Have you let the battery drain and than recharge several times? Part of letting the phone "normalize" for a few days is letting the phone go through several charge and drain cycles. If you get "scared" when it hits 60% battery and plug it in, your not allowing the phone to properly calibrate your battery percentage.
Also, go into spare parts and your battery history and find out what is under "partial wake usage". That will let you know what is being used when your screen is off.
For comparison sake I'm on CM7 RC2 (same results w/ RC1 though) and savaged zen 0.1.0 CFS SBC. I have one push email account, sync always on, wireless data on when no wifi, no bluetooth, and no gps. My screen brightness is always at 25%, which is plenty bright. I also have several apps running in the background like weather update once an hour, kakao talk, gtalk, etc. With Wifi on at work (NOTE: wifi saves TONS of battery over using 3g), I unplug at 7am and at 11am I'm right around 90%. A few texts/gtalk and about 30 minutes of web browsing since unplugging. I generally leave work at 5pm with around 70% battery left. However, after I leave and start using the phone more battery does drop pretty quick. I can usually make it to 11pm, but I use the remaining 70% in those 6 hours as opposed to my "work battery" which is only 30% in about 10 hours. When you start using the phone you are going to get fast battery drop. The large screen and fast processor are the culprits of that.
Always keep in mind. You have a mini computer in your pocket. You are not going to get days of battery life like you would with a crappy flip phone. Laptops with gigantic batteries last 4-6 hours, and your phone is doing similar work on a much smaller battery. It's amazing these things can get 20-24 hours of use.
Well after poking around in spare parts at the prompting of you all, I found that my phone was without signal for something like 81% of the day. I put on airplane mode and put wifi on and i was seeing normal drain. Oddly enough, it seems my HTC Hero was able to stay connected to the network better in the same "office location" - as I didnt see that kind of drop.
Regardless, its no big to kick on airplane mode for most of the day and fire up normal service on short breaks or whatever else. So issue resolved all in all. I appreciate the assistance prompting me to look into the spare parts and its various features.
Again, with airplane mode on my numbers are MUCH more inline with that of other users. Thanks to you all!
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Well after poking around in spare parts at the prompting of you all, I found that my phone was without signal for something like 81% of the day. I put on airplane mode and put wifi on and i was seeing normal drain. Oddly enough, it seems my HTC Hero was able to stay connected to the network better in the same "office location" - as I didnt see that kind of drop.
Regardless, its no big to kick on airplane mode for most of the day and fire up normal service on short breaks or whatever else. So issue resolved all in all. I appreciate the assistance prompting me to look into the spare parts and its various features.
Again, with airplane mode on my numbers are MUCH more inline with that of other users. Thanks to you all!
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Yea, just gotta watch out for bad signal areas, as those are the biggest battery eaters. Some phones [of the same model even] handle areas differently than others. So if, like in your case in a bad area for extended periods of time, kick on airplane mode. Also like also said, turning off your 3G when not in use is also a big battery saver.
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It sounds like poor signal is hurting you.. your phone may be constantly searching for better signal and killing your battery. Just be sure you have no wakelocks...
Also, when you wipe battery stats.. make sure you re-calibrate your battery as well. When I wiped stats it actually did more damage than good until I re-calibrated the correct way.
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Ditto! I wiped stats without knowing what they did, found that it got WORSE. Then I looked up how to actually calibrate. My battery life rules now
I also found that calibrating your battery helps. I realized that if I unplug and then plug my phone back in almost immediately that it has to charge a little more to get back to 100%. If you do a search for calibrating EVO battery you'll find detailed instructions.
Friend has a new Desire Z (bell, unlocked). Using it on AT&T network.
When at a house, and we use WiFI (30Mbps DL, 25Mbps UL), the speeds are VERY inconsistent. With my iPhone 4 using speedtest.net, it shows up as 20/15 each time. (WiFi is a little slower than the modem).
With the Desire Z, we get 15/10 (which is fine/acceptable). Then 3 minutes later we do it, we get 5/2. Without even moving the phone or touching the modem connection (not downloading anything on the computer), the connection just gets slower. Then it might be fast or slow, basically it's a toss-up.
The first time we noticed the issue is because when we are outside, we get HSPA speeds of 2.5/1.0, then randomly decreases to 0.1/0.05. HUGE difference. And VERY inconsistent. He is using a microSIM from iPhone 4, with an adapter, so we figured maybe the SIM card is getting loose at certain points? However, the WiFi is also inconsistent in addition to the HSPA, so it's probably not that.
What should I do? Is this the situation where I have to flash a new radio or something? (Please suggest others if I am wrong).
Thanks!
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Also, his battery is kinda weak. The battery health is apparently clean/healthy. He came from an iPhone 4, where he would have 3G, WiFi, and GPS on at night but not actually using them. Wake up, and 3% battery loss, maybe 5. WITHOUT using them, just having them on.
Now, with the Desire Z, we have the WiFi + 3G on, but NOT the GPS. He is losing 20%-25% in 8 hours without even using the phone.
Information about battery shows a high Cell standby (25%) and Phone idle (25%) percentage. When going into Spare Parts > Partial Wake usage, we didn't find anything really fishy. BUT we had rebooted so perhaps some info may have been lossed. Should he just go to sleep tonight and report the Partial Wake Usage statistics again?
We have a feeling it may be some apps refreshing at night.. But he clears all the apps with Advanced Task Manager except for like Facebook (2 hour interval refresh), GMail, and Google Voice.
I highly doubt a 20% battery decrease overnight is normal.. My mom's Atrix only loses about 5% overnight, with the same parameters I gave before.
I thought it may be a bad battery, BUT the phone idle + cell standby are abnormally high.
Thanks!
Does anyone have an answer? I was wondering this
I have been running CM 6 since November and just recently flashed CM 7. On both ROMs, Cell Standby and Phone Idle have been very high on my list of things that are 'draining' the battery.
For example, today Cell Standby shows as 37% and Phone Idle as 30% for me.
In fact, its very rare that these two things aren't at the top of the list of things that are using the battery for me.... I've seen cell standby as high as 47% before.
I can't speak for the drainage overnight. Definitely doesn't sound normal to me, but my phone is usually on the charger overnight (have enough trouble making it through the day with the stock battery).
Have you tried using Watchdog to monitor CPU usage of apps that run in the background? You could set the notification threshold very low and see what it spits out... Good luck!
gbarayah, thanks for the post, that was helpful.
If anyone can help with the inconsistent data speeds, that'd be very helpful.
And any additional info on the battery would be great too. I recently calibrated it, and will post any additional stats.
Damn it, I forgot to try Watchdog. However, I re-calibrated the battery, let it die, charged it up, let it die, charged it up. I followed the instructions to the letter and all that.
It was at 100% when I went to sleep. Woke up 8 hours later, 74%.
Settings > Battery shows nothing high 40% for cell standby and phone idle. Everything else (Facebook, etc.) REALLY low.
Then I went to Spare Parts > Battery Usage, Partial wake usage, everything incredibly low as well..
I will try Watchdog, but could it just be a bad battery? Or maybe should I try a different ROM?
Thanks!
Not sure if 26% drain over 8 hours is normal or not... Maybe someone else can shed some light on that. My phone is usually on the charger overnight.
The only other thing I can think of that would drain the battery is if you have a bad/weak cell signal in your area. I've experienced that with some job sites where my cell signal is very bad and my battery suffers excessive drain from trying to get a better signal or connect to 3G coming from Edge.
On my week old desire Z running virtuous unity sense3.0 rom and streamlined kernal i very rarely see phone idle and radio burning battery lik you say. Radio occasionaly gets high but only wen in bad coverage areas other than thats its ok.
Battery is still rubbish though due to fact even on 2nd lowest brightness setting screen seems to burn 80%-90% battery
Just checked: phone idle:2%
Cell stanby:8%
Screen (lowest setting):70%
Not this isnt a great example as its taken over a short period of havy use but it still reflects the relative proportion of the battery draining elements in question.
Also a question, if you have a live wallpaper set where is its battery drain shown? Screen, or launcher?
Not sure what to say about the high variable speeds.
Sticking to just GSM(2G) rather than AUTO will in some cases increase the signal and battery life at the expense of slower connection speeds. As mentioned when the phone struggles to get signal the battery gets drained alot faster.
Lower the refresh intervals of all the apps to the maximum period of time or a reasonable amount like 12 hours for FB for Sense, HTC Sense and Weather and 4 hours or Never (to make it on-demand) for Facebook.
Setting the Wi-fi sleep policy to "Never when connected" may make it on-demand too - when an app needs to update Wi-fi gets turned on again
If they have "Use wireless networks" checked to allow the clock-weathers mini-widget to update then they should try removing said clock and re-adding it, but search for the city when doing so. It'll provide them with a general outlook for their entire city and not force it to download and update the information for wherever they are whilst out and about. E.g if you were in London and went from Westminster to Peckham, it may update as you pass through each borough.
Live wallpapers and masses of widgets that need to constantly update are nice and everything but they can also drain the battery.
Think of these suggestions as ways to cycle the battery as well as save it.
I can't think of anything else to add.
I'm using Cyanogenmod 7 and it's pretty damn good. What do you think is the best ROM with Gingerbread if it's more lightweight and easier on the battery? (I honestly don't think the ROM accounts for the 25% battery loss but we'll see)
MIUI or mexiDroid for me?
By the way, could it just be a bad battery? I was thinking about picking one of these up:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=940263
$8 and people said it's okay.. What do you think?
Thanks, and I JUST calibrated recently, so once again I will leave phone off overnight and report.
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As for the network issues, I FIGURED IT OUT!!!
I believe it was the Speedtest app itself that was messed up. Like I said earlier, I don't have live wallpapers (just info) on, and also NO GPS unless using Navigation.
Well, Speedtest was connecting to WICHITA, KANSAS. I AM IN NEW JERSEY. WTH??!!
Anyway, so I'm going to keep GPS (satellites) on, it connects to NJ, and Voila, GREAT SPEEDS!
HSPA about 3.5/1.0 DL/UL
HOORAY! Network problem fixed!!!
Only issue is battery still D:
Honestly, I think it may be a bad battery. Partial wake usage doesn't show any app going nuts.. Every refresh interval is like 4 hours. And I use Advanced Task Killer to kill all apps before going to bed. I downloaded "Watchdog," let's see
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Friend has a new Desire Z (bell, unlocked). Using it on AT&T network.
When at a house, and we use WiFI (30Mbps DL, 25Mbps UL), the speeds are VERY inconsistent. With my iPhone 4 using speedtest.net, it shows up as 20/15 each time. (WiFi is a little slower than the modem).
With the Desire Z, we get 15/10 (which is fine/acceptable). Then 3 minutes later we do it, we get 5/2. Without even moving the phone or touching the modem connection (not downloading anything on the computer), the connection just gets slower. Then it might be fast or slow, basically it's a toss-up.
The first time we noticed the issue is because when we are outside, we get HSPA speeds of 2.5/1.0, then randomly decreases to 0.1/0.05. HUGE difference. And VERY inconsistent. He is using a microSIM from iPhone 4, with an adapter, so we figured maybe the SIM card is getting loose at certain points? However, the WiFi is also inconsistent in addition to the HSPA, so it's probably not that.
What should I do? Is this the situation where I have to flash a new radio or something? (Please suggest others if I am wrong).
Thanks!
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Also, his battery is kinda weak. The battery health is apparently clean/healthy. He came from an iPhone 4, where he would have 3G, WiFi, and GPS on at night but not actually using them. Wake up, and 3% battery loss, maybe 5. WITHOUT using them, just having them on.
Now, with the Desire Z, we have the WiFi + 3G on, but NOT the GPS. He is losing 20%-25% in 8 hours without even using the phone.
Information about battery shows a high Cell standby (25%) and Phone idle (25%) percentage. When going into Spare Parts > Partial Wake usage, we didn't find anything really fishy. BUT we had rebooted so perhaps some info may have been lossed. Should he just go to sleep tonight and report the Partial Wake Usage statistics again?
We have a feeling it may be some apps refreshing at night.. But he clears all the apps with Advanced Task Manager except for like Facebook (2 hour interval refresh), GMail, and Google Voice.
I highly doubt a 20% battery decrease overnight is normal.. My mom's Atrix only loses about 5% overnight, with the same parameters I gave before.
I thought it may be a bad battery, BUT the phone idle + cell standby are abnormally high.
Thanks!
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well... can't be that odd. Mine are
cell standby: 8%
Phone idle 6%
display 51% (highest)
dialer 11%
wifi 10%
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about conn. speed. I haven't used speedtest yet but downloading speed on the phone is slower than on PC remarkably using the same internet connection
barclays said:
well... can't be that odd. Mine are
cell standby: 8%
Phone idle 6%
display 51% (highest)
dialer 11%
wifi 10%
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about conn. speed. I haven't used speedtest yet but downloading speed on the phone is slower than on PC remarkably using the same internet connection
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WiFi will always be slower than wired connection, probably about 50% if not more.
Also, what setting do you have your display on and how much would you say you use your phone/have the screen on and how often do you talk (hrs/day)
noneabove said:
WiFi will always be slower than wired connection, probably about 50% if not more.
Also, what setting do you have your display on and how much would you say you use your phone/have the screen on and how often do you talk (hrs/day)
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I have auto brightness but I stay in office and not turn it on much (have to work though ) so the display isn't on much (when i said HIGHEST, it means highest in the list )
I have to phone connected to wifi all day but rarely use it
Mainly use the phone to text and talk less and 1/hr/day
Just try left the phone unused (stand by - airplane mode) for one day, drop about 20% or so
Its seems like its getting a little better.. only lost 10% overnight. Guess its calibrating
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