Just curious, surely it cannot take this long for HTC to port everything over from 1.5 to 1.6.
Considering that the HTC Tattoo is running 1.6, SenseUI, and has already been released, it is ridiculous indeed.
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Considering that the HTC Tattoo is running 1.6, SenseUI, and has already been released, it is ridiculous indeed.
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agree...!!
Well, some have said it before and might be interesting. It could be (because of other devices etc) HTC is waiting for a Hero update until Eclair is there. And apparantly some devices with Eclair should come out in the next two months, so who knows...
Hope it's not going to be the same like the WM devices. And HTC wants us to buy a new device with Eclair on it...
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Well, some have said it before and might be interesting. It could be (because of other devices etc) HTC is waiting for a Hero update until Eclair is there. And apparantly some devices with Eclair should come out in the next two months, so who knows...
Hope it's not going to be the same like the WM devices. And HTC wants us to buy a new device with Eclair on it...
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Motorola Droid has 2.0 and is coming early November afaik and being officially announced Oct. 30
Yeah, but I always give them a few months to actually release the thing
But I am kinda hoping they will give us 2.0 and skip 1.6. Just because I wonder how long it will take before we get 2.0 once it's out
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But I am kinda hoping they will give us 2.0 and skip 1.6. Just because I wonder how long it will take before we get 2.0 once it's out
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Let's hope...
It'd be really great to have 2.0 before 2010 (even if I really DON'T think so...)
Yeah I requested via twitter that they skip 1.6 in favour of a 2.0 release on time. I don't who is in charge of their twitter, and I know it probably won't help but I like to think it got noticed
An update to 2.0 would be a ot more significant in my eyes.
The Droid event is actually October 28th...was just posted on Engadget
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Yeah I requested via twitter that they skip 1.6 in favour of a 2.0 release on time. I don't who is in charge of their twitter, and I know it probably won't help but I like to think it got noticed
An update to 2.0 would be a ot more significant in my eyes.
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Yeah, but wasn't there just 2 security fixes google patched? I would think we should get them too.
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I'll believe it when I see it, given that the 2.0 SDK has not been rolled out yet! That's not to say it won't happen, just that I'm very sceptical!
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What i dont understand is that HTC already has Hero's SENSE UI working on 1.6 ( Tattoo ) then whats taking em so God Damn long to push it out ...
One more thing ... Why should we skip 1.6 for 2.0 ? changes or no changes i would want each and every update ( be it miniscule ) to be sent to HTC's Flagship android device... besides all they have to do is put it on their website in the stupid RUU format... and a month or a week or two later roll out 2.0 in similar fashion ....
Now is that too much to ask ?
It's possible that the version of Sense UI on the Tattoo has only been coded for its QVGA screen, and that they need to port it "properly" to the Hero.
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I read a news from the following link
http://marmarday.com/?p=7239
It says N1 will be updated to Android 2.2 on the Horizon, and what about the Desire?
i think it will but there will be a slight delay as HTC need to update Sense to work with 2.2 whereas the N1 has no overlays so can be updated as soon as the update is released
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I read a news from the following link
http://marmarday.com/?p=7239
It says N1 will be updated to Android 2.2 on the Horizon, and what about the Desire?
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I read a news from the following link
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I wouldn't count on that.
HTC Hero used to be the top of the line before the Legend and the Desire came out. I think the Hero was launched in September, but until now the latest """Rumors""" say it will be updated to 2.1 in June.
Not to mention, android 1.5 on the Hero has limitations, which naturally should become a reason for updating, but yet, that wasn't good enough.
So worrying about it is just a waste of callories
But when the Desire gets rooted, we'll have plently of cooked 2.2, 2.5... etc Roms
If 2.2 is when their "Defragmentation Solving" thing comes into effect then probably yes.
Because in theory, HTC wouldn't have to do anything, sense and all the apps would happily run on top of 2.2 as separate apps.
They had better... Flash 10.1, DivX and 720p recording depend on it.
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If 2.2 is when their "Defragmentation Solving" thing comes into effect then probably yes.
Because in theory, HTC wouldn't have to do anything, sense and all the apps would happily run on top of 2.2 as separate apps.
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Still, it will take HTC alot of work to migrate to 2.2 in the first place. After which defragmentation concept can be applied.
Anyway, the complexity of it will be clear when that feature is out.
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They had better... Flash 10.1, DivX and 720p recording depend on it.
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Did you read this somewhere?
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Did you read this somewhere?
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Flash 10.1 is definitley in FroYo. DivX and 720P recording was something HTC promised to be released in an update after the desire was launched so to me it makes sense that FroYo would be the update.
Look at it this way...HTC supposedly take such a long time because they build Sense to integrate tightly with the underlying OS. It's hooked in. The direction Google is taking is going to mean Sense is a separate self standing app/service...so HTC now have to re-write it probably from the ground up. That's not a trivial task if that's what this means.
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Flash 10.1 is definitley in FroYo. DivX and 720P recording was something HTC promised to be released in an update after the desire was launched so to me it makes sense that FroYo would be the update.
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You're right, all these are promised to be coming to the Desire, and Flash 10.1 is rumored to be coming to Nexus 1 with Froyo.
But that doesn't mean all these features require the update to Froyo, at least I hope so, or the Desire will have to wait for a long time.
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I wouldn't count on that.
HTC Hero used to be the top of the line before the Legend and the Desire came out. I think the Hero was launched in September, but until now the latest """Rumors""" say it will be updated to 2.1 in June.
Not to mention, android 1.5 on the Hero has limitations, which naturally should become a reason for updating, but yet, that wasn't good enough.
So worrying about it is just a waste of callories
But when the Desire gets rooted, we'll have plently of cooked 2.2, 2.5... etc Roms
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I agree with you, waiting for 'rooted'.
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I agree with you, waiting for 'rooted'.
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I can't wait to root mine. Good thing is that it won't affect the warranty unlike the Nexus One.
I REALLY hope that the seperated update stuff will be here sooner than later. I am actually quite surprised since I got the Hero that it's not in Android to start with.
And it's the only way Google can avoid fragmentation, which imho is one of the biggest threat to the platform so far.
Warranty issue also depends on where you live. They can put in as much warranty void thingies in as they want. But when my phone has a hardware issue and they don't want to fix because I changed something in the software they will be in trouble. And then they can try and prove my software change damaged the hardware.
I thought it was the other way around?
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I can't wait to root mine. Good thing is that it won't affect the warranty unlike the Nexus One.
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Also, don't forget that HTC has access to early builds and source of future versions because they are building terminals based on it. Porting Sense is probably being done right now, they don't have to wait like we do.
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I thought it was the other way around?
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It's not check the thread I made "Rooting and warranty statement"
My missus works for Vodafone and had a visit from HTC last week promoting the Legend and Desire. They told her that 2.2 would be coming to both but she didn't think to ask when.
So, yes.
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My missus works for Vodafone and had a visit from HTC last week promoting the Legend and Desire. They told her that 2.2 would be coming to both but she didn't think to ask when.
So, yes.
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Your wife has made many people here very happy...
Joking aside that's really good news
The new android 2.2 will apparently launch on 19. may, will the desire also get this update or is it unsupported? also, post any news here
It'll get it, it's just a question of when.
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It'll get it, it's just a question of when.
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agreed, htc will take a LIFETIME to release this for sense
in fact from my experience what will happen is that before next month another 3 phones will be released and they will no longer support the desire
although i have heard of google fragmentation which if true could mean that adjustments do not need to be made for sense and android 2.2 could simply be installed to our desires?
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It'll get it, it's just a question of when.
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I hope it wont take as long as the hero update, wich was announced to release december 2009, now its may and its still not here, and ITS THE 2.1!
I had a hero before, but i couldnt wait for the update so i bought a desire
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...on-june-23rd-is-froyo-also-joining-the-party/
Google, Motorola, Verizon and Adobe are releasing the next generation of the droid on June 23rd with FroYo.
Couple this with the fact that a customer service rep said HTC are releasing FroYo on the 23rd of June it's seeming more and more likely that we will be seeing FroYo on the 23rd of June.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...on-june-23rd-is-froyo-also-joining-the-party/
Google, Motorola, Verizon and Adobe are releasing the next generation of the droid on June 23rd with FroYo.
Couple this with the fact that a customer service rep said HTC are releasing FroYo on the 23rd of June it's seeming more and more likely that we will be seeing FroYo on the 23rd of June.
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bob hope and no hope (just guessing like)
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bob hope and no hope (just guessing like)
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my thoughts exactly. It really is clutching at straws. For one MOTOROLA are not HTC.
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Couple this with the fact that a customer service rep said HTC are releasing FroYo on the 23rd of June it's seeming more and more likely that we will be seeing FroYo on the 23rd of June.
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I don't follow your logic. This is the release of a new handset from Motorola, it's not a milestone in Froyo releases and certainly doesn't dictate (at least in the short term) what HTC will or will not do.
There are pretty decent froyo roms out there
No need to wait!
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There are pretty decent froyo roms out there
No need to wait!
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Stock Android looks horrific. I can't live without HTC Sense and the Sense Widgets.
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Stock Android looks horrific. I can't live without HTC Sense and the Sense Widgets.
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Plus I would rather have a full working phone with FroYo after waiting for HTC than a custom rom with bits working here and there and having to press F5 on the roms thread every minute of the day in hope that something else has been fixed. Don't get me wrong, I am used to it with the HD2 and eventually, custom roms can be pretty awesome, I just feel that time is not right now with the desire.. I'm holding out on HTC for now
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I don't follow your logic. This is the release of a new handset from Motorola, it's not a milestone in Froyo releases and certainly doesn't dictate (at least in the short term) what HTC will or will not do.
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Notice that Google and Adobe are announcing the next generation of the Moto Droid with FroYo.
Now what we can understand from this is that...
Motorola are releasing the successor to the Droid with FroYo
Adobe are releasing Flash 10.1 Final
Google are more than likely going to start proper OTA updates on the Nexus One
All of these are going to occur on the 23rd of June. Doesn't it seem a bit of an odd coincedence that a few weeks back we heard unconfirmed reports from HTC customer service that a FroYo release was to come on the 23rd of June?
It seems far too perfectly in sync to be a coincedence. Google are trying to stop device fragmentation right? Doesn't having its biggest hardware makers Motorola and HTC releasing FroYo on their devices along with Flash 10.1 being released on the same day sound like a start to defragmentation?
However, HTC is not mention once in the whole story, I would like to see it, but I think Honduras have a better chance of winning the world cup
Lets hope that we havr froyo on the 23rd!
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However, HTC is not mention once in the whole story, I would like to see it, but I think Honduras have a better chance of winning the world cup
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Oh silly me how did I miss that
Did you even read my reasoning for as to why?
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Notice that Google and Adobe are announcing the next generation of the Moto Droid with FroYo.
Now what we can understand from this is that...
Motorola are releasing the successor to the Droid with FroYo
Adobe are releasing Flash 10.1 Final
Google are more than likely going to start proper OTA updates on the Nexus One
All of these are going to occur on the 23rd of June. Doesn't it seem a bit of an odd coincedence that a few weeks back we heard unconfirmed reports from HTC customer service that a FroYo release was to come on the 23rd of June?
It seems far too perfectly in sync to be a coincedence. Google are trying to stop device fragmentation right? Doesn't having its biggest hardware makers Motorola and HTC releasing FroYo on their devices along with Flash 10.1 being released on the same day sound like a start to defragmentation?
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There is some logic in this indeed.
It would be cool: a global Froyo launch over multiple devices. Better then slowly updating each device over a 6-12 month period.
The Android Army is marching in on the 23rd! One day before the iPhone 4 is released. Sounds typical Google.
I think there is straw clutching too.
HTC have nothing confirmed, for all we know the announcement by Motorolla is that the new Droid handsets will run Froyo and thats all. And a release date for handsets.
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I think there is straw clutching too.
HTC have nothing confirmed, for all we know the announcement by Motorolla is that the new Droid handsets will run Froyo and thats all. And a release date for handsets.
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But why the 23rd of June? The day before the release of iPhone 4?
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But why the 23rd of June? The day before the release of iPhone 4?
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So they can rub it in to all the iphone 4 owners about how great flash will be maybe?
I think its probable a froyo phone or update will be out on the 23rd, but im not remotely convinced it will be on an HTC device then. If it is, great!, If not then meh.. i'll wait a bit longer.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...te from HTC at the end of this year.. I hope.
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Sorry man, but history taught that HTC + fast updates = mission impossible. You'll see.
I'll be glad to see Froyo update from HTC at the end of this year.. I hope.
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And has nothing in history ever changed? There is a first time for everything, including HTC bringing an update fast. If you are looking at the Hero: that was a totally different situation IMO. Froyo is much needed for the Desire while eclair for the Hero was not so big. Flash wants to be on as much possible devies as fast as possible. Google wants a big Froyo launch, which will have a much bigger impact than slow, unnoticed Froyo updates.
I am not sure of anything, bit I do think that the '23rd rumor' is possible. We will see.
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Sorry man, but history taught that HTC + fast updates = mission impossible. You'll see.
I'll be glad to see Froyo update from HTC at the end of this year.. I hope.
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The Hero was their first Android device with Sense UI. The Desire is not and they have already seen what happens when they delay an update too long.
Finally a word from HTC!!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/29/htc-expect-desire-legend-and-wildfire-to-get-froyo-beginning/
Ahhh, you beat me! I rushed straight over from Engadget to tell you all the good news aswell!
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Ahhh, you beat me! I rushed straight over from Engadget to tell you all the good news aswell!
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lolz, better luck when ginger comes out!
anyways, all that matters is the news is here!!
Beat me to it too!!
Great news. Although I wonder what they mean by "beginning IN Q3" (as opposed to "beginning of Q3"). I'm assuming it means that just one of those phones will see Froyo at some point in Q3. In which case, let's hope the Desire is the first. It should need the least work over the N1 compared to the others (I guess). Still, Q3 stretches all the way out to September. But great news nevertheless. Lets just hope they can deliver.
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Beat me to it too!!
Great news. Although I wonder what they mean by "beginning IN Q3" (as opposed to "beginning of Q3"). I'm assuming it means that just one of those phones will see Froyo at some point in Q3. In which case, let's hope the Desire is the first. It should need the least work over the N1 compared to the others (I guess). Still, Q3 stretches all the way out to September. But great news nevertheless. Lets just hope they can deliver.
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I guess its either going to be the Evo4G or the Desire, because they are the flagship devices from HTC at the moment, legend and the other ones will be getting it later on.
HTC after Google IO (when froyo was officialy shown to the world):
'Blablabla all 2010 models get froyo. We are STARTING with the Desire and Incredible. Other models as the Evo 4G will get it after.'
Off course they could have changed their strategy. But I am expecting froyo before the Legend and Wildfire.
Great news anyway, starting from a few days we could get froyo. I am sooooooooo F'in tired of the 'low internal memory' notification. I cant even open my SMS messages sometimes for the love of god! I mean, come on. My SMS messages -.-
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HTC after Google IO (when froyo was officialy shown to the world):
'Blablabla all 2010 models get froyo. We are STARTING with the Desire and Incredible. Other models as the Evo 4G will get it after.'
Off course they could have changed their strategy. But I am expecting froyo before the Legend and Wildfire.
Great news anyway, starting from a few days we could get froyo. I am sooooooooo F'in tired of the 'low internal memory' notification. I cant even open my SMS messages sometimes for the love of god! I mean, come on. My SMS messages -.-
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lmao @ your signature!!
that means any time starting from next week
True that. I'm glad that the speculation can end now with the official statement. Let the waiting begin.
I am not convinced ... Q3 2010 ? or Q3 2011 ?
/jk
This is great news Hope soon and polished
Hoping for July then
I would love it to have in Q3, but we probably will get it as a xmas present ...
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I would love it to have in Q3, but we probably will get it as a xmas present ...
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Hopefully the HTC team learnt something from the Hero saga (i actually gave my hero back and got desire becuase of 2.1)
Well, technically, Q3 begins in 2 days.
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I would love it to have in Q3, but we probably will get it as a xmas present ...
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Nee hoor
I think the competition has changed for HTC. Why would somebody pick up a 2.1 Desire when a 2.2 Motorola or Samsung device is right next to it? With the Hero they didn't have any big competition like now.
Btw, I have seen multiple people say that going from 2.1 to 2.2 is not so hard (compared from 1.5 to 2.1 with the Hero's hardware). Is this true?
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Hopefully the HTC team learnt something from the Hero saga (i actually gave my hero back and got desire becuase of 2.1)
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Yeah, not updating current phones increases our sales
Finally i hope it is soon
Just got my HTC Desire this week. Here's hoping to a quick update, i don't want to root it just yet for the Hebrew support if 2.2 (who has the fonts) is around the corner.
OMG!
I'll pray for this to happen man.
Srsly need the update.
you don't know how crazy it is.
I have never been a like phone freak, phone nerd of whatever you call it.
But since the desire and that froyo 2.2 video update thing
you just want the update badly.
And btw i tasted a real frozen yoghurt. And it just makes you sad.
cause you'll be like. If only this was inside my phone.
Seriously.
2.2 PLEASE!
Hi
Does anyone know if android 2.3 is arriving on the HTC Desire?
if it does when?
-Frederik Thorsted
Within next few weeks, , hopefully before x-mas
Thank you very much
Maybe sooner if someone does a quick port of the sdk emulator image
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Maybe sooner if someone does a quick port of the sdk emulator image
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Sources will be most likely released before a "quick port" of sdk emulator image.
will it be an official update?
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Within next few weeks, , hopefully before x-mas
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Gingerbread ROM will be released within two weeks for the Nexus One..I'm sure that someone of our fine devs will port it to the Desire..But so far HTC made no announcements regarding an official Gingerbread update for us.. Anyway, -my beloved developers ( )- some guys have uploaded some gingerbread stuff ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863317 ) but I dont really know what this is..Will we get a custom ginger anytime soon?
so we still dont know if desire will get gingerbread officially from HTC??
unfortunately the desire won't recieve the official release...market reason...
And where did you get this information? Unless you can provide a source nothing is definite yet
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unfortunately the desire won't recieve the official release...market reason...
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bit of a bold statement.
seeing as the nexus 1 and nexus s cpu speed is the same spec i see no reason why HTC will not upgrade at some point the 3 desire phones as these are there flagships. by not upgrading the standard desire they risk losing people who must have '2.3' to another brand. My view is in early 2011 they will roll this update out to all 3 and also bring the standard desire up to the HD and Z in sense terms. i believe they held this off for marketing reasons. Juts my view mind.
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bit of a bold statement.
seeing as the nexus 1 and nexus s cpu speed is the same spec i see no reason why HTC will not upgrade at some point the 3 desire phones as these are there flagships. by not upgrading the standard desire they risk losing people who must have '2.3' to another brand. My view is in early 2011 they will roll this update out to all 3 and also bring the standard desire up to the HD and Z in sense terms. i believe they held this off for marketing reasons. Juts my view mind.
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My thoughts exactly, if not, someone will eventually port .
Yes.. My feeling is that the desire will get the new Sense along with Gingerbread release.
Well.. even if they dont release it officially for Desire, they will have to release it anyway for the Z/HD and our mods can port it in no time. Our Desires dont have the hardware limitation (especially internal storage with A2SD/D2SD). Then we desire users can flash those roms and show the finger to HTC...
We have the mods... they are our gods!!
Market reason?
With the 2 years warranty there must be not only assistance in case of broken phone, but also the confirmation of continous upgrading with new software, bugfix until the 2 years are passed and 'til the phone risk not to support th upgrading.
This should be the real 2 year warranty so much declared in the instructions and things like that
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bit of a bold statement.
seeing as the nexus 1 and nexus s cpu speed is the same spec i see no reason why HTC will not upgrade at some point the 3 desire phones as these are there flagships. by not upgrading the standard desire they risk losing people who must have '2.3' to another brand. My view is in early 2011 they will roll this update out to all 3 and also bring the standard desire up to the HD and Z in sense terms. i believe they held this off for marketing reasons. Juts my view mind.
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according to an article I read on pocketnow, HTC comes out with 2.3 in March of 2011.
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And where did you get this information? Unless you can provide a source nothing is definite yet
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my dad is the managaer of HTC italia company...he told me that...but he wasn't sure...but i hope it wll release it!!!
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my dad is the managaer of HTC italia company...he told me that...but he wasn't sure...but i hope it wll release it!!!
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Daniele De Grandis
Country Manager, Italy
HTC Europe Co. Ltd.
He has no child.
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according to an article I read on pocketnow, HTC comes out with 2.3 in March of 2011.
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I hope it comes out before
well, there's still hope: http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...d-android-2-3-update--913929?src=rss&attr=all
and for the "quick port", it indeed came quick: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863884
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Daniele De Grandis
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i'm joking guy...come on sorry hihi...however i hope that gingerbread will be official on our Desires too!