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FroYo to Desire?

The new android 2.2 will apparently launch on 19. may, will the desire also get this update or is it unsupported? also, post any news here

It'll get it, it's just a question of when.

Rusty! said:
It'll get it, it's just a question of when.
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agreed, htc will take a LIFETIME to release this for sense
in fact from my experience what will happen is that before next month another 3 phones will be released and they will no longer support the desire
although i have heard of google fragmentation which if true could mean that adjustments do not need to be made for sense and android 2.2 could simply be installed to our desires?

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I hope it wont take as long as the hero update, wich was announced to release december 2009, now its may and its still not here, and ITS THE 2.1!
I had a hero before, but i couldnt wait for the update so i bought a desire

Official Froyo for HTC Desire possibly in the beginning of August

Hi @ all
I know it wont be a 100% reliable news but I thought it would interest some of you.
A friend of mine ordered a HTC Desire at Sunrise (Swiss Operator). She was told that the delivery will be postponed to the beginning of August due to the fact that the device will be delivered with version 2.2 of Android aka Froyo.
That would mean that we could possibly get the official Froyo by the end of July for unbranded devices.
Hope the staff at Sunrise is reliable and the info is right!!!
We will know more in about one month.
Sorry if the news has already been posted before.
Sinerely,
Ascenca

Interesting

Well, HTC Customer Service reps got the date wrong for this. So I doubt that a network service provider rep has that much information.
I have a feeling your friend couldn't get a Desire because of the same problem that the Droid Incredible is facing. HTC has a shortage of AMOLED screens.
See here. http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/veri...le-shortage-due-to-amoled-production-shortage
Also, see here for a (probably) more realistic time table direct from HTC PR guy. http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-says-expect-froyo-version-sense-ui-christmas

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Well, HTC Customer Service reps got the date wrong for this. So I doubt that a network service provider rep has that much information.
I have a feeling your friend couldn't get a Desire because of the same problem that the Droid Incredible is facing. HTC has a shortage of AMOLED screens.
See here. http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/veri...le-shortage-due-to-amoled-production-shortage
Also, see here for a (probably) more realistic time table direct from HTC PR guy. http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-says-expect-froyo-version-sense-ui-christmas
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Thanks für your reply.
I am aware of the shortage of AMOLED displays and the recent PR statement of HTC. I dont pretend my info is right, only wanted to share what I heard. Nevertheless I think August could be possible. The PR guy said that all newer devices (Desire, Legend, etc.) will get Froyo by Christmas. The HTC Desire being their top end device at the moment in Europe I assume it will get the update first. And I am quite sure that they wont provide the update to all devices at the same time. So lets hope for it to be true .
Ascenca

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Also, see here for a (probably) more realistic time table direct from HTC PR guy. http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-says-expect-froyo-version-sense-ui-christmas
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There's no timetable there at all - it just says that they'll be finished with Froyo updates before Xmas. Well, August is before Xmas, as is September, October, November and most of December!
What we do know is that HTC have gone on record to say that they are expecting the first updates to roll out in Q3, but we don't know which devices will get it first.
Regards,
Dave

http://phandroid.com/2010/07/06/htc-to-complete-android-2-2-roll-out-by-christmas/
Lets hope it's true and the Desire gets 2.2 in August before the other phones, but i must admit that 2.1 is great and i have no issues with it so am happy to wait whenever it comes out.

It takes time to port all of our applications over to Froyo and then make sure that it is running well on each of our devices. That’s not like a one week kind of project. We need to make sure that our applications are taking advantage of the Froyo features. To make sure that they’re all running properly on the OS now that it’s a new version. And then to make sure that it’s running on our hardware as well as we expect. I would believe that we would be done with our Froyo updates before Christmas.
This was an intervjue with Eric Lin HTC PR dude
Source http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/34139/htc-froyo-update-delays-explained

That's no good. I'm going on holidays at the beginning of August lol
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

It seems alot of the replies in this thread don't take into account the fact that a HTC 2.2 test rom with sense has already been leaked to certain people and was mostly working. So HTC are pretty far along in development already.

Yes i know about that rom. Thats why i think its strange that HTC PR guy talks about crhistmas?

SperVaxjo said:
Yes i know about that rom. Thats why i think its strange that HTC PR guy talks about crhistmas?
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I think this is cos they want to prevent what happened with the 2.1 Update for the HTC Hero (more than a half year between announcement and shipment, at least in europe).
Better to make promises they can hold. So the Christmas announcement makes completly sense to me.
Ascenca

Ascenca83 said:
I think this is cos they want to prevent what happened with the 2.1 Update for the HTC Hero (more than a half year between announcement and shipment, at least in europe).
Better to make promises they can hold. So the Christmas announcement makes completly sense to me.
Ascenca
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Yes thats probably the reason. But it might make people not buying the Desire also and go for another brand like Samsung Galaxy S or even the Iphone 4 =P
Oh well, Im glad we have the Devs who get froyo roms out =)

Roms that dont work
Not trying to offend anyone.. I m pretty new to the HTC Desire (3 days) but VERY happy I forgot I ever had a 3GS.
But as far as roms are concerned, I see it is not worth using them since simple stuff such as video recording do not work.

Man, hope this better be true.
Sorry to sound so retardly geeky but it's been such a deep sadness for not being able to use the sdcard for applications. I'm sure you dudes feel the same!
Sent from my HTC Desire

jastonas said:
Roms that dont work
Not trying to offend anyone.. I m pretty new to the HTC Desire (3 days) but VERY happy I forgot I ever had a 3GS.
But as far as roms are concerned, I see it is not worth using them since simple stuff such as video recording do not work.
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About video recording not working: http://androidheadlines.com/2010/07/android-2-2-is-now-on-the-htc-desire-it-too-can-now-do-720p.html
Looks pretty functional to me

SperVaxjo said:
Yes i know about that rom. Thats why i think its strange that HTC PR guy talks about crhistmas?
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The only thing they have said is that they will be done BEFORE Christmas, that could be any time not precisely Christmas, it just gives them a window to allow for things to go wrong.

Another hint the update is not far of (statement from Eric Lin, global PR and online community Manager of HTC):
"I don't think you're going to see that really long six month, seven month lag, like you saw in the updates from 1.5 to 2.1, simply because it's a less severe change. Switching from 2.1 to 2.2, they made a lot of tweaks, but they didn't make any gigantic changes, so it should be a much swifter process".
Source: the::unwierd
Ascenca

HTC Desire Froyo coming in August

Just seen this so fingers crossed.
http://www.techtechies.com/20100707...announced-htc-desire-getting-froyo-first.html

would be a good birthday present

Am I missing something? the HTC PR guy excerpt is from an older interview I read before. He said "before xmas" in the full interview. No mention of august, and again this unsubstantiated news clip gives no evidence of when HTC said "august". please reference HTC "august" comment if your going to post this stuff.

Taken from link.
According to the news the lucky ones would be the HTC Desire holders, as the Android 2.2 (Froyo) going to rool out for HTC Desire in August

Al so noted here.
http://www.techtechies.com/20100719...-2-froyo-update-available-by-end-of-july.html

yep,but still haven`t exact date
thay like to suprise us

williap said:
Al so noted here.
http://www.techtechies.com/20100719...-2-froyo-update-available-by-end-of-july.html
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thanks. I hope it comes true. I decided to wait for the official update instead of going with a ROM off here.

Same here. Haven't yet rooted as it looks like most of the stuff I'm after (and was on my old HD2 - wireless hotspot and app2sd) is coming with Froyo. I was a seasoned WM flasher (it can be so addictive!) but thought I would try and control myself this time around ;-) The sooner 2.2 arrives the better.
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Haven't rooted yet too, no rush.

I really hope so, but seriously...October sounds more like it...HTC was never fast and known as a delay vendor. I would say late September, early October.

Lord_Phoenix said:
I really hope so, but seriously...October sounds more like it...HTC was never fast and known as a delay vendor. I would say late September, early October.
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my bet would be, late aug early september

HTC has not annouced any official date yet and i dont know where these two web sites are getting it from. This read is so similar to the x amount of previous threads all saying its coming 'next' month etc.

The post date of the article is July 7th. We need less speculation and just wait patiently.

Q3 like has always been stated, that's July-September.... so my guess is some time between now and the end of September probably later rather than sooner.. (that has not stopped me from clicking on System software updates > CHECK NOW!' every day )

jimlad said:
Q3 like has always been stated, that's July-September.... so my guess is some time between now and the end of September probably later rather than sooner.. (that has not stopped me from clicking on System software updates > CHECK NOW!' every day )
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if you flash the official ota your guna have to wait for devs to get round the new security b4 you can root ya know

I do not believe it.

I hope they get it out quickly, the sooner they release it the sooner Orange will release a working radio
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YAWN !! here we go again. one thing guartanteed though, Santa Claus WILL be coming at Xmas

Whether or not it's august, i got it on a custom rom aswell (tho i'm sure the official version may have some more tweaks)

Another one again?
And here we go again!
you might want to check this before getting your hopes up:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705107
one long topic going on about froyo on desire in two weeks time. lol

anyone know if we getting 2.3?

does anyone know if we getting 2.3 update for g2??

Yeah, it'll come for sure. But it'll be available in custom ROMs way before HTC get around to releasing it.

but it'll work same as the official 2.3 right?

Haha, stevieweeeeevie dude, your posting frequency is unreal every post I see a reply from you. Your like an xda cyborg... Lol
JD
Sent from my HTC Desire Z Beast

Ya, it'll be the same as official 2.3.
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Alright so we'll see it in a few weeks cheeee heeeeeee!
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Well, this phone has virgin android because it will be between the first phones getting gingerbread, so htc I think won't have anything to do here because we are running pure vanilla, not any htc sence crap
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JupiterDroid said:
Haha, stevieweeeeevie dude, your posting frequency is unreal every post I see a reply from you. Your like an xda cyborg... Lol
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What can I say, I've got too much time on my hands

Its a good thing though dude, its nice to know there are people dedicated to the cause
2.3 will come firstly as a port from the nexus, and then within 1-2 months we will see an updated G2 and sense rom, then at the end of 2020 we will see it drop on the SGS, lol lol ;P
And as soon as the gingerbread source code is released, Cy will get to work on CM7
JD
Sent from my HTC Desire Z Beast

jboiii15 said:
Alright so we'll see it in a few weeks cheeee heeeeeee!
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
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Are you posing for a picture and are a bit nervous?

nooo im effing excited dude! lol

This is just a rumor, but Phandroid has a rumor that says 2.3 could be unvieled as early as today (12/6). I don't think it'll happen, but I have my fingers crossed.
I know Moto Droids running vanilla Android and the Nexus 1 always get updates first because they're running vanilla Android. We're running Vanilla Android, so maybe we'll get to be apart of the "hahahaha, we got it before you did, sucker Sense/Motoblur/Touchwiz users!" group?

AbsolutZeroGI said:
the Nexus 1 always get updates first
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That statement is absurd. The N1 has only had ONE UPDATE!!! At least only one MAJOR update... it shipped with 2.1, it is currently 2.2 (2.2.1 is minor, hardly counts.)

dhkr123 said:
That statement is absurd. The N1 has only had ONE UPDATE!!! At least only one MAJOR update... it shipped with 2.1, it is currently 2.2 (2.2.1 is minor, hardly counts.)
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That's only half of the statement, friend. The point I was trying to make was that the phones with vanilla android get the updates sooner than all the other UIs. Since we run vanilla android like the nexus 1 and the moto droids do, we should be getting 2.3 the same time they do which, historically, has been far sooner than everyone else.

dhkr123 said:
That statement is absurd. The N1 has only had ONE UPDATE!!! At least only one MAJOR update... it shipped with 2.1, it is currently 2.2 (2.2.1 is minor, hardly counts.)
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There have only been those 2 updates....
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G2 is not pure Google/Stock/Vanilla/Virgin whatever you want to call it.
While yes, the G2 is the closest thing to Vanilla FroYo available (aside from the Nexus Series of course, which is 100% stock), it isn't entirely pure. There is another thread pertaining to this, anyways the guesstimate is that we will get it a month or two after the Nexus S is released, which is December 16th in the United States.
BTW, I love my G2, I think it's the sickest phone available right now, but at the same time, it isn't fully stock. Read Cyanogen's blog about it.
It's going to take some time to get it just right for the G2. In any event, I can't wait!
I'm guessing Feb. 2011, although after having played with the SDK's Emulator a bit, there aren't any DRASTIC changes in Gingerbread, which means less dev. work, so who knows, maybe even sooner! Definitely after X-mas.

Android1126 said:
While yes, the G2 is the closest thing to Vanilla FroYo available (aside from the Nexus Series of course, which is 100% stock), it isn't entirely pure. There is another thread pertaining to this, anyways the guesstimate is that we will get it a month or two after the Nexus S is released, which is December 16th in the United States.
BTW, I love my G2, I think it's the sickest phone available right now, but at the same time, it isn't fully stock. Read Cyanogen's blog about it.
It's going to take some time to get it just right for the G2. In any event, I can't wait!
I'm guessing Feb. 2011, although after having played with the SDK's Emulator a bit, there aren't any DRASTIC changes in Gingerbread, which means less dev. work, so who knows, maybe even sooner! Definitely after X-mas.
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Oh I know we're not running 100% Vanilla, but we are running it without a 3rd party UI put over top so I'm sure we'll get it much sooner than Sense, Motoblur and Touchwiz phones do.
I think it'll be sooner than February (my money is on a January release, as the Nexus S is being released with 2.3, so 2.3's release will be the day the S comes out). It shouldn't take that long to toss together 2.3-compatible versions of the apps that makes ours different from a 100% pure device. Of course, it's all up to Tmo in the end.
I'm waiting until 2.3 update before I root. I was waiting for CM 6 stable but with 2.3 just around the corner, it's worth waiting for. I'd like to see what it's like before I go rooting around in my phone. Pun squarely intended.

dhkr123 said:
That statement is absurd. The N1 has only had ONE UPDATE!!! At least only one MAJOR update... it shipped with 2.1, it is currently 2.2 (2.2.1 is minor, hardly counts.)
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What is the difference between 2.2 and 2.2.1? And why doesn't the G2 have 2.2.1?

I can't wait for 2.3 via CM7! The CM 6.1 stable is bad ass. I'm just ready for voip/sip that's built in. I changed my service plan when I heard that lol
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AbsolutZeroGI said:
Oh I know we're not running 100% Vanilla, but we are running it without a 3rd party UI put over top so I'm sure we'll get it much sooner than Sense, Motoblur and Touchwiz phones do.
I think it'll be sooner than February (my money is on a January release, as the Nexus S is being released with 2.3, so 2.3's release will be the day the S comes out). It shouldn't take that long to toss together 2.3-compatible versions of the apps that makes ours different from a 100% pure device. Of course, it's all up to Tmo in the end.
I'm waiting until 2.3 update before I root. I was waiting for CM 6 stable but with 2.3 just around the corner, it's worth waiting for. I'd like to see what it's like before I go rooting around in my phone. Pun squarely intended.
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I hear you man. Agreed.

Has HTC become Samsung? (SW Updates)

AS the title states, is HTC slowly becoming a Samsung clone, as about software updates?
I even sent a message to them 5 days ago, asking about delivery of official 2.3 and no response yet. WTF?
I bought an HTC phone (actually 3 in a row, Magic-Desire-Desire HD) cause i thought that they were much better than Samsung in support. That is why all of us bought their flagship phone.
Maybe is time to go for Atrix or Optimus 2X when they appear.

The simple answer is no, they wont.
You'll get 2.3 on your DHD eventually, just be patient! Would you rather they rush it and it be full of bugs, or they take their time and it be have less bugs?
If you want fastest updates trade DHD for Nexus S
PS - You think Samsung are bad? LG are worse!

thanks. but if Ns was available in Greece i would. The that has made me mad is that the aren't even answering at all.
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The simple answer is no, they wont.
You'll get 2.3 on your DHD eventually, just be patient! Would you rather they rush it and it be full of bugs, or they take their time and it be have less bugs?
If you want fastest updates trade DHD for Nexus S
PS - You think Samsung are bad? LG are worse!
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Google only recently released the source code, do you expect htc to port sence over night?

I don't think they should port sense overnight... but...its like nearly 2months now. What annoys me with HTC is you buy their latest flagship device, only to find you get gazzumped a couple of months later by a different device with a newer software..and makes you think is there any point in buying latest HTC handsets when this happens...or maybe its Googles fault, if they communicated better instead of saying at the end of the summer 'Gingerbread is on its way', and actually said when its arriving and on what etc ppl could make better choices.
Added to this is that by the time they do release an update, the phones a year old, theres newer ones...you get one...then its groundhog day again. No doubt HTC have another DHD coming out soon with a front facing camera bla bla bla anyway, and also i think the reason they take so long is that its not a priority to them, their priority is investing their resources in pushing out yet newer handsets just to snare new victims..
btw for anyone, i asked HTC about an update about 2 weeks ago, they told me they wont be releasing one and to contact my network carrier...network carrier pointed me back to HTC.
anyway , rant over

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I don't think they should port sense overnight... but...its like nearly 2months now. What annoys me with HTC is you buy their latest flagship device, only to find you get gazzumped a couple of months later by a different device with a newer software..and makes you think is there any point in buying latest HTC handsets when this happens...or maybe its Googles fault, if they communicated better instead of saying at the end of the summer 'Gingerbread is on its way', and actually said when its arriving and on what etc ppl could make better choices.
Added to this is that by the time they do release an update, the phones a year old, theres newer ones...you get one...then its groundhog day again. No doubt HTC have another DHD coming out soon with a front facing camera bla bla bla anyway, and also i think the reason they take so long is that its not a priority to them, their priority is investing their resources in pushing out yet newer handsets just to snare new victims..
btw for anyone, i asked HTC about an update about 2 weeks ago, they told me they wont be releasing one and to contact my network carrier...network carrier pointed me back to HTC.
anyway , rant over
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That's just how it works though.
You buy something and a few months later it's out of date.
It's the way of the tech world and has been for years.
There's no malice or trickery involved, it's just business.

CitizenLee said:
That's just how it works though.
You buy something and a few months later it's out of date.
It's the way of the tech world and has been for years.
There's no malice or trickery involved, it's just business.
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Maybe my insinuation of malice and trickery is a little unfair..but having said that, I guarantee if Id contacted HTC before buying the DHD in October and asked wld it get Gingerbread update they would have said 'sure, course you will, everyone gets updates'..knowing full well it wld take months and months to get the updates.
And if I'd contacted Google and said I was thinking of buying an android handest when is latest software gona be incorporated, they would have said 'we arent sure' just so I would get the DHD another registered android device for them...even though they know full well the likely release, and handsets that will release with it way in advance...so in a sense it is trickery, but guess thats business for you...neither wants to jeopardise a potential sale for their stats
so the snare is recoiled ready for the next victim

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Google only recently released the source code, do you expect htc to port sence over night?
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I wonder how hard it can really be... they probably just dont have any friggen (unit/automation) tests. The API from 2.2 to 2.3 has barely changed. Imagine you had to wait for a new Ubuntu release just to get a kernel update...
Given they managed to screw up the 1.72 release and havent even uploaded the source code for that kernel, does not make me very enthusiastic about actually seeing 2.3 out anytime in the next 6-9 months.

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I wonder how hard it can really be... they probably just dont have any friggen (unit/automation) tests. The API from 2.2 to 2.3 has barely changed. Imagine you had to wait for a new Ubuntu release just to get a kernel update...
Given they managed to screw up the 1.72 release and havent even uploaded the source code for that kernel, does not make me very enthusiastic about actually seeing 2.3 out anytime in the next 6-9 months.
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I'm sure if enough people emailed htc and quoted the gpl, htc would have to release the source, after all it states the source should be made availible on request
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chrisr27 said:
What annoys me with HTC is you buy their latest flagship device, only to find you get gazzumped a couple of months later by a different device with a newer software..and makes you think is there any point in buying latest HTC handsets when this happens...or maybe its Googles fault, if they communicated better instead of saying at the end of the summer 'Gingerbread is on its way', and actually said when its arriving and on what etc ppl could make better choices.
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The software updates all work on about a 6 month cycle (give or take). It's made very clear from the outset that new software is in the pipelines, they just don't set a concrete date, they just simply release it when it's ready.
The same can be ready for HTC. They're actually good with a lot of their updates in comparison to a lot of manufacturers. There are a few devices which never even got an update to 1.6.
HTC will release an update when it's ready.
If you don't want to wait, install a CyanogenMod ROM.

I think other manufacturers can only learn from HTC..
for example, OTA with Froyo came to Desire in August 2010, this is some 3 months after Google released it..
DHD is still HTC's flagship and I think we will get 2.3 in some 2-3 months

Bear in mind that apart from the Nexus S no one is running an official Gingerbread build yet, so it's not as if HTC are behind the curve here so please get some perspective

Guys, it has been mentioned already but I just want to add that I have also read a report saying that 2.3 will be available in 6 months aprox. after initial release. Best strategy IMO, don't bother checking or thinking about it as it won't help and it will become obsession.

AndroHero said:
I'm sure if enough people emailed htc and quoted the gpl, htc would have to release the source, after all it states the source should be made availible on request
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To have to request the source, violates the GPL. The fact that it is not immediately available upon release also violates the GPL.

so HTC just answered to ma my email:
Thank you for contacting us
We re excited about our upcoming updates, as for the Android 2.3 update, certrainly some of our phones will be receiving this upgrade, however, for the time being, there’s no information regarding which phones will be receiving it nor the schedule of its release.
Please note that you can contact us via support line. For further details, please go to http://www.htc.com/europe/CA_Hotline.aspx, you'll find a toll free number that you can dial only from a landline.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number
Sincerely,
Amr
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Gingerbread only runs on Nexus S at the moment... You won't expect it to be here, one DHD that soon. At least wait for SGS to have it first.