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I just upgraded to WM6 and I installed the same applications which were installed back when I have WM5. One of them if SpB Plus, whereby I put the RAM icon (for running program) at the 1st tab.
I noticed that after running the same applications I typically used back in WM5 (messaging, Pocket Information, SpB Insight, Phone Alarm, etc.), WM6 didn't release the memory back as much as WM5.
Example (after running the above program, then closing all of them - NOT minimizing:
WM5: ~21 Mb
WM6: ~ 18 Mb
I tried this about 4 times with 2 separate 8525, one running WM5 and the other WM6.
Forgot to mention: the file that seems to keep growing after opening/closing application is filesys, checked using MemMaid.
Anyone experienced this?
Which version of WM6 are you running?
I am using LVSW Edition (2007-03-15). I haven't tried the 2007-03-20 since I get really tried re-installing different WM6 ROM and re-installing the apps over and over again. Sooo.. I am waiting to see if other have the same problem with various version of WM6 before plunging myself for another 4 hours of reinstalling everything.
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I am using LVSW Edition (2007-03-15). I haven't tried the 2007-03-20 since I get really tried re-installing different WM6 ROM and re-installing the apps over and over again. Sooo.. I am waiting to see if other have the same problem with various version of WM6 before plunging myself for another 4 hours of reinstalling everything.
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try this ROM and let me know how you go...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1180792&postcount=1
I was about to, but I held back because I want to ask if anyone, who have either the LSV or the Black WM6 ROM can tell me if they have the same issue, simply just by looking at the RAM level.
Not that I am lazy, but I have gone on installing ROM so many times it's just not fun anymore and hoping that someone can just post about the memory issue.
UPDATE: I found out that using SkTools "FreeRam" tool, I can free up the memory, but not by much (extra ~1-2 Mb).
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I was about to, but I held back because I want to ask if anyone, who have either the LSV or the Black WM6 ROM can tell me if they have the same issue, simply just by looking at the RAM level.
Not that I am lazy, but I have gone on installing ROM so many times it's just not fun anymore and hoping that someone can just post about the memory issue.
UPDATE: I found out that using SkTools "FreeRam" tool, I can free up the memory, but not by much (extra ~1-2 Mb).
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well y dont you install the ROM... and use Task Manager to see how much memory each program is using... and do bechmark tests like every hour or so if your really worried about it that much...
Read my post above: installing ROM and re-installing everything is not a 30 minutes gig. Plus, a real testing will involve normal usage, not just running 1-2 apps and watching the screen.
I merely asking for the community assistance for those who have installed the Black version or has noticed similar problem.
Why are you giving me nasty remarks? TIred of installing ROMS?
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Read my post above: installing ROM and re-installing everything is not a 30 minutes gig. Plus, a real testing will involve normal usage, not just running 1-2 apps and watching the screen.
I merely asking for the community assistance for those who have installed the Black version or has noticed similar problem.
Why are you giving me nasty remarks? TIred of installing ROMS?
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calm down... im not giving nasty remarks...
was mierly suggesting that you try it out... and leave task manager running and open the applications you are worried about to actually see if it is releasing the memory or not...
i also am sick of flashing ROMs everyday... but thats how you get to learn about different ROMs and their flaws...
I would suggest bringing this to SPB's attention as you seem to have a difference with WM5 and WM6. If this is a must app for you, then until SPB updates their software to be more friendly with the yet-to-be release crossbow OS, you should probably stick to WM5... think of all the extra time you'll have left over to do other things than install and test... especially if it's not fun for you.
Since the first WM6 ROM was made available, I've received WM6 compatible released software from SBSH, Wisbar, CE-Star (Chinese), Conduits, and CodeCity.
Here's one example:
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10476
We got our hands on the ROM before developers got their hands on the SDK. He got the SDK 06MAR and identified challenges posed by the new theme. 10MAR confirmed he'll a new rendering engine for the WM6 product t WBL. 16MAR released the update. Nicely done Chris.
And many thanks to the Chef's who continue releasing build improvements that address both shortcomings of the original ROM and additions that make some of the features more convenient.
Walshieau, many thanks to you also for your many informative and helpful posts and contributions to the XDA community.
Cheers to All
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I would suggest bringing this to SPB's attention as you seem to have a difference with WM5 and WM6. If this is a must app for you, then until SPB updates their software to be more friendly with the yet-to-be release crossbow OS, you should probably stick to WM5... think of all the extra time you'll have left over to do other things than install and test... especially if it's not fun for you.
Since the first WM6 ROM was made available, I've received WM6 compatible released software from SBSH, Wisbar, CE-Star (Chinese), Conduits, and CodeCity.
Here's one example:
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10476
We got our hands on the ROM before developers got their hands on the SDK. He got the SDK 06MAR and identified challenges posed by the new theme. 10MAR confirmed he'll a new rendering engine for the WM6 product t WBL. 16MAR released the update. Nicely done Chris.
And many thanks to the Chef's who continue releasing build improvements that address both shortcomings of the original ROM and additions that make some of the features more convenient.
Walshieau, many thanks to you also for your many informative and helpful posts and contributions to the XDA community.
Cheers to All
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happy to try and help...
I don't use SPB anything, any after about a day or so, I get about 19MB free. A fresh soft reset, gives me 25MB free.
@darkjedi
If the task manager icon is present in the settings menu (go to start>settings>system(tab)>task manager) then tick the top two boxes and when you press the X button it will actually exit the program you are using. You may have many programs running in the background which you are unaware of, by soft resetting this clears the memory and the programs present are those on startup.
@lanwarrior
Version 0.2 of WMXL has a memory cache fix cab, not sure if this will work on LVSW but it is worth a shot, the memory usage improves after installing this, might be worth a shot....if all else fails perform a hard reset and then maybe flash a different WM6 ROM (Black v1.2 or WMXL 0.2??).
I'm actually using the HTC Task Manager, and am closing the apps. I'm using LVSW 3-15-07 ROM. It's working great. It's not really a complaint honestly, just a little annoyance.
I used to love SPB Pocket Plus mainly for its X Button app, Battery meter and quick launch on today screen.
I did find it used to chomp extra resources and every time I returned to the today screen there was always a second or 2 pause while the today screen plugin refreshed.
I've since switched to Batti, Scott Seligman's Launcher and the HTC Task Manager. Same functionality but way less on system resources and memory.
gurubumsmack said:
I used to love SPB Pocket Plus mainly for its X Button app, Battery meter and quick launch on today screen.
I did find it used to chomp extra resources and every time I returned to the today screen there was always a second or 2 pause while the today screen plugin refreshed.
I've since switched to Batti, Scott Seligman's Launcher and the HTC Task Manager. Same functionality but way less on system resources and memory.
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Thanks for mentioning alternates to SPB PP, which is a disaster on Black v 1.2, in my and other's experience. I am going to get them and give them a try.
I mentioned SpB plus because I use their memory meter to monitor the memory usage for the device, irrespective of the applications, SPb or not.
I am going to remove SPB Plus, but I think this is not the primary cause. I have SpB Plus running overnight with no other applications running (today's plug-in or messaging auto-connect) and the memory usage didn't change.
I think it's more of opening and closing applications, whatever they are.
Those who are using NON-SPB applications but monitor their memory using whatever you have, let us know if the memory usage decrease far more than WM5 over time when you open and close applications.
I mentioned SpB plus because I use their memory meter to monitor the memory usage for the device, irrespective of the applications, SPb or not.
I am going to remove SPB Plus, but I think this is not the primary cause. I have SpB Plus running overnight with no other applications running (today's plug-in or messaging auto-connect) and the memory usage didn't change.
I think it's more of opening and closing applications, whatever they are.
Those who are using NON-SPB applications but monitor their memory using whatever you have, let us know if the memory usage decrease far more than WM5 over time when you open and close applications.
If you want to run SPB Pocket Plus, do not try Black edition. It has compatability issue. (I personally will not try any Black Edition again unless more than 10 people confirm the issue has solved.)
I need my phone device for work, can't be beta tester all the time...(more than 15 reflash on same Black Edition. Even the creator of ROM indicate the fixed, but he hasn'y really test it.... Personally, I like Black edition the most, but....)
I am currently running LVSW late edition, very stable. I am running OS only with more space edition. Radio 1.38.0.10 seems to enhance the battery life. Maybe I am using Black Edition's black theme.
Penske MB said:
If you want to run SPB Pocket Plus, do not try Black edition. It has compatability issue. (I personally will not try any Black Edition again unless more than 10 people confirm the issue has solved.)
I need my phone device for work, can't be beta tester all the time...(more than 15 reflash on same Black Edition. Even the creator of ROM indicate the fixed, but he hasn'y really test it.... Personally, I like Black edition the most, but....)
I am currently running LVSW late edition, very stable. I am running OS only with more space edition. Radio 1.38.0.10 seems to enhance the battery life. Maybe I am using Black Edition's black theme.
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everyone has a right to post chump... but did you try the workaround and remove the Safe Mode?
if your going to bag someone's ROM... y dont u do it in the ROM's thread insdead of cluttering others???
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......can't be beta tester all the time........
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Since these cooked WM6 roms available (Vanilla, WMXL, Black, LVSW, 3DES.1) are all based on early (possibly beta) versions of WM6 you WILL be beta testing them until we can get a fully stable version.
Its thanks to hard working individuals like Kyphur, walshieau, jasjamming, lvsw, olipro, pof et all ~(apologies if ive missed anyone out that REALLY should be mentioned) that these ROMs are getting more and more stable every time a new version is released, if you dont like using them then revert back to WM5. But dont go wragging on the authors just because software DESIGNED FOR WM5 doesnt work on them.
Id suggest cooking your own WM6 version as it may help you appreciate the work put into these releases....free of charge may i add.
Hi every1!
This is my first post here on XDA and I'm here to bug you a 'lil... xD
I got Hermes maybe 10 days now and already made him sexy, specially cause of this ROM! Good job miffymiffy!
...Even if Manila isn't made for this "weak" HTC, this version here works almost perfect for me (well, how perfect can be Manila on Hermes? )...
First ROM i installed was also Manila, but my phone was sooooo slow and buggy...
I have some questions regarding this ROM.
1. On this TF2D menu, I cannot add programs/apps on the programs tab, also, people tab isn't working (I cannot add ppl to the menu). Can I do something about it to make it work?
2. I cannot manage soft buttons. Default ROM left button (i think) needs to be calendar and the right one iContacts, but I got "Phone" and "Programs" buttons which I cannot change (even with Soft key manager app)...
3. When I turn on my Hermes, it has around 19.XX MB of free RAM, but if I play around with my phone, it drops to 9MB... Why is that?
Would flashing the ROM again help to solove this things above?
Anyway, I'm glad that XDA exists otherwise I would be bored...
P.S. Do U suggest some other (better maybe!?) Manila TF2D ROM...?
Cheers everyone!
I can't help you much with the issues, but I can suggest a couple of ROMS. Josh & TAI both have light Manilla that look good. I personally don't like manilla ROMS just because they hog system resources. But check those out, they were pretty sweet.
Well yeah, I also hate Manila cause it slows down the sys, but I'm addicted to it and NEED to run it...
I simply love this kind of flash interface...
I am loving all the custom ROMS that are out there but why are there not any ROMS based off the original cube that came with the phone? I thought the functionality of the cube was cool but it was a secondary function that most people did not use. What if the phone loaded with the cube as the main tool for operating the phone and then each side of the cube worked the same way the tabs do in M2D? Now it seems like most ROMS have completely removed the cube function altogether.
Just wondering.
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I am loving all the custom ROMS that are out there but why are there not any ROMS based off the original cube that came with the phone? I thought the functionality of the cube was cool but it was a secondary function that most people did not use. What if the phone loaded with the cube as the main tool for operating the phone and then each side of the cube worked the same way the tabs do in M2D? Now it seems like most ROMS have completely removed the cube function altogether.
Just wondering.
u2gator
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Cube has pretty much ran its course and people have moved on to newer shiny things LOL
Cube seems to also been a hassle with the TF2D/Manilla setup as well hence the reason most disable it
Now the common is TF2d or 6.5 ROMs but there is alot of info here on original ROM like customs and you could cook up one to your likes then
Detroit Doug
yeah when I first got my phone I thought the cube feature was cool and very iphone like.. but now using NFSFAN's 6.1 rom with the diamond style scroll bar I would not bother going back to the cube.. you can see exactly what you are selecting at your fingertips instead of constantly swiping that freaking cube around.. yeah it doesn't look as cool but it gets the same job done faster.
Cube doesn't work with TouchFlo 2D, which, let's face it, is a much better interface than the original HTC Home. There's just not a demand for something that is less adequate, and nobody wants to make a ROM that they can't get a little donation money out of
The cube wasn't really all that great to begin with.
Hey,
Just install HTC Home/Cube yourself. No one is stopping you from downloading the cabs and installing.
Good luck.
I agree with the OP, I also miss the cube. The best part about it is the fact that it provides an EXTREMELY EASY way to open your commonly used programs over whatever you currently have running. M2D on the other hand requires the is a hassle in that you have to minimize everything, and then focus all your attention to scrolling, and then click. And then it becomes a chore to go back to what you were originally doing...on the cube all you had to do was either minimize the cube or X out of the program you just called up using the cube.
The cube was cool, but it's history lol! If you want the cube, use the custom cube.
I don't think the Cube is history at all. I think the reason Detroit Doug mentioned is the main reason it was abandoned: not compatible with TF2D. HOWEVER, with WM 6.5 ROMs springing up thanks to the likes of NFSFAN, I think it is worth looking into again to re-include the cube or some updated version of it.
Personally, I still don't see a launcher for speed-dials that beats it in convenience and speed. I use Touch Commander as a replacement myself. I believe it's the best cube replacement out there and you can get it for free really easily by doing a trial-pay.
I just built a rom from drellisdee's 21202 kitchen and the old cube app works great.
Wouldn`t the swiping gesture to open the cube interfer with the other gestures embedded in WM 6.5 though?
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I don't think the Cube is history at all. I think the reason Detroit Doug mentioned is the main reason it was abandoned: not compatible with TF2D. HOWEVER, with WM 6.5 ROMs springing up thanks to the likes of NFSFAN, I think it is worth looking into again to re-include the cube or some updated version of it.
Personally, I still don't see a launcher for speed-dials that beats it in convenience and speed. I use Touch Commander as a replacement myself. I believe it's the best cube replacement out there and you can get it for free really easily by doing a trial-pay.
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really? nothing faster ?
Im using the V7 and added the MyFavs on the main CHome screen...
one tap to MyFavs, swipe either right left, tap on face and hit dial.. seems about as fast as cube if not faster by not having to swipe up then scroll around
I personally really like the cube, but tech moves on, steam cars would still be all over if it didnt move on LOL
Detroit Doug
Anyone disabled TF3D and kept the original WM home screen interface? I personally disabled it and kept the original interface even though I don't like how the WM SMS look. I disabled it because I don't like the default TF3D colors and I tried changing it black, but it's a no go. I don't know why! I did change the background and the drop menu all black which looks pretty neat since anything black looks good. What I really want is the WM6.5 Zune interface so I can't wait for WM6.5 official release!!!
Let us know what you have.
TF3D does not appeal to me!
TF3D is pretty, so people "oooo" and "aaah" over the phone and buy it.
However, I still think that TF3D is a bunch of useless kitsch that gets in the way of actually using the phone effectively. After a few hours of it interfering with what I want to do, I turned it off. (At least this time it took a few hours and not a few minutes.)
This is especially true of the messaging (it's just in the way), and the photo album. (who wants to see tiny, slanted, distorted versions of the pictures?) It's been a while, so I cannot remember the other specific things that annoyed me.
TF3D was the first thing I disabled on the device... I don't like that I cannot choose my own programs and way of working.
I use Wisbar Advance and Wisbar Desktop
on my personal Touch HD I much prefered the TouchFLo interface to the standard windows one - saying that, that was running a Dutty ROM
However on my work TP2 - I have it disabled as it gets in the way of my business apps - i.e. MS Communicator etc.
TF3D has bad things an good things.
The biggest failure and that's why TF3D is just crap is because it's not intuitive and easy to use. Way to many steps to get things done, pretty useless taskbar (exepts for the killing programs part). You can do to much information on one screen at the same time and too little. It's nice that they include things like a calendar, but it's pretty useless and in many ways TF3D makes the use of third party software actually harder.
The very good things about touchflo 3d is the push pages, the scheduels, and the best thing is the fueture to see all of your conversation with one contact. I really love it. Next to that it's snappy and pretty.
Well I treid SPB mobile shell 3, but it just doesn't do it. Also many features, but the fact is: when I use my phone it's to get something done pretty quickly. I just want to be able that I have a good view of all the info I need (messages, appointments) in the least ammount of time and to be able to do something in little time. The regular wm is just very easy. Start - settings/programs - choose- done.
Seeing my messages when there is a new one I get a popup and pres view and I there. I do not have to click the task baar. Get a new screen there push on the button, then being transported to the touchflo tab and then have to choose the message.
THats 2 clicks vs 4/5 clicks.
I kept the default TF3d for now, as soon as the official WM 6.5 ROM will be available, I'll switch to the Titanium UI.
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TF3D was the first thing I disabled on the device... I don't like that I cannot choose my own programs and way of working.
I use Wisbar Advance and Wisbar Desktop
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I will give Wisbar Advance a try. Thanks!
I prefer Manilla2D over TF3D.
how
how do you disable tf3d??
cavenger said:
how do you disable tf3d??
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go to Settings>Personal>Today>, Items Tab & untick the TF3D then click OK
ty!! Need to find something to replace it now.
henh said:
go to Settings>Personal>Today>, Items Tab & untick the TF3D then click OK
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mschaffer said:
TF3D is pretty, so people "oooo" and "aaah" over the phone and buy it.
However, I still think that TF3D is a bunch of useless kitsch that gets in the way of actually using the phone effectively. After a few hours of it interfering with what I want to do, I turned it off. (At least this time it took a few hours and not a few minutes.)
This is especially true of the messaging (it's just in the way), and the photo album. (who wants to see tiny, slanted, distorted versions of the pictures?) It's been a while, so I cannot remember the other specific things that annoyed me.
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I totally agree!
SPB Mobile Shell 3.0. I like having one-touch access to everything I need (email, sms, weather, contacts, favorites, apps, etc...) right on the front page.
FEWidgets Ultimate 1.0b7
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ty!! Need to find something to replace it now.
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An interesting 'Widget' based replacement for TF3D I came on when I was looking around on XDA.
"FEWidgets Ultimate" by nicodega.
It replaces TF3D completely as a 'Today' plugin.
Basically one just has to install the CAB.
(Note: it will not show up under All Programs, but as a Today plugin only)
> Go into Settings> Today>
> Remove check next TF3D
> Enable Check next to FEWidgets Ultimate
Two versions- Large widgets and Small Widgets for anyone who needs a whole bunch of widgets.
I did try it out on my TMO TP2 and both versions basically work when I tested each separately.
Though I haven't tried fine-tuning each widget for my TP2 yet.
Enjoy.
i kept my TP1 and gave the TP2 to Dad whose TmoWing crapped out. Had to disable TF3D for him today. The last straw was contacts/call history will not allow you to dial out, it's link to the phone dialer was broken or something. I don't know if this is a result of a tweak I did or if the Tmo's TF3D version has a bug. After disabling TF3D, you can press the contacts again to call out. For future reference, anyone know the cause/solution?
Like above guy said, now I need a replacement for tf3d. The last version of BatteryStatus that I used was 1.04build266 from this time last year, which has since been replaced by HomeScreenPlusPlus or something like that. Anyone know of a stable version for the TP2? Stable enough for Dad?
Today Plugins
I kept the default TF3D, but with HDWall, because I love the eye-candy of the interface and I find it very intuitive to use. I have also tried other today plugins, such as PointUI Home 2, FEWidgetsUltimate and iPhonetoday, but none of them felt as smooth and easy to use as TF3D for me. Out of the other interfaces I tried I find FEWidgetsUltimate to be the best.
LINK - iPhoneToday
LINK - FEWidgetsUltimate
LINK - HDWall
LINK - PointUI
EDIT: On my previous device I tried SPB Mobile Shell - LINK
I also got rid of TF3D. IMHO that is eye candy for people who don't know how to use a computer - and that is still a large number of people out there using phones. W/o TF3D I get things quicker done and have more flexibility to set up the phone the way I use it best.
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I kept the default TF3D, but with HDWall, because I love the eye-candy of the interface and I find it very intuitive to use. I have also tried other today plugins, such as PointUI Home 2, FEWidgetsUltimate and iPhonetoday, but none of them felt as smooth and easy to use as TF3D for me. Out of the other interfaces I tried I find FEWidgetsUltimate to be the best.
LINK - iPhoneToday
LINK - FEWidgetsUltimate
LINK - HDWall
LINK - PointUI
EDIT: On my previous device I tried SPB Mobile Shell - LINK
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Thanks for the link! HDWall and Mobileshell looks nice.
It is VERY usefull for me! I can't use without! I'm bored by WinMo interface.
I too found TF obtrusive and unintuitive so switched it off. I used to use SPB Mobile Shell on the Kaiser and liked it, but I'm a bit fed up of the way it doesn't integrate with Informant and Flexmail, so I'm back to the WM interface and don't miss all the bloat.
hi sorry if this has been posted millions of times but does anyone know if there is a fast wm6.5 becuase when ever if use them they r about 18mb for programs and that realy slowws it down so if u know of a rom that runs about 25mb when ur actually using it not what the post says anything better would be amazing thx sorry if this has already been posted
If you want really stable ROMs: 218xx builds (where the Start button is at the top)
Or try the newest Moonspell ROMs, they're more finger-friendly and you can choose different versions (with Manila, Titanium or Lite).
thx i tried nearly all of the moonspel and they are really good but have alot of lag
so buy a new device that has more ram and rom... or use 6.1
or write feedback to know wich problems it has maybe this will be closed many people can comes and see ... mmm so moonspell roms has lags...
maybe trying newer devices with newer OS gives you a new dimension of why does hermes has lag with 6.5
cheers
What did you expect? The Hermes is 3 years old, was the flagship that led to a lot of the newer phones and is insufficient in the RAM department. It works pretty well for its age...
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What did you expect? The Hermes is 3 years old, was the flagship that led to a lot of the newer phones and is insufficient in the RAM department. It works pretty well for its age...
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I agree, The Hermes is a great device and it's easy to try everything to get it work. Only RAM (a big problem for me). I have so many good apps but i can't put it in rom because the RAM is not too much for all apps. It make me many time headache during cooking roms.
The new build wm6.5 doesn't work really good with old apps, i expert to buy new one or except the ROMs how it offer you in the Hermes development.
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Let me ask a couple of dumb questions.
What are Titanium roms?
What are manila2d roms?
Everyone talks about memory. Does having flash memory make any difference?
Can added titanium plugins be run from the flash memory?
XDA Shutdown. What is it?
How do you install a theme, like one of the 6.5 titanium themes?
Is there any way to turn the phones GSM off and use the wifi by itself? I don't have a data pkg with my carrier.
Titanium and Manila are basically today screen plugins. Go to Settings>Home>Items, you'll see some plugins there (Titanium is Windows Default, Manila is TouchFlo2D). The difference to the "old" owner/calendar/tasks plugins is that they are more finger-friendly.
For the other questions, just read a bit in the forums .
thanks
Yes, I've been reading...thousands of posts going back 3 years. I thought I would cut to the chase and ask a direct question.
What you think was the right thing to tell me about Titanium, meant Jack to me. I do know that some roms have Titanium and some don't. There is a whole page of wm6.5 titanium skins, but at this point, I still don't know what Titanium is. You say go to Settings..Home..Items. I'm using one of the roms from mr moonspell. His wm7 project rom. When I go to Settings..Home...Items, I see "Windows default", "Date", "wireless","Owner info". That's not telling me what titanium is.
I need a definition. I see roms with a scrolling, vertical line of words like
Text
Accessories
Connections
Multimedia
etc
Is that Titanium?
On Pays 6.1 Rom, its different. There is no vertical line of words.
I'm asking the question. What makes that rom structure different from mine? Or what is the name of it?
When I do a search for "XDA shutdown", I get 100s of posts, none telling me what it is. I guess I'll just wait til someone else has the time to answer the other questions. But thanks for answering one of them.
When I search for XDA Shutdown, I get this .
Try to disable all items, tap on OK and go to your Home Screen. You only see your wallpaper. Now enable Windows Default, and you'll see what Titanium is once you go to the home screen. The same for Manila, it's just another kind of interface. Some ROMs have those cooked in, while others don't.
That scrolling line is your Start Menu, in normal 6.5 ROMs it has a hexagon structure but some people have customized it to display as a list.
ok
Okay, I understand what you mean now. The honeycomb structure. That's what you're referring to.
I read the XDA shutdown, but don't quite understand. On my phone, I have an icon and it says XDA shutdown. Is this
just another way to shut the phone down? Pressing XDA Shutdown, instead of the power button?
Well, XDA Shutdown offers more features - turn off, soft-reset and shut down (like taking out the battery).
And do you now understand what Titanium is? The honeycomb structure is unrelated, it's just the Start Menu.
titanium
yes, I understand what titanium is.
problem
I had gotten a little afraid to touch too much. I first installed Pays 6.1 rom. I clicked on an icon I didn't know what was. It was an icon of a phone with light bulb next to it. Suddenly, my phone went dark. I couldn't see anything to make any changes back. I did a hard reset to get it back to normal. This is my first pocketpc phone. I'm used to the old phones that dont have windows on them. These phones are much more complicated.
Ah, you were in Settings>System>Backlight and set the screen brightness to zero. Your screen was on, you could have seen something if there was some light around you .
Just open the Comm Manager by pressing the hardware button on the right side under the power button, there you can turn off the GSM.
I recommend you to just play around a bit, that bad experience of your is really singular .
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This phone is like carrying around a brick. Its too big to put in my pocket. I tried keeping it in my coat pocket, but getting out of the car, its easy to fall out. Looks like all the new phones for 2010 are these big screen ones. I see in Comm manager where I can turn the phone off and the wifi on, so I plan to keep the phone atleast to use for the internet. My contract runs out in October. There is a new carrier here in the states, owned by Walmart, on the Verizon network. $45/month unlimited everything or $30/month 1000 minutes, 1000 text and 30 meg web. No contract either. I'm gonna go with them.