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Is anyone else having the problem where after a soft reset(or a manual shutdown/restart) touchflo3d doesn't autostart?
It happens to me about 50% of the times I reset, but I jus thave to switch it off again and on again and usually it works fine.
Totally different, but I have this sometimes with Touch Flo 2D on my TyTn II. I usually get it if I've installed to much, It always launches if I haven't got the Micro SD card in though.
I've had this happening to me since I got it, and after a few hard resets it still happens... Seemingly at an increasing frequency too.
Yup, I'm experiencing the same problem.
It's really annoying, and more people are having this issue.
There's already a thread about this.
What works for me most of the time is this:
- Disable TF3D in settings.
- Soft reset device with power button
- Enable TF3D again
- Sometimes TF3D starts now, but if not reset again.
I can't wait for a more stable and fast cooked rom
Hope this helps
Oh Sorry, I couldn't find the other thread. I just keep resetting and hopee it randomly decides to starts. Love this phone, just a few things that really annoy me
The inability to find a way to make it autolock(not standby) after X seconds for example. If anyone can help with that, I'd greatly appreciate it.
aiaob said:
Oh Sorry, I couldn't find the other thread. I just keep resetting and hopee it randomly decides to starts. Love this phone, just a few things that really annoy me
The inability to find a way to make it autolock(not standby) after X seconds for example. If anyone can help with that, I'd greatly appreciate it.
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DId you install any apps?
These kind of problems are mostly caused when 2 programs interfere with eachother. Teh reason why one time it does start up and the other time it doesn't is the sequence of programs starting up. Most of the time touch flow 3d will start later (because it's so big)
i have had this happen a couple of times as well.
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DId you install any apps?
These kind of problems are mostly caused when 2 programs interfere with eachother. Teh reason why one time it does start up and the other time it doesn't is the sequence of programs starting up. Most of the time touch flow 3d will start later (because it's so big)
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I doubt it's caused by that. I've hard reset it installed core and tomtoma nd had it happen..
and I'm sure it's not just slow to start up, I've tried making calls and simply leaving it for 10 minutes and it still doesnt start up.
It only started haooening to me after I instaled software.
I guess the best thing to do right now, is to install all software with touchflo disabled, then reboot completly the device to finalize the instaltion, and then reboot it again. Now you can reactivate Touchflo again.
This "trick" has worked perfectly on my Pro 2
HastaSSSS
disable startup
Many programs that you install will leave a startup file in the windows\startup directory. Try cutting and pasting them to some temporary directory. I did that with poutlook and slovoed and the problem has gone away for me, without in any way impairing my calendar/contacts or slovoed functioning.
I got the same problem too.. soft resetting a few times do it or disable/re-enable on Personal-Today Items screen
Kinda annoying
Same problem here. Spoke to HTC today and tol them there were more people having this problem. Mine is so serious that it won't start at all! HTC says I was the first and ONLY one in the world with this problem. They told me that if there were more people having this issue they should CALL HTC. It's free to call them... please do so in finding a solution!
Thanks!
I am suffering under the same issue! It is really annoying! HTC should immediately sovle this problem!
Sounds a bit like my thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3950507
I copied manila.exe from windows to my start-up folder, now it works fine.
yeah i have the same problem its really annoying. it works about 90% of the time now when i copied the manilla.exe to start up folder. before that i tried to put the phone in airplane mode before booting but that worked like half of the time.
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I copied manila.exe from windows to my start-up folder, now it works fine.
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Does the time on the tf3d homescreen update ok when you use the manila.exe shortcut?
touch flor not loading
My phone is hanging again. I can't get it to load Touch Flo 3D. I get this message that it's trying to activate handsfree network and then it says connected and reboots and goes through the same thing 2 or 3 times. I hard reset back in Dec cause of this and then the same thing happened again about a month ago and out of the blue it loaded touch flo and fixed itself.
But this time it's been a couple days and my phone is so slow it's crazy. It's been trying to remove one program for 20 minutes. I thought removing a few programs might help instead of doing another hard reset but it looks like i'm gonna have to do one more.. I haven't added anything new lately. And I even got a message saying your phone can not boot up because of a program from an untrusted source or something else and it wants me to hard reset. It says press volume up to reset or any key to continue and then it goes to that hands activation screen.
Iv'e tried enableing and disabling bluetooth. Sprint store said I have a bad phone cause of that hands free actication message I keep getting and they want to order me aother phone but it's going to be a refurb so I guess i'll hard reset.. Something is causeing it to hang and not load and I don't know what it is.. But I came here and I tired puttingmy phone in airplane mode and rebooted nothng. I have unchecked and checked touch flo and rebooted..
But I went to windows and saw manilla.exe cause you guys said copy it to start up and I clicked on it and I saw my background and clock again but I don't think Touch Flo fully loaded and my task manager wasn't at the top and I ran clean ram cause it was still slow and it said it freed up 32mb but then my screen went black again. I put it in airplane mode once more and took out the battery. But when I never pasted the manila to start up should I do that? I just clicked on it and saw where my clock and background were back but my clock was off by like 15-20 minutes.. I'm sure I'll probablyt have to hard reset but wanted to ask around a couple more times before doing one.. Rose
I was sitting in my den and my friend said he texted me but I didn't get it. I went to check my phone and it seemed ok but no text. I then went to make a phone call and it hung. I went to turn it to airplane mode and it froze. When I restarted it, now I get the black screen with the top and bottom menu bar but no touchflo 3d loading. I get some weird hands free activation message and then it says successful and reboots my phone. When the phone starts back up it is in the same condition without touchflo 3d and the reboot loop continues unless I click cancel.
If I run manilla.exe it will boot up and my today screen will come back but it is SLOW and it doesn't seem to have completely loaded.
WTF happened and how do I fix this?
Same thing happened to me.. Touchflo wouldn't load phone was so slow hands free message kept coming and saying connected and rebooting. I did a hard reset and was good for a couple months then out of the blue on day it did it again. I turned off phone and left battery off overnight and just got lucky and the next day as I was getting in my car it came back on.
But then a few weeks later it did it again and I took it to a Sprint store. I was told that the handsfree activation is something that only happens once when you 1st get a new phone and they said my phone was defective. They were going to order me another one but it was going to be refurbed so I never picked up and just dealt with a hard reset once again. Don't know what causes this but I've had my phone reset for over a week and I just now tonight started putting apps back on cause I was afraid ut had to do with something I installed I really don't know what causes it.. But my touchflo wouldn't load at all compeltely black screen no today screen at all and boy was my phone slow. I went to windows and clicked on manilla.exe also and saw my today screen but it was still slow and not completely loading up to touchflo like you said. And then I read about putting it in airplane mode turning off BT nothing worked for me this last time so I did a heard reset again..
Maybe someone else knows what causes this but I'm leary and am not going to put everything back on my phone that was on there but I've put most everything back.. Sorry I wasn't much help but same thing for me hands free siad connected and would reboot and over and over.. I kind of want an Android phone now and I don't think Sprint should of offered me a refurb when I just bought this in Sept and it's an expensive phone. But oh well things happen.. Good Luck!
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I was sitting in my den and my friend said he texted me but I didn't get it. I went to check my phone and it seemed ok but no text. I then went to make a phone call and it hung. I went to turn it to airplane mode and it froze. When I restarted it, now I get the black screen with the top and bottom menu bar but no touchflo 3d loading. I get some weird hands free activation message and then it says successful and reboots my phone. When the phone starts back up it is in the same condition without touchflo 3d and the reboot loop continues unless I click cancel.
If I run manilla.exe it will boot up and my today screen will come back but it is SLOW and it doesn't seem to have completely loaded.
WTF happened and how do I fix this?
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Hi all, I got my touch pro 2 through Orange a while back and I have this frustration which is really ticking me off. The touch screen stopped working!
It looked like it had a fine film of transparent oil which surrounded a fine grid pattern which you could see if you held your phone against the light at an obscure angle. Nothing is more infuriating than trying to back up your phone, or import emails onto the computer before sending it away for repair, to find that the back up software that comes recommended can't be installed because... wait... you guessed it.... you need the soddin touch screen to install the bloody thing.
My question to you guys is this, has anyone found a way to use the keyboard as an alternative to 'ok', 'cancel', 'install' and other important functions?
It has already been away for repair becuase of this 'recognised' issue, and now it's gone again. I'm getting fed up with HTC stuff going faulty on me, and i've had a lot of their products, however nice the phone is.
Thanks in advance for any and all assistance...
insomnai
These Instructions are out of date, and may not work anymore.
-CarComp
EDIT POST ON 5-5-2010
INSTRUCTIONS ARE IN BOLD!!!!!!!
EDITS AND MY OPINIONS ARE IN ITALICS
Want google and not winmo but can't wade through all of the confusion offered up by the supergeeks of android linux? Well just do these steps. It took me an evening to figure out these steps, and could whip it up instantly now.
BTW - it REALLY helps to have a computer with an SDcard slot adapter that handles the micro-sd cards. I don't really recommend trying all this with a USB cable, b/c once you get to linux only, you will kinda be screwed cause it doesn't quite work the same like windows CE. Also that and you can't format through the phone, so just get an adapter ok? Stop right here if you don't have one and just order one or go to walmart and spend 10 bucks and get one. BTW, your micro sd card should have come with one when you bought it, so go look for it.
Ok how to get the super Eclair android into NAND and live a happy life....
1, CHARGE YOUR PHONE UP ALL THE WAY BEFORE ANYTHING. When done charging, unplug whatever is in your USB port for the rest of this procedure. Having phone plugged in while flashing = BAD
2, get hard spl on your phone.
3, Install Hyperdragon IOlite on your phone to get the radio(1.65.24.36) that I recommend, which will improve battery life and possibly other things that I don't know about. Get it here -> http://sakajati.com/blogs/2009/02/hyperdragon-iv-iolite-based-on-htc-iolite/
4, format your 1+ GB sdcard using fat32 only.
5, download polyrhythmics dark / light build for nand and sdcard.
put that SINGLE FILE (androidinstall.tgz) into a folder in the root of the SD-CARD called "andboot" - Get it here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600154
6, go to http://sourceforge.net/projects/androidhtc/files/ and download KAISIMG-PANEL2-320-TILT.NBH if you have an ATT tilt. If you have something else, download that NBH.
7, Rename that NBH file to "KAISimg.nbh". Put it in the root of your storage card.
8. Now you are ready to install to nand. Get out your stylus, hold down the camera and power button and press the reset button with the stylus. It should go to an updating screen. If you don't get a white screen with a progress bar, but instead it still shows tri color and says "serial" then you did something wrong. Start over from step 1. Once you get to 100%, wait 20 seconds or something (just for shihtz and giggles) and then pull out the battery.
9. Now, put it back in, press power and wait for android to start booting. You will know cause all this random looking text will go by. You have to be quick to do it, but press the middle button on the d-pad when it says 'press the middle button to enter setup' or soemthing like that. (EDIT: I've been told that you have to just hold the d-pad center button down. Either way, just get that button pushed when it says to push it).
You will be presented with some options. Make sure the little asterisk is on the "NAND" option.
10. Go to the install (first option) and tell it to overwrite everything. It may ask you twice.
Now it should go into a fix of text and waiting and hanging, but be patient. You should eventually see a colorful "X" for about 10 minutes. Go to eat, have a beer, leave the house for awhile. Go mow the yard. Just don't use the phone. When you come back, go through the inital setup (touch the android, and skip everything else. Don't set up anything.) Now go mow the yard again. After about 5-10 minutes goes by, come back and pull out the battery. Put it back in and push power.
Crap your pants at the speed NAND offers. Install some live desktops (I like the starfield warp drive one from the google market.)
BTW: If you mess up your phone doing this, blah blah its not my fault blah blah you probably shouldn't be on these forums etc. Just make sure you have HardSPL and you will be fine. I've flashed hundreds of roms hundreds of times. Just that one little step will make your life easier.
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RADIO DETAILS:
I've heard a LOT about using the latest radio or whatever version 1.71 or soemthing. I run radio 1.65 just fine. I never upgraded it through out all of the android builds. I operate like this.. If you weren't having cell quality issues, GPS lock issues, or any other radio issues in WINMO, then android will be fine too. I've added a step to the process to install a specific winMO rom that has the radio that I use. If you don't like the fact that I'm telling people to use an older radio, so be it. I'm just spreading the word for what works REALLY well for me.
EDIT: (My thoughts on the panel 1 2 3 and the 320 or 428 or whatever...) Picking the right panel is like playing the 'cups and ball' game. if you know which one the ball is under, you will win. Well for you TILT users, the ball is under #2. I don't know why, but it is. If 2 doesn't work, use 1. Doesn't get simpler than that. As for the resolutions, just use the 320. Ya, some apps fit better on the higher res, but our screens don't support them really well, and its all blurry. Think of it like this..... using 4xx instead of 320 is like asking 3 pixels to display as 1, vs. one pixel displaying as one pixel very clearly. Polyrhymic has done a great job supporting our screen's native 320 size, so just use it.
EDIT: (An issue i've noticed with booting and having your phone plugged in). Android just won't do it on nand. You can charge your phone from a dead point for say 20 mins, unplug it, then turn it on, boot android then plug it back in. You can't plug it in, and turn it on. It gets stuck in some sort of USB status loop.
EDIT: (When your phone just sits there on the A N D R O I D text and won't boot). Seems like this has been happening a lot, for me too. I've found there are two ways to stop this, one is preventative... Don't let your phone go totally dead. The second, when you reboot your phone, press and hold dpad center, then just count to 10 and go to the QUIT option. 9 times out of 10 it will boot right up.
IF YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEMS, JUST REPEAT THE PROCESS.. Don't skip the full charge and installation of Hyperdragon first.
for may people on here, the fear of flashing isn't the problem. it's the missing features such as bluetooth, speakerphone and in some builds even camera.
I would LOVE to go nand. I hate not knowing if the problem is with the build or with the sucky sdcard.
but I need to revert back to winmo for bluetooth headset. once that or speakerphone works I am ON IT.
Nice, couldn't have said it better myself, a few small points, press and HOLD the centre button on Dpad, a quick press will not do it, I'd mention the radio version too, but those are not major issues, and can be sorted easily enough
Good advice about the card reader and adaptor, those two saved my ass a few times in the early days of Nand flashing, I keep a good stock winmo kaisimg.nbh on a spare SD card, you only need a 128Mb one for a stock rom.
Yes there are install instructions on the build posts, but a lot of the info is now spread though some 2000+ posts, so having it all in easy terms helps a load.
I have a question. What is the different those PANEL1, PANEL2 and PANEL3? And the following number 320 - 428 - 480?
And one more silly question, is Tilt the one without 3G camera?
Thx for the instruction, it is easy to understand and so helpful!
added info about panel stuff to the instructions
It is not a fear of flashing in NAND It is just the issue that not all the features works...CAMERA,Bluetooth, voicesearch, so when the features will work than probably everybody will change I know i will ))
my problem is, that i cant get to boot the android for the second time. it just hangs in first screen after booting and thats it...
tried to pull out the battery for 10minutes and still nothing...
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It is not a fear of flashing in NAND It is just the issue that not all the features works...CAMERA,Bluetooth, voicesearch, so when the features will work than probably everybody will change I know i will ))
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agreed, currently no gps working map that can be rely such as garmin that can work on winmo.. 1 disadvantage of android.. need to be online to get route..
Kurt Cobain said:
I have a question. What is the different those PANEL1, PANEL2 and PANEL3? And the following number 320 - 428 - 480?
And one more silly question, is Tilt the one without 3G camera?
Thx for the instruction, it is easy to understand and so helpful!
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320-428-480 là chỉ độ phân giải đó bạn.
320 is a resolution of 240X320 and the 480 is a resolution of 320X480
Mình biết được chừng đó thôi
Created another edit to the 1st post.
I'm not saying that android doesn't have its shortcomings, I'm just offering a quick means to get to NAND without trying to comprehend the whole thing in the traditional sense of reading 200 threads.
BTW my radio is 1.65.24.36
Maranevin, try flashing Hyperdragon IOlite first. Maybe a radio switch will prod your phone into the correct direction.
Errr, for newbs who don't know how to properly unlock their device isn't this dangerous? There IS a possibility of bricking your phone if you don't know what you're doing -- right?
Anyway, I would also mention that if you or your phone can't do 3G don't flash to NAND yet. The radio can't be instructed to use GSM only with the current poly build (and any other I have tried so far)
I totally agree with mnjm9b, the problem is not flash the phone, the problem is that there are many things that do not. In particular I am very happy with the performance of 2.1g polymod to date is the best I've worked.
carcomp thanks for the help, very good summary.
aikeru, if someone is flashing a phone, they probably know the risks. Its not my fault if they do something stupid. Is it autozone's fault if I buy specialty tools and ruin my engine changing a timing chain?
Anyways, I don't get the 3g thing. We have hardly any 2g or whatever is below 3g here in Mulberry Indiana and my android works fine.
Like I said, maybe i've found that magic mix of things that works really darn good.
BTW: major argument for using android.....
First of all, i'm not borg. I have yet to really get into bluetooth. I own two earpieces and the only good thing i've found is you can talk on the phone in freezing weather with you hands in your pockets. Bluetooth to mute car radios is cool, but I have a 20 year old car. I don't need bluetooth for file transfer cause i've got wifi, and SD CARD.
Second, as for the speakerphone, it never really was that loud anyways. I came from a hermes, which has a speaker like the voice of god, so i've never been impressed with the kaiser speakerphone.
Third, the camera... I have a nikon D60 with a speedlight for taking stills and lowlights, and a Kodak Z612 in my wife's purse most all the time for the past 3 years for video and spot shooting. All this data easily goes onto the micro sd card and into the phone.....
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10. Go to the install (first option) and tell it to overwrite everything. It may ask you twice.
Now it should go into a fix of text and waiting and hanging, but be patient. You should eventually see a colorful "X" for about 10 minutes. Go to eat, have a beer, leave the house for awhile. Go mow the yard. Just don't use the phone. When you come back, go through the inital setup (touch the android, and skip everything else. Don't set up anything.) Now go mow the yard again. After about 5-10 minutes goes by, come back and pull out the battery. Put it back in and push power.[/B]
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I've done all step above, just when i did this After about 5-10 minutes goes by, come back and pull out the battery. Put it back in and push power. it started back to Step 9 when i had to 'press the middle button to enter setup'.
So, i skipped that step, and then later everytime i tried to press reset button, the phone is freeze, then i had to started over again...
In some cases, my OK button became to POWER button...
And at first time, WIFI was OK, then it showed Unable to start Wi-Fi
Any suggestion for my troubles?
Thank you!!
Great!!
Hi all, Great!! I am now running Android on my kaiser and I love it!!!
Just a couple of questions for people who can answer them:
- How to change phisycal keyboard layout? I mean, some keys that I have in blue aren't the same I have on my keyboard...
- Is there any means to connect to a pc to transfer contacts and files?
Thank you all!!
Gnatto
Maranevim said:
my problem is, that i cant get to boot the android for the second time. it just hangs in first screen after booting and thats it...
tried to pull out the battery for 10minutes and still nothing...
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Same problem here. Someone please help. My device is now a worthless brick!!!!
Ok when this happens (its happened to me), first of all don't panick. If you've installed hardspl you are protected, and besides, just cause your phone won't boot android doesn't mean its bricked, it just means its not booting android.
There can be a multitude of things causing this, but the #1 reason I think is "Just because thats how it is"
First of all, don't boot your phone with it plugged in. Ever. Charge it first, then boot it, or charge it enough to make it through boot then plug it in when it reaches android.
Second, sometimes during boot, it just hangs where it says A N D R O I D, or some other text. You can get around this by resetting with stylus, then pressing the center dpad button, then just counting to 10 or 20 or some random number that makes you happy, then select quit. It should boot.
Thanks. Fortunately I unbricked it by putting the KAISDIAG.NBH file onto the SD card, then booted it. This unbricked it. I also put the the KAISIMG.NBH for the Android on here and it booted into the installer. My problem now is that when I click install to NAND, it says it has an error extracting from the SD card for the android installer. It then quits back to the main install screen. I think it is a permissions error since it says on the screen something about being read only. If anyone could help me, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.
Oh and btw, I never had usb plugged in since mine is broken.
Ok well you are on the right track. Before you do anything else though, flash a copy of windows Mobile. Either take your pick, or use hyperdragon. Its very complete ... radio / ext rom etc. Next, try reformatting your SD card using windows. Do a complete format, not a quick one. That might help. Now reflash using the link to kaisnbh that i posted.
Remember, installing windows mobile is your NAND reset. Its lot like an sdcard where you can just erase everything. You have to put something else there that is radically different. I may be wrong about this, but it seems to be the case more often than not.
You may be one of the special case people who have a weird phone that takes one of the other KAISimg.nbh files too, so don't discount that. Also since you have hardspl, and you are flashing from the sdcard, you phone is probably NOT going to brick, and even if it does screw up royally, if you can still get to tri color, you can fix it.
Ok. That's great to know. I'll try what you stated. Do I need to partition my SD card? Thanks again. I really appreciate the help.
I tried installing stock roms as well as cooked ones. I hard SPL'ed, installed newer radio to no avail. What can I do? It's too slow to be used properly.
When you install the ROMs, make sure you clear storage before, during, and after. If you do not clear the storage you may not completely flash all the old files, causing issues, lock ups, and slowness. Also, when testing new ROMs I make sure that all the CABs are compatible by taking a day or two before installing another one.
I tried to do what you recommended. Downloaded that task29 utility and wiped the phone's internal memory. Then I found a stock 6.1 rom and installed it. It looked like it was installing fine, but right now it's just stuck on a white screen and has been like this for the past 10 minutes or so. I don't know if it's going to go anywhere with this, or if it's stuck for good.
By the way, does anybody know EXACTLY where I can find a real stock 6.1 distribution? I'm asking because the ones I've been finding are named European and for other phone makes. It seems as if they are linked by other people as being the correct ones, but then when you go to download them, they turn out to be for other phones, or 6.5's instead of 6.1's. I didn't think it was going to be so hard just to find a stock 6.1 rom with which my phone initially came.
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I tried to do what you recommended. Downloaded that task29 utility and wiped the phone's internal memory. Then I found a stock 6.1 rom and installed it. It looked like it was installing fine, but right now it's just stuck on a white screen and has been like this for the past 10 minutes or so. I don't know if it's going to go anywhere with this, or if it's stuck for good.
By the way, does anybody know EXACTLY where I can find a real stock 6.1 distribution? I'm asking because the ones I've been finding are named European and for other phone makes. It seems as if they are linked by other people as being the correct ones, but then when you go to download them, they turn out to be for other phones, or 6.5's instead of 6.1's. I didn't think it was going to be so hard just to find a stock 6.1 rom with which my phone initially came.
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Which model/carrier do you have?
I have a T-Mobile Touch Pro 2
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I have a T-Mobile Touch Pro 2
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Well as long as you mean the US T-Mobile, the stock 6.1 rom is available HERE
I've tried that stock 6.1 from that thread many times, and it doesn't fully install. It goes through the installation, past the green screen with the windows logo, and then gets stuck on a blank white screen. I've tried many times installing it, and it gets hung on the white screen forever. The curious thing is that some other roms install however. One of the newer Energy roms, as well as the Deepshining one installed fine. The only problem is that everything still is extremely slow to respond. Physical buttons pretty much don't do anything at all.
The bottom four buttons don't light up. Pressing the call and end buttons works, but the home and back buttons don't do anything.
Also, pressing the power button doesn't really shut it off either.
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I've tried that stock 6.1 from that thread many times, and it doesn't fully install. It goes through the installation, past the green screen with the windows logo, and then gets stuck on a blank white screen. I've tried many times installing it, and it gets hung on the white screen forever. The curious thing is that some other roms install however. One of the newer Energy roms, as well as the Deepshining one installed fine. The only problem is that everything still is extremely slow to respond. Physical buttons pretty much don't do anything at all.
The bottom four buttons don't light up. Pressing the call and end buttons works, but the home and back buttons don't do anything.
Also, pressing the power button doesn't really shut it off either.
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Have you tried re-downloading the t-mobile 6.1 ROM? I guarantee you that's the stock ROM, and from a T-mobile 6.1. There's been numerous members that have gotten it to work, so the issue isn't with the ROM itself...
I agree that the issue is probably not the rom, because that stock rom has been used by lots of people. But the fact remains that this stock rom doesn't install on my phone, and certain custom roms do.
My phone is generally fcuked, I don't have insurance, and there's pretty much nothing I could do. There is signs of water damage under the screen, though the touch screen works fine, and the wet seal is pink..
Not trying to troll, just an advice.
I just sold my TP2 and bought an N1.
TP2 is just that - slow and unreliable. After 6 years of WinMo phones, Android feels like waking up from a nightmare. Dump that crap and get a real PDA.
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Not trying to troll, just an advice.
I just sold my TP2 and bought an N1.
TP2 is just that - slow and unreliable. After 6 years of WinMo phones, Android feels like waking up from a nightmare. Dump that crap and get a real PDA.
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But even the N1 isn't waterproof...so I don't think even that fine piece of hardware would have prevented the issues here
I have an android phone myself, the HTC G1 (Dream). I agree that android, though I can't really see all of it's guts like I can on a winmo phone, is more user friendly and stable. I've owned the G1 since the beginning of android's career, ever since that first Android OS was out. It was quite horrible at that time. It came through quite a bit now, as well in terms of all the different roms available.
I don't want to throw this TP2 away though. At this point I'm thinking of the things that I can do to get anything out of it. Apparently the phone insurance can only be purchased within 14 days of the phone purchase, so I'm late there. I just can't think of anything I can do. I'll know better next time to get insurance right away.
Hi,
Right in the middle of use, my ATT Tilt 2 went to a basic, dead screen with red, green, blue, and white bars that says Rhod300 32m SS-BC, etc.
The operating system seems have gone down--it won't respond to anything. Hard reset produces the same results.
Can I flash a cooked or official Rom back onto this? I think activesynch is needed for a normal flash and of course I can't use active synch with the phone in this condition.
I think probably what I need is an original ROM install. Is this possible with a normal Windows 7 PC and a dead phone?
I have so many Windows Mobile programs and peripherals that I am trying to avoid going to Windows Phone at all costs--at least until they have basic stuff like file systems, a way to port over notes, etc. Also need a hard keyboard.
Right now using an older Fuze, which works, but is slower, worse screen, smaller, and lacks some of the features I like.
Thanks for your help.
You sound like you're in the bootloader mode. Tri-color screen.
You can flash from USB or from SD at that screen. I'd recommend trying to flash a stock ROM - as it flashes everything. Assuming that works, hopefully you can flash back whatever ROM you were on.
The phone isn't dead if you're at the tri-color screen. It should say 'serial' at the bottom - when you plug in your USB cable, it should say 'USB' and install some drivers. Then with the RUU software that comes with every ROM, you should be able to flash it.
Phone won't reboot--stuck on tricolored boot screen
Hi,
Thanks so much for replying. I appreciate you pros helping us novices.
Just after I posted the first note, I pulled the battery and hit the power button, it rebooted, and everything was still there in the OS--working fine. But whenever the device had to be rebooted, I would have the same problem of it getting stuck in the boot screen. After that, for the last several days once in awhile, randomly, it would finally reboot from the boot screen after I pulled the battery and hit the power button. The rest of the time (about 5/1) it would just sit there in the boot screen no matter what I did. The "Serial"/"USB" thing would change when I plugged it in, but that's all.
Thought it was the OS, so at a lucky moment where the "pull battery, hit power button" strategy actually worked, I installed the latest official HTC/ATT Rom--it's the next to last one issued that ends in .4.
It was gorgeous and I got all excited--started installing stuff thinking my problem was solved.
Had to reboot to install some programs--now it is stuck again on the boot screen. Tried 30x again--no luck with the "pull battery/hit power button"
strategy. Sometime it would flash a white screen really quickly saying something like "Can't read image!" before going into permanent boot screen. The boot screen will switch from "Serial" to "USB" if you connect it to the computer. So, the problem doesn't seem to be in the OS--rather, in the ability of the device to "read" the OS from the boot screen.
I would be grateful if you or anyone else may know what's going on here, and any ideas on how to fix it. Is there any manual way to get it to read the OS from the boot screen when that's not happening?
I have two guesses (both of which may be wrong):
1. It may be something in the hardware is just worn out and is less and less able to read the Rom--any ROM. I got the phone new off Amazon for a profit of $50 ($.01 cost plus a refund for an older phone) in the summer of 2010 when it was already outdated. and WP was replacing WM. I've certainly gotten my money's worth after 18 months!
Of course we now know that a brand new ROM has the same problem as the older one--which suggests to me it's in the hardware. I'm sure the new OS and the stuff I installed is still there on the phone, but something it appears is not reading something in order to allow the boot up.
2. I have a squirrely free program called Rax Reset (from Windows Mobile Marketplace) that does a software-based hard or soft reboot from inside the OS. The very last time the device went down and didn't come back up, I had used that program to soft reset it. Might have been a big mistake. Could this program be causing the problem? If so, just one reboot would allow me to get rid of it or even hard reset to remove everything but the new OS--but can't get it to boot.
If it turns out the phone is just worn out, I've certainly gotten my money's worth.
I still love WM even with all its problems--and especially the newer Sense version. If this one is shot, I'm thinking about just buying a new Touch Pro2 on Ebay to avoid all of the sacrifices and backwards steps involved with Windows Phone.
Thanks for any help anyone can provide.
Phil Butin
Why are you crossposting? I read this EXACT same post in a thread just below this, in the same section. That's pretty low.. Crossposting across forums isn't welcome, crossposting within forums IN THE SAME SECTION is definitely not welcome.
Don't do it again.
Sorry, just trying to get help
Sorry, just trying to get help, not that familiar with the rules.
I searched on "bootloader" and found a thread (wrote a comment there too), but it's old....
Here is the thread. It doesn't really provide any solution.
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issues with bootloader.
Either way, whether you know the rules or not - why would you think copying and pasting the exact same words in the exact same forum help you any more...
Anyhoo, have you tried the usual? Flash stock? Sometimes I've heard you have to flash several times, I never really understood that logic tho.
I'll try to reinstall the HTC/ATT Sense OS again. I guess you're saying active synch doesn't need to be working in order to do that. I'm at work now--have to wait until i get home. Nothing to lose at this point.
But I'm seriously wondering whether the problem is the OS install or whether there is something in the device that is supposed to read the ROM and start the bootup that is just wearing out.
Thanks.
"No Image File"
The quick little flash of white screen has "No image file" in blue letters--goes by so fast you can hardly see it.
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The quick little flash of white screen has "No image file" in blue letters--goes by so fast you can hardly see it.
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That error message is 'normal'. Basically the phone checks the SD card for a file labeled "RHODIMG.nbh". If said file exists, it will flash from it. If no file exists, or no SD present - it continues loading bootloader and should say "Serial" at the bottom. This indicates that it's ready to be flashed. If you plug in your USB cable, it will install some drivers and then it should change to "USB" at the bottom instead of "Serial".
Now you should be ready to flash from a normal RUU. I would recommend flashing STOCK, because this flashes everything.
It might also be good to note a lot of people have experienced something similar - the phone getting "stuck" in bootloader mode, and only occasionally making it to WinMo. I'd guess it's failing hardware in some way shape or form, as none of my RHOD's or RAPH's have ever done this.
Good News--at least for now
Good news--I hooked it up to the computer with the USB cable for awhile and the Windows 7 computer did set up some drivers. For some reason after I disconnected it I reset it, and the reboot worked. Then I immediately uninstalled the squirrely reset program and removed it.
Everything I installed yesterday is working fine--I have soft reset it about 5 times now and each time it has rebooted. So I think maybe I'm back in business. Too soon to tell--but we will pray and keep our fingers crossed.
Thanks so much for your time and help. I don't know how to use the thanks meter but I would have if I could have.
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Thanks so much for your time and help. I don't know how to use the thanks meter but I would have if I could have.
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You're welcome. Basically if I or someone else posts something helpful, click the "Thanks" button under that post.
15 hours later, Tilt 2 is still working fine on the newly installed Sense OS. I have rebooted freely (using the stylus button on the side) since removing the program "Rax Reset," and everything seems to be going well. I'm keeping my fingers crossed, and will end my contributions to this thread with a warning about using "Rax Reset."
Thanks to all.