I did a search and didn't see anything about this, so I'll post my question.
Has anyone gotten this to work? I plugged in my a/v cable (3.5mm to RCA) into the adapter that came with the TP2, and it into the TP2 usb port, then connected the RCA ends to my TV and when I tried to start the TV out under settings, it said I needed the TV Out cable.
I couldn't find anything in the provided documentation about this (surprise). I don't have the HTC cable, nor do I have the iphone/ipod cable, but I can't believe that this one would be any different from the icrap one, it's a freaking standard.
Any one?
The video out is actually the usb port. You need to buy a cable that is usb to composite
If your cable is iPod compatible, you should be able to install this get TV Out to work.
this is what i bought and it works great with my sprint tp2 http://www.expansys-usa.com/d.aspx?i=179148
I dont understand what you mean by iPod compatible?
Dont I need HTC's special USB video cable? Does anybody have a wireing schematic on that so I can make one? I have a million 3.5mm to rca cables lying around but that wont work...
MustangChris04 said:
I dont understand what you mean by iPod compatible?
Dont I need HTC's special USB video cable? Does anybody have a wireing schematic on that so I can make one? I have a million 3.5mm to rca cables lying around but that wont work...
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From my understanding (my tilt2 hasn't come yet, so I can't confirm) you should have an adapter that comes with your device that converts the ext-USB into a 3.5 mm headphone jack. You can plug an HTC 3.5mm to RCA cable in that jack, or put an iPod compatible RCA cable (uses the same pinouts as HTC's cable and is essentially identical, but cheaper) and change HKLM\Software\HTC\H2W\TVOutCableIn to "1" in the registry in order to get it working. The software I linked to should do this automatically, so you don't have to do that each time. However, I don't know if this works on the TP2 since I don't have mine yet.
My touch pro 2 didnt come with that. I actually have a usb jack, and a 3.5mm headphone jack on the bottom. It is the Verizon version.
Ok, I followed the instructions on this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CLPjcImHAg&feature=fvw
I did both reg hack changing 0 to 1, as well as trying the icon under settings. The reg hack did bring up the screen, but nothing was outputted to the TV. I can't believe my 3.5mm -> RCA cable is any different than an "ipod compatible" one, it has the 4 bands on the 3.5mm jack and 3 RCAs for audio (l/r) and video. Is there something I'm missing? I don't want to buy the HTC usb/rca cable, and would be pretty upset if I got it and it still didn't work.
i tried it with my camcorder cable and the extusb adapter supplied with my phone. no luck. my camcorder cable only has 3 bands. does this make a difference? i have literally hundreds of cables. i'll have to search and try out a few others. or i'll just buy the official one on ebay if necessary.
I attempted this tonite. Did not work.
Sprint TP2
Apple iBook AV cable - 3.5mm -> 3way RCA yel, red, white
HTC EXTusb adapter.
tried 2 different cabs (enabletvout.cab and nuetvout-102-v1) as well as just changing the reg value to 1.
tried changing around the rca cables to the video input on tv..
I was able to get the tv out options to display on the phone, but NOTHING ever went out to the TV.
I hear people are having success with the oficial HTC tp2 tv out cable, which is a miniUSB -> 3 way rca.
Any success using the 3.5mm jack on a sprint tp2 ?
I had some luck with a cable I had but found that I needed to use the Red RCA as my video and the Yellow and White as audio.
JudgeDredd67 said:
I had some luck with a cable I had but found that I needed to use the Red RCA as my video and the Yellow and White as audio.
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i was all excited but that didnt work for me.
I had to purchase the extusb to av jack like this one.
AV Cable Works great.
You don't need to install the TV out cab. It will auto pop up when the cable is inserted. Most roms have this built in. The Tilt 2 stock rom does.
I used the original HTC OEM multi adapter with my 3.5mm RCA cable after prying it open and cutting the blue cable, which enables Tv out on my Tilt 2, but disables headphone use which is why im putting a switch in there.
well, I purchased the USB to video output cable and it workd fine.. HOWEVER only certain program work.. for instance, I wanted to see if I could watch sprint TV using the TV out and it tells me it can not run wth tv out. is there any way to do this??
Do a search on PPCGeeks.com forums for "How did you get the tv out/video out to work on the touch pro 2." I had to remove/cut the blue wire from the multi-adapter which came w/ my TP2. Hook up a standard 3.5mm jack to composite cable that came with my camcorder. Then I was able to get audio and video working on my 47" TV. No other software was required. The only thing is, you have to swap the yellow cable with the red. Red now provides the video signal. Otherwise, everything else works great.
Credit goes to the original poster in PPCGeeks.com. I would have provided a link to the instructions, but since I'm still new on this site, my posting privileges are still limited. Good luck everyone. I hope this was the answer you were looking for.
What are we all talking about? on my TP2 (SPRINT) I bought a cable for video and audio output that has USB on one end and RCA plugs on the other end. I just plug it into the USB port of the TP2 and hook up the RCA to my TV. It also has a port for plugging in the charger while the video out cable is plugged it...
dahauss said:
What are we all talking about? on my TP2 (SPRINT) I bought a cable for video and audio output that has USB on one end and RCA plugs on the other end. I just plug it into the USB port of the TP2 and hook up the RCA to my TV. It also has a port for plugging in the charger while the video out cable is plugged it...
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This is another option for those who do not wish to purchase the $20 - $25 USB to composite cables for the video outputs. Most of us received the USB multi-port device with our TP2. But by just cutting the blue wire from that device, you can have video output with a standard 3.5mm to composite cable (Red, white, yellow). Some of us may have this cable lying around the house. It usually comes with camcorders. If not, many places sell these standard cables for about $2 to $5. It's just information for those who wish to spend as little money as possible. That's all. Good luck.
All the video cables I find have the regular mini usb data cable port and not the different HTC mini usb port. Are there video cables with the HTC usb port?
To clarify, the part that plugs into the phone is the HTC plug, but the plug for the charger midway down the cable is the plug I'm referring to. Where can I find one with the HTC usb plug instead of the mini usb?
Mossesman said:
This is another option for those who do not wish to purchase the $20 - $25 USB to composite cables for the video outputs. Most of us received the USB multi-port device with our TP2. But by just cutting the blue wire from that device, you can have video output with a standard 3.5mm to composite cable (Red, white, yellow). Some of us may have this cable lying around the house. It usually comes with camcorders. If not, many places sell these standard cables for about $2 to $5. It's just information for those who wish to spend as little money as possible. That's all. Good luck.
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I cannot find a USB to composite cable anywhere on the net. I don't think that it would even work with the TP2 video out capabilities.
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ok quick question. i know the evo can output in hd via the micro hdmi cable, but researching it appears its limited to just a few forms of media (vids, pics, ect.)
my question for anyone who has a evo is: is there an option to output via the usb like the incredible? i have the cable already from my at&t fuse which suported tv out though usb.
i know this way would not be high def but at least i can see everything thats on my cell phone creen which would be handy in some situations.
if this is not available by defult is it possible the phone suports it nativly (as it is so similar to the incredible) and just a matter of installing an app/program from the incredible to the evo? (sorry if its a silly question but coming from windows mobile and the fuse it was just that easy installing the fm radio app)
thanks in advance!
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ok quick question. i know the evo can output in hd via the micro hdmi cable, but researching it appears its limited to just a few forms of media (vids, pics, ect.)
my question for anyone who has a evo is: is there an option to output via the usb like the incredible? i have the cable already from my at&t fuse which suported tv out though usb.
i know this way would not be high def but at least i can see everything thats on my cell phone creen which would be handy in some situations.
if this is not available by defult is it possible the phone suports it nativly (as it is so similar to the incredible) and just a matter of installing an app/program from the incredible to the evo? (sorry if its a silly question but coming from windows mobile and the fuse it was just that easy installing the fm radio app)
thanks in advance!
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your cable won't work as the evo is micro usb. Not sure if the incredible cable would work though.
There is an app for winmo called mymobiler that allowed you to do what you are asking.
I'm gonna google to see if there is anything android wise that will do the same thing.
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your cable won't work as the evo is micro usb. Not sure if the incredible cable would work though.
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sorry just assumed it was mini usb but at any rate ill just need a mini to micro adapter if its cheaper.
either way can the evo do vid out via usb like the incredible?
streets1313 said:
sorry just assumed it was mini usb but at any rate ill just need a mini to micro adapter if its cheaper.
either way can the evo do vid out via usb like the incredible?
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There's no way that headphone adapter will work with your EVO. The Touch Pro, Touch Pro 2, Diamonds, Fuzes, and anything in between do not have MiniUSB ports on the bottom. They are MiniUSB compatible, but they are very very proprietary. Look on the bottom of your Fuze or look at the adapter and you'll see something that is totally screwed up. The reason sound/video work coming out of that port is because it's HTC's ExtUSB port. It has (I think) 9 extra pins for sound/video. Soooo... you could try the Incredible's video cable, but you're SOL when it comes to the adapter for your Fuze.
Hope that clears it up a little.
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There's no way that headphone adapter will work with your EVO. The Touch Pro, Touch Pro 2, Diamonds, Fuzes, and anything in between do not have MiniUSB ports on the bottom. They are MiniUSB compatible, but they are very very proprietary. Look on the bottom of your Fuze or look at the adapter and you'll see something that is totally screwed up. The reason sound/video work coming out of that port is because it's HTC's ExtUSB port. It has (I think) 9 extra pins for sound/video. Soooo... you could try the Incredible's video cable, but you're SOL when it comes to the adapter for your Fuze.
Hope that clears it up a little.
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nope dosent. you see the fuze my have a proprietary port on the bottom of the device but you CAN plug in a mini usb plug (male) into it you can NOT plug your htc headphones (male plug) into a normal usb input (female port.)
i know i plug standard mini usb adapters in all the time for chrarging my fuze off of my laptop when no car charger or wall outlet is available.
i also know the tv out cable i have now is an off brand genaric usb to rca and it works just fine noextra pins in the mini usb jack.
i also know i have the mini usb to micro usb adapter for it.
I've just watched this video...
http://youtube/fCBFdNMhCCw
If you look at the charging cable for it, it has a 3.5mm headphone jack (so that it can be plugged into the aux in on a stereo)
Is there any way to buy just this cable so we can have audio over usb? Or even a way to hack one together DIY style?
Thanks.
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I've just watched this video...
http://youtube/fCBFdNMhCCw
If you look at the charging cable for it, it has a 3.5mm headphone jack (so that it can be plugged into the aux in on a stereo)
Is there any way to buy just this cable so we can have audio over usb? Or even a way to hack one together DIY style?
Thanks.
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Have you tried plugging usb in from the charging cable to see if you can put into mass storage mode and read files like a thumb drive? I would check that first.
That would probably work but I just have never seen a cable with the 3.5mm jack built in. I don't have my atrix yet, just doing some research into different things.
Should have it by late next week
The-Milkybar-Kid said:
That would probably work but I just have never seen a cable with the 3.5mm jack built in. I don't have my atrix yet, just doing some research into different things.
Should have it by late next week
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Yeah, just so there's one cable coming down for charging and audio aux. Unfortunately, I don't see a way for a stereo or processor to read the phone properly until Harman's Google Open Protocol project gets into the market.
I have the dock/cable
One cable goes into the dock which the usb on the phone plugs into.
The HP jack comes out of the other end to connect to the AUX input in the car.
There are two labels on the cable, one says not to plug directly into the phone on the mini usb end and the other says not to plug into a PC (both in pictures)
I have the car dock and the usb cable supplied with the 3.5 mm does not work as a sync cable.
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It's a dock dependent cable. Great question and perhaps abthird party will step up and manufacture a micro USB charging/ audio combo cable that can be used without seperate dock. Alternatively, contact your local rocket scientist. Lol! Actually, the multimedia dock does exactly the same thing, presenting an audio out jack.
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But in the multimedia dock, I would assume that audio is coming through HDMI. This dock is much different than laptop dock and multimedia dock just because it conencts with phone only over USB but still gives an audio plug at the other end.
Also, I would assume that audio streaming is built into the cable and not in the dock because cable connecting to the dock is just a USB connector.
Now if audio is flowing through USB cable, the only question is if it can be played without using accompanied 3.5 mm audio jack?
To get to bottom of this question, it would require some USB debugging expertise which I dont have. Can anyone check with devs in forum?
There is no way audio is coming through HDMI because there is no HDMI port.
The car dock does something with the atrix where the atrix turns the USB port into analogue audio out/power. It's pretty much replacing data with audio out.
It specifically says on the cable to not plug into a computer, because the wires do not go where they are normally supposed to go (since it splits)
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There is no way audio is coming through HDMI because there is no HDMI port.
The car dock does something with the atrix where the atrix turns the USB port into analogue audio out/power. It's pretty much replacing data with audio out.
It specifically says on the cable to not plug into a computer, because the wires do not go where they are normally supposed to go (since it splits)
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I have no reason to believe that the multimedia dock (not to be confused with the HD dock) and the car dock are any different in how the micro USB connector interacts with the phone. One thing that we do know is that the micro USB connector on the car dock is expecting a special cable. It literally states not to connect the car dock wire directly to the phone. Anyway, the bottom line is why does it matter, the key is that Moto engineered a product that will charge and output audio using a single connector. The car dock wire has the 3.5 mm audio out. The multimedia dock has the 3.5 mm audio out on the back... All appears to be the same to me. One thing worth noting is that the multimedia dock will not interface with a PC. I read a post that described the connection type, but can't remember what it was.
Im not sure how the he dock works, but the webtop hack has sound. If the he dock is just webtop/hd sharing, then yes, its hdmi. Charging via the usb port. But I don't own those docks, only the car dock, so im not sure.
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Mgamerz said:
Im not sure how the he dock works, but the webtop hack has sound. If the he dock is just webtop/hd sharing, then yes, its hdmi. Charging via the usb port. But I don't own those docks, only the car dock, so im not sure.
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The HDMI port is for video with audio only and used for the HD dock, lap dock and webtop hack. The micro USB port is used by the HD dock and lapdock to provide USB hub like functionality to the dock as well as a mechanism for charging the phone. This USB hub like functionality is the basis for the lapdock keyboard/track pad and HD dock wired USB keyboard and mouse. A Bluetooth keyboard/mouse can be substituted I believe, connecting via the phone's built in Bluetooth. The multimedia dock and car dock do not provide computer USB type connection capabilities, and NO video capabilites, as the HDMI connection is abscent. Instead they will charge the phone AND provide connectivity for analog audio out and that is it. The webtop hack is just a way of activating HDMIfeatures that are normally only triggered in the HD dock or lapdock.
Yes... I knew all of that... just too lazy to type that...
so... that doesn't really lead us anywhere?
I don't think you can use the vehicle dock cable with the phone directly unless someone reverse engineers the car dock.
Mgamerz said:
Yes... I knew all of that... just too lazy to type that...
so... that doesn't really lead us anywhere?
I don't think you can use the vehicle dock cable with the phone directly unless someone reverse engineers the car dock.
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Yeah, I guesses you probably did, but then a noob comes along and decides 1+1=8.
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Hi, im looking to buy a samsung mhl adapter however my tv only has rca connect, if i buy a hdmi to rca cable will the video still display on my tv.. i.e hdmi goes into mhl adapter and rca goes into tv... Thankyou
No, it wont work..if its just a simple adapter. Via HDMI or DVI... you get a digital signal. RCA or VGA...ect. you get a analog signal. It's not compatible to each other, except you connect a hdmi/rca converter between the two cables. Simple adapter from china just won't work..
You need a converter -- HDMI is a digital signal, whereas composite video (the single yellow RCA cable) or component video (red/green/blue RCA cables) are analog.
Something like this one from Monoprice will do the trick. eBay and Amazon also carry devices like this, in the same price range.
Thanks alot guys i will be buying a converter...
Hopefully you're aware that the video quality from composite will be quite poor.
Presumably if your TV doesn't have HDMI or VGA connectors then it's probably still a CRT screen?
I bought these on ebay. The HDMI is short but worked but when I connect both cables to lapdock, the USB is not being recognized so the keyboard/mouse is not working. I want this just to act as an extension so I can use full lapdock abilities with cables. Any idea what's going on (cable charges on plug but does not charge on lapdock)? Maybe someone has better usb cables.
fixed the link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/29059482363...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_3046wt_1508
http://www.ebay.com/itm/36042990934...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_2333wt_1010
links appear to be broken...
From your title I've been looking for these (or similar) cables for a long time and have been unsuccessful. However I have yet to try them.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/29059482363...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_3046wt_1508
http://www.ebay.com/itm/36042990934...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_2333wt_1010
i don't think it will work either way, tried a few things like this with no avail.
why wouldn't they? Cheap build quality that doesn't include the data wires? Hell I'll be willing to splice two cables together to get our desired effect, the only problem is that cords with a female micro usb are incredibly hard to come by
So that is what you think it is? No data on the usb cables.
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So that is what you think it is? No data on the usb cables.
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the only reason that is my suspicion is because there are many "charging" products out there that don't really need data. Why there would be a need for such a small charging extension cable is beyond me, but it's the only solution I can think of, but I have no way of confirming or denying it either. The ebay descriptions seem to imply that the data wires are there, but we all know how reliable ebay can be...
Another idea I had was that it might be sensing the resistance in the cable, since, if I remember correctly, that was how some think/though the car dock puts the atrix into car mode without a magnet as is/was commonly used. Again these are just ideas.
Or the cable is just so poorly made that it's defective...I honestly have no clue
Has anyone got full lapdock capabilities using extension cables? I can only get the screen working and not the mouse and keyboard.
The HDMI extender was the hard one to find. There are other micro USB extenders out there, theoretically with all wires connected....
http://www.usbfirewire.com/uextendmicrob.html
Kind of makes me wish i hadn't hacked up my lapdock to work with the Otterbox
Where did you get your HDMI extender? I got mine from All4Cellular but it's quite short. Will have to get another HDMI one if the usb cable you recommended works.
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Where did you get your HDMI extender? I got mine from All4Cellular but it's quite short. Will have to get another HDMI one if the usb cable you recommended works.
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If you're asking me, i didn't. I was referring to the ebay link in the third post.
grevedan said:
The HDMI extender was the hard one to find. There are other micro USB extenders out there, theoretically with all wires connected....
http://www.usbfirewire.com/uextendmicrob.html
Kind of makes me wish i hadn't hacked up my webtop to work with the Otterbox
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before I read that post, I was looking around the forums and the web yesterday well into the night. here are some of the things I've found that might be relevant to everyone (and it might possibly be cheaper, though more diy).
Micro USB stuff:
I have no idea why this exists http://www.dealextreme.com/p/micro-...r-cable-for-blackberry-9900-black-30cm-107901
I have no idea why this only has 4 pins http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9614
http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10031
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Where did you get your HDMI extender? I got mine from All4Cellular but it's quite short. Will have to get another HDMI one if the usb cable you recommended works.
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Here's what I am thinking about doing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/140626354628#ht_2821wt_1177 or http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-HDMI-...ultDomain_0&hash=item415eac6dc0#ht_2821wt_980
http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-Female-M...YPB4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1329854686&sr=8-2
then the hdmi cable that came with our phone:
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Stan...QTA8/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1329854856&sr=8-8
The HDMI certainly looks like it may work but the reason I didn't buy that product from ebay a few weeks ago was because it was $50. Now miraculously, it's only $6. Maybe I'll get that if the USB cable I just bought that was suggested works a few posts back.
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why wouldn't they? Cheap build quality that doesn't include the data wires? Hell I'll be willing to splice two cables together to get our desired effect, the only problem is that cords with a female micro usb are incredibly hard to come by
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This micro usb extension cord explicitly states that all 5 wires are connected (compatible with droid bionic for the purpose of docking with a case on the phone):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-E...395?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item335d13272b
I bought the HDMI extension cable and the USB cable above. I have a lapdock so I'll post if it works.
everything asked/answered in here is already covered in the original thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1376679
robrj said:
This micro usb extension cord explicitly states that all 5 wires are connected (compatible with droid bionic for the purpose of docking with a case on the phone):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-E...395?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item335d13272b
I bought the HDMI extension cable and the USB cable above. I have a lapdock so I'll post if it works.
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The HDMI cable seems to work. On the lapdock, with just the HDMI cable hooked up, it functions like it was it's an entertainment center.
The USB cord will need to be modified a little bit. I can't get it to seat right on the USB jack of the dock. I'll need to shave it down a bit as it doesn't sit down snugly.
robrj said:
The HDMI cable seems to work. On the lapdock, with just the HDMI cable hooked up, it functions like it was it's an entertainment center.
The USB cord will need to be modified a little bit. I can't get it to seat right on the USB jack of the dock. I'll need to shave it down a bit as it doesn't sit down snugly.
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I ordered the USB cable and experience this same problem, though I am waiting for my hdmi parts to come in (by April 6th I should have all my parts...). The cable itself works flawlessly as a micro usb extension cable when connecting it to the computer.
again as mentioned in the other thread, you want to be careful with the 5v coming out that micro hdmi port. for connecting back to your phone would be no issue, as the phone charges using this voltage, but hooking the lapdocks micro usb up to a host device probably wont appreciate the 5v coming back up the cable, where normally the usb device would be pulling power from said host, not providing it.
one suggestion is to just clip the red wire inside your micro usb cable/adapter.
btw the adapters i use do fit snugly side by side, without modification.
I've been following this thread for a little while now, and I wanted to share something I found.
I was looking at the Motorola Travel Webtop adapter. And I was curious to see whether it could be tweaked to suite our needs. I naively thought/hoped that I could flip the connectors in the device to make a small adapter to connect the Atrix to newer Lapdocks. Unfortunately as you can see in the pictures below (sorry not enough posts to link to the pictures) the two connectors are connected via a PCB not wires or a ribbon cable. Although I still have high hopes that I can de-solder the HDMI and USB connectors, and use a small length of flat ribbon cable to connect them and then re-positions the connectors in the case, to build a micro adapter to use the Atrix on the newer Lapdocks. Should this fail this will at least prevent others from making the same mistake, and solve the mystery of what's really inside the Webtop Travel adapter.
Do any one know if this Micro HDMI Cable would work for Lapdock.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Feet-HDMI...s_Adapters&hash=item416612cecb#ht_1149wt_1187
Description says for Asus tf201 MEMO ME171.
I believe all Cables are standard. Can this used to Atrix 4g with Lapdock?
I have otterbox case for Atrix and don't want to Remove cover everytime to plug in Lapdock.
OK, I am about to make the switch from iPhone to SGS3 as soon as they become available in the US.
My main concern right now is getting the audio to play through my current truck stereo deck (JVC KD-DV6200). Right now, I am using the Apple AV adapter that goes from the dock connector to composite (Red/white/yellow) and USB. This way, the phone charges while playing my tunes.
What are my options for keeping this same functionality. I want to be able to go from the microUSB to the composite (red/white) ports of the deck and also be able to charge the phone at the same time.
I am wanting to stay away from using the headphone jack as this usually results in some sort of hissing or humming interference.
I appreciate any info you can give. I'm simply trying to compile info so I can have things together when I finally jump ship.
the_buzz_man
You can get HDMI, VGA and DVI MHL adapters but not composite, and the S3 uses a new type of MHL cable so for now i think you can only find HDMI.
Other option would be to build your own cable, for more information check following links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1395173&page=2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820275
Is it because this is such a new device that it is hard to find such a cable?
I have been very excited about dumping my iDevice and going Google but I must admit that this worries me somewhat. To me, a cable like this should be a basic accessory and should be readily available. Maybe I just got spoiled to that Apple AV cable.
I'm not trying to start a rant or anything, nor am I trying to dog android or apple. I'm just hoping that I missed something and that it will show up.
I'm still excited and anxious about trimming that apple tree.
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Not to point out the obvious... but a single cable will not accomplish that. The micro USB is a digital port, not an analog port like the RCA jack inputs are on your stereo. So in order to convert the audio from the usb on the phone, it will need to go through a converter box to convert the signal.
You're pretty much better off just doing the headphone jack even though you dont want to. You could upgrade your stereo to one that does bluetooth streaming for cheaper than it would cost to get a converter.
Something like this *might* work... but I cannot guarantee it
http://www.amazon.com/Audio-REC2PC-Stereo-RCA-Cable/dp/B003R7KSYG
You would just need a standard USB to Micro USB adapter and hope it works.
coreyzw said:
Not to point out the obvious... but a single cable will not accomplish that. The micro USB is a digital port, not an analog port like the RCA jack inputs are on your stereo. So in order to convert the audio from the usb on the phone, it will need to go through a converter box to convert the signal.
You're pretty much better off just doing the headphone jack even though you dont want to. You could upgrade your stereo to one that does bluetooth streaming for cheaper than it would cost to get a converter.
Something like this *might* work... but I cannot guarantee it
http://www.amazon.com/Audio-REC2PC-Stereo-RCA-Cable/dp/B003R7KSYG
You would just need a standard USB to Micro USB adapter and hope it works.
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Uh, apparently, it will. Granted, I don't know if it works w/ the GS3 (who knows what they flipped given the whole MHL adapter fiasco) but my guess is this is all generic android. Looking at the links posted above, it is possible to make a cable that will put the phone into home/car dock mode using resistors where the audio is then output via usb. I guess the sound isn't amplified so it sounds crummy w/o an amplifier, but if it's going out to a car preamp, it should be fine. When you think about it, this is how the docks work, sans the actual dock. I'm going to try to make this cable later as it doesn't look too hard.
I'm kinda sick of having to plug in two cables (w/ the GS3, it's one on top and one on the bottom which would be very awkward) and was debating whether to pursue a bluetooth solution, but this would work nicely.
This may not be the most attractive solution, but you can simply charge the phone with a car lighter plug and output the music through the headphone jack to the RCA cables. That type of cable certainly exists.
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Uh, apparently, it will. Granted, I don't know if it works w/ the GS3 (who knows what they flipped given the whole MHL adapter fiasco) but my guess is this is all generic android. Looking at the links posted above, it is possible to make a cable that will put the phone into home/car dock mode using resistors where the audio is then output via usb. I guess the sound isn't amplified so it sounds crummy w/o an amplifier, but if it's going out to a car preamp, it should be fine. When you think about it, this is how the docks work, sans the actual dock. I'm going to try to make this cable later as it doesn't look too hard.
I'm kinda sick of having to plug in two cables (w/ the GS3, it's one on top and one on the bottom which would be very awkward) and was debating whether to pursue a bluetooth solution, but this would work nicely.
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**** it... good luck
wouldn't the desktop dock work? Just mount that or put that somewhere in your truck, get a 3.5mm to rca cable, use cigarette lighter charger, then plug both the charger and 3.5mm into the back of the dock and then all you have to do is set your phone on that every time and you're good to go...
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wouldn't the desktop dock work? Just mount that or put that somewhere in your truck, get a 3.5mm to rca cable, use cigarette lighter charger, then plug both the charger and 3.5mm into the back of the dock and then all you have to do is set your phone on that every time and you're good to go...
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This is what I suggested above but with the dock is a much cleaner solution.
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wouldn't the desktop dock work? Just mount that or put that somewhere in your truck, get a 3.5mm to rca cable, use cigarette lighter charger, then plug both the charger and 3.5mm into the back of the dock and then all you have to do is set your phone on that every time and you're good to go...
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That is one strong possibility. The only problem I foresee is how the dock will work with the phone if it is in a case. I have always kept my phones in an Otterbox defender case, and you know how hard it is to find a dock that will hold this much less lock into a usb port too. I may have to look into getting a different case that can come off easy.
Then again, maybe I will have to check into making my own cable. Most of the cable will be tucked into the dash somewhere so the aesthetics are not that important.
Will have to start doing some searching on pinouts and designs soon.
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That is one strong possibility. The only problem I foresee is how the dock will work with the phone if it is in a case. I have always kept my phones in an Otterbox defender case, and you know how hard it is to find a dock that will hold this much less lock into a usb port too. I may have to look into getting a different case that can come off easy.
Then again, maybe I will have to check into making my own cable. Most of the cable will be tucked into the dash somewhere so the aesthetics are not that important.
Will have to start doing some searching on pinouts and designs soon.
the_buzz_man
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There's a diagram in the post above. Essentially, the 365k resister on the ID pin launches it into dock mode, one is ground, one is to charge, and the other are left and right out. It doesn't look at all complicated. I'm going to make one later to see if it will work with my vibrant. Once I get my S3, hopefully it will still work. Then there's just the matter of making it look non-ghetto. You'd want to avoid electrical tape because the adhesive will probably melt in the car.
From reading those posts, it doesn't seem like it would be difficult at all to make this cable/adapter. Now, with the change they made to the MHL to HDMI adapter, I wonder if it changes the pinouts and the needed resistors for the S3.
I will be patiently awaiting some input/feedback from S3 owners that attempt this.
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That is one strong possibility. The only problem I foresee is how the dock will work with the phone if it is in a case. I have always kept my phones in an Otterbox defender case, and you know how hard it is to find a dock that will hold this much less lock into a usb port too. I may have to look into getting a different case that can come off easy.
Then again, maybe I will have to check into making my own cable. Most of the cable will be tucked into the dash somewhere so the aesthetics are not that important.
Will have to start doing some searching on pinouts and designs soon.
the_buzz_man
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You could always get a microusb extension but then that dock would have to be hidden somewhere or something.
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1) The Samsung EPL-3FHU adapter for Galaxy S3. Has 11-pin MHL input from phone, 5-pin micro-USB input from charger, and HDMI output toward display.
2) Standard micro-USB to USB cable from #1 to #3 (charger).
3) Griffin dual USB car charger.
4) Standard HDMI cable.
5) ViewHD Universal HDMI to Composite / AV Video Converter with HDMI input, optional (unnecessary) mini-USB power input, and composite A/V output to car display inputs.
6) Standard composite A/V cable.
7) The composite A/V inputs in my armrest. All gear above (#1-6) will be in my armrest, including #1, the MHL adapter.
8) Location of my phone - it fits perfectly in the ashtray opening when the ashtray door is open. I'll run a cable under the center console and out through the ashtray opening so that I can plug it in to my phone. The cable I need for this is number 10.
9) The phone, a Samsung Galaxy S III with its 11-pin MHL/micro-USB port.
10) This is the piece I don't have, can't find, and don't think I can make or re-create. I need it to be 11-pin micro-USB female on one end to plug into #1 above, and 11-pin micro-USB male on the other to plug into the phone. I think I need it to support the 11-pin Samsung micro-USB MHL pinouts (shown in macro/detail above) in order to pass both the audio/video and USB charging over the same cable. I might have to try the 5-pin flavors of MHL adapter (plus 5-to-11-pin adapter) and standard micro-USB cable to see if it works.
Any thoughts?
I would just splice into the mhl 11 pin cable and extend it as needed.
I've got a galaxy s3 but no mhl cable yet. Waiting for the price to drop a little...
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futaris said:
I would just splice into the mhl 11 pin cable and extend it as needed.
I've got a galaxy s3 but no mhl cable yet. Waiting for the price to drop a little...
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Hi futaris - thanks for the reply. The problem I have with that is two-fold. One, the actual 11-pin micro-USB section of the MHL adapter is very short, and doesn't leave a lot of room to actually snip wires, pull back insulation, and solder on an extension (to all 11 wires). Also, it's a one-shot deal with that option. If something goes wrong I'm out of $40 USD. That's why I was mainly avoiding using that method. If I use the 11-pin to 5-pin adapter tip, which functionality would I lose (charging, video, audio)? I don't need USB OTG in the car. That may be a better bet here.
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Hi futaris - thanks for the reply. The problem I have with that is two-fold. One, the actual 11-pin micro-USB section of the MHL adapter is very short, and doesn't leave a lot of room to actually snip wires, pull back insulation, and solder on an extension (to all 11 wires). Also, it's a one-shot deal with that option. If something goes wrong I'm out of $40 USD. That's why I was mainly avoiding using that method. If I use the 11-pin to 5-pin adapter tip, which functionality would I lose (charging, video, audio)? I don't need USB OTG in the car. That may be a better bet here.
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The 5 pin adapter doesn't cost you any HDMI functionality or charging. It only costs you USB OTG that I know of.
thacounty said:
The 5 pin adapter doesn't cost you any HDMI functionality or charging. It only costs you USB OTG that I know of.
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Ok, so I tried the older 5-pin MHL adapter with the 11-pin to 5-pin adapter tip and it works. However, when I tried to use a standard micro-USB female to male extension cable (www .amazon.com/Micro-B-Female-Extension-Manhattan-307420/dp/B007TLEDTW), it wouldn't pass any video or audio. Are the pinouts from the 11-to-5-pin tip different than a standard micro-USB cable? Can anyone think of another way to allow me to place the MHL adapter further away (maybe 5ft) from the phone itself? Has anyone tried one of these along with the 11-to-5-pin adapter for the S3? www .amazon.com/gp/product/B006V7F380
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Ok, so I tried the older 5-pin MHL adapter with the 11-pin to 5-pin adapter tip and it works. However, when I tried to use a standard micro-USB female to male extension cable (www .amazon.com/Micro-B-Female-Extension-Manhattan-307420/dp/B007TLEDTW), it wouldn't pass any video or audio. Are the pinouts from the 11-to-5-pin tip different than a standard micro-USB cable? Can anyone think of another way to allow me to place the MHL adapter further away (maybe 5ft) from the phone itself? Has anyone tried one of these along with the 11-to-5-pin adapter for the S3? www .amazon.com/gp/product/B006V7F380
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I have heard that you can't extend USB very far, but I have no data to back that up. How about a longer HDMI cable instead?