Proximity sensor question. - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Is it possible to utilize the proximity sensor so when you put the phone inside a case, or in your pocket, the screen would turn off?
I'm used to my blackberry that has a magnet that knows when its in the holster, and shuts off.
Sometimes when in my pocket the phone may turn on, and I would think if the proximity sensor is used, it would stay off because its in your pocket...

Nobody knows?

Hi, just check http://pocketshield.netserver01.com/

Not sure if HTCs leave the proximity sensor polling active while phone is off, maybe the reason is battery drain.
Blackberry magnetics work just the way the stylus work for the Diamond and later HTC models. Magnetism is a healthier approach for this because is not processor dependant. Proximity and light sensors do require CPU processing to work (at least on current HTCs hardware design)

Simple. I just press the power button to turn it off before sliding it into the case.

From my understanding, the iPhone proximity sensor activates if the phone is locked and turns on during message notification. This way the screen shuts off if it's in a case or pocket as not to drain battery life. I with WinMo did that or at least S2U2 would do that.
I have another little problem. When my Tilt 2 is paired with a Bluetooth headset and I decide to take the call at the handset the proximity sensor is not activated.
Anyone else notice this?

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[Q] Proximity sensor calibration

I am having an issue with my proximity sensor and believe it may be some sort of calibration issue. It works (ie when I am in calls, if I cover it with my finger, it shuts off the screen) but the sensitivity has become very poor. I've had the phone since the day it was released and the proximity sensor had no trouble reflecting off my head and keeping the screen off during calls. Over the last few months I've noticed I started hitting buttons with my ear during calls because the screen is not shutting down. It seems like the sensitivity has decreased by some fixed amount in the last few months. It is very annoying because I keep accidentally hanging up on people or hitting the hold call button while I am talking.
The only two things I thought it could be would be either the sensor needs to be calibrated or possibly the sensor is going bad. I'm running the cyanogen 7 nightlies but have also tried reverting to some of the more stable RCs and still had the issue. I will try going back to a t-mobile rom tonight to see if that helps.
Has anyone else experienced this? Or does anyone know how to re-calibrate the sensor?
z test from market calibrates (im pretty sure)
smokeuout said:
z test from market calibrates (im pretty sure)
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I gave it a shot, but I didn't see anything for calibrating the proxy sensor in that app.
I did however do a test using the camera on my transformer and compared the intensity of the proxy sensor LED to that on other phones. It appears as if mine is very dim and barely blinks. I think the infrared LED is burning out or the circuit that supplies it is not putting out the correct power.
Has anyone ever tried replacing a bad proxy LED before?
try sucking over the surface with a vaccum...i know it sounds crazy but its fixed alot of proxy sensors
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try sucking over the surface with a vaccum...i know it sounds crazy but its fixed alot of proxy sensors
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That, or use one of those compressed-air cans for cleaning stuff and blow it into the speaker hole towards the proximity sensor (to the left of the speaker hole.) The proximity sensor seems very sensitive to dust particles.
You haven't installed or changed screen protectors recently, by any chance? Those have been known to mess up the sensor. Also, make sure the protector or glass is nice and clean in the area of the sensor.
Thanks for all the great advice! I'm going to give the vacuum and air can a shot.
Oh and to answer redpoint, I haven't installed any screen protectors on this phone ever, but thanks for the advice.
My GF's Vision behaves the same...
Still looking for a calibration tool, i found only one, but that don't work.
Also tried to "clean" the sensor
I think we have to return it to htc...
Same problem with my DZ since I put Virtuous G Lite on it. Did you guys find a solution for your proximity sensor ?
Cleaning or software ?
cri-cri16 said:
Same problem with my DZ since I put Virtuous G Lite on it. Did you guys find a solution for your proximity sensor ?
Cleaning or software ?
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I am having the same problem. I keep hitting the hold button. Any fixes?

[Q] Phone into pocket = standby?

A friend of mine has a Motorola Razr which automatically switches to standby (screen off) when it's put into his pocket.
Does anyone know if there's a way for us HOX users to accomplish this?
WiplashNL said:
A friend of mine has a Motorola Razr which automatically switches to standby (screen off) when it's put into his pocket.
Does anyone know if there's a way for us HOX users to accomplish this?
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Man, I feel like an advertisement recently, but I feel like this would be something not too hard to accomplish with Tasker. If light levels drop to near nothing and the proximity sensor detects a very short distance, like the phone is in your pocket, it turns the screen off. I'd also put in an if for disabling this function when you're on a call, just because it already does it and I don't know if it'd interfere. You could test it though.
Battery use might be a concern if it polls the sensors too much. Would have to look into it.
Edit: I set up a simple test for this on my Infuse, and I got it to work, but it doesn't work instantaneously. The sensors are only polled every x number of seconds, but I don't know what that number is exactly. I suspect it shouldn't take more battery than it would if you had auto brightness on, and with auto brightness on, it's probably already updating the value, if it isn't always anyway (I want to say it does regardless), so I guess battery shouldn't be a concern. I guess it turning off with a couple of seconds of delay is still better than it staying on for 30+ seconds.

[Q] Proximity Sensor dead. Suggestions to simulate its working?

Alright. My proximity sensor has been dead for a while now. (And yes, it indeed is dead. I've used Proximity Sensor Recallibrator and different apps for testing it.)
It's not a very big issue to use the phone without a working Proximity Sensor. But it gets annoying while attending calls. With a functional sensor, the phone locks itself when you place the phone next to your ear. However, as expected mine doesn't. I've made it a habit to manually lock the screen by pressing the power button before making a call or after receiving a call. However, there are times when I forget in the rush and it leads to very annoying things, the notification drawer slides down and apparently 'my ear' presses and activates wifi, bluetooth and almost everything on the power widget in the notification drawer.
Its really annoying.
I know there's no real way of actually simulating a proximity sensor. So I just need suggestions from you guys as to how to tackle this problem. Any suggestions with creative ideas or workarounds would be welcome.
When i had an htc hd2 i had the same proble and i was using one out of two apps the problem is i can't fully remember the names, one was ditching the proximity sensor and using the light sensor for proximity and the other one was suposed to make the proximity sensor much snappier using partial info from light sensor. Search the play store for "proximity".
P.S. did you dismantle the phone to see if you have dust behind the speaker gril? I had the same problem with my handset , i could have swore that my sensor was dead but after i cleaned it it worked. Hoped i helped
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bondocel said:
When i had an htc hd2 i had the same proble and i was using one out of two apps the problem is i can't fully remember the names, one was ditching the proximity sensor and using the light sensor for proximity and the other one was suposed to make the proximity sensor much snappier using partial info from light sensor. Search the play store for "proximity".
P.S. did you dismantle the phone to see if you have dust behind the speaker gril? I had the same problem with my handset , i could have swore that my sensor was dead but after i cleaned it it worked. Hoped i helped
Sent from my Desire HD using xda app-developers app
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Light sensor data for proximity checks. Its an innovative idea... although wouldn't that make my phone lock itself when the lights are turned off?
Also, the dust thing might be a problem, I'll give it a try to see if it helps. Thanks.
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Light sensor data for proximity checks. Its an innovative idea... although wouldn't that make my phone lock itself when the lights are turned off?
Also, the dust thing might be a problem, I'll give it a try to see if it helps. Thanks.
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1 No that app activates only in call, it bypasses the the sensor data from proximity to light while in call then reverts back after call ends the only downside is that it is not as snappy but it is better than nothing
2 Dismantle your back casing and you will find the motherload of dust in speaker grill, if you didn't check that out first then i'm 99% sure this is your problem: filth in speaker grill and on proxy and light sensors you will find a carpet of dust
Caution!!!!
-watch a dismantling video before you start
-if you want to use compressed air to clean the speaker funnel don't exceed 2 bar max and blow at a distance of 15-25 cm not closer
For further support i will help you over forum but check google or xda for a tutorial
bondocel said:
1 No that app activates only in call, it bypasses the the sensor data from proximity to light while in call then reverts back after call ends the only downside is that it is not as snappy but it is better than nothing
2 Dismantle your back casing and you will find the motherload of dust in speaker grill, if you didn't check that out first then i'm 99% sure this is your problem: filth in speaker grill and on proxy and light sensors you will find a carpet of dust
Caution!!!!
-watch a dismantling video before you start
-if you want to use compressed air to clean the speaker funnel don't exceed 2 bar max and blow at a distance of 15-25 cm not closer
For further support i will help you over forum but check google or xda for a tutorial
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Can you recall the name of the apps? A bit more help than "proximity" would do.. there are a ton load of crappy apps out there with proximity in their names
And thanks for the suggestion I was indeed watching a dismantling video just now.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=TomReay.proxSensor&feature=search_result
This was the app i initialy used but back then it was't only for htc hero it was only fot htc
But i can't seem to find the second one it was something like :
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hardrock.smartscreenoff&feature=search_result
But i am not 100 % sure this is it
Any progres on dismanteling? i do the cleaning about once in 2 months and it works perfect
bondocel said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=TomReay.proxSensor&feature=search_result
This was the app i initialy used but back then it was't only for htc hero it was only fot htc
But i can't seem to find the second one it was something like :
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hardrock.smartscreenoff&feature=search_result
But i am not 100 % sure this is it
Any progres on dismanteling? i do the cleaning about once in 2 months and it works perfect
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These were the apps that I found. The first one does not work. (I tried it out of desperation even though it stated it was only for HTC Hero ). I read the description of the second one you mentioned and it does not state any such feature about using the light sensor. The closest thing that app would do is to turn the screen off by shaking.
Anyway, you've given me the idea about using the light sensor data only when there is a phone call to lock the screen. I'll try to use Tasker to see if I can make a setting for that scenario. Otherwise I'll just go ahead and make the app.
As for the dismantling, I've seen the video and to get to the grill all I have to do is to remove the gps cover, remove the agency sticker, unscrew 5 screws of the main body cover and remove the cover... right? But unfortunately I don't have the screwdrivers right now, I'll get them first tomorrow and then definitely clean the grill.
if4ct0r said:
These were the apps that I found. The first one does not work. (I tried it out of desperation even though it stated it was only for HTC Hero ). I read the description of the second one you mentioned and it does not state any such feature about using the light sensor. The closest thing that app would do is to turn the screen off by shaking.
Anyway, you've given me the idea about using the light sensor data only when there is a phone call to lock the screen. I'll try to use Tasker to see if I can make a setting for that scenario. Otherwise I'll just go ahead and make the app.
As for the dismantling, I've seen the video and to get to the grill all I have to do is to remove the gps cover, remove the agency sticker, unscrew 5 screws of the main body cover and remove the cover... right? But unfortunately I don't have the screwdrivers right now, I'll get them first tomorrow and then definitely clean the grill.
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If you have the phone for a long time and you never cleaned it , that might be your problem.
Btw didn't you notice that the phone would turn off harder and sometimes sporadickly while in call before it stoped working?
bondocel said:
If you have the phone for a long time and you never cleaned it , that might be your problem.
Btw didn't you notice that the phone would turn off harder and sometimes sporadickly while in call before it stoped working?
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Actually.. I don't recall when it actually stopped working. So no, I have no recollection of such happenings. But I do believe you that it might be a possible cause because of the way I handle the phone, dust is a very real possibility.
Ok my friend i will stay tuned on the topic. i will go to bed now but i will be here tomorow to help and assist with whatever i can.
Good luck m8!
Tell me if you mannaged to fix anything.
First of all try to clean the sensor
I've got a simple one... Call a friend and place your hand over the sensor. If the screens turns off its working lol

How to disable proximity sensor

Ok, here is the problem I am facing.
I recently changed the display to my G6 Play, and everything works fine except proximity sensor. When I try to make calls my screen goes black. I set up the power button to terminate the call but that's a very simple workaround. I can live with that but its very annoying. I checked the rubber shaped like an 8 figure around the light sensor and proximity, it seems properly aligned but I don't have enough experience to say that I am 100% sure. I have no case or screen guard on my phone also. I have tried with all kind of third apps to disable the proximity sensor. No joy. I know for sure since I have used an app for sensor testing that the proximity sensor is draining voltage aprox 0,32 mA so I think it is working. But the value is 0 so it is in a covered state. Now I am thinking since my phone dropped on the floor and cracked almost near the sensor where the impact zone was, that the sensor may be damaged. The current can flow but the hardware inside may be affected due to shock.
So again I guess it would be an elegant solution just to disable it with software. Is is possible and how?
Same problem here
Hello, I have the same problem... Did you managed yo disable the sensor?
Thanks you

Proximity sensor acting weird

My proximity sensor is pulsating not while on call but while screen is off and in good light conditions. When ambience is dimmed, it stops. Why is it doing this, any fix? Using dome glass.
Weird, but maybe somehow the glue and glass are indeed interacting with the sensor under certain conditions, I was wondering if with this new under display sensor wouldnt be this kind of issues, reading about your case, then I will not use any
Any other insight or possible solution?
I need to make a correction to my question. This behaviour happens when AOD is on and light is good. Funny enough I don't see it on call. But screen turns off just fine on call.
Same here. Even with AOD off. Seems to turn on randomly and flicker. When I wave in front of it, then it stops.
If I turn off the AOD, it stops doing this.
I also have this..sometimes it keeps flickering even after I have unlocked the screen. If I put my finger over it then it goes
I had to turn off tap to wake as the phone kept coming on in my pocket despite the phone being faced towards my leg, to me the proximity sensor in the 10+ is just wrong.
I turned off adaptive AOD brightness and it stopped doing this.
Interesting. I don't see this behavior.
With AOC on a slightly than 1% per hrs battery usage seems to be nominal operation.
This circuit uses little current I suspect anyway.
Unless it's using more battery than I stated it doesn't matter.
It wouldn't harm the OLED... cool find.

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