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Hi All.
Being a complete Noob with PDA's and stuff, I have carried out several searches trying to find the answers to a basic question, and wondering if anyone can advise (In Laymans Terms) on the following.
I am a brit living in Holland, and am the recent, very proud, owner of an Orange M650 - Artemis, however back to the beginning of the sentence, I am a brit and have little to no comprehension of Dutch.
Can I install/upgrade/fiddle with the phone to make all the screens into english?
Am I able to install WM6 (Dutch or English)?
The device is as it came out of the box, so pressume that it is operator locked and/or locked in some other way.
All help greatfully received (Sorry for the lame questions but a Noob is what I am)
Sorry all, just read the sticky about Upgrading and something about a CID lock.
I will stick with what I have unless someone really has time to walk (I mean crawl) through it.
go get your phone cid unlocked for £20 and then you can install any rom you want!
you'll also see a thread in this forum about upgrading roms on a cid locked (ie your) device... do this at your own risk though!...
Thanks for that, I will take the easy option and get it CID unlocked.
Will i also need to get it Sim unlocked?
How do I know if my device is CID locked or not ?
I know it's not SIM locked.
I have HTC 3300, english version.
thebishop1978 said:
Thanks for that, I will take the easy option and get it CID unlocked.
Will i also need to get it Sim unlocked?
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Upgrading ROM's is super easy once you get the CID lock. Read through the posts and you will see tons of options for changing. I have been doing this for about 3 weeks now, I am not an expert but I have successfully changed my ROM on my cid unlocked o2 Orbit 5 or 6 times trying different things out. If you need someone to walk you though it, I am sure there are more qualified people, but I would offer my service. I wished to god someone would have offered this to me when I first started figuring this stuff out....
Hi every one, my phone model is HTC Hermes 8525 locked to Att. Now it is in original box with Windows Mobile 5. I want to unlock it first. I have read articles on this BBS and aware that if I want to do future Rom flashing things I might need both SIM and CID unlocked. At same time I found several unlock code provider on Ebay.com. Now the questions come up.
1) Is Unlock code got via Ebay only for SIM unlock, or it is for both?
2) Is there any risk for such kind of unlock code for my phone? What's the worst outcome for using unlocker software downloaded here?
3) If I don't unlock my CID, can I still upgrade my phone with WM6? What specific ROM of WM6 shall I use?
4) Any other suggestion is welcomed, Ad's also.
Thanks a head
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Hi every one, my phone model is HTC Hermes 8525 locked to Att. Now it is in original box with Windows Mobile 5. I want to unlock it first. I have read articles on this BBS and aware that if I want to do future Rom flashing things I might need both SIM and CID unlocked. At same time I found several unlock code provider on Ebay.com. Now the questions come up.
1) Is Unlock code got via Ebay only for SIM unlock, or it is for both?
2) Is there any risk for such kind of unlock code for my phone? What's the worst outcome for using unlocker software downloaded here?
3) If I don't unlock my CID, can I still upgrade my phone with WM6? What specific ROM of WM6 shall I use?
4) Any other suggestion is welcomed, Ad's also.
Thanks a head
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Hi and welcome to xda-developers forum!
1) I think this "unlock code" will provide you an ability to disable/re-enable SIM Lock/Operator Lock, not CID Lock (as it's platform specific and required to flash unofficial ROMs)
2) The worst is device will become brick. But it could occur only if you download and flash wrong ROM.
3) No, if it's unofficial. If HTC provided a WM6 update to Hermes (I don't remember), it could be flashed.
Good luck
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i just got that phone, i found a guy on youtube for the sim unlock, it worked for my phone , now it runs a tmobile sim card ya. not sure what cid a nd all that is, on youtube most people dont give details on how to get things done but there is the one guy for the sim. next i upgraded to wm6 using a google search and deciphering through all the bull****, then i used xda for wm6.1. it all worked and i dont know **** so u should be fine, if you know how to unzip and do things with files and alwas look for exe. extentsion, that ones usually money, im trying to upgrade to 6.5 but im getting errors, first time im having propblems, so let me know anybody, about that. good luck
What phone do you have?
i had previously accidentally posted this in the xperia section but i meant for it to be here but
im getting my tilt 2 tommorow
i ordered it online from amazon contract free ($500)
so i have some questions
1. is it sim unlocked? or will i have to go get an unlock code from att
2. will it automatically add a data plan if i put in my att sim card onto it?
(if so is there a way to bypass this)
3. whats hte diffference between cid unlocking and sim unlocking. is there away to do both in 1 method
No, it isn't SIM unlocked.
No, it will not add a data plan to your AT&T account if you put the SIM in.
SIM unlock allows you to use other SIMs in your device. CID unlocking allows you to flash any signed HTC ROM (For example, you could flash a Vodafone or a TMobile USA ROM on your Tilt2). CID unlocking really isn't necessary for most people since most people use HardSPL, but you can SIM, Security, and CID unlock with this tool here. It costs money for most people, but it's really worth it since it does all three types of unlocks.
Since you are new to the HTC Rhodium, I encourage you to read the wiki article and all stickies posted around the Rhodium forums, as well as the annoucement at the top. Hope that helps
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No, it isn't SIM unlocked.
No, it will not add a data plan to your AT&T account if you put the SIM in.
SIM unlock allows you to use other SIMs in your device. CID unlocking allows you to flash any signed HTC ROM (For example, you could flash a Vodafone or a TMobile USA ROM on your Tilt2). CID unlocking really isn't necessary for most people since most people use HardSPL, but you can SIM, Security, and CID unlock with this tool here. It costs money for most people, but it's really worth it since it does all three types of unlocks.
Since you are new to the HTC Rhodium, I encourage you to read the wiki article and all stickies posted around the Rhodium forums, as well as the annoucement at the top. Hope that helps
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1. ok thankyou so i shud ask att for an unlock code if i want to use it in china?/out of US
2. ohreally? i wasnt sure about this because when i went to att store and asked to buy a contract free tilt2, the guy said that they wud add a 30 dollar data plan to my line so it was really confusing
3. what about all of these roms that people are making on this forums do i need to cid unlock to use them?
oh new question are all these roms on the internet like windowsmobile specific? like will 1 rom work with 6.1 and another work with 6.5 or do they all work together
You could use an unlock code from AT&T, or use the tool I linked to in my post. As I said, it's $15, but it's very much worth it since it SIM unlocks, the money is used for good purposes, and it CID and Security unlocks as well.
While they may try to sell you a data plan when you buy it, they can't add a data plan when you insert your SIM
A CID unlock is not required to use the cooked ROMs on this forum. To use the custom ROMs on this forum, you need HardSPL. CID unlocking only allows you to use signed HTC ROMs, meaning that you can flash a TMobile ROM onto your AT&T Tilt while still running stock bootloader. However, CID unlocking won't let you run the custom ROMs you'll find online, since they aren't signed by HTC.
I'm afraid I don't understand your last question, sorry.
oh i mean do all of these roms work with windows mobile 6.5 and 6.1? or only one and not the other
All ROMs are only Windows Mobile 6.1 or only 6.5. If you flash a 6.5 ROM onto you device, you will be running windows mobile 6.5. Same for 6.1. There is no way for two versions of WM to coexist on the same device (that I know of).
where do i put cab files?
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oh i mean do all of these roms work with windows mobile 6.5 and 6.1? or only one and not the other
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The ROM totally replaces everything (including Windows) on the device.
jopherr said:
where do i put cab files?
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You put them on the device. To install them, you browse to them in File explorer mobile, then tap on them, and they will install.
what about roms?
how do i put them on my phone
i did hte hard spl thing already
jopherr said:
what about roms?
how do i put them on my phone
i did hte hard spl thing already
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Follow the instructions here, and skip over the HardSPL part if you've already HardSPL'd.
Also, since you've finally recieved your device, I encourage you to read the Rhodium Wiki, as well as all the stickies around the forum.
Hello
I just wanted to say HI. I just registered. Been exploring this site for some time now. I have the touch pro 2. I really like it. I have had a lot of phones, mostly iphones and blackberries (I used to sell them). Done a lot of unlocking, but now am getting into serious business
So just wanted to say Hi. Thanks for helping me get an education. I will say this information is very hard to navigate though. You guys are amazingly smart about this stuff.
So far I have the MightyROM. Trying to understand the different types of locks/locking. For the TP2. From Iphones I learned about basebands and firmwares. This TP2 is on a whole new level by comparison though. Very confusing. Trying to skim through the wiki. Information seems hard to come by. I have basic knowledge only pretty much, but it's all diverse (done light java programming, etc...)
Really interested in the Registry edit capabilities. Right now I just have Rescoe. I thought for sure there would be a way to unlock by going that route but doesn't seem to work on anything I have tried. Don't really understand the parameters/keys and don't know how exactly to find out.
I will just keep plugging away I guess. Tried to buy the security unlocker but ran into problems with paypal freezing my account and what not... I really hate paypal...
Thanks though. You guys do great things!
What is Security Unlock?
Ok hello again, I now have a very good question I think:
What is Security Unlocking?
I was reading the wiki and that clarified a lot of things for me as far as CID/ROM unlocking and SIM unlocking but I didn't see anything about security unlocking. I am under the impression that I need to security unlock but I don't know why and I would really like to know.
Last nite I tried to download and install the radio upgrades from Olipro but the phone bricked into bootloader and I had to reflash the mighty ROM to get it back up and running again. As my understanding is that I am currently CID/ROM unlocked but I can't seem to unlock the Radio/GSM without Security unlocking. Can please tell me why? Is this an added mechanism to prevent this that is recent advancement on the carriers part I am guessing but how does it work and why? Thanks so much if you tell me!!!
derekstaroba said:
Ok hello again, I now have a very good question I think:
What is Security Unlocking?
I was reading the wiki and that clarified a lot of things for me as far as CID/ROM unlocking and SIM unlocking but I didn't see anything about security unlocking. I am under the impression that I need to security unlock but I don't know why and I would really like to know.
Last nite I tried to download and install the radio upgrades from Olipro but the phone bricked into bootloader and I had to reflash the mighty ROM to get it back up and running again. As my understanding is that I am currently CID/ROM unlocked but I can't seem to unlock the Radio/GSM without Security unlocking. Can please tell me why? Is this an added mechanism to prevent this that is recent advancement on the carriers part I am guessing but how does it work and why? Thanks so much if you tell me!!!
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what do you mean by trying to unlock the radio? SIM unlock?
security unlock allows flashing non-stock radios. (but you must pay attention if you're flashing a radio that's compatible with your phone model.)
cmonex said:
what do you mean by trying to unlock the radio? SIM unlock?
security unlock allows flashing non-stock radios. (but you must pay attention if you're flashing a radio that's compatible with your phone model.)
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Well I'm not quite sure but I will explain what I am seeing.
When I put a SIM in the network doesn't register but it shows the new phone number in phone settings on the first tab. On the second tab in 'Network' it doesn't detect and keeps saying "searching for network" etc...
My radio says WF. the hhspl works fine and I can flash any ROM. The only ROM I haven't tried is a GSM ROM because in my understanding that bricks the phone (What is the brick? Tricolor? Black screen?). However I haven't been able to flash any Radio's at all. It gets to 100% and then quits with an error and reverts the phone to tricolor screen and the only way to get it out is to Reflash a ROM. I was able to Flash a Sprint ROM with the windows mobile 6.1 version. I have to say that one really sucks lol but it did manage to change the radio version. After I changed the Radio Version to 1.96WF I reflashed back to MightyROM and tried to run the unlocker again, didn't work. Then I tried to reflash another radio. Didn't work and bricked the phone to tricolor/bootloader again.
So am I CID locked Or Security locked? Either way the process should work I thought? None of the programs seem to be doing what they are fully designed to do.
Thnx a bunch!
Something!
I purchased a brand new T-Mobile SIM and IT REGISTERED!
I was able to call the T-Mobile Help line.
There was some trouble with the activation, but I think I got it. I guess I didn't need the security unlock after all???
weird. And the radio version is sprint. In my understanding, a sprint baseband/radio is not supported on T-mobile, yet I have access to the frequencies/bands. For example on an iphone in order to pick up frequencies from T-mobile or any other GSM carrier you have to upgrade the baseband/radio version to one that supports those frequencies. The last iphone I had I had to use an IPAD baseband in order to unlock it. So this is completely different.
THIS MAKES ME VERY VERY CURIOUS!
Yea the security unlocker doesn't work for the U.S. Cell version... at least mine it doesn't. I made some youtube videos and a thread to show that. I figured out another way to unlock though using the HardSPL, Flashing to a Sprint Stock ROM to get that radio, and then flashing again to MightyROM.
What I meant by unlocking the radio is basically I am thinking of the radio in terms of the radio picks up certain signals (like 800mhz, 850mhz, 1900mhz, etc...) but each carrier prevents their radios from picking up all but one of the signal, the one they use, and prevents the rest from communicating with the device (guessing this would be the device modem?) so when I say "unlock Radio" I was meaning unlock those other frequencies and get rid of the programming which blocks them and use my device to full capability.
So now I get to see what this baby can really do thanks
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Well I'm not quite sure but I will explain what I am seeing.
When I put a SIM in the network doesn't register but it shows the new phone number in phone settings on the first tab. On the second tab in 'Network' it doesn't detect and keeps saying "searching for network" etc...
My radio says WF. the hhspl works fine and I can flash any ROM. The only ROM I haven't tried is a GSM ROM because in my understanding that bricks the phone (What is the brick? Tricolor? Black screen?). However I haven't been able to flash any Radio's at all. It gets to 100% and then quits with an error and reverts the phone to tricolor screen and the only way to get it out is to Reflash a ROM. I was able to Flash a Sprint ROM with the windows mobile 6.1 version. I have to say that one really sucks lol but it did manage to change the radio version. After I changed the Radio Version to 1.96WF I reflashed back to MightyROM and tried to run the unlocker again, didn't work. Then I tried to reflash another radio. Didn't work and bricked the phone to tricolor/bootloader again.
So am I CID locked Or Security locked? Either way the process should work I thought? None of the programs seem to be doing what they are fully designed to do.
Thnx a bunch!
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if you only flashed Hard-SPL, then you are still security locked in terms of radio.
Hard-SPL is only designed to unlock the SPL, not the radio. so, it does do what it was designed to do, unlocks your phone for normal ROM flashing.
derekstaroba said:
Yea the security unlocker doesn't work for the U.S. Cell version... at least mine it doesn't. I made some youtube videos and a thread to show that. I figured out another way to unlock though using the HardSPL, Flashing to a Sprint Stock ROM to get that radio, and then flashing again to MightyROM.
What I meant by unlocking the radio is basically I am thinking of the radio in terms of the radio picks up certain signals (like 800mhz, 850mhz, 1900mhz, etc...) but each carrier prevents their radios from picking up all but one of the signal, the one they use, and prevents the rest from communicating with the device (guessing this would be the device modem?) so when I say "unlock Radio" I was meaning unlock those other frequencies and get rid of the programming which blocks them and use my device to full capability.
So now I get to see what this baby can really do thanks
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both Hard-SPL and our sim/security unlocker (separate program from Hard-SPL) work for US cellular tp2.
as for the Tmobile SIM, some of the newer SIM cards will work with that sprint radio. not all of these SIM cards will.
Hello,
I bought a second hand HOX last week. It was sold to me as unlocked from operator SFR (Vodaphone France, or CID VODAP203).
I bought an unlocking code from an internet shop, tried it, didn't work... I went into a shop specialized in unlocking phones they could not make it provider free...
So I went on to this forum. Plenty of nice things, and as I already rooted an Android tablet from TOSHIBA (FOLIO100), I tried a few things.
It appears that my phone is rooted. When I boot in bootloader it says "UNLOCKED", and it is also S-OFF!!! I am able to change the CID as much as I want, and I have set it to "11111111". As such I was told on a french forum that any SIM Card from any provider should work, but it doesn't...
I have been able to install Jelly Bean from one of the ROM developpers, thinking (and this is where I am a noob) that I will clear the part of the system that tells it is locked to one provider... Of course it didn't do anything more, or different than telling me it doesn't work on any provider.
I went back to stock from Vodaphone France, and came to you in order to get some instructions or link to have on working on another network than the vodaphone one...
Thanks in advance for your help,
Alain
First off, it's great you have an S-OFF handset. You are lucky about that.:good:
On the other hand, unlocking bootloader doesn't have anything to do with SIM locks. So, whatever you did (as you experienced it yourself) doesn't work.
I suggest you search over here, because I know for sure there is a way to unlock SIM lock on HOX. I didn't have to do it, as mine was already unlocked (or SIM free, I can't tell now).
Don't worry, you'll find the way, just be patient.
A bientot!
Yeah everyone told me it was great to have it S-OFF, although I don't know what it can do for me... I guess this would be great for developpers ?
I hope I won't have to go through several unlock code providers...
S-OFF is giving you advantage in being able to flash any ROM, any RUU, any HBOOT, any radio... Good not only for developers.
Back to topic - I suggest you visit some mobile phone service, and pay ONLY after they finish the work. I guess there are whole lot of frauds online,, that would take you money for the "unlock code", and not care if it doesn't work.
I repeat, be patient, and keep searching. Here's what I found (you can do the same search yourself):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1654075
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25341694&postcount=71
it cost me a whole £2.79 to get mine unlocked.
I bought the code from ebay inserted an un supported sim and entered the code when asked. That's the main reason actually why I've stuck with HTC they are so easy to un lock
huxleypig said:
That's the main reason actually why I've stuck with HTC they are so easy to un lock
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Mate, nowadays most phones are unlocked through pw.... code. Usually, you get it for specific handset (IMEI and operator), and just type it in as you did.
BTW, Samsung Galaxy SIII is even easier to unlock - by an apk from Google Play Store.
Hello,
I went through one of Unlock Code providers that [email protected]|-|oR provided me through his links...
I had the exact same unlock code as the one I got in France... that doesn't work. But the guys were really professional, in reimbursing my money as they could not unlock my phone.
The strangest thing is that they asked me if the phone is rooted, and said that this is why I cannot SIM Unlock, because it is rooted... I reverted by to stock, and re-locked the phone but the result is still the same, it stays stuck to SFR...
I hope a solution will come out in the form of an application such as the one for Galaxy III, it looks so easy to do.
Have a good evening,
Alain
Hi my phone was branded by orange and obviously had a simlock what did with my hox and many others before is:root the phone ,get recovery,then flash custom rom and all that branded garbage with simlock is gone.I've done it before with galaxy S,S2,now with my hox. Don't never ever buy any codes online.
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Hi my phone was branded by orange and obviously had a simlock what did with my hox and many others before is:root the phone ,get recovery,then flash custom rom and all that branded garbage with simlock is gone.I've done it before with galaxy S,S2,now with my hox. Don't never ever buy any codes online.
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Hello,
I already did that, (root, flash customer ROM), but simlock is still here... only thing I didn't change is recovery, but it is 5.8.xxx (aka I think it is the latest).
Can you guide me rapidly in return ?
Al1
SIM unlock is totally separate from rooting.