typing accented chars one handed - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Hi all,
I currently have a Tytn II but and thinking of upgrading to a Touch Pro II. One of the things that annoys me most about my current phone is that there doesn't appear to be an easy way to type accented characters one handed. I need to do this a lot in a hurry, e.g. to get bus times off the internet in stockholm. To type ä I need to press 5 keys! A, Fn, space, Fn, space, Fn, space, Fn, space.
Is the touch pro II any better for this? Maybe there is even a way I don't know about on the Tytn II?
Cheers!
Ben

If you use the hardware keyboard, you'll have to select the accented letter through the symbols screen which is quite a hassle. But if you use the on-screen soft keyboard, it's quite easy. You just tap and hold on "a" and then slide horizontally to select "ä".

Thanks for the reply! Is it really feasibly to do that with the thumb of the hand you're holding the phone with (only way to type one handed really). Cos I know it isn't really on the tytn II, the soft keypad symbols are too small. But I guess the tp2 might be improved...

Yes, it's very easy to do with the thumb one-handed.
Check out this video at the 8:00 mark. It's showing the HTC Hero, but the TP2 keyboard works the same. This way, you'll get an idea of what I'm talking about.

Cheers!
This wasn't the deciding factor... but one of them, and I ordered one now!
Ben

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[UTIL][10 APR 09] Phone (numeric only) keypad for WVGA screens

I use XPERIA and I need numeric keyboard. I didn't find it, but I wrote it. It's free.
Unlike many software input methods Phone Keypad covers large screen area
and has keys that are large enough to be typed with finger-tips, not with
a stylus. It is very handy for entering numbers. Phone Keypad also features
a close interaction with other Pocket PC programs. It runs as an input method
in Soft Input Panel (SIP), Pocket PC native technique for entering text.
I can be safely removed. Simple uninstall, without restart.
Future plans:
Your suggestions welcome.
Screenshot portrait and landscape is attached. These bitmaps is used as keyboard layout and may be changed, if you create any better.
Sounds nice, but do you have any screenshot of it?
Screenshots
yeah, screenshits will be great. just to know what were installing, because i'm tires of installing things that replace the original stuff, and have to hard reset to get back.
arci01 said:
I use XPERIA and I need numeric keyboard. I didn't find it, but I wrote it. It's free.
Unlike many software input methods Phone Keypad covers large screen area
and has keys that are large enough to be typed with finger-tips, not with
a stylus. It is very handy for entering numbers. Phone Keypad also features
a close interaction with other Pocket PC programs. It runs as an input method
in Soft Input Panel (SIP), Pocket PC native technique for entering text.
Future plans:
Your suggestions welcome.
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Oh, this is just awesome! Exactly what I made a thread about a week ago, although no one bothered to answer me. I'll install in a few minutes.
Suggestion: I'm swedish, and in the swedish language the letters å, ä and ö features prominently. Is it possible to map this to get swedish letters too, like on swedish cell phones? Å and Ä appears when you press the number 2, since it's the button used for the letter A, because Å and Ä carries resemblance to A. With Ö, it's mapped to appear at number 6, since it's similar to an O. Please consider this
screenie please
this very good idea.and it looks perfect.could you please put english letters as well?if you can make it like nokia keypad that would be lovely.good work mate.thanks.
AbdullaBHR said:
screenshits
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Be careful...
Amazing idea Arci01, but please let me make some positive suggestions:
1- add some screenshots, I recommend "cap sure": simple, free and small screen capturing app
2- you can improve the thread's title description following XDA-DEVS rules: [UTIL][10 APR 09] Phone (numeric only) Keypad of WVGA screens
This way more users will be aware (and interested) of thread contents
You can edit the thread's title by clicking "edit" (lower right corner) and then clicking "go advanced"
I use tinypic.com to upload screenshots taken with "cap sure", then I link them in my posts
Hope my 2 cents help
And again: congrats for your great contribution to the community
This SIP keyboard don't replace any installed software and can be safely removed. Simple uninstall it.
nice, very nice indeed..
I Don't suppose you want to carry on and create a full KB? it looks really good..
@arci01
Excellent work - and it is NOT black !!
I think it's good to have like this software.
quick question before i try this, does this mess up the SIP? (au button, word suggestions and such)
Looking good anyway

Numeral keypad for typing messages?

is there a tweak or something that can give the TP2 "onscreen numeral keypad" for typing messages,like on the touch hd and diamond 2 ?
i have looked through the hole tweak tread but didnt find anything for this problem...
can someone please help me...
It can switch to entering numbers and symbols by pressing the "12#" key on the onscreen keyboard. Is this what you mean?
no i mean how to get a onscreen "mobile T9 keypad" like on a "classic" cellphone. for typing messages. i like it for one hand typing. i know the diamond 2 has it, and i think also the hd.
Oh, you wanted a T9 phonepad!
When my Dopod D810 (Trinity) was upgraded to WM6, HTC omitted from the ROM the PhonePad that was originally on these WM5 devices, so they issued a patch to install it. I wonder if the patch would work on TP2 as well
praun said:
no i mean how to get a onscreen "mobile T9 keypad" like on a "classic" cellphone. for typing messages. i like it for one hand typing. i know the diamond 2 has it, and i think also the hd.
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If you press the "new sms" button and when the onscreen keyboard pops up you press the little arrow to the right of the keyboard icon at the bottom of the screen. Now a menu should appear with several options. Choose "Phonekeypad" and you're done.
emwdava said:
If you press the "new sms" button and when the onscreen keyboard pops up you press the little arrow to the right of the keyboard icon at the bottom of the screen. Now a menu should appear with several options. Choose "Phonekeypad" and you're done.
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Interesting... Phonekeypad is not available on my unit. Yet another regional variation perhaps.
I received my lovely touch 2 today. and I an glad to see that my phone HAS phone keypad !! nice
mine (italian unit) has got phonepad preinstalled

dead-cycling

I ask this again, as my question was embedded in my other posts :
How do you get dead cycling to work ? On my TyTN, when writing an email for example, if I type "e" then "Fn" + "Space" it used to role through the "special caracters", "e"->"é"->"è"->"ê".
Looking at the "eT9DeadKeys.txt" file it looks like this should also work on TP2. What's the key combinbation to make it work ?
Format:
// c0, c1, c2, c3,..ck, where
// characters on the first column (c0), trigger the dead-cycling
// (c1,...,c3,c1..) when Symb + [first column character] on SP,
// or Fn + Space (PPC) and the current character macthes character
// on the first column.
Thanks
Harvey
Does this no longer exist on TP2 ? It worked on TyTN. Does anyone know how to make it work on TP2.
Thanks for help, I find this feature really useful, it would be a shame to have lost it.
Harvey
Not sure if it works as I haven't got one yet... but I read that if you pressed and held a key the alternates for that letter would show up (i.e. the accented variants).
give it a try,
wait, here's the bit from the manual:
To enter accented characters
1. Tap and hold a key with accent options (for example, vowels) to display the accented characters bar.
2. Slide your finger left or right on the screen to select the accented character you want to enter.
3. When you have selected the character, release your finger to enter it.
Tip You can also use the Numeric and Symbol mode to enter accented characters.
For more information, see “Using Numeric and Symbol Mode” in this chapter for details.
Thanks, but that is not exactly it... what you describe is on the virtual keyboard, and it works fine (tap and hold then move your thumb onto the one you want and finally realse).
Unfortunatly, this doesn't work on the physical keyboard. If you hold key pressed, it simply repeats it.
Surely some one can say whether this has simply been lost between TyTN and TP2.
Does no one use this feature on TyTN ? I found it great, just type the caracter you want then "Fn"+"Space" to get all the "accent" versions. It alos worked for "(" -> "[" -> "{", and other similar, virtually, you could get any symbol without ever using the symbol pad.
Has any one else noticed this has gone missing between TyTN and TP2 ???
Harvey

Touch Pro 2 Tab Key

I love my TP2 but really miss the tab key. I have seen a hack somewhere that adds CTRL-T for tab, but also adds norwegian characters which I do not want to do just in case!
Can someone point me to mapping a tab key?
If you're looking to use the Tab key to switch between text fields, you can just use the arrow keys...
damn, how easy? Thanks, my sanity is returning!

Swype

How do I get swype off of my mytouch slide.....i hate it, I want to use the default keyboard
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App
You don't have to get rid of it. Just long-press any text-input field and select "input method, then "touch input." This will give you HTC's keyboard, which can be configured as either a qwerty, compact qwerty (like blackberrys), or T9 keyboards in the main settings menu.
beartard said:
You don't have to get rid of it. Just long-press any text-input field and select "input method, then "touch input." This will give you HTC's keyboard, which can be configured as either a qwerty, compact qwerty (like blackberrys), or T9 keyboards in the main settings menu.
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Thank you brother!! I just got a T Mo mytouch slide and HATE the swype!! AAARRRGHHH!! I had a G1 for 2 years all rooted and ROMed and loved the phone.... Just got old and the battery lasts 20 minutes now, by G... RIP
I find that the Dragon Dictation is fairly accurate on the phone and I prefer it to the actual keyboard most of the time. If you say "period", "comma", "question mark" or other types of punctuation it will do it as you say. Also it works GREAT when you have to put in numbers (but it will put a space after them). Alpha-numeric sucks though.
My fingers are too large to use swype accurately. It seems nice but really I would rather just use the physical keyboard.

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