dead-cycling - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

I ask this again, as my question was embedded in my other posts :
How do you get dead cycling to work ? On my TyTN, when writing an email for example, if I type "e" then "Fn" + "Space" it used to role through the "special caracters", "e"->"é"->"è"->"ê".
Looking at the "eT9DeadKeys.txt" file it looks like this should also work on TP2. What's the key combinbation to make it work ?
Format:
// c0, c1, c2, c3,..ck, where
// characters on the first column (c0), trigger the dead-cycling
// (c1,...,c3,c1..) when Symb + [first column character] on SP,
// or Fn + Space (PPC) and the current character macthes character
// on the first column.
Thanks
Harvey

Does this no longer exist on TP2 ? It worked on TyTN. Does anyone know how to make it work on TP2.
Thanks for help, I find this feature really useful, it would be a shame to have lost it.
Harvey

Not sure if it works as I haven't got one yet... but I read that if you pressed and held a key the alternates for that letter would show up (i.e. the accented variants).
give it a try,
wait, here's the bit from the manual:
To enter accented characters
1. Tap and hold a key with accent options (for example, vowels) to display the accented characters bar.
2. Slide your finger left or right on the screen to select the accented character you want to enter.
3. When you have selected the character, release your finger to enter it.
Tip You can also use the Numeric and Symbol mode to enter accented characters.
For more information, see “Using Numeric and Symbol Mode” in this chapter for details.

Thanks, but that is not exactly it... what you describe is on the virtual keyboard, and it works fine (tap and hold then move your thumb onto the one you want and finally realse).
Unfortunatly, this doesn't work on the physical keyboard. If you hold key pressed, it simply repeats it.
Surely some one can say whether this has simply been lost between TyTN and TP2.
Does no one use this feature on TyTN ? I found it great, just type the caracter you want then "Fn"+"Space" to get all the "accent" versions. It alos worked for "(" -> "[" -> "{", and other similar, virtually, you could get any symbol without ever using the symbol pad.
Has any one else noticed this has gone missing between TyTN and TP2 ???
Harvey

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[bug] New thread, reply, quick reply text boxes defaulting to EN-US keyboard layout?!

Edit: This bug is now resolved.
Hi, just something I've noticed - when using the Quick reply box on this forum, for some reason (at least on my PC, but I'm pretty sure it's not a problem at my end because no other forum does it) it modifies the input locale to the US English keyboard layout, so if I hit Shift+2 (which on my PC normally produces the inverted comma " symbol) I get an ampersand (@). And of course, to get inverted commas I have to hit Shift and the apostrophe key (which on EN-UK keyboards produces the ampersand, but on EN-US keyboards it produces inverted commas: " ).
This is _really weird_, and it's not the only wrong key mapping: check this out...
Ok, so this is what I get when I hit Shift+number keys (along the top).
I should get (in order): !, ", £, $, € (which is on the same key as $, to get it you type Alt Gr + 4... US keyboards don't have an Alt Graphics key!), %, ^, &, *, (, ) ... What I actually get is !, @, #, $ (for some reason Alt Gr + 4 makes my cursor jump outside of the text box), %, ^, &, *, (, ) - which to me looks like EN-US keyboard layout.
I also have incorrect mappings on some of my other keyboard symbol keys, for example the tilde/hash key (next to the Enter key on the middle row on a UK keyboard) gives \ and | - which on UK keyboards are right next to the left shift key (they also work in this text box, but the hash (pound key, heh) is on the 4 key, which is wrong.
It's really bizarre, and it's never happened to me on any other forum (including other vB forums!) so I can only assume the input locale is incorrectly set on the forum config... Is it set to Unicode, or En-US or another specific locale or what? 1044 is Unicode English if I remember correctly, but I've not adminned a vB forum for a faiiiiiiiiir while so I honestly couldn't give any more help than this :/
It's not a terminal flaw, it's just REALLY. ANNOYING. when you're typing stuff and it screws up all the symbols :/
Can't reproduce it on firefox under linux... my spanish keyboard layout is working perfect: ñññ
Hi Christopher,
I can't for the live of me think of anything that would do this.
Nevertheless I checked the vbulletin settings and changed a setting, although I don't feel it should be the problem (it doesn't need to be on so it's worth a try).
Please let me know if this changed anything for you, since I'll turn it back on if it didn't.
Thanks in advance,
Flar
Dont see an issue with my swiss german keyboard.
IE6 XP
My Keyboard is fine - 2 and " - there you go...
""@@ - working fine on my (new) laptop. Running XP Pro, installed it fresh over the XP Home install (yeuck, why can't vendors understand that sometimes end-users WANT the Pro versions?!)
Just tried loading up the same thread, hitting Quick Reply in both IE6 and Flock, and the problem is fixed now - so I'd love to know what you changed!
All sorted now, thanks for taking the time to investigate and solve whatever it was which was causing this to happen, because it was really driving me nuts.

Ricky's Rom Q's

Hey all,
About a week ago I updated from 6.0 to 6.1 ricky edition no opera, on my dash.
I works great, but I have a few problems which I cant find out how to fix.
1. When I go to Stat/ My tools/ Extras, and open one of the command prompt looking icons, I cant move up or down, or switch the option.
2. When txt, The keyboard is all jumbled up. The main letters work fine, e.i. The qwerty letters, but the alt letters are mixed up. When I press the ! key, (M) it gives a = sign. When I press = (L) it gives me the euro sign.
Thanks in advanced!
Dash Hacker said:
Hey all,
About a week ago I updated from 6.0 to 6.1 ricky edition no opera, on my dash.
I works great, but I have a few problems which I cant find out how to fix.
1. When I go to Stat/ My tools/ Extras, and open one of the command prompt looking icons, I cant move up or down, or switch the option.
2. When txt, The keyboard is all jumbled up. The main letters work fine, e.i. The qwerty letters, but the alt letters are mixed up. When I press the ! key, (M) it gives a = sign. When I press = (L) it gives me the euro sign.
Thanks in advanced!
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Regarding the extras when trying to choose one move right instead of down and then up will be left.
You dont say whrere your from so for US English TegiceT9
For UK look @ my sig eT9 Full, install the one you need then reboot go to a text input box and press FN + Space and choose ABC.
WOW! You are amazing! Both problems resolved in record time! Is there any way I can recognize this man? in not, just +rep!
Well I am happy that you are satisfied...

I hate the fn + sym key... lets get the deadkeys back !

I really hate this process..
I want to get the deadkeys back and assign it to the fn+sym key.
Unfortunatly the key code of deadkeys on pro2 is not the same has other devices.
looking at the windows folder or the rom, we find the usual file responsible for the keyboard layout/keycodes. On this case et9.rhodium.www.kmap.txt and messing around with it, i can make the fn+sym do other things but i just can't find the deadkeys code.
Again looking at windows we find that the file eT9DeaKeys.txt is there !!
I'm just missing the dead key keycode to assing it to fn+sym instead of opening the symbol keyboard.
Any help/ideas ??
sorry for the noob question. What exactly is/are the deadkeys?
ctrl, shift, alt
no it's the function found on other devices like xperia , it's the "au" key.
like you press a + "au" an it gives you à or á.
The function is called deadkeys and the keycode responsible for that is 7A that the keyboard driver does not have.
I'm asked for help to try and get that back..
If "I" have success then i can map like fn+space (like on kayser) to intead of opening the xt9 menu to cicle throu other options.
Only time will tell..
Did you find any solution for this? I am also looking forward to entering accented characters just like on Kaiser.

Accessing the full character set

Please can someone tell me how to access the full character set (eg the copyright symbol, bullet symbols etc) when writing SMSs, emails or Notes as the built in keyboard doesn't have them and is very limited? Thank you.
Use the Symbol key on the keyboard to bring up a list of characters to choose from
You've got access to a lot of symbols by pressing [FN] + [,] keys when writing something (Qwerty keyboard, unbranded TP2).
Thank you, this is helpful. But it's still not the full ASCII set. Is there any way of accessing the full set using the ASCII codes for example?
Indeed, for instance the \ isn't available.
Very annoying when you want to login via Remote Desktop, and you need to type the domainname

[App][(W)VGA]MulkeyTouch - A Multi-Touch Keyboard on WinMo Resistive Screens

It's really truly able to have a multi-touch keyboard on a resistive screen WinMo!!
it may takes some time.but then how many people would still use Windows Phone classic(except HD2)?!
MulkeyTouch = MultiTouch Key(board)
for more introduces pls read the following Notice.
Requirements
WVGA/VGA resolution[actually the technology works for all resistive screen-devices]
.NET CF 3.5 or higher
How it comes true?
read my first thread:
Multi 2.0 - Show and Explain Dual-Touch Technology On Resistive Screens
Here're some pictures(I've tried making a demo video.but it doesn't seem good.these are the shots of the video)
It's a WP7-style keyboard.It hasn't been finished.it can be used to input letters only..no numbers or symbols but "." and ","
[I used a stylus just to let you see more clearly.]And it proves that the screen is resistive.(It's TP2)
Notice
multi-touch keyboard
= dual-touch keyboard
= you can hold Shift key and press any letters' key at the same time to input capital letters
but you can't press two letters' key at the same time.it doesn't makes sense.
as my limited ability,i'm not able to write a real keyboard (in Native code.)
this is an 'app-in' keyboard..
(the keyboard have to run in the app.you can't use it to input texts to any other textboxes outside the app.)
But it shows the capability of having a multi-touch keyboard on resistive screen.
and of course it can be developed as a real system keyboard.
it doesn't work very well.the second key it detects may not the key you press especially when the key is far from the Shift key(such as P,O,I,L,K)..
but it's possible to add a function to modify the position values so that it can detect properly.
so i make another app called Modifine.(means to "modify" something to make it "fine")
but the modified result doesn't seem very good yet-.-!!...
Much better now..
Download
The NEW file MulKeyTouch 1.0 - (W)VGA.7z works for WVGA and VGA resolutions!
It has only one .exe file.but you'd better extract it to any one directory before run it.
cuz it'll create an Modifine.txt file on the directory to enable Modifine mod.
Please read the next post about how to use.
How to use it.
There are 4 ways to input captial letters:
[Normal way]Input 1 captial letters.Just press the "Shift" key then click any letter's key.
[Normal way]Input ≥1 captial letters.Click the "Shift" key twice then you can keep inputing captial letters
[Quick way]Input 1 captial letters.Hold the "Shift" key then move to any letter's key.It's a better way to input letters that near the "Shift" key such as "Z","A","Q","X",etc.
[Quick dual-touch way]Input ≥1 captial letters.Hold the "Shift" key and press any letter's key.
About Modifine
Does the second key it detects is not the key you are pressing on?
In particular the keys far from Shift key such as "P","O","L"
Then you may have to modify the position it gets.
Different screen may has its own dual-touch ability.
So you'll have modified values set by yourself.
1.Click "Modifine" button.
2.Click "Start Modifine!" button.
3.Hold the central of the "Shift" key.
4.Immediately draw follow the green line from lower left corner to top right corner.
5.Click "Back" button.
6.Enable the Modifine mode by click the "Smile" key(it's on the lower left corner of MKT keyboard.NOT the "Modifine" form's keyboard.)
7.Test it by input captial letters in the [Quick dual-touch way]
A much better way to see where the modified position go:
Check the "Show touch points" checkbox on Modifine form.
You can see two points while you input captial letters that are near the top right corner.
Red Point - original detected touch point
Green Point - modified point
I know there's a bug that the new points come but old points were not cleared.as i think you can find out the latest points.and for better running speed.i'm not going to fix it now.
PS.the app's icon(in 32x32 size) writes "没课逃~" which means "No classes to be skipped" in Chinese.
and Chinese pinyin of the three characters is "Mei Ke Tao",whose shortened (is MKT) is the same as MulKeyTouch's.
I use it to commemorate my dropping out of school~
Sorry for my poor English.
looks promising. keep up the good work
Woah! this is Awesome.. but i use Android on my HD2...whatever..
YOU GET A COOKIE! (Thanks)
Dude keep up the Awesome work..
now thank me for thanking your a** x'P
nice one bro, keep it up!
plz release for qvga.
thanks!
I believe many members will stay on WM for a while
Thanks!
It seems that you like WP7 keyboard
Gorgeous work. I'll look on it right away!
So, unfortunately, I cannot test the keyboard properly because I'm running VGA device (Diamond) and the textbox overlays the keyboard from the top. Maybe you can set Anchor property to TextBox? or there maybe is another way to change the textbox size dynamically?
otherwise it looks neat
If you need any help in implement the Multitouch for the HD2, write me a message
PaulosCZ said:
So, unfortunately, I cannot test the keyboard properly because I'm running VGA device (Diamond) and the textbox overlays the keyboard from the top. Maybe you can set Anchor property to TextBox? or there maybe is another way to change the textbox size dynamically?
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thx for ur feedback!
MulKeyTouch 1.0 - (W)VGA.7z is released.it works for WVGA and VGA resolutions.
deepv84 said:
plz release for qvga.
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sorry.may not..
thx all~
支持中国朋友~呵呵~非常感谢~

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