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Touch Keyboard

I'm sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere (And yes I did look), but is there a way to set the touch keyboard to default to the "Touch Keyboard" where each character has its own button? On some screens it appears like that, but on others the "QU", "ER", etc share a key. It's really frustrating.
Thanks in advance!!!!!

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johnannie said:
I'm sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere (And yes I did look), but is there a way to set the touch keyboard to default to the "Touch Keyboard" where each character has its own button? On some screens it appears like that, but on others the "QU", "ER", etc share a key. It's really frustrating.
Thanks in advance!!!!!
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This is the cab to keep the 40 key "password" you will lose T9 and word prediction ..... do a registry backup.......this cab despite what ever it says WILL uninstall... the registry backup is just in case it can't be uninstalled. I pesonally have uninstalled and reinstalled many times without hard reset...Hope this helps
https://home.comcast.net/~codyppc/CodyPPC_40_key.cab
I didn't make it but codyppc did so give him kudos if you catch him out in cyberworld
This is for the touch keyboard on the touch
Timdawg

Another option
I like what timdawgdentist recommended because I did not know that there was the option available. However, I find the password keyboard a bit difficult to use myself, so I installed PCMKeyboard.
http://www.pocketcm.com/keyboard2.php

That PCMKeybord is really great. It's taking a while to get used to, but I certainly like it much more than any of the others that I've tried. Thanks!!!!!!!

I personally LOVE TouchPal keyboard, I was a fan with 1.0 and now with 2.0 it is that much better, Twice as better and easier to use. I use SIPChange to make that my default Keyboard. You should try it. You can type so freaking fast with it.

Hugo381 said:
I personally LOVE TouchPal keyboard, I was a fan with 1.0 and now with 2.0 it is that much better, Twice as better and easier to use. I use SIPChange to make that my default Keyboard. You should try it. You can type so freaking fast with it.
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I have hard time text messaging with the native texting program that comes with the HTC Touch (Sprint/Vogue). I can't get the keyboard to disappear so that I can press the send bottom on the bottom of the page.

I like the SPB Fullscreen Keyboard with the black47 theme and PCM Keyboard with iPhone skins.
I tried TouchPal, Touch Keyboard and Keypad.
I prefer the touch keyboard from the least 3 i like.
but I mainly use the Fullscreen now but usually wind up switching around to the PCM. Sometimes predictive is good, sometimes I need to be precise

D-Pad SIP coming! - No Cab Yet -- Need Suggestions

All... I will be staring development of a D-Pad SIP for free release on this board in the next week... I will release as soon as I have something that is functional. Here are the initial features... please use this space to suggest others...
Four (Top,bottom,right left) buttons plus optional center
Special zone button for switching to user defined standard keyboard
D-SIP Toggled via any assignable button sequence (will play well with apps like Mobile Magic)
user definable gestures support
I will add accepted features to this list above with a 'Phase' (e.g. planned for release 1,2 or eventually)
Blessings one and all -- My Christmas gift to you

abeery said:
All... I will be staring development of a D-Pad SIP for free release on this board in the next week... I will release as soon as I have something that is functional. Here are the initial features... please use this space to suggest others...
(...)
Blessings one and all -- My Christmas gift to you
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That seems to be a very nice Christmas gift! You will make many users of Touch HD very happy. Thanks for your effort.
One suggestion:
If possible I would like to get continuous signal and user defined repeat rate as well as user defined delay until repetition begins (just like hardware dpad can be calibrated via settings).
Thanks in advance.

Hmm, it will be hard to enable it in applications wich doesnt support SIP's such as games
Maybe it is possible to run a application in a "640x480"px Frame and to use the 160pixel at the bottom for a D-Pad...

Would be nics to add in a rotation button, I don't like how gsen and gyrator mess up my screen when I don't want it to. Also Might come in handy a clear 4 way pad to be use ingame, left or right of the screen, maybe that is a little too much to ask for?

Koffein Schluck said:
Hmm, it will be hard to enable it in applications wich doesnt support SIP's such as games
Maybe it is possible to run a application in a "640x480"px Frame and to use the 160pixel at the bottom for a D-Pad...
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My hope is to add a option to force a 640x480 resolution for "configured" applications and then use the freed 160px for the D-Pad... in non-configured apps it would function like any other SIP. Still researching my approach

consider adding the buttons for Cut Copy and Paste

sounds like a great idea! hope it works

The 2 hardware keys (left and right) for the selection of the soft menus are a must!

I am a bit confused maybe due to lack of my knowledge of exactly what configuration this new SIP will carry. My confusion is because if you happen to see the Cootek TouchPal it already has a tab which gives you navigation options such as top, bottom, left, Right, select, cut and copy.
How is your SIP going to be different from TouchPal.
Regards

srmz said:
I am a bit confused maybe due to lack of my knowledge of exactly what configuration this new SIP will carry. My confusion is because if you happen to see the Cootek TouchPal it already has a tab which gives you navigation options such as top, bottom, left, Right, select, cut and copy.
How is your SIP going to be different from TouchPal.
Regards
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I guess the goal of this SIP is to be available in all applications (e.g. games) that usually depend on some hardware buttons to be playable and not just the ones that activate a SIP for input by default like SMS, Email etc.

One suggestion would be to have 8 directions on the virtual pad. On a real dpad you can press 2 directions simultaneously (useful in games) however the resistive screen means that there would only be one key press at a time.

Sorry for my ignorance...i am very new to WinMo phone.
Can anyone tell me what is SIP and how it is going to work?
By the way there is a software called AEBplus which can configured the hardware Vol up/down for HD, is it going to be similiar?

razorblader said:
I guess the goal of this SIP is to be available in all applications (e.g. games)
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As the most games I know use their own keyboard implementation, a SIP won't work for them. SIP will just for most applications, rather the ones, where you see the "keyboard icon" in the bottom, where you can change the keyboard and make some settings.

Looking forward to it

I think a good starting point could be to create a full screen application (a sort of container) with a sidebar implementing the Dpad that emulates an hardware pad + some buttons and a 'window' 640x480px where other applications can run.
In this mode it should be possible to generate the standard Windows messages when a soft-key is hit so that the windowed application could be fooled thinking that the user is acting on a true Dpad/key.
Bye

So it will work with for example pocket gba emulator ?

Wolfenzi said:
So it will work with for example pocket gba emulator ?
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Something like this allready exist, google MorphGear
it will work with PPC Games better than GBA

any news on this project?

Same question here. I am waiting for this as the most important thing for Touch HD on this forum. I want arrow keys in my age of empires to move map
By the way : If you can, you should do that virtual pad fully configurable, like morphgear has (text file with functions and color numbers and bmp picture with those colors on certain places + copy of that but in colors that will be displayed)

I'm still experimenting with various approaches... unfortunately it seems like the most viable approach will involve the four softkeys at the bottom of the device... everything else I try only works when I can force a SIP to be present and unfortunately it seems that the times I want a D-Pad SIP the most are the apps that make this difficult... BTW... if anyone has a code sample for reassigning the HomeKey send me a PM please. For now all I can say is please continue to have patience... I'm still working on making a solution available

keyboard thread...

I was wondering if there had been a thread dedicated towards various keyboards or not.. so I thought I would start one. I've read a few things spread out about keyboards but nothing dedicated.
on that note: is someone who is capable of creating a keyboard, much like the iphone style (keys spaced out, not cramped together for people with fat fingers [like myself] and fewer buttons) be willing make one for all of us to benefit...?
thanks!

I have had the PCM keyboard (v0.14) installed, but it messed up the default HTC keyboard. Still don't know how or why that happened.
Turned out I liked the HTC better, so deleted all other keyboards I had
Still waiting for a Swype-like keyboard to try.
Grtz,
Thijs

you could try the resco keyboard. It is great... apart from it having no comma and period on the first page, making it still very slow to work with for me.

that swype looks great
i like the Yota keyboard, looks ideal for people with sausage hands like me

I'll have to give those a try, it seems there are too many buttons on the reg qwerty pad.
next question, how do I change it?

Garfoid said:
that swype looks great
i like the Yota keyboard, looks ideal for people with sausage hands like me
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Yep, but that Yota keyboard hasn't been extracted yet.
Hope somebody is capable of doing this!

thijs84 said:
I have had the PCM keyboard (v0.14) installed, but it messed up the default HTC keyboard. Still don't know how or why that happened.
Turned out I liked the HTC better, so deleted all other keyboards I had
Still waiting for a Swype-like keyboard to try.
Grtz,
Thijs
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Try the Shapewriter...works on same technology of swype...although i didnt like it personally...numpad was too cramped...but u might like it since u mentioned swype...swype does look appealing

right now am using SPB and Resco pretty good but sometimes when you tap a letter it doesnt appear.. its like it has a delay or something! but i do wish someone makes sometimes that works good!

PCMK kills them all. Without a doubt.
Tene is also adding gesture support in the next version here, and you can add cursor buttons (left right up down) as in HTC keyboard for navi. Easily the best, I have tried I think just about all sips.
Fully skinnable and you can also change the layout to just how you want. Would highly recommend it.
pocketcm.com

I found it a bit slow and the autocomplete shows only one option. plus the feedback didn't appear instantly as it should.

Kizmet said:
I found it a bit slow and the autocomplete shows only one option. plus the feedback didn't appear instantly as it should.
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How recently have you tried it?
.23 has none of those issues...

Swype seems cool, does anybody have any idea on when the public version will come out? It seems like you can have them contact you when the beta version comes out...

my self keyboard
I'm using self create keyboard, that looks like iphone. Have maximum configuration (but editing skin file in which all buttons and logic described)
At now it's with EN and RU layouts.
Unpack archive to Program files, run Register.exe and select Fingerkeyb.dll file with full path. Press register button to register keyboard.
Also keyboard can hover over buttom bar to incrase screen free space (ChildWnd parameter in skin file)
Skin file located in Skins\Skin.txt, be careful skin file must be in unicode format, also at now only Portrait orientation supported.
Keyboard developed for self only and have a bit of documentation, all info in file Skins\KEY-OPS.TXT which describes format of skin.txt format
See screenshots.
Landscape upgrade here

exidler said:
I'm using self create keyboard, that looks like iphone. Have maximum configuration (but editing skin file in which all buttons and logic described)
At now it's with EN and RU layouts.
Unpack archive to Program files, run Register.exe and select Fingerkeyb.dll file with full path. Press register button to register keyboard.
Also keyboard can hover over buttom bar to incrase screen free space (ChildWnd parameter in skin file)
Skin file located in Skins\Skin.txt, be careful skin file must be in unicode format, also at now only Portrait orientation supported.
Keyboard developed for self only and have a bit of documentation, all info in file Skins\KEY-OPS.TXT which describes format of skin.txt format
See screenshots.
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Wow really you just made this? Awesome I will have to give it a try sometime...have a cab for easier installation?

exidler said:
I'm using self create keyboard, that looks like iphone. Have maximum configuration (but editing skin file in which all buttons and logic described)
At now it's with EN and RU layouts.
Unpack archive to Program files, run Register.exe and select Fingerkeyb.dll file with full path. Press register button to register keyboard.
Also keyboard can hover over buttom bar to incrase screen free space (ChildWnd parameter in skin file)
Skin file located in Skins\Skin.txt, be careful skin file must be in unicode format, also at now only Portrait orientation supported.
Keyboard developed for self only and have a bit of documentation, all info in file Skins\KEY-OPS.TXT which describes format of skin.txt format
See screenshots.
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Great Keyboard Works pretty fast...
Can you creat one with swiss-german qwert layout plz?
Thx and greetz

Kizmet said:
I found it a bit slow and the autocomplete shows only one option. plus the feedback didn't appear instantly as it should.
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Hi, I also found that you really have to press the screen hard for the feedback to work, you can still press the letter and it appears on the screen but no feedback unless pressed hard??
Also no full stop on the front page??
I am using the latest version which i think is .23??
As coming from an iPhone i really like this keyboard so hope the bugs are ironed out

hi
how do install this keyboard?? ive tried the above guide but it doesnt register i press the register tab and it doesnt do anything. please can you upload a cab file for us noobs. please help this looks very nice

morgin187 said:
how do install this keyboard??
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Save attached exe to the same directory on phone, where fingerkeyb.dll exist and run program. After successful registration keyboard must show in keyboard list.

Fre4k said:
Can you create one with swiss-german qwert layout plz?
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I have not how layout located physically and also not so much free time.
You can make it and share for other peoples!
If you have interest with creating new layouts, i can help you with additional questions. (Look current implementation of en-ru layouts

exidler said:
I'm using self create keyboard, that looks like iphone. Have maximum configuration (but editing skin file in which all buttons and logic described)
At now it's with EN and RU layouts.
Unpack archive to Program files, run Register.exe and select Fingerkeyb.dll file with full path. Press register button to register keyboard.
Also keyboard can hover over buttom bar to incrase screen free space (ChildWnd parameter in skin file)
Skin file located in Skins\Skin.txt, be careful skin file must be in unicode format, also at now only Portrait orientation supported.
Keyboard developed for self only and have a bit of documentation, all info in file Skins\KEY-OPS.TXT which describes format of skin.txt format
See screenshots.
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i think your keyboard is amazing! i hope to see a version who work also in landscape!

KeyPad (OLd SCHOOL)

Anyone know how to use this keypad as a sms keypad?
i always like old school keypad thank you!
i like the effect of this keypad looks like steel.
and more space available for touch

i also looking for keypad typing and was recommended the HTC 1. not bad can try it

if you want to install input method t9
look here
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=118315
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=55530

ive tried easysms and phonetype.
you can search for both and try.
i like phonetype better coz easysms is too colorful and kind of have a slow response.
i was trying on htc's but can't seem to make it work.

here are some screenshots of phonetype
shows the 3 options for the keypad layout

BlackStone_Keypad.cab
only english and russian and phonepad and full qwerty
get the file another language and replace reg info
also view Football_Touch_HD_Keyboard_RUS (eng/rus)

[App][(W)VGA]MulkeyTouch - A Multi-Touch Keyboard on WinMo Resistive Screens

It's really truly able to have a multi-touch keyboard on a resistive screen WinMo!!
it may takes some time.but then how many people would still use Windows Phone classic(except HD2)?!
MulkeyTouch = MultiTouch Key(board)
for more introduces pls read the following Notice.
Requirements
WVGA/VGA resolution[actually the technology works for all resistive screen-devices]
.NET CF 3.5 or higher
How it comes true?
read my first thread:
Multi 2.0 - Show and Explain Dual-Touch Technology On Resistive Screens
Here're some pictures(I've tried making a demo video.but it doesn't seem good.these are the shots of the video)
It's a WP7-style keyboard.It hasn't been finished.it can be used to input letters only..no numbers or symbols but "." and ","
[I used a stylus just to let you see more clearly.]And it proves that the screen is resistive.(It's TP2)
Notice
multi-touch keyboard
= dual-touch keyboard
= you can hold Shift key and press any letters' key at the same time to input capital letters
but you can't press two letters' key at the same time.it doesn't makes sense.
as my limited ability,i'm not able to write a real keyboard (in Native code.)
this is an 'app-in' keyboard..
(the keyboard have to run in the app.you can't use it to input texts to any other textboxes outside the app.)
But it shows the capability of having a multi-touch keyboard on resistive screen.
and of course it can be developed as a real system keyboard.
it doesn't work very well.the second key it detects may not the key you press especially when the key is far from the Shift key(such as P,O,I,L,K)..
but it's possible to add a function to modify the position values so that it can detect properly.
so i make another app called Modifine.(means to "modify" something to make it "fine")
but the modified result doesn't seem very good yet-.-!!...
Much better now..
Download
The NEW file MulKeyTouch 1.0 - (W)VGA.7z works for WVGA and VGA resolutions!
It has only one .exe file.but you'd better extract it to any one directory before run it.
cuz it'll create an Modifine.txt file on the directory to enable Modifine mod.
Please read the next post about how to use.

How to use it.
There are 4 ways to input captial letters:
[Normal way]Input 1 captial letters.Just press the "Shift" key then click any letter's key.
[Normal way]Input ≥1 captial letters.Click the "Shift" key twice then you can keep inputing captial letters
[Quick way]Input 1 captial letters.Hold the "Shift" key then move to any letter's key.It's a better way to input letters that near the "Shift" key such as "Z","A","Q","X",etc.
[Quick dual-touch way]Input ≥1 captial letters.Hold the "Shift" key and press any letter's key.
About Modifine
Does the second key it detects is not the key you are pressing on?
In particular the keys far from Shift key such as "P","O","L"
Then you may have to modify the position it gets.
Different screen may has its own dual-touch ability.
So you'll have modified values set by yourself.
1.Click "Modifine" button.
2.Click "Start Modifine!" button.
3.Hold the central of the "Shift" key.
4.Immediately draw follow the green line from lower left corner to top right corner.
5.Click "Back" button.
6.Enable the Modifine mode by click the "Smile" key(it's on the lower left corner of MKT keyboard.NOT the "Modifine" form's keyboard.)
7.Test it by input captial letters in the [Quick dual-touch way]
A much better way to see where the modified position go:
Check the "Show touch points" checkbox on Modifine form.
You can see two points while you input captial letters that are near the top right corner.
Red Point - original detected touch point
Green Point - modified point
I know there's a bug that the new points come but old points were not cleared.as i think you can find out the latest points.and for better running speed.i'm not going to fix it now.
PS.the app's icon(in 32x32 size) writes "没课逃~" which means "No classes to be skipped" in Chinese.
and Chinese pinyin of the three characters is "Mei Ke Tao",whose shortened (is MKT) is the same as MulKeyTouch's.
I use it to commemorate my dropping out of school~
Sorry for my poor English.

looks promising. keep up the good work

Woah! this is Awesome.. but i use Android on my HD2...whatever..
YOU GET A COOKIE! (Thanks)
Dude keep up the Awesome work..
now thank me for thanking your a** x'P

nice one bro, keep it up!

plz release for qvga.
thanks!

I believe many members will stay on WM for a while
Thanks!

It seems that you like WP7 keyboard
Gorgeous work. I'll look on it right away!

So, unfortunately, I cannot test the keyboard properly because I'm running VGA device (Diamond) and the textbox overlays the keyboard from the top. Maybe you can set Anchor property to TextBox? or there maybe is another way to change the textbox size dynamically?
otherwise it looks neat

If you need any help in implement the Multitouch for the HD2, write me a message

PaulosCZ said:
So, unfortunately, I cannot test the keyboard properly because I'm running VGA device (Diamond) and the textbox overlays the keyboard from the top. Maybe you can set Anchor property to TextBox? or there maybe is another way to change the textbox size dynamically?
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thx for ur feedback!
MulKeyTouch 1.0 - (W)VGA.7z is released.it works for WVGA and VGA resolutions.
deepv84 said:
plz release for qvga.
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sorry.may not..
thx all~

支持中国朋友~呵呵~非常感谢~