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T-MOBILE DASH help with GPS!

So I have the T-Mobile Dash and use Google Maps a lot for phone numbers, maps, directions and what not...but the GPS "My Location" setting never worked. So I figured the Dash didn't support GPS.
However, i upgraded to WM6.1 on this site, Kavanas i found on here, and as it wiped out the phone and I started using it again.....google maps DID let me use the my location GPS setting and now I can see the dot on the map where i am, and it moves and works, so I figured my phone indeed had GPS now...
I am trying to use a golf GPS application, and I never get a signal....do i have GPS? shouldnt it work if google maps uses GPS? should I manually set it up using the COM ports and rates it allows me to manually enter instead of checkin automatically use windows default gps settings?

I am pretty sure that (1) an upgrade would not simply give you GPS and (2) the dash (1st generation not 3G) does not have GPS built it (as it is a major 'improvement' to the Dash 3G).
If that program started to work for you, it may have been using triangulation calculations by locating the 3[+] towers your phone is connected to at one time (at least for T-Mobile this is so)and finding your coordinate.
The problem could be lack of signal in the Golf Course, or maybe you are switching between towers too fast, or possibly the trees are interfering, or a final problem could be that the towers you are connecting to do have any position data being emitted, so the program can't gather coordinates.
Those are my 2¢ (i may be wrong)

i agree with cyclone. i believe in my limited knowledge that our dash's do not have gps, rather an estimate with trianglation which is why in googlemaps im usually 2-3 streets from my actual location. and it does not work for bing's gps

The dash does not come with GPS.
Google maps and similar apps do indeed triangulate and/or guestimate from cell towers. I'm no golfer, but I suspect that this is never going to be accurate enough to be of any help on the course - your position is going to be, maybe, 500 yards/metres out.
You can, however, pick up little bluetooth GPS units on eBay for about £15, $20 or so. These work very well with the Dash. I have one myself - the only problem I've had with them is they get lost easily and some have lots of flashing LEDs on, you get funny looks from security people if you have it in a shirt pocket!!

ratstrangler said:
The dash does not come with GPS.
Google maps and similar apps do indeed triangulate and/or guestimate from cell towers. I'm no golfer, but I suspect that this is never going to be accurate enough to be of any help on the course - your position is going to be, maybe, 500 yards/metres out.
You can, however, pick up little bluetooth GPS units on eBay for about £15, $20 or so. These work very well with the Dash. I have one myself - the only problem I've had with them is they get lost easily and some have lots of flashing LEDs on, you get funny looks from security people if you have it in a shirt pocket!!
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I live in the middle of town GMaps puts me out in the sticks about 5-6 miles away lol
Didn't notice you was Welsh shwmae

Diolch butt.
Keep a secret?
I'm a Scouser, only been down here for 20 years.
Shh!

ratstrangler said:
Diolch butt.
Keep a secret?
I'm a Scouser, only been down here for 20 years.
Shh!
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Hay we all have to be born somewhere
I get Diolch not the butt, i lived down poppit sands for a while so only knowz what the local's would say, labouring

Butt/butty = buddy.
It's probably a Valleys thing.

Erratic and lost GPS signals

While tracking my walks I've recently started getting wildly wrong signals recorded. For example, the last mile of a walk was ruined because the position reported jumped miles away and then darted around wildly. And after that it never returned to the true path. Similar behaviour occurred several times.
I'n not sure if it's related, but the initial GPS satellite fix is taking a long time, sometimes 6-8 mins. This is regardless of whether I use QuickGPS beforehand. And in the GPS Satelites window of the application I use, Memory-Map, the vertical bars never look very tall. I did briefly see a message at one time telling me to set something like the 'GPS Location' or 'GPS Position'. But I could find no way to do that. Nor can I reproduce that message.
Can anyone help please? This comes at a bad time as I'm off on a walking holiday on Friday. I posted originally in the HTC Forum but have had no replies.
This is an unlocked HTC Touch Pro 2 running under WM 6.1. Happy to provide any other details.
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Terry, East Grinstead, UK

terrypin said:
While tracking my walks I've recently started getting wildly wrong signals recorded. For example, the last mile of a walk was ruined because the position reported jumped miles away and then darted around wildly. And after that it never returned to the true path. Similar behaviour occurred several times.
I'n not sure if it's related, but the initial GPS satellite fix is taking a long time, sometimes 6-8 mins. This is regardless of whether I use QuickGPS beforehand. And in the GPS Satelites window of the application I use, Memory-Map, the vertical bars never look very tall. I did briefly see a message at one time telling me to set something like the 'GPS Location' or 'GPS Position'. But I could find no way to do that. Nor can I reproduce that message.
Can anyone help please? This comes at a bad time as I'm off on a walking holiday on Friday. I posted originally in the HTC Forum but have had no replies.
This is an unlocked HTC Touch Pro 2 running under WM 6.1. Happy to provide any other details.
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Terry, East Grinstead, UK
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Hi, what baud rate have you set up com 4 for?

telegraph0000 said:
Hi, what baud rate have you set up com 4 for?
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4800 & 9600. No difference.
Meanwhile I've turned off Assisted GPS (and also the logfile) and will try that as soon as possible.
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Terry, East Grinstead, UK

terrypin said:
4800 & 9600. No difference.
Meanwhile I've turned off Assisted GPS (and also the logfile) and will try that as soon as possible.
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Terry, East Grinstead, UK
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57600...have you tried it yet?

Why is GPS so important

Ok so I see/read about all these leaks and blah blah and on every forum I go to people complain about gps I don't see the big deal I hardly use gps it doesn't seem to bother me what do u guys use gps so much for that when looking at a rom or phone gps has to be a priority just curious I guess yes I kno about traveling is that it or am I missing something
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Because I sold my gps to get my epic
And I have to drive places I don't know very well
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But I mean how off can ur gps be? Some people complain about meer feet I understand the traveling idea cause yea I use it to go to the other sides of town where I live but to choose whether or not ur gonna get a certain rom, phone, manufacture cause of gps problems I think its crazy..if that's the only reason some people are just picky I thought maybe gps dealt with somethin else that's why people cared about it so much?
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Before I got my tab I used GPS quite often. It was a feature I bought the phone for and I wanted it to work. Surprisingly my Gtab has a great GPS.
My wife the real estate agent seems to think it's pretty important too.

I stopped bringing my gps places. I pay for the service, it should work.

guess that makes since I'm still not gonna not get a phone I've been excited about cause I hear it has gps issues that's just me maybe
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Mine has made stupid mistakes that made me retrace an exit or 2, but i really can't say my regular gps has performed so perfectly.

thall302559 said:
Ok so I see/read about all these leaks and blah blah and on every forum I go to people complain about gps I don't see the big deal I hardly use gps it doesn't seem to bother me what do u guys use gps so much for that when looking at a rom or phone gps has to be a priority just curious I guess yes I kno about traveling is that it or am I missing something
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The average person needs GPS for a lot of reasons. Some people actually use it rather than pretend they know where they are going, only to get lost, drive like an over cautious idiot causing accidents because they really dont know where they are going. I got my dad an Epic for the GPS because he's one of those people.

Gps is very useful for many reasons. Of course the obvious is getting around town.
But it also integrates with many apps that use your location. Such as yelp, or movie app, or facebook etc...
True, you could always manually enter your location, but one of the main selling points for me on a smartphone is to reduce the amount of things I need to do in my daily life.
Getting back to "getting around town". Instead of looking up directions and printing them out, and still possibly not know exactly where to go... I can hop in my car, pull up my calendar and literally touch phone twice to start navigating me to my destination.
Of course this won't apply to everyone, but I know it certainly helps me in my daily life.
Also just fyi, people aren't just containing about a few feet. A lot of roms have completely broken gps or gps that displays wrong location.
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Well for the reasons ^^^
And I'll put it this way. Lets say you have a car with 4 doors and u dont have many people ride in the back. Don't you still want your 2 rear windows to work?
Sent from the Drivers Seat of my Suby txting and Driving doing 100MPH+ in a school zone! Ha.

In many cases the GPS just locks up while driving somewhere. So it requires a reboot to get it going again...not cool at 70 MPH on the highway. The GPS on our phone takes the place of a Garmin or TOM TOM and is a very important feature for most of us when choosing a phone. For people that don't go anywhere unknown to them it is no big deal. I do AC work and go to 5-8 new places a day. Don't want to sit with a map trying to figure out where I am going.

Because when one lives in a major city, gps with real-time traffic reports is invaluable to have while trying to commute to and from work for example. Not a priority when you live in a small town and know all the roads and such.
Don't want to be like that one kid on the Verizon commercial who has a utility belt with 5-7 devices attached to it.
All-in-one is ideal.

The Root said:
Mine has made stupid mistakes that made me retrace an exit or 2, but i really can't say my regular gps has performed so perfectly.Not all map programs are create equal. Google maps have some of the worst routing IQs around and that is why it is free. You get what you pay for. TOMTOM has the best routing IQs and so is Garmen both of these program are not available for Android yet. But I heard TOMTOM is coming soon.
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The main reason I care is the location aware stuff. Knowing where you are is incredibly useful. Plus it *is* my only GPS device.

ghostrid3r said:
Because when one lives in a major city, gps with real-time traffic reports is invaluable to have while trying to commute to and from work for example.
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Thsi is the main reason I use my GPS.
Traffic around here can be a massive issue, and knowing where to avoid, can change what could have been an all day parking experience, into a 20min trip, simply by not getting stuck behind an accident that has the highway closed, with no way to exit

zman519 said:
Well for the reasons ^^^
And I'll put it this way. Lets say you have a car with 4 doors and u dont have many people ride in the back. Don't you still want your 2 rear windows to work?
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You hit the nail on the head!

Well, most location services work just fine without knowing EXACTLY where you are.
Other than the obvious that we don't need a reason, it should work, it can work, so when a rom comes out where it doesn't, we should fix that. The thing I use my phone for least is phone calls. That doesn't mean I should shrug my shoulders and go "oh well, I don't use it much" when I find out my phone doesn't actually ring for half my phone calls. (Ah HTC Hero, how I miss thee)
"mere feet" is a big deal while driving, even if that were the major complaint, which it isn't. (Sometimes it makes no attempts to talk to sats, other time it sees 3 but never locks. Other times it locks fine, but loses GPS at some point, never to return)
Mere feet in a big city can mean it not even knowing what road you're on, telling you to turn right 2 seconds after you passed your turn, and then not being narrowed in enough to realize it needs to reroute, until often times that route is now also moot.

kennyglass123 said:
In many cases the GPS just locks up while driving somewhere. So it requires a reboot to get it going again...not cool at 70 MPH on the highway. The GPS on our phone takes the place of a Garmin or TOM TOM and is a very important feature for most of us when choosing a phone. For people that don't go anywhere unknown to them it is no big deal. I do AC work and go to 5-8 new places a day. Don't want to sit with a map trying to figure out where I am going.
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Air Conditioning? If so me too lol
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kennyglass123 said:
In many cases the GPS just locks up while driving somewhere. So it requires a reboot to get it going again...not cool at 70 MPH on the highway. The GPS on our phone takes the place of a Garmin or TOM TOM and is a very important feature for most of us when choosing a phone. For people that don't go anywhere unknown to them it is no big deal. I do AC work and go to 5-8 new places a day. Don't want to sit with a map trying to figure out where I am going.
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I have had the same problem and did the reboot thing to get my gps back also - but what I have found that works for me and is better and faster than a reboot, YMMV, is that I turn on airplane mode and than I turn it off and doing so it relocks/finds my gps again - faster than a reboot - and yes, I have done it while I was driving, but hey no worse than dialing a phone number.

rgregg504 said:
Air Conditioning? If so me too lol
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Yup. AC/Heating plus plumbing and electrical when things are slow. I dunno AC tech in Florida...what was I thinking...LOL.

[Q] Damn GPS!

Hi ALL!
I have had webOS phone before and I was having identical problem like im having with i9250 now!
The GPS receiver is not functioning right. It has never worked %100 or %0. It struggles to find satellites and seems like working %20s
I have made some tests indoor near a window. (clear sky) It can not find any satellites from any indoor place near windows.
For the outdoor GPS receiver can find 8-9 satellites at signal rate of max %35. (GPS status app)
I have also made some test indoor with a Sony Xperia and Iphone 4s vs. Google Nexus. Both Sony and Apple can lock on a satellite without wifi/3g aid but nexus NOT!
I have made some search and see that some Google Nexus devices works great but some devices struggles.
There was no real fix with my webOS phone so I sold it. So my question? Is there a real way to fix this problem or is this my destiny?

secured-nor1 said:
Hi ALL!
I have had webOS phone before and I was having identical problem like im having with i9250 now!
The GPS receiver is not functioning right. It has never worked %100 or %0. It struggles to find satellites and seems like working %20s
I have made some tests indoor near a window. (clear sky) It can not find any satellites from any indoor place near windows.
For the outdoor GPS receiver can find 8-9 satellites at signal rate of max %35. (GPS status app)
I have also made some test indoor with a Sony Xperia and Iphone 4s vs. Google Nexus. Both Sony and Apple can lock on a satellite without wifi/3g aid but nexus NOT!
I have made some search and see that some Google Nexus devices works great but some devices struggles.
There was no real fix with my webOS phone so I sold it. So my question? Is there a real way to fix this problem or is this my destiny?
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Are you 100% stock?
Have you tried the GPS test apps in the market?
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I have that too, i just reset GPS data and download assistance every so often. It sucks my skyrocket and nexus 7 get it fine. Some days it is unusable for navigation.
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This is also a know issue with all Samsung devices
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Mine started having this problem after i came back from vacation..........................................
Time to send it in to Samsung i guess......

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I am %100 stock. I was having this problem with locked non-rooted 4.0.4 so ppl suggested my to update and i installed 4.2.1 with no success on the GPS. I tried almost every GPS test apps and tricks with no success. I am in a doubt that my nexus devices uses the same gps receiver like in my webOS device.

No matter if some other device manages to get a signal indoors its completely unreasonable to expect GPS to work indoors.
You're in a fixed location. Why would you even want it to? You don't know where you are?

With stock and ICS i had minor issues with locking on speeds and the direction of which way my phone was pointing compared to the arrow in maps. Generally locked on to 5-7 satellites.
When upgrading to 4.1, and now 4.2 (custom roms) I now lock on to 9-12 satellites in under 5 seconds using GPS status, map location, arrow direction and north are all excellent. My radio is also the latest.

Hemidroids said:
No matter if some other device manages to get a signal indoors its completely unreasonable to expect GPS to work indoors.
You're in a fixed location. Why would you even want it to? You don't know where you are?
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Yes I have been kidnapped and hidden in a building. If you are American and reading this message please call 911.
But I understand your statement. Yes there are completely unreasonable phones in the market.
And I wish an unreasonable phone to lock on a SAT at least near windows, not in the metro area nor in a garage or toilet.

gpfnzl said:
With stock and ICS i had minor issues with locking on speeds and the direction of which way my phone was pointing compared to the arrow in maps. Generally locked on to 5-7 satellites.
When upgrading to 4.1, and now 4.2 (custom roms) I now lock on to 9-12 satellites in under 5 seconds using GPS status, map location, arrow direction and north are all excellent. My radio is also the latest.
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Indoor or Outdoor?
Now I have tried a Galaxy SII(friends) with 6 lock on to satellites in a few seconds in the same place.
The question is why some nexus' and why me =) I am sure if I have chance to find another Nexus i9250 it may perform as good as Xperia/4S or S2 i tried but not some nexus. I bought this device 3 weeks ago and it is manufactured in August 2011.

secured-nor1 said:
Yes I have been kidnapped and hidden in a building. If you are American and reading this message please call 911.
But I understand your statement. Yes there are completely unreasonable phones in the market.
And I wish an unreasonable phone to lock on a SAT at least near windows, not in the metro area nor in a garage or toilet.
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Ok smartass
GPS are objects in celestial orbit with an output power well below the noise floor.
You have no hope of navigating indoors.
But since you seem to know it all........good luck jerk off.

Hemidroids said:
Ok smartass
GPS are objects in celestial orbit with an output power well below the noise floor.
You have no hope of navigating indoors.
But since you seem to know it all........good luck jerk off.
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Thank you hemoroid.

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Thank you hemoroid.
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Lol try flashing a galaxy nexus jellybean gps fix zip, google it or search xda, paranoid android had a gps fix in OP for their 2.99 beta 6 rom (i think) as it seems to be an issue with gnex and jellybean. When you find a suitable zip flash it in recovery. Good luck and hope it gets your gps fixed. I got mine working good its handy when at home to find local businesses via google and for other apps, as i am disabled so cant travel around looking for stuff, so i can understand why you want it fully functional. I heard that hirrudoid cream is good for hemaroids
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[Q] Google phone finder working with no GPS/SIM ??

Hi all,
long time lurker, first time poster. Back from the days of O2 Flame.
I've a HTC Desire HD thats been relegated to experimental status only.
The other day I had some flavour of Android 4.x running on it so I did an
experiment.
GPS was turned off, no sim card was in, it was configured to log into
Google Play or whatever automatically, location services were turned off
and I was inside my house so poor GPS, if any, reception and it was
connected to the Net via my Wifi/ADSL. I live in the boonies with only one
other Wifi nearby so crowd sourced wifi gps locations seems unlikely.
I went online to the Google phone finder or whatever it is called.
The service nailed my location within 5 or so seconds to
25 metres or so.
Can someone explain how it was to do this considering all the steps I
took to supposedly stop this from happening. I must admit I had quite
a few moments of Big Brother/1984 after this.
Many thanks.

If it might be able to scan for cell towers it could use that.
But i dont know if that'll be possible.

HanZie82 said:
If it might be able to scan for cell towers it could use that.
But i dont know if that'll be possible.
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Cool,
thanks for the reply HanZie82.
Was hoping for a bit more interest but at least I scored
some info.

Hmm.. I think it forces the GPS on without consent (my thoughts, no actual proof but just an idea) or it could USD cell/WiFi triangulation (again, not 100% sure but just an idea, although triangulation seems much more likely and viable)
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