GPS lag same on GSM versions as on CDMA? - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Question for owners of the GSM versions of the Touch Pro 2. Does your device have a GPS lag? I tried TomTom and iGo on both the Sprint and Verizon CDMA versions of the TouchPro2 and get an about 2 second lag - meaning, I pass an intersection and it takes 2 seconds before the cursor reaches that same intersection.

GermanGuy said:
Question for owners of the GSM versions of the Touch Pro 2. Does your device have a GPS lag? I tried TomTom and iGo on both the Sprint and Verizon CDMA versions of the TouchPro2 and get an about 2 second lag - meaning, I pass an intersection and it takes 2 seconds before the cursor reaches that same intersection.
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I have the GSM version of the phone and I am seeing some lag on TT7, there are some posts (quite a few) about lag on the TP2, some people don't get it, some do seems a bit of a lottery.
Some people are saying that different GPS software have lag and others don't, am trying to test Navigon at the moment but am having issues running the trial software properly
:-(

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'Radio' Lockup Issue - My take (And some good news..)

A few people have been having the same issue as me with more recent AKU3.* ROMs, wherein the radio features (GSM/UMTS,GPRS etc) - cease to function. Symptoms include the connectivity icons becoming non-responsive to stylus-press, and phone calls starting, but no call being made (silence) - and calls refusing to end.
This has been driving me nuts, and just when I think a new ROM (CE or Radio) has solved it, it re-appears. I have been playing around with everything I can to either diagnose, or solve this problem, and this is what I have found:
The phone only locks up, when handover between GSM and UMTS has occurred several times. I use the Hutchison 3 network in .au, and the coverage in Sydney is a bit spotty - hence the frequent handover to 'Roaming', and back again. Now that I have disabled the GSM functionality (i.e. just use UMTS, in the 'band' menu in 'Phone' settings) - I haven't had a single phone lockup.
To the other people having this issue: does this pattern of use sound familiar? I.e. is your main carrier UMTS, roaming to GSM? I'd like some feedback to see if we can isolate this, or if this solution works for other people
Hey
Had this problem many times with all kind of roms.
Usually the icons would react to clicks, but internet wouldn't work and also calling.
When I would turn on flight mode, the right icon (your reception) would change and gets a little cross (telling its disabled). But the left one would still be stuck on G/U as connected. It would take a min or 2 before it finally updates to a little cross saying its disabled. Then I can disable flight mode again and the phone would work (most of the time)
I live around 70 km from my work and I drive back and fort every day. In the car my universal is in the charger and I have always live messenger connected and AS for email.
during this trip my reception is lost twice, besides that it switches a couple of times from Umts to Gprs.
I've updated my phone to 1.14 radio en helmi 3.5 aku rom. And have experienced a couple of times what you discribed. The 3G and G/U icons wouldn't react to the stylus and the phone seems to be stuck. The device itself still works. But I have to soft reset to get it going again.
So after reading your story I can say this scenario refers to my experience.
I'm gonna try your solution from off today and let you know
I have only GPRS here and this problem happens to me with all AKU3.x versions even with different radios (1.09 -> 1.14.10) ... I still believe it has nothing to do with ONLY hand-over ... I reverted back to AKU2 and it never happened since then
Same here....
I have similar experiences with UMTS and GSM handover issues. I observed that sticking to one band (in my case GSM since it is more prevalent than the other in countries I go to!) is the way to go. When in M1, I got dropped problematic calls and my SMS were delayed but when I stuck to GSM only then everything was back to normal. I have been trying out the new Radio Rom 1.14.10 with Helmi AKU3.5 for 3 days now and am not having handover issues! Could be the Radio Rom or the Rom itself but if it acts up again then I know what to do then! Hope this helps!!!
The problem is in rilgsm.dll file.
I can tell that it is solved in crossbow.
mamaich said:
The problem is in rilgsm.dll file.
I can tell that it is solved in crossbow.
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would replacing the file in the current aku3 roms with an older one fix it?
i myself dont have the problem but allot of 3.2 wizard testers do.
Good to know, that I'm not the only one with this problem. I have seen this behaviour in all ROMs, not just the AKU3 and can confirm that it iseems to be related to the switchover between UMTS and GSM.
It also only seems to happen only when you have the internet connection open, which will always be the case when you use push-mail.
I had similar problems with the MDA III, whish I used before. Maybe it will get fixed in Crossbow - but by then we'll likely all have new phones.
^^
My internet connection is also always active. I have now switched from AUTO network to WCDMA (umts).
Going to see if this helps. After that I'll try the GSM band to see if it makes a difference
But it's something my device always had problems with, so I guess it's ROM independent
I'd like to see if that rilgsm.dll can be re-used. Unfortunately, the coverage of UMTS in the area where I live is far too spotty to be comfortable with pinning the radio band to UMTS.
However, I'm interested in your thoughts.
I must say that I agree with biso007. This problem started to occur when I upgraded to AKU3 roms. Before, I was on AKU2 with the exact same radio rom (I didn't flash it!) and never had any issue. Combined with mamaichs comment that it is related to a DLL file, I would say that the problem is indeed not related to a radio-ROM but to the AKU ROM.
Just my 2 cents....
I had same problems with Radio lockups on my UNIVERSAL. I've tried different ROMs with no luck. BUT after changing my Radio rom back to latest from T-mobile (1.10.03) everything back to normal- all day driving with GPRS on - no lockups at all!!! 100% solution is..... use old radio rom.
Would not mind downgrading...
I have lockup issues as well... if this really helps, I will downgrade the Radio ROM without hesitation. Where can I find thsi Radio ROM; is it on the xda-dev FTP site?
Thanks,
-Ireneus
Hi All!
Yes, this issue is the most annoying among all other issues, and it makes UNI impossible to use as the phone for business communications.
I confirm that lockup issue existed on EACH radio version I used and on EVERY ROM version.
I don't think this issue is caused by the GSM Band switch or Internet connection active or anything else specific, because this lockup happend even on networks with no 3G at all and no internet connection active and also BT and WiFi off.
It happens when I start intensivelly use my UNI for calls, sms, open contacts, view appointments (note: No 3-d party software at all).
I also mentioned that the issue happens more often with the battery level below 50% or so and almost rarelly happen on external power.
Another "good news" here is that if you receive an SMS during that intensive operations, you will permanently lose it after the phone lock up.
Thank you,
Dmitry.
I wonder is this is just a Universal issue? Or do other devices have the same issues; I mean as frequently as on the UNI.
If it is just the UNI than indeed it is useless as a phone and nothing more than a beeping, brick with a nice VGA screen. I basically fidn it hard to believe that this is the case and I would like to know if there is anyone out there, who does not have lock-up issues with the UNI and I would also like to know from the people who are testing Crossbow if the lock-ups still happen?
All input appreciated.
-Ireneus

Does the Vogue have GPS?

I thought I heard that the Vogue has GPS but is locked. Is this true?
The vogue does have GPS and it is locked. You can unlock it by flashing one of the newer ROMs or the kitchen from PPCKitchen.org. I heard DCD is working on an updated kitchen for the Vogue, but he hasn't released it yet.
just my 2cents here...i would not call it "locked", but "disabled" when purchased from Sprint. for the Sprint version there's the stock/leaked ROM that enables GPS and Rev A. as the poster above says, there's quite a few custom ROMs that also enable GPS and Rev A. GPS is not, however, locked to Sprint. don't know about the Telus folks, tho.
juiceppc said:
I thought I heard that the Vogue has GPS but is locked. Is this true?
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Until recently, there have not been any CDMA Touch's(Vogues) with GPS... The hardware is there, but the necessary software isn't.
Most carriers will be releasing an update, however they may not release GPS support. Telus, for example, is only promising Rev. A.
The good news is, yes, the hardware is there. There ARE a few custom roms available which do enable that feature.
I just flashed my Vogue with the sprint rom to update the radio and hardware, then I flashed it with OMJ's Bell rom, and now I have GPS, Rev A speeds and even the bluetooth file transfer is about 30kbps faster(getting 110-115 now as opposed to 75-80 before).
The rev. A speed is nice, internet seems snappy and responsive and I get about 900kbps max throughput.
Edit: forgot to mention, i'm running a Bell Touch that i bought in early december, 2007
I flashed a rom that was suppose to have rev a and gps, i dont seem to have it at all.
I've unlocked and installed one of the leaked ROM's and my GPS is working great, i'm just having problems with my camera, it isn't saving the pictures. It shows the counter decreasing but I can't find where the picture or video is, there isn't anything there.
But, GPS gets a good stable lock everytime and works great with TomTom Navigator and Google Maps.
SpudNuts said:
I've unlocked and installed one of the leaked ROM's and my GPS is working great, i'm just having problems with my camera, it isn't saving the pictures. It shows the counter decreasing but I can't find where the picture or video is, there isn't anything there.
But, GPS gets a good stable lock everytime and works great with TomTom Navigator and Google Maps.
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Search your micro sd card... your pictures should be in a folder named DCIM.
Is there anybody who knows if the HTC touch XL (elfin), (this is the name in france) is similar to vogue?
Is there a solution to verify if my HTC TOUCH elfin is CMDA or not????
commensal said:
Is there a solution to verify if my HTC TOUCH elfin is CMDA or not????
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What is the name of your carrier? Some carriers are GSM, some are CDMA. Someone will know which of the two networks your carrier is using (or you can make a quick call to customer service and ask). That's the simplest way.
Which carrier are you with? i can research this for you if I get the company's name.
Thanks a lot for your help. My carrier is ORANGE...
Your Touch uses GSM so I think you need to look in the Elf forum here if you have any questions.
Votre Touch utilise GSM, donc je pense vous devez chercher dans le forum d'Elf ici si vous avez des questions.
Ok, but my ELF have:
- memory 128Mo
- flash 256Mo
That's why i was thinking my phone was an ELFIN, not an ELF but i was hoping ELFIN was similar to vogue.
Is there any chance to have GPS in spite of it's not a vogue?
Yours is the enhanced version of the GSM Touch. Elfin is the Touch XL. It only means you have more ram and memory than the original GSM Touch. All the info you can find is over in the Elf forums. Sorry we couldn't help!
Yes i understand, in the ELF thread effectively, there are ELF and ELFIN mentionned...
GPS for VOGU
I have the VZW VOGU that I bought a couple weeks ago so I was wondering if I can get GPS on it. It seems like there is alot of back and forth and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt. If ya just let me know how and possibly where to get it that would be nice. Thanks
i have the telus htc touch, and after i installed a custom gps rom i still can't see how to use the gps... i tryed google maps and it says "seeking for satellites " and locks there 4ever, and with tomtom i can't choose internal gps.....any ideas of what to do or what ive done wrong?!!
You have to do specific steps. You need to install the leaked sprint rom to upgrade the radio and firmware, then you need to install your other(gps enabled) rom of choice, then the GPS will work.

Telus Vogue Update finally here!

So Aaron McCarthy discovered a new Vogue rom for Telus users (I REPEAT: TELUS ONLY!!!). It was at one of the known IP addresses which HTC has used. It was accidentally leaked or opened for a tester, I suppose. It's also seemingly no longer available... I get "Directory Listing Denied" when I follow the link now. So, of course I've uploaded my copy to rapidshare. Back up any important files on your phone and then enjoy:
http://rapidshare.com/files/1282900...4350H_3.41.00_Ship_withPPSTPatch1.20.exe.html
It'll be easy to install, just run the EXE on your windows XP/Vista computer, connect your vogue with Activesync or Windows Mobile Device Center when the program prompts you to do so, and follow the on-screen instructions. It took me approximately 15 minutes to do this. Add five for letting the phone customize itself.
I also did some messing with it to get everything working. It does not fully function out of box (which is probably why it's not actually released yet).
For me, the steps that got the GPS and Internet to work:
-Dial *22803 , 1 (for English), 1 (program your handset). Wait for reset.
-Install Google Maps and a registry editor.
-Search for a registry key called GPSMODE and change it's dword value from 2 to 4. This may not be necessary, but it worked for me.
<EDIT>Registry change is definitely not necessary, I've tried it both ways with no different effect. What this setting does might be explained better in the next post.</EDIT>
-Soft reset.
-Run Google Maps and any other freeware, no problem.
I'm certain that some GPS programs will require initialization/tweaks, and I'd bet that most of those have already been examined elsewhere in this forum. Anyway the GPS is seemingly solid and accurate. I placed it next to a handheld garmin unit and speed, lattitude,longitude were matched on both devices over a half-hour trip. It will certainly NOT work indoors.
As for Rev.A, I honestly cannot tell you anything about it. I'm in a CDMA only area for the next 3 weeks.
Thanks again to Aaron McCarthy for discovering the Rom and letting us know so that I could copy it before we got locked out. Here's the thread he started : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2385096
by setting GPSMode to 4 you disable the GPS. Not the best idea....
GPSMode 1 = ONLY pure GPS
GPSMode 2 = GPS + aGPS
GPSMode 4 = aGPS only
Got it installed without any issues. However Google maps and the Telus Navigator programs don't seem to be able to find the GPS... Well, to be more precise, googlemaps doesn't give an error. It just sits there seeking satellites. The Telus NAV doesn't get past the startup screen. Any suggestions?
WM6.1 is working fine on my phone but is it possible that I actually don't have the built in GPS even though it is a Telus HTC Touch?
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=31437
guardianfox said:
So Aaron McCarthy discovered a new Vogue rom for Telus users (I REPEAT: TELUS ONLY!!!). It was at one of the known IP addresses which HTC has used. It was accidentally leaked or opened for a tester, I suppose. It's also seemingly no longer available... I get "Directory Listing Denied" when I follow the link now. So, of course I've uploaded my copy to rapidshare. Back up any important files on your phone and then enjoy:
http://rapidshare.com/files/1282900...4350H_3.41.00_Ship_withPPSTPatch1.20.exe.html
It'll be easy to install, just run the EXE on your windows XP/Vista computer, connect your vogue with Activesync or Windows Mobile Device Center when the program prompts you to do so, and follow the on-screen instructions. It took me approximately 15 minutes to do this. Add five for letting the phone customize itself.
I also did some messing with it to get everything working. It does not fully function out of box (which is probably why it's not actually released yet).
For me, the steps that got the GPS and Internet to work:
-Dial *22803 , 1 (for English), 1 (program your handset). Wait for reset.
-Install Google Maps and a registry editor.
-Search for a registry key called GPSMODE and change it's dword value from 2 to 4. This may not be necessary, but it worked for me.
<EDIT>Registry change is definitely not necessary, I've tried it both ways with no different effect. What this setting does might be explained better in the next post.</EDIT>
-Soft reset.
-Run Google Maps and any other freeware, no problem.
I'm certain that some GPS programs will require initialization/tweaks, and I'd bet that most of those have already been examined elsewhere in this forum. Anyway the GPS is seemingly solid and accurate. I placed it next to a handheld garmin unit and speed, lattitude,longitude were matched on both devices over a half-hour trip. It will certainly NOT work indoors.
As for Rev.A, I honestly cannot tell you anything about it. I'm in a CDMA only area for the next 3 weeks.
Thanks again to Aaron McCarthy for discovering the Rom and letting us know so that I could copy it before we got locked out. Here's the thread he started : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2385096
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will this work on a non gps telus touch?
foxatphoenixlabs said:
will this work on a non gps telus touch?
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It has been known since a while that all Vogues phones (or CDMA Touch) have the GPS hardware built in. It is just not activated by Telus yet.
This new ROM should be released officially by Telus soon in order to let users have GPS and better performance.
uggh canadians
uggh canadians they actually have cell phones
in canuckville
instead of "can"ada it should be
cant be n.e. duh ber
smiles guys just a joke i got jokes.cum
Rev A
Has anyone else tested to see if Rev A gives better performance?
Also, does this ROM improve Bluetooth and device overall performance?
Dave
its there
the place holder is up.. we can expect the official, offical release soon
http://www.htc.com/us/FAQ_Detail.aspx?p_id=80&act=sd
Thanks for this ROM. Can't be more easy to upgrade a ROM.
GPS is working fine. It took several try and a very clear sky (no tree) to make first connexion. It was so slow to connect that I suspect AGPS (cellular tower triangulation assist) is not working.
At 3 bars of reception, in EVDO REV A zone, I get a DL speed of 150 to 400kb/s which is pretty lame and just a bit better than before rev A.
One problem:
When clicking on status icons on the top bar (volume, battery, etc.), it used to display the control directly. Now it displays an intermediate screen repeating those icons but in a larger mode. It is buggy because it doesn't display message icons if I previously clicked Dismiss. Then I can't go to my messages.
In Start, Settings, System, TouchFLO, there is no setting to remove this screen.
I tried HKLM->Software->HTC->EnlargeTitleBar->Enable=0 without success.
Is it something that comes with WM6.1?
Is it Telus ROM specific?
Do Sprint official ROM got the same problem?
Any reg to remove this?
That is too funny
513fabe said:
uggh canadians they actually have cell phones
in canuckville
instead of "can"ada it should be
cant be n.e. duh ber
smiles guys just a joke i got jokes.cum
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Must be a red neck.
Must be Prez Bush's aide.
Must be unemployed, his job went overseas.
Alll,,just a joke....then don't post stupid jokes red neck.
If you go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406320&page=2 and go to post #14 you can see the guide to improving GPS locks on the telus rom. I mean DRASTICALLY. From initally loading the rom I went from getting 4-5 locks maybe after a few minutes on a cold GPS start then once I changed all the settings and did a soft reset I was getting 6 to 7 satellite locks down in my basement. Pretty impressive
It's not as complicated as it seems to be in the post I made. Pretty straight forward actually and I would recommend it to anyone who wants better GPS reception
In regards to Rev A speeds. I'm in London ontario so would think there would be rev A in the area but I dont get any better download speeds. I still download around 600-800 kbps. Which is really good enough for me. I dont know if rev A actually was supposed to increase your download speed or if it improved upload speeds making Voip easier and allowing you to have data and phone stuff going on at the same time. All I know is my internet speed didnt change but Rev A was enabled.
Aaron McCarthy said:
If you go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406320&page=2 and go to post #14 you can see the guide to improving GPS locks on the telus rom. I mean DRASTICALLY. From initally loading the rom I went from getting 4-5 locks maybe after a few minutes on a cold GPS start then once I changed all the settings and did a soft reset I was getting 6 to 7 satellite locks down in my basement. Pretty impressive
It's not as complicated as it seems to be in the post I made. Pretty straight forward actually and I would recommend it to anyone who wants better GPS reception
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Every time, before using this, an already established data connexion is needed BEFORE looking for GPS satellite. The GPS will not establish the connection if it's not there. A simple solution is to open Google map and move the map up to a download is required BEFORE making the GPS satellite connexion.
513fabe said:
uggh canadians they actually have cell phones
in canuckville
instead of "can"ada it should be
cant be n.e. duh ber
smiles guys just a joke i got jokes.cum
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yes i am in canada and now my internet doesnt work. poop.
redNeck
sailor_dude said:
Must be a red neck.
Must be Prez Bush's aide.
Must be unemployed, his job went overseas.
Alll,,just a joke....then don't post stupid jokes red neck.
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thats why i wear my hair
long...to cover my redneck*(~
....................canada has a navy? is it kept together with maple syrup?
For as small as our arms forces are (navy, Army, airforce) we actually have some of the best trained soldiers the world and some of the best equipped. Little known fact No that it has anything to do with the phone!
Looks like the official Telus rom is on HTC's site now.
Yep - and it appears to be identical to the one referenced in this thread from 3 weeks ago. That's kind of a disappointment considering how much trouble the tech-naive user is going to have getting the gps to work and getting their data connection back after flashing.
Shrink said:
Yep - and it appears to be identical to the one referenced in this thread from 3 weeks ago. That's kind of a disappointment considering how much trouble the tech-naive user is going to have getting the gps to work and getting their data connection back after flashing.
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Very lame.
Exact same files and version. http://www.htc.com/us/FAQ_Detail.aspx?p_id=80&act=sd
2 weeks ago I sent a support ticket to HTC stating that the GPS fix is difficult to get, mainly because all GPS assisted features (aGPS) are disabled by default in the radio (can't be fixed by a simple registry tweak). I even pointed them to one solution of many (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406320&page=2 post #14). Then no correction and not even a mention in the documentation.
I just can't imagine how many phone calls they will get from upgraders complaining that the GPS can't find satellites after 5 minutes...

Problems with TomTom7 on Touch Pro 2

Hi, I see some threads that suggest TomTom 7 can be installed on a Touch Pro 2. I bought TomTom 7 on micro SD and it won't run. I get a message "Your device is not compatible with this version of TomTom NAVIGATOR!" Is there something simple that I am missing that is causing this. TomTom support were no help.
Offtopic: Why not ask your question in one of the threads you have found
Ontopic: Officially the TP2 is not supported at this moment. It will work, just ask Google
Hi PGLion.
I started a new thread because none of the other threads were actually about TomTom7 on the TP2, they just gave me hope!
On the ask Google suggestion, I may be a bit slow, but I have not found anything that helps me. If you have a link that you think will help, I'd be very grateful if you could post it.
TT7 on TP2
Hi,
Has anyone got TT7 working on TP2 yet? I've checked on google can't find a copy
Thanks.
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Hi,
Has anyone got TT7 working on TP2 yet?
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yes,
try >"7.910" "(9196)"< as search terms in google.
before installing that version you should also chek the reports of other users stating that after installation bluetooth stopped working.
You want "ttn7.915.9196.vga_black.cab"
Works fine.
In fact a quick google takes us to this very site:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=482075
Bluetooth still working fine for me.
Yes, TomTom7 DOES work on TouchPro2. I use it almost daily. It's very nice.
But it DOES cripple bluetooth (at least the build that I'm using). It replaces a couple of bluetooth drivers in your Windows directory that are incompatable (or so it appears).
If anyone's having issues with this, PM me. I'll find the thread (I think it was at PPCGeeks) that has instructions re: fixing it.
Trevor_g said:
Yes, TomTom7 DOES work on TouchPro2. I use it almost daily. It's very nice.
But it DOES cripple bluetooth (at least the build that I'm using). It replaces a couple of bluetooth drivers in your Windows directory that are incompatable (or so it appears).
If anyone's having issues with this, PM me. I'll find the thread (I think it was at PPCGeeks) that has instructions re: fixing it.
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To save looking - you will need to rename or delete the following dll files in the \windows directory:
\windows\BtSdkCE30.dll
\windows\BtCorelf.dll
Tomtom 7 on TP2
paraicbegley said:
Hi, I see some threads that suggest TomTom 7 can be installed on a Touch Pro 2. I bought TomTom 7 on micro SD and it won't run. I get a message "Your device is not compatible with this version of TomTom NAVIGATOR!" Is there something simple that I am missing that is causing this. TomTom support were no help.
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i too can confirm that TT7 works on TP2, might be best you use a software called cabinstl to install the cab file to your required location
The biggest problem I'm having is some serious GPS lag on my Verizon Touch Pro2 running TomTom (I've tried v6 and v7).
TOMTOM 7 install issues on Tilt 2
Has anyone had problems with the install going automatically to the device and not having enough memory to run?
Mine works, but I have a few issues. The physical keyboard doesn't work correctly (when I type, I get multiple non-english characters entered, but the on-screen keyboard is fine). The keyboard on my previous Tilt (original) worked fine with TT6. It also appears that there's no GPS: it shows reception of 0 satellites, yet it works fine. Seems way to accurate to be getting position from cell phone triangulation. Also, I'm using the "black VGA" map, but there appears to be an issue with POIs. Gas stations were shown on screen in completely undeveloped areas. Fortunately, I wasn't looking for gas.
TT7 (V7.915) working OK on my stock UK Vodafone (WM6.1) TP2 with no major lag or loss of any other features. Gets a lock fairly quickly (10-30 seconds).
Custom POIs are accurate and as expected.
Satellite reporting is behaving itself.
Hardware keyboard: Worked fine first go, then started printing double/foreign characters (eg: A gave A+A(Umlaut)), then back to OK after I went into soft keyboard settings and re-selected English. Exited TT, came back in and hardware keyboard seems OK still.
The only major issue I have is that TT sometimes crashes while loading ("We're sorry..." Windows error screen) and I have to turn the phone off/on to get TT going again.
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TomTom Navigator Display Problem on TP2

Hi everybody,
I searched the forum and couldn't readily find anything related to this problem.
I loaded EnergyROM_21885_RHODIUM_17.Dec.2009_Titanium.rar today on my new ATT Tilt 2. And then I loaded TomTom Navigator 6.x for the first time on the Tilt2 immediately after the ROM upgrade, so I have very little loaded on the Tilt2 except what came with the EnergyROM package.
I saw the exact same issue posted in an Xperia X1 forum: "The screen doesn't display properly. In portrait the TomTom screen only shows in the top half of the screen, and there are 3 screens showing up next to other, kind of overlaying each one like a deck of cards. In landscape they space out slightly better and the programme is useable, but still it looks terrible, and using the phone as a sat nav in landscape isnt exactly practical. Basically the tomtom display is coming in at like quarter size. Has anyone seen this or know of a fix or settings that can be played around with for it?" IN response, someone theorized: "I think because TT6 is made for devices 320 x 320 and 320 x 240. X1 has a wvga 800 x 480."
Anybody encountered this problem and have a fix? I hope there is an easy tweak for this. I've uninstalled/ reinstalled and soft reset to no avail.
I have a legal copy of TomTom and it's worked fine on 3 previous HTC Windows Mobile devices including my previous Fuze. TomTom tech support won't help because the TP2/Tilt2 is not on their approved list (nothing manufactured in the past 2-3 years is on the list.) I've seen talk of TomTom Navigator 7, but that must not be sold in North America and TomTom is phasing out any support whatsoever for TTN6 I'm told.
Thanks in advance for your help,
Dave
I got the following from TomTom Customer Support:
The Navigator 7 software has only been released in the European market. There are currently no plans to release this software in North America therefore,we are unable to offer support for Navigator 7 customers. We do apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.
For further assistance you are more than welcome to contact UK support. For contact information please click the link below:
tomtom.com/368
(I bought a copy through a UK website.)
yep all your previous HTC phones were supported screen wise. They do actually have an offical tomtom 7 out that supports our phone and you can use that however I dont think it will work with your maps. It only works with the newest maps availabe....
You'll have to upgrade if you want to use tomtom on your phone.
That said.. I'll throw you over some more information but it's not anything you cant find by searching google so I wont clog up the forums with it.
Check your private messages!
HELP !!!
i went to tomtom.com tp2 is nit supported so what do i do now i just dont want to get lost !! gees ? pm is Ok
I feel your pain...I have the same issue with my Tilt 2 with no solution @ this time. No other choice @ this time but to use AT&T Navigator.
Guys (or girls)... a simple search of "tomtom" in the Rhodium "themes, applications and software" subforum will give bring you this thread right at the TOP of the list.
New Tomtom 916.9189 Specifically for TP2 Released
That said... I believe this version only works with some of the newer maps... not the old tomtom 6 versions. Odds are if you are using those your maps are WAY out of date as it is.
I will add that it works perfectly with version 7 or 8 maps. I have been using it since I got my Tilt2 and love it. You will have to update the maps and then reactivate them.
The screen get off during TT navigation
Hello all
I am quite upset as I did not find any solution for weeks. TT7 works fine. Just one very disturbing stuff come up when call ending. Within one minutes the screen get of. All you know that during navigation incoming call interupt navigation screen while you accept the call. Then screen switch back to navigation mode. After hang up, the screen get black in one minute.
Any suggestion please???
Thanks in advance
TomTom Navigator fix for AT&T Tilt 2
I had the same problem as all of you have described with TomTom Navigator 6 not working on my new AT&T Tilt 2. The problem with TomTom Navigator 6 is that it will not support the higher resolution on the newer large screens. I got it to work on my Tilt 2 by installing WVGAFIX4. You can search for it on here on XDA. This app reduces the screen resolution so you can use TomTom Navigator. Make sure you have run this and selected one of the smaller resolutions before you install Navigator 6 on your phone. Sometimes on my Tilt 2 I have to do a soft reset to get it back to the original resolution. TomTom has abondoned us in the US and so far this is the only fix I have found to use Nav 6 on my new phone. Funny they came out with an IPhone app but left out all the windows mobile users.
joedh2 said:
I had the same problem as all of you have described with TomTom Navigator 6 not working on my new AT&T Tilt 2. The problem with TomTom Navigator 6 is that it will not support the higher resolution on the newer large screens. I got it to work on my Tilt 2 by installing WVGAFIX4. You can search for it on here on XDA. This app reduces the screen resolution so you can use TomTom Navigator. Make sure you have run this and selected one of the smaller resolutions before you install Navigator 6 on your phone. Sometimes on my Tilt 2 I have to do a soft reset to get it back to the original resolution. TomTom has abondoned us in the US and so far this is the only fix I have found to use Nav 6 on my new phone. Funny they came out with an IPhone app but left out all the windows mobile users.
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I take it you missed my post all together a few posts up?
Aaron McCarthy said:
Guys (or girls)... a simple search of "tomtom" in the Rhodium "themes, applications and software" subforum will give bring you this thread right at the TOP of the list.
New Tomtom 916.9189 Specifically for TP2 Released
That said... I believe this version only works with some of the newer maps... not the old tomtom 6 versions. Odds are if you are using those your maps are WAY out of date as it is.
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Now if you mean so that your super old maps still work.. Yes you'd be stuck with the old tomtom... OR you can just get the newer tomtom and buy the updated maps (as I'm sure roads have changed since the tomtom 6 maps were released years and years ago) or heaven forbid do a search on google and find out where else you can get maps.

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