Disappointed with the Touch Pro 2 - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

I currently have the ATT Fuze. Like many of us on ATT, I have been waiting impatiently for the Touch Pro 2. I decided to jump ship and get the Touch Pro 2 from Sprint. After 3 days with the device, I decided to return it.
Here are some of the issues:
The GPS lag is still there - Come on, this is what bothered me most on the Fuze; it is not as bad on the Touch Pro 2, but you still have a 2 second lag. I don't get it. My ATT Tilt performed better than both the TP and TP2 in that regard.
The device feels slow - not very snappy as I hoped it would be.
Program/Tweaks incompatibility - Many Tweaks that work on the TP do not work on the TP2 - Phoenalarm, Sashimi etc.
Maybe I expected too much, but I feel I have been let down by HTC. Of course, it is possible that some of these issues are related to the Sprint network, but I really expected more from the TP2.
Once the TP2 comes out on ATT, it will already be outdated - see HTC Leo.
I think at this point, I will have a closer look at the Samsung Omnia 2 when it comes out on Verizon, but I will skip the TP2.

i dont care gps,htc pro2 has damn bigger screen than your fuze,the pretty girl looks so real in pro2
my XXXXX counts on pro2..........
Please keep the forum clean language

nokiadashi said:
i dont care gps,htc pro2 has damn bigger screen than your fuze,the pretty girl looks so real in pro2
my XXXXX counts on pro2..........
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You have some serious issues.
To the OP:
HTC has been known to not put high end processors on their devices. As far as i know, the Sprint version of the TP2 has some issues with the "Sprint" software.But all in all, this device completly obliterates the fuze by a large margin.

I like how both the replies had to be edited for language haha

GermanGuy said:
I currently have the ATT Fuze. Like many of us on ATT, I have been waiting impatiently for the Touch Pro 2. I decided to jump ship and get the Touch Pro 2 from Sprint. After 3 days with the device, I decided to return it.
Here are some of the issues:
The GPS lag is still there - Come on, this is what bothered me most on the Fuze; it is not as bad on the Touch Pro 2, but you still have a 2 second lag. I don't get it. My ATT Tilt performed better than both the TP and TP2 in that regard.
The device feels slow - not very snappy as I hoped it would be.
Program/Tweaks incompatibility - Many Tweaks that work on the TP do not work on the TP2 - Phoenalarm, Sashimi etc.
Maybe I expected too much, but I feel I have been let down by HTC. Of course, it is possible that some of these issues are related to the Sprint network, but I really expected more from the TP2.
Once the TP2 comes out on ATT, it will already be outdated - see HTC Leo.
I think at this point, I will have a closer look at the Samsung Omnia 2 when it comes out on Verizon, but I will skip the TP2.
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I have no lag, my phone is snappier than any phone in existence in the US right now, Sashimi works fine, and I have never used Phone Alarm. I'm sorry yours was broken...

I thinki there must be a quality control issue at htc.. because i have a sprint touch pro2 and my phone is faster than my pro 1 in every aspect. its 10x faster and i never had any problems with software incompatability with the exception of manila tweaks which is expected being this is a new version of tf3d. I feel like some people get duds and some get lucky like myself and get great devices

I ended up buying a Verizon TP2 after I returned the Sprint one. I received it yersterday and so far I have been very happy. Snappy, loud, great voice quality. Either I had a defective unit or the problems were due to Sprint bloatware modifications or the Sprint network is just lousy in Minneapolis.

The Fuze was the biggest turd, even with different ROMs running TF3D was horrible experience.
The Verizon GPS has little or no lag so it must be a Sprint issue.

The Rhodium is a good Smartphone, not perfect but better that it's old model, the one that he replaces.

My experience was the total opposite. I waited for the verizon tp2 forever, when i ordered it, vzw told me that only my main line on my family account could get the upgrade price. that pissed me off, since my wife also needed a new smartphone since we are both realtors. vzw only worked in half of my house, the othe were dead zones. i called up sprint, they sent me this phone, a palm pre and about 250 dollars off with prepaid visa cards and service rebates to offset the price difference. once i got the phones, i have total service now in my house, couldnt be happier. im located in san diego.

Nagrom Nniuq said:
I have no lag, my phone is snappier than any phone in existence in the US right now, Sashimi works fine, and I have never used Phone Alarm. I'm sorry yours was broken...
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Best WM phone I ever had, but then again I had the Wing. Besides it being a little slow and the freezing that occured from flipping the keyboard open/close it was an OK phone.

GermanGuy said:
I ended up buying a Verizon TP2 after I returned the Sprint one. I received it yersterday and so far I have been very happy. Snappy, loud, great voice quality. Either I had a defective unit or the problems were due to Sprint bloatware modifications or the Sprint network is just lousy in Minneapolis.
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While Sprint's network in the Twin Cities area is pretty bad, I'd be more likely to blame their software.

Black Phoenix said:
The Rhodium is a good Smartphone, not perfect but better that it's old model, the one that he replaces.
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Rhodium is good if your coming from a kaiser. The only upgrade from the TP is the screen.
dezoris said:
The Fuze was the biggest turd, even with different ROMs running TF3D was horrible experience.
The Verizon GPS has little or no lag so it must be a Sprint issue.
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HA yeah it is very slow. Everything lags a bit
Nagrom Nniuq said:
I have no lag, my phone is snappier than any phone in existence in the US right now, Sashimi works fine, and I have never used Phone Alarm. I'm sorry yours was broken...
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You are crazy, Iphone 3gs has much more horsepower under the hood.
ANSwer to all your replies should start and end with the same reasoning. IT HAS THE SAME CHIPSET FROM FROM THE TP AND RUNNING ON 528mhz. HTC has used the same chipset for the last 3 years.

My T-Mobile TP2 has the worst signal strength of any phone I have had in the last few years.. It does not work at my house, drops calls while driving and always has 2 bars less than my Mytouch..
I thought it was the phone but I had the phone exchanged and the new one is the same.
I wish it worked better, I love everything else about it, but if it does not work at my house it is worthless...

Give it time
Give it some time. You are just paying an early adopters fee. Once the ROM guys get it open and start working on it it will be become a much better phone. GPS taking a few seconds to get a lock is practically instantaneous. Mine does seem a little laggy, but I can blame that on bloatware. Most all of the problems I've had were software related. Like the visual voicemail taking two days to let me know I got a message, and the SMS freaking out.
Have faith young Jedi.

GPS lag is negligible after doing the GPS Tweaks on here + radio update to 4.xxxx. Use TomTom almost daily now, love it!

mtanous said:
My experience was the total opposite. I waited for the verizon tp2 forever, when i ordered it, vzw told me that only my main line on my family account could get the upgrade price. that pissed me off, since my wife also needed a new smartphone since we are both realtors. vzw only worked in half of my house, the othe were dead zones. i called up sprint, they sent me this phone, a palm pre and about 250 dollars off with prepaid visa cards and service rebates to offset the price difference. once i got the phones, i have total service now in my house, couldnt be happier. im located in san diego.
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I'm surprised Sprint worked inyour house and VZW didn't.

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What will be the phone that makes you give up your Dash?

Title explains it all. For me it will probably be the G2 (on T-Mobile in the US I presume). I want some 3g goodness.
whoispaulallen said:
Title explains it all. For me it will probably be the G2 (on T-Mobile in the US I presume). I want some 3g goodness.
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HTC Maple/3G excalibur/Dash 2 for me. Eventually that will be the phone that I get. Is gonna be windows based,the question is wether it will be wm 6.5 or 7.0.
roloracer said:
HTC Maple/3G excalibur/Dash 2 for me. Eventually that will be the phone that I get. Is gonna be windows based,the question is wether it will be wm 6.5 or 7.0.
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Whens that coming out?? i think i may sell my dash and get an unlocked att tilt i have a wing but the tilt is faster and its 3g
crackzattic said:
Whens that coming out?? i think i may sell my dash and get an unlocked att tilt i have a wing but the tilt is faster and its 3g
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HTC just release photos of their 09 phone lineup, dates haven't been said or who's carrying which phone. I just hope for tmobile to pick up the dash2, it would be dumb of them not to ,considering there the ones that carry the dash.
check this for the link to the report. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3290798&postcount=12
Probably the Touch Pro 2. I think it's time I moved on from smartphones.
either the dash 2 or the curve 8900
gave it up for a touch pro....gave that up for a g1...
honestly, i would have given it up for a 1st gen nokia from 1990. the battery issue and what not just got old..i was sick of having a phone that would randomly work, or eat batteries etc...
lol i remember playing snake for hours on that beast!
I think I´ll never give up to my Exaclibur, it will be here!
But I would love to buy the upcoming HTC Rhodium or the Topuch pro II !!
if the dash2 comes to t-mo, with 3g. otherwise, the g2 if it's nice looking/easy exchange support
Given up for Tilt, still use the Dash as second phone but doesn't do much anymore..........
It would have to be the Dash 2, otherwise I don't really see any phones that catch my interest right now. I've been pretty happy with my dash.
Maple
Yeah - I still prefer the keypad over the full touchscreen, and the sliders are too bulky, so if the Maple is on TMo 3G and has a MUCH better camera than the Dash then I will get it. I mean really - is it too much to ask to have at least 3 megapixels with decent pic quality on your phone? Sony knows how to do it!
I also hate that there are no HSPDA 3G phones that work for both AT&T and TMo 3G data. What's the point of having unlocked phones if you can't do 3G on both networks?
For me the phone has to have great voice quality (Dash does) and let me type lots of large emails and notes quickly (Dash does). I really want it to sync with my mail server and browse Internet sites quickly (Dash doesn't) and take decent pics (Dash seriously doesn't). Being able to switch from AT&T 3G to TMo 3G would be really perfect.
I second this also i hope it has a scroll wheel or something like that.. and proper volume control otherwise im happy wit my excaliber
I got to say I'm pretty happy with my dash for now. So I figure by the time the dash 2 comes out, price drops a little ( under 400 bucks ) The masters of XDA come out with some sick tweaks and roms, then I'll get mine.
HTC Magic!

Time to move along from the Dash?!?

Hey, guys. Been reading the "Excalibur" forum for quite awhile now. Really great stuff. Thanks!
So... I have some moula to get a phone, and I'm kicking my options around. My Dash, while currently fine with the Ookba WM6.5 ROM, is feeling pretty long in the tooth. Probably a good time to kick this over to my wife and get myself something new. But what to get? I'm sticking with T-Mobile, so no question there.
Here are my thoughts...
- T-Mobile MyTouch 3G and extend my contract an additional two years
- HTC Fuze (used) and load the latest XDA rom
- HTC Diamond (used) and load the latest XDA rom
- something else???
Not sure if I'm really stoked on the Android world, but the Hero-based ROMs coming outta XDA look pretty sweet. Upcoming Exchange support is a must as well. Otherwise, are the Fuze and Diamond phones as sweet as they look? Any other suggestions??
Thanks,
Yip
Why not the Touch Pro2 with all it's 3G goodness when it comes out in August?
since you said tmobile, my choice would be the G1 with the keyboard.
yipcanjo said:
Probably a good time to kick this over to my wife and get myself something new.
Yip
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very funny, lol.
time to move on???? time to upgrade!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534794
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Why not the Touch Pro2 with all it's 3G goodness when it comes out in August?
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I agree 100%.
The HTC Touch Pro2 is set to be released by T-Mobile on August 12th in the US.
This is going to be one bad-ass phone. Of course, it will (I believe) come with WM6.1 stock, from the factory.
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Why not the Touch Pro2 with all it's 3G goodness when it comes out in August?
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I've thought about that, of course, and the Touch Pro 2 is *amazing*, but I'm guessing it'll be about $399 on contract, or so, which is out of my range. I'm hoping to spend about $200.
Anyone here have the Fuze or Diamond? Are those phones pretty great?
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I've thought about that, of course, and the Touch Pro 2 is *amazing*, but I'm guessing it'll be about $399 on contract, or so, which is out of my range. I'm hoping to spend about $200.
Anyone here have the Fuze or Diamond? Are those phones pretty great?
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Just hop over to Fuze section look @ the ROMs etc
Same goes for anything in your price bracket give you an idea of what can be acomplished
TP2 would defo be my choice
Mine too: TP2
But long live to Excalibur!!
I appreciate your input, guys. I both *love* and *loathe* trying to figure stuff like this out...
So, it looks like about $220 is really my limit, unfortunately, which probably leaves me either choosing a myTouch 3G or a (used) Fuze. Do warranties carry over with used phones?
It'd be easier to decide on the myTouch phone if T-Mobile would come clean on the *actual* Exchange Support they'll offer, but they're being unnecessarily coy on the topic. Also, I really wish that myTouch came with the higher (288megs) of RAM, but it doesn't appear to I would love to get a copy of the SenseUI running on that sucker!
Anyhow.... myTouch 3G vs. Fuze. Thoughts? Pros/cons??
it was mentioned once before, why not the dash 3g?
my thoughts are to stick with a WM phone, i strayed a little and did not like it
skaroger867 said:
it was mentioned once before, why not the dash 3g?
my thoughts are to stick with a WM phone, i strayed a little and did not like it
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The Dash 3G is ok, but I'm a bit miffed at the *lack* of real upgrade as compared to the original Dash! Same screen size/resolution, low-rez camera w/ no flash, and no touchable screen. It's faster, of course, and with 3G speeds, but otherwise a pretty minimal update. Also, T-Mobile has priced the phone TOO high. It should be $99 at most, but they're asking $169 w/ two year contract.
Not well done, in my opinion.
So... I finally had some "hands on" time with both the Fuze and the myTouch 3G. There is a LOT to be said for actually having/using the device in your hands, ya know?
FUZE
I'm hoping that the stock ROM is well-known to be really poor on this phone, because it was embarassingly bad to use. It was extremely sluggish (even after a reboot) and I had a lot of miss hits while trying to choose or open things. Do the WM6.5 ROMs for the Fuze improve upon the usability a lot? I would certainly hope so. In-store, the Fuze was a big disappointment.
myTouch 3G
Our local T-Mobile shop had one of these to check out. Actually, it was an employees personal phone that he let me look at (which was slightly awkward, but whatever). I've had quite a bit of time with the G1, and the myTouch was significantly smaller and more comfortable in my hand. The on-screen keyboard takes getting used to, but overall the phone seemed responsive and attractive. A nice device!
So... I'm still torn, but leaning toward the myTouch

HTC Touch Pro 2 = Fail?

I think so and I will tell you why. I have been following this phone since it was announced long ago. I to have been a proud HTC device owner but these days I am not so proud anymore.
I am a Windows Mobile fan. Currently I am using my old trusty or not so trusty these days HTC Kaiser/TYTN2. I became a big fan of the tilt feature. I am a tmobile user so back when the Kaiser was released not having 3g bands was not an issue because tmobile did not have 3g. I bought the Euro version and paid top dollar.
Since then its been hacked and modded to reduce glitches and increase speed but lets face it. The keyboard is worn and almost all keys require a super hard press due to wear and tear. Also the screen is tiny by todays standards. I didnt buy the Euro version of the TP2 because I live in the US and 3g is now an issue. So I waited for the tmobile release now confirmed for aug 12th. Right around the corner!
Those of you who didn't wait seem to be reporting endless bugs and glitches not to mention hardware problems. It is driving me nuts to the point that I am shying away from the TP2 hype. I have been following all the TP2 threads here and its bads news after bad news. Very different from when you all 1st got it.
Please someone speak some positive stuff otherwise I may end up holding onto my Kaiser for another year. Final rant.....the specs could be better. Damn Iphoney has an 800mhz processor and HTC just holds back!
I absolutely love it. I have not one problem with it, except for the battery door. I had to modify it a little but know its fine. Out of the 4 HTC phones I have owned, I think this is the best by far. Good luck with your findings.
Although I won't argue with you, the touch pro2 is a great phone for what it's intended for which is business users. It is lacking a bit hardware wise for multimedia and gaming, since it pretty much has the same processor and memory as its predecessor. It is for this reason that I am still trying to decide between the TP2 and samsung omnia II since it has the faster processor and beautiful AMOLED screen. So if you are shying away from the TP2 I would recommend the omnia II or the omnia pro (has hardware keyboard). Even though it annoyingly lacks a built in stylus (but thats just me).
The Great Malaki said:
The keyboard is worn and almost all keys require a super hard press due to wear and tear.
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Its probably not wear and tear. Its the same thing that happens with TV remotes. Over time, the oils from your fingers seep through the buttons and interfere with the contacts. If you were to take the keyboard appart and wipe down the contacts, no garauntee, but I bet it would work like new.
i think most of the problems people have (including myself) on their TP2 is 3rd party softwares imcompatable to the new UI on TP2. hope HTC will offer an update for TP2 sooner than September.
if you turn away from it for Samsung OmniaHD, make sure buy it from a local Samsung stores or from your mobile operator. i've been in a deep problem trying to get my Omnia i900 fixed. i bought my i900 from an idiot ebay seller named Cutrategoods70. when my i900 bricked from a firmware update, i tried to contact that idiot, never get a reply. i emailed SS service center in UK (coz SS US & Canada never heard of this model), thay told me to send to them. 5 weeks later they sent it back & said they not support "foreign unit". emailed SS Singapore & Malaysia, they said the same thing. Becareful when you buy a Samsung on ebay or internet stores
good luck for you finding the right device
I think is totally normal to see so many posts about defects / bugs. Usually, peoples who post threads here need help with something. If everyone posted a thread about "Everything's fine with my TP2" when their TP2 is working flawlessly ... well... it would be pretty useless to do that.
Think about it : it's normal to find broken cars in a car dealer's garage. It doesn't mean the car model is crap.
I second that. You will normally see threads asking how to improve things or how to fix things.
Most of the posts here are when people need something, find something that they think could help others, and that's about it. The closest thing you can find to general chat would be the speculation on future support or release dates.
In forums for my last phone you saw threads on how to fix things, and for new software made for it (as a closed platform it had to be hacked and forums where the few places you could get software for the OS, unlike Winmo).
If you'll notice many of the threads are duplicates, and some of the complaints are somewhat invalid as the phone was never designed to do X thing (a prime example are the complaints that the Euro version doesn't support North American 3G bands.
Every phone will have defects and problems unless it's a very well built dumb phone. The question is, just how many people are having said problems, and out of how many satisfied customers without those problems?
Like vakbrain said, you're not going to find a new thread singing the praises of the phone from every person who is happy with it. It'd be extremely tedious, boring, and space consuming.
I love my TP2. I bought it SIM-free so it was quite an investment of cash, but I think it was worth every penny. It has the odd glitch here and there, but then so does any piece of complex modern equipment. I'd fully recommend it without any hesitation at all.
I think my TP2 is great! Ive alerady installed some handy apps to it. Havent had any issues with the device itself really, more like things relating to it. Finding a Good belt clip case for it seems to be a challenge, and Finnic isnt finished yet, so it runs like crap. I would have liked to have a 3.5mm jack on it, but im dealing with the adapter. I do wish TouchFlo had its own Slide to Unlock on it, but meh. i have s2u2 for the moment.
Lyian said:
I think my TP2 is great! Ive alerady installed some handy apps to it. Havent had any issues with the device itself really, more like things relating to it. Finding a Good belt clip case for it seems to be a challenge, and Finnic isnt finished yet, so it runs like crap. I would have liked to have a 3.5mm jack on it, but im dealing with the adapter. I do wish TouchFlo had its own Slide to Unlock on it, but meh. i have s2u2 for the moment.
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hi Lyian, could you please tell me does s2u2 work ok on yours?
i installed the WQVGA v2.04, it doesn't look right to me since everything so small & sticking together. VGA version look normal on my screen. other thing is when i set On Battery Power>Blank Screen on Talk, it works once, try the 2nd time the screen off then back on again. any idea to config it right?
thanks
I am using S2U2 on mine and it works fine. I am using the VGA version and it's flawless.
I love my Pro2!! no problems at all!!
One big difference
Hi all
Thought I'd add a comment.
The one big difference between my Touch Pro2 and every other HTC phone is that the TP2 works extremely well out of the box and while some people are annoyed with all the bundled software (i.e. M3D and it's incalculable extensions) I actually think that this makes is a better device and would rather have more of this than less.
The point is: It does everything I want it to almost out of the box. This has not been the case with any other HTC device I have owned/used.
Best wishes
andrew-in-woking
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I think is totally normal to see so many posts about defects / bugs. Usually, peoples who post threads here need help with something. If everyone posted a thread about "Everything's fine with my TP2" when their TP2 is working flawlessly ... well... it would be pretty useless to do that.
Think about it : it's normal to find broken cars in a car dealer's garage. It doesn't mean the car model is crap.
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Thank you. I'm waiting for it to come out (couple weeks near me). Can't wait, watched plenty of unboxing videos and walkthroughs. *fist pump* Im ready lol.
sakshaug007 said:
Although I won't argue with you, the touch pro2 is a great phone for what it's intended for which is business users. It is lacking a bit hardware wise for multimedia and gaming, since it pretty much has the same processor and memory as its predecessor. It is for this reason that I am still trying to decide between the TP2 and samsung omnia II since it has the faster processor and beautiful AMOLED screen. So if you are shying away from the TP2 I would recommend the omnia II or the omnia pro (has hardware keyboard). Even though it annoyingly lacks a built in stylus (but thats just me).
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I wouldn't recommend the OMNIA II or PRO because they have only 137MB of RAM. That's hardly enough to run any software. I was really looking forward to the new OMNIA phones but it's a big disappointment with the lack of ram. I do admit other specs on the phone looks great but without the right amount of ram, the phone is very limited.
No Fail
Had my TP2 for just over a week now, so still getting used to it but I've had absolutely NO issues with it, so far it has surpassed my expectations. It seems fast, responsive and I like the functionality.
The guys who point out that people write in to forums with problems are absolutely correct. People don't just write in to say "I love it" most people here seem to be advanced users, happy to tweak and hack their phones to get that extra 10% out of them.
I'm a business user, I don't anticipate playing many games (that's what the DS/PSP etc. are for) and as a business user I think this phone rocks!
My anti-fail 2c!
No problems at all with mine. Very impressed, kicks my TP's ass in every department except LED flash.
Brilliant phone, top marks to TF3d too.
Well, I haven't gotten a TP2 yet - still waiting for AT&T to release theirs - in the meantime I'm living with my 2.5 year old Virgin Mobile USA prepaid phone, but ready to make the leap to a contract.
What I can say is that the phenomenon where everyone writes in to a forum (especially a big one like XDA) about their issues makes the problems seem much worse than they actually are. For every person posting here about a problem there are at least 2 more that have had NO problem and wouldn't even think of coming to an online forum to solve issues with their phone.
For example, I bought an Asus EeePC last fall, and went to the premier EeePC forum at the time to see what others were saying - it sounded depressing too! Everyone with issues. Then I realized that A) people wouldn't go to a forum to solve a problem if they didn't love the device and wanted to keep it, they'd just get rid of it if they didn't like it, and B) the people who come to forums are device tweakers who must have things just so (I'm one of them too) and thus are looking for feedback regarding their particular pet peeve or issue caused by the one program they just MUST use. People complained about cracks in the hardware, or messed up keyboards, or whatever, but I've thrown my EeePC 1000H in and out of airports plenty of months and it has yet to be less than 100% satisfying, other than the $150 drop in price over when I bought it 10 months ago!
So, what I'm saying is, this is a phenomenon unique to the interwebz and electronics junkies in general, so don't be discouraged by all the negatives around here, in the end we're all just questing to make an amazing device even closer to perfect.
andrew-in-woking said:
Hi all
Thought I'd add a comment.
The one big difference between my Touch Pro2 and every other HTC phone is that the TP2 works extremely well out of the box and while some people are annoyed with all the bundled software (i.e. M3D and it's incalculable extensions) I actually think that this makes is a better device and would rather have more of this than less.
The point is: It does everything I want it to almost out of the box. This has not been the case with any other HTC device I have owned/used.
Best wishes
andrew-in-woking
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I must agree with Andrew. I own about 15 HTC phones, starting with the Wallaby, back in 2002. When I unboxed my TP2, I immediately thought 'what do I have to modify now?'. But it worked perfectly out of the box and i havent modified anything. I only installed my connection and Coreplayer... Simply good.
One flaw however is the resolution, which is incompatible with some of my software. But those titles are not vital for me.
So, now I am waiting for the next big hit... HTC SUPERSTAR...where are you??????
henh said:
hi Lyian, could you please tell me does s2u2 work ok on yours?
i installed the WQVGA v2.04, it doesn't look right to me since everything so small & sticking together. VGA version look normal on my screen. other thing is when i set On Battery Power>Blank Screen on Talk, it works once, try the 2nd time the screen off then back on again. any idea to config it right?
thanks
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The WQVGA is the wrong version for the TP2, you want the VGA version (WQVGA is for smaller resolution phones like the Tilt)
I would say it does work 'ok' on mine. I do have an issue with it here and there that i wont go into here, but for the most part, it doest what i want it to, which is, to keep me from accidentally calling people lol.
OP needs to stop worrying, TP2 is a fantastic device and also get off the apple hype bs, iPhone doesn't have an 800mhz processor lol, more like around 600 for the 3GS, even less for the 3G.

Did Anybody Even Buy The HTC Arrive???

i havent seen any threads posted or anything here whats going on? did u sprint guys pass on the arrive or something?
I will probably get one off contract this week. Not a fan of the form factor, but I need to replace my Diamond ASAP.
Not on Sprint.
I ordered. Looking at other forums it appears that instore stock at most stores was very limited. No best Buys or Radio Shacks carried it. Amazon and Wirefly had it cheaper, but it wont be here until wednesday.
I got one on Sat 3/20, pretty neat so far. I catch myself using my old WebOS gestures sometimes.
I got one today (3/21) Had carried an EVO since day one. still have both. so far so good. the biggest reason Im most likely gonna keep the arrive is the zune player and zune pass.
I posted this review on sprintusers.com:
I came from the Hero running the latest official ROM (Android 2.1 I believe). I've actually extensively played around with WP7 prior to this so I'm very familiar with the OS. IMO there is no comparison between the two devices. It had gotten to the point where I didn't use my Hero for anything other than phone calls and SMS becaues it was so slow. And it wasn't as if I had a bunch of stuff loaded onto it. Even after hard-resetting and only loading absolute essentials (such as Exchange data) it was still SLOOOOW. (lags to switch between screens, pull up menus, open SMS, etc.)
The Arrive on the other hand is lightning quick for the things I want it to do. It loads apps very quickly and never seems to bog down. I've managed to load two exchange accounts as well as several GB of music and videos, sync with FB, etc., and it's still fast. Fast to make phone calls, fast to SMS, fast to load apps. As I said, I have extensively played around with WP7 (was able to borrow a friend's HD7 for several days) so none of this is a suprise to me. Software-wise it delivers exactly as I thought it would.
Comparing the hardware to the HD7 has been interesting. I thought I would find the screen too small on the Arrive but it actually seems to be ok. Definitely smaller than the HD7 (obviously) but not so small as to be a deal-breaker. The biggest surprise has been the quality of the screens between the two. The HD7 colors are very washed out and the screen in general is kind of "meh". The Arrive screen though, really POPS. Colors are nice and saturated and the screen in general seems sharper. My friend who owns the HD7 agreed during a side-by-side comparison. As far as weight, it is noticeably heavier than the HD7. However I think the Arrive feels higher-end than the HD7, even though there is a lot of plastic in both. I can't put my finger on it-- maybe because it's more dense, i.e. more mass in a smaller package, it just seems more substantial.
The keyboard is a pleasure to use-- I have not had a physical keyboard since my HTC Apache back in '06 (!) and I realize now what I have been missing. Very easy to type, intuitive key placement, and good tactile feedback.
All in all I'm very satisfied with the phone. The limitations of the OS have been discussed ad nauseum elsewhere, but as long as you are ok with those limitations you won't be disappointed.
-R
my friend is picking his up today from wirefly
he has been wanting a windows phone since seeing my hd7 and dell venue pro. He likes it already and it's not even here
that said
battery life?
If only it has AT&T/T-Mo's US 3G, =(
i went to 3 sprint stores near my neighborhood, all sold out...
theclueless said:
i went to 3 sprint stores near my neighborhood, all sold out...
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you mean they didn't order any?
orangekid said:
you mean they didn't order any?
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Haha. Im assuming your right
Well the Arrive/7 Pro has it's own Forum section at the verrrrrry bottom of XDA. Most of the posts are there.
I bought one for myself and one for my wife. I am really digging it, there are obviously some things that is missing, but the overall responsiveness and "just works" is great.
i just got mine and i've been trying to activate it for a while..being stubborn...
ms79723 said:
i just got mine and i've been trying to activate it for a while..being stubborn...
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If it won't connect to sprint network/activate, go into your settings-->Cellular--> Change Network Profile/Update PRL.
I had to this on mine after the Sprint store activated it because it would not make phone calls/connect to the internet. My wife who got her activated at the same time by the same person did not have to do this.
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you mean they didn't order any?
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That coming from a T-mobile user who in a year will have to buy an ATT Phone
cyclical said:
If it won't connect to sprint network/activate, go into your settings-->Cellular--> Change Network Profile/Update PRL.
I had to this on mine after the Sprint store activated it because it would not make phone calls/connect to the internet. My wife who got her activated at the same time by the same person did not have to do this.
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yeah, that worked. i stumbled upon that a little after posting my last comment and 10 seconds after stumbling upon it, the person from sprint told me to do it.
All I can say about this phone is that this sht is immaculate!
Got mine sat. And I love it, was coming from the evo . I hate the evo and android but I do miss some of it's features! Don't think I'll look back
I pre-ordered mine and picked it up Sunday. I think the thing is very nice. I came from a HTC Hero. What surprised me is the thickness is only sightly more than the hero. It's noticeable but just slightly.
There are a few quirks to get used to, especially multitasking limitations. But the speed, flow and intuitive interface make up for that. Thinking about it, even though my rooted Hero did multitasking, the performance was so bad, it ruined the experience (same goes for my wife's Evo).
I still find myself using the soft keyboard -- but for the long/detailed email composing, you cannot beat having a physical keyboard (screen real estate).
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i havent seen any threads posted or anything here whats going on? did u sprint guys pass on the arrive or something?
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I had two on pre-order. Picked them up on Sun. afternoon (3/20).
I entered my Live ID and had contacts, Xbox, ZunePass configured by the time I hit the parking lot. When I got in the car I added my main Hotmail account, and when I got home I configured it for Exchange. The rest was spent exploring apps (no, Steve Jobs, NOT "apples").
The wife was another story, she's spent a few days on the migration - mostly because she hadn't synced her phone with Outlook in the 30 days prior, she wanted to migrate her PST to another machine, and she hadn't properly configured Outlook to sync with Windows Live. (Edit: Here's the Live support forum thread on that issue)
She's getting where she needs to be - but I think migrating her old Calendar items are giving her problems. She's posted in the Windows Live support forums and I'll try to post a link to the issue later. It's not really a WP7 issue - just a sync issue she's having between Outlook and Hotmail Calendar.
So I guess how smooth it goes depends on how much you embrace the Windows Live "cloud" concept. In my case, I've never had an easier more care-free migration to a new phone. The wife's experience has been frustrating, but mostly because she's having to learn a lot of new things at once and of course she's in a big hurry. Procrastinators of the world unite... tomorrow - right?

HTC Rhodium still useful in an iPhone/WP7/Android era.

I still love my Cricket flashed TP2 (Sprint) and enjoy customizing it in fact. Very flexible like the HD2 and the keyboard is still one of the best in the industry. Anyone still using theirs today?
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I still love my Cricket flashed TP2 (Sprint) and enjoy customizing it in fact. Very flexible like the HD2 and the keyboard is still one of the best in the industry. Anyone still using theirs today?
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I wish I still had mine I miss it so much
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What's an iPhone?
Hell yeah I still use mine. It still does everything I want to do and its not the run of the mill phones of today.
Next up is taking it to europe for a couple weeks, swapping the sim card and still enjoying it there...
I would still use mine if I did not switch to Verizon.
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I still have mine too. I had to turn off that stupid slow Sence, but with Titanium is Rhodium fast and working great. And it does all what I need My lovely Rhodium.
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I still love my Cricket flashed TP2 (Sprint) and enjoy customizing it in fact. Very flexible like the HD2 and the keyboard is still one of the best in the industry. Anyone still using theirs today?
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I do! =)
(RhodiumW, sprint version)
This piece of Krapp Fone (yes with a K), its freakin slooooooooooooooowwwww. I use to think iphone 3G's was inferior back in 09. I still have my rhodium I honestly would love to use my sledge hammer, and cripple the dam thing!!! but if i can make $50 bucks of it, I'll be happier. couldn't stand memory leak issue with Windows mobile. Gladly, I am in the Samsung Galaxy S2 scene now, where there is not such thing as slowdowns.
HTC Rhodium, I REGRET YOU and DENOUNCE that you were ever my phone!
Same here. I still use my TP2 like it was brand new. I'm not parting with it until it dies. It does everything I need it to, and does it fairly quickly. Sure I can get an Arrive or a droid phone with a Ghz CPU, but I'd lose all the tweaks and programs I have amassed over the last year and a half. Screw that. Co0kies Home Tab still rules the roost round here!
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Same here. I still use my TP2 like it was brand new. I'm not parting with it until it dies. It does everything I need it to, and does it fairly quickly. Sure I can get an Arrive or a droid phone with a Ghz CPU, but I'd lose all the tweaks and programs I have amassed over the last year and a half. Screw that. Co0kies Home Tab still rules the roost round here!
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A month ago I would've agreed with you. But now that I finally got an Android native phone, I could never go back. You think there a lot of customizations with winmo and CHT, take that times 100 and you have Android. The things you can do is off the charts. You'll know what I mean when you finally move on from your TP2.
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This piece of Krapp Fone (yes with a K), its freakin slooooooooooooooowwwww. I use to think iphone 3G's was inferior back in 09. I still have my rhodium I honestly would love to use my sledge hammer, and cripple the dam thing!!! but if i can make $50 bucks of it, I'll be happier. couldn't stand memory leak issue with Windows mobile. Gladly, I am in the Samsung Galaxy S2 scene now, where there is not such thing as slowdowns.
HTC Rhodium, I REGRET YOU and DENOUNCE that you were ever my phone!
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i totally agree with you. this phone has caused me nothing but trouble in the longrun. it was quite good for a short period of time. ive just got myself a samsung galaxy s2 myself and there is no effin way im going back to tp2 ever. this phone i have now is crazily fast, there's truly no competition whatsoever (even an older android phone would beat the tp2).
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i totally agree with you. this phone has caused me nothing but trouble in the longrun. it was quite good for a short period of time. ive just got myself a samsung galaxy s2 myself and there is no effin way im going back to tp2 ever. this phone i have now is crazily fast, there's truly no competition whatsoever (even an older android phone would beat the tp2).
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I agree. Many think the Rhodium and winmo is the end all be all of customizability... but things have changed.
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I agree. Many think the Rhodium and winmo is the end all be all of customizability... but things have changed.
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Had tp2 for two years. Beautiful phone aesthecally unbeatable keyboard. The mistake I made was upgrading to Sense. The phone was never designed to run sense....slowed it down completely. Also it began to have random shut downs and crashes with Sense. It was irritating to have to install apps like Clean Ram in order to rescue my phone from crashing and keep it workable each day.
The straw that broke the camels back was when youtube hq video support for tp2 stopped.....it finally hit home that I had an aging phone that was unable to keep up with the times....a phone that youtube and adobe flash were now overlooking. Windows mobile had had its day it seemed. As such, it was time to put my tp2 in my 'museum' drawer along with my htc diamond and old ipaq.
I switched to a phone that was ahead of the times and might provide at least two years of futureproof peace of mind due to its specs...samsung gs2. Android is the future imho. I still occasionally use my htc hero without any problems - bar the smallish screen...
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I agree. Many think the Rhodium and winmo is the end all be all of customizability... but things have changed.
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Yup, with Android you get the customization options, and you also get an OS that actually works and has a ton of good software. If you need to stay with WinMo for personal reasons, then its tolerable. But if you compare Winmo to Android side to side, there is no contest.
I believe you. I've been using the Tilt 2 for a long time now, and I was waiting for DFT's Android NAND to be out but I gave up waiting last week. It's been lying around for a week without a sim card in it and still has battery life left. It's been running for a week on standby without charging. I moved to the Galaxy S, but I still love the TP2. Great phone it is. I will use it to test if they do come out with a proper android ROM for it.
Still using mine. All love love with it.
Im still using mine. My wife upgraded from the touch pro to the arrive running windows 7. It is nice but I still prefer 6.5. I would like a better camera and some sort of d pad to allow one hand use but still have not found a replacement. The xperia x2 looked perfect but it is not available in the US and I would have to switch to ATaT because it is GSM. I love the tp2 and it does almost everything I want. I use it with the stock rom and spb mobile shell. It allows me to customize the phone exactly how I like it.
My precious....
After running an old Kaiser with a very stable ROM for the last 2 years I "upgraded" my equipment with tp2, which I ever wanted to have. Must say, the Keyboard is great, don't wanna miss it any more! But WM 6.5 is a hard experience...
Till now I've fought over 3 months with this phone! It's such a brilliant concept of a phone, why is it so hard to get it stable??? I think I've tried out nearly any german ROM out in the field, including Energy Rom and the original one from HTC, not a single one was without a bug! The only thing I want it is to be stable, smooth and, well, just working!
Now I stay with the original Stock ROM, by now it seems to be stable, but memory using is a monster, and the phone slows down over the day.
And, after all, I also think of leaving good old WM and change to Androiid, but all I can read is that syncing Android with all my Data in Outlook via USB is also such a tricky job like using ActiveSync...
Has anyone here experience in that?
I have mine for now a year. I dont understand why HTC started to screw their Touch and Type phones. If you look in past, if you buyed a HTC with full qwerty, you became much faster phone than only Touch. Last better Touch and Type was Touch pro. If you compare witch Diamond, it had more Ram. From this point the Touch and type had worse hardware. I dont understand why they made Touch pro 2 with hardware from Touch pro. It was old and in that year came HTC touch HD2 with Snapdragon. So why Touch pro 2 didnt became also? This is only thing what i miss on this phone.
But... i had now for 2 days HTC Desire. I know, it had overheating issue, but i made some tricks to made it working I tryed and i must say, AMOLED, camera, speed, android was the hammer. There are only 2 reason i wouldnt buy one for common use. Absent full qwerty and my TP2 still do all i want. I would miss my 5 row keyboard :-D So still, TP2 is still numero uno for me ;-)

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