Hi everyone!
First post, have tried to find something similar in old threads/search but had no luck.
This evening, whilst composing text messages, my xda orbit became very sluggish and slow and kept freezing, which only a soft rest would solve. After happening 6 or 7 times, the soft reset now goes no further than the green "windows mobile direct push technology" screen (the one which follows the blue o2 screen).
Active sync on the PC does not detect the phone. Have read about bootloader etc but cant seem to get past the coloured screen or get it to sync with the PC and I dont have an SD card reader.
Have tried removing simcard, SD card, leaving off for a while etc. With my contract sim the green light at the top flashes (indicating a signal?) but phoning the phone gets no reply (although it does ring, doesnt go straight to voicemail) but on my PAYG Sim I dont get the flashing light. Every 2 minutes the phone lights up brighter then dims 20 seconds later (which is what my dimmer was set to time-wise when the phone worked). I have never installed any hardware or software on top of the original defaults other than a sandisk 1gb SD card approx 1 year ago.
Now I know and have read than a hard reset may fix this (before anyone suggests it). However, I have some VERY important data on the phone which I have to retrieve (in the form of a few hundred very important text messages containing data, and a huge contact list, the backup of has been lost). The data in these texts and contact list is paramount to me.
So, is there ANY way to get this data from the phone before hard resetting to get the phone to work? To be honest i'm not bothered about the handset/phone itself working I just desperately want the data?
Any help at all would be very much appreciated (and i'm no techie by the way, just a simpleton lol!).
Thanks in advance, happy to set up some sort of Paypal reward scheme for anyone that can sort this as this data is as close to life or death as it gets without it being life or death lol!
PS: For example, is there a way of taking the phones integrated memory card out (with all the contacts and texts intact) and getting the data from it either onto a PC or into another handset?
PPS: Anyone in the South East of England who wants to earn a few quid and can sort this in person feel free to offer!
UPDATE
Well, today I switched it on and it was still the same, and again the same 5 hours later, then suddenly it perked up and everything worked!! I managed to get it to sync, copied the pim file (which I think is the contacts?) onto my PC and then it froze again. Soft reset and now stuck on green screen.
If the magical happens and it flickers into life one final time, where exactly on an orbit are all text messages stored? If I can copy the folder onto the PC, hard reset, then copy it back I should have them all?
There are a few .vol files - PIM.VOL is the contacts/calendar one, and theres another one for messages, but I cannot remember what it is called unfortunately...
OK, thankyou! There's been some more developments!
If I soft rest the phone around 5 times then leave it on the charger (even if it's fully charged) for around 5 hours the phone jumps into life! However, doing things for any length of time freezes the phone.
Added Pimbackup via activesync and it retrieves all the messages fine, but freezes at the point of eginning to add them to the SD card.
Active sync wont let me into most of the folders on the device (such as the windows folder).
So, I can get on the phone eventually but does anyone have ANY ideas as to how I can backup or transfer text messages etc?
TIA
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Hi there,
I upgraded my Blue Angel (Qtek 9090) to WM2005 a couple of months ago through the updates provided by this forum. It all worked out perfectly. I don't use the phone option because I have a separate cellphone which is smaller and I can carry it with me all the time. I only use the PDA at work.
Because my phone battery was running very low a few days ago, I decided to put the phone card into my PDA. Normally, every time I (re)booted, WM2005 would ask for my PIN-number and I could just press 'cancel' because I didn't have a GSM-card in the PDA.
It didn't work. "No service" was the only thing I could see but I never got to fill in my phone PIN-number, if I press the phone button or use the link in programs, nothing comes up.
I took the card out again and figured it was probably a glitch in WM2005, but not much later I discovered my calendar and contacts data are corrupted. When I start up the calendar, it says "An unexpected error has occurred in this program." and it disappears again after I press Ok.
The contacts program won't show itself at all.
In the 'today' screen, there are no references to things that are going to show in the calendar today.
Rebooting and trying the phone card again (I tried retracing my steps) did not help. Activesync 4.1 doesn't work because it cannot retrieve the data from the PDA so I cannot re-sync it from the PC.
Can anyone point me in the right direction? I think I'm in deep doodoo here! :?:
I have a blue angel with WM6, it has been.... like..... 4 weeks when i upgraded, and "everything" (this means, the text messages sometime take A LOT to receive and to send)
any way, my BA works just fine, today, i synchronized my BA and Windows Activesync, so, i imported 4 pics to the memory.
I check the pics, and everything works wonderfull, i get out, i drove like... 20 minutes, i check de BA.... AND IT'S LOCKED!!!!
i mean, really locked! i can't unlock it!!!!!
please, help, anyone got and idea?
Btw, i can't figure out how to synchronize activeSync with outlook 07, all is activated, the option in AS, but i can't figure out how to do it in outlook (this is just because if i have to reinstall WM6, i don't lose all my contacts :S)
Please, really, help.
PS.- i do use search like 15 times, and it keeps throwing the same error:
"Your response to the spam question wrong blablablabla"
Thanxs!!!! many many thanxs!!!!!!! (and yes, cold and warm boot, nothing help)
done!
i don't know what was it, but i left my BA all night without the battery, i shove it in in the morning (almost 10 hrs) and it keeps locked up.
I pluged it in to the usb connector, and let it for about 20 mins. The alarms and notifications keep showing up and etc etc. I return, and voala! the unlock buttons works fine :S
Everything it's back to normal.
Thanxs in advance if anyone read the thread! mi BA is alive again.
Cya!
2 totally separate phones (dash's) one with Rogers and one with stock Tmo WM6. Hard restart all contacts disappear! Since in their infinite wisdom you cant disable the sim contacts from showing, I rely on them STAYING in the phone memory! Anyone else with this issue? It has happened only twice in maybe 4 months, but is very frustrating!
Thanks for any advice!
A hard reset will restore the phone to factory default (no contact list). It's supposed to do that. Keep your contacts synchronized via outlook and activesync.
Sorry, I was lying when I typed hard reset. I yanked the battery so it wasnt exactly a soft reset but I did not do the clear storage either I guess next time it locks up I will be more patient!
gospeed.racergo said:
2 totally separate phones (dash's) one with Rogers and one with stock Tmo WM6. Hard restart all contacts disappear! Since in their infinite wisdom you cant disable the sim contacts from showing, I rely on them STAYING in the phone memory! Anyone else with this issue? It has happened only twice in maybe 4 months, but is very frustrating!
Thanks for any advice!
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You should be syncing your phone with your contact list on your PC or exchange server if you are lucky enough to have one. This is one of the most basic things you can do on a smartphone. What if you lost your phone???
I do sync. But I dont take my computer with me either. So today, all day, I was without contacts. Now they are back caused I sync'd.
I guess we should be telling people that want louder call volume to get a hearing aid and people that want to run another ROM to buy the right phone
backup
I use Sprite Backup for said problem and its golden. Simply make backups of your data on the go and when things happen like say an impossible to stop boot loop or a data error, you can still restore everything.
I guess I am just the kind of person that would rather look at the root of the problem, not the band-aid repair after it happens again. I will look into the backup, but I will probably just carry my spare deactivated sim card so I can transfer stuff back if it fails me again.
So does anyone know a way to KEEP the contacts on the sim, yet hide them from view on the contacts list? It surpirses me that something my 8 year old Nokia does WM6 wont let you do . I have never accidentally lost my sim contacts- but the duplicate thing is annoying
The rogers rom for the htc s621 (dash) allows you to hide sim contacts without a registry edit. goto settings then phone... you'll find it there.
also there is a reg edit for said issue for roms that don't offer this option. I have not personally found a smartphone rom without this option but the regedit is: [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Phone]
"ShowSIM"=dword:00000001 ->0 to disable, 1 to enable.
Now you can keep your contacts on your activated SIM.
THANK YOU!!! I had not realized Rogers did this!
Found the check box under Settings/Phone/Call Options
I'm getting a fair bit of slowdown recently on my MDA Compact lll. For instance, I'll reboot and then find I get very delayed response if I click on something, ( such as contacts, sim card, tomtom, etc) like it's thinking about it and working hard to bring up the information. It can take forever. Sometimes the tomtom logo on the desktop doesn't appear. And sometimes the contact list shows up empty even though the scroll bar is working on the right, so it knows there's a list of contacts but they're invisible until I reboot.
It can take up to 3 reboots before everything is back to normal and responding fast again. I've done several hard resets recently so it's not like it needs formatting. Could something be corrupted? I was thinking maybe corruption of the storage card, but then why would it affect the contacts list which is not on the storage card.
Yet another thread that gets no replies. Seriously, this forum is ****.
Only just seen this..
When monitoring the startup of my XDA Orbit it uses around 85-90% memory for at least a minute until it settles down to 50%.
What contacts software are you using and do you have SPB Pocket Plus installed?
Nick
dontpannic said:
Only just seen this..
When monitoring the startup of my XDA Orbit it uses around 85-90% memory for at least a minute until it settles down to 50%.
What contacts software are you using and do you have SPB Pocket Plus installed?
Nick
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Hi. No contacts software other than the default WM5. I just transferred my 118 phone contacts from my sim card to the phones own contact list. Nope, I don't have SPB Pocket Plus on my phone.
So on 01/01, I upgraded from my 2 year old 8525 (no mods done to it) to a ATT Tilt 2; and so far here is my issues/things I need help with/report:
Within the first 20 days of the 30 day return period, the SMS notification audible stopped working on sent messages. The notification on the screen still showed on the bottom just no sound. No setting change or soft reset fixed. No other issues before that point.
Got new phone.
Within 5 days on phone number two, the phone would default to SMS tree view (view is found by going to messages in touchflo and selecting 'All Messages' from the bottom left.) Would move TouchFlo to Home screen (my background that shows clock, date, etc.), hit the power key to power save, hit power key to power up, and then on SMS tree view, not my home screen. Didn't matter how long after I manually put phone in power save, it would still not default to homepage screen. Only consistently did this when I manually used the power button to put in power save. When I locked the phone and put in power save no issues, or it was random. When the phone went into power save by itself after my 2 minutes delay, the issue was random. This phone also froze on me twice upon in the SMS function.
Got new phone yesterday.
So far no issues.
So I'm on phone number 3, with the first 2 having software issues.
No mods to any of the phones (yet), and if this phone has issues, I have option to return and pay no restocking fee and get a different phone (probably an iPhone 16GB at this point, as much as I don't want one), or start downloading new manillas, cabs, and shells for this one.
Is there any updates out there I am missing, or anything else I am missing.
I've got my Cox Email (a POP3 push), my Hotmail, and my Yahoo Email (as an IMAP, it defaulted the setup that way) setup, and no other real changes. Using my old microSD card (1GB) that's got songs, audio clips, and pics/vids on it.
I saw the thread on att wireless forums for the update on an SMS freezing issue, not sure if relates to any of my issues, or if I should go ahead and upload to number 3 phone I currently have anyways. And should I upload other fix as well, eventhough I never saw issues with caller id on first 2 phones (coming in as unknown even though contact is calling you). Haven't had third phone long enough to discern any issues yet.
More info: I always have touchflo active
What do I need to do to get things on this phone to make sure it doesn't mess up? Other things one would suggest to customize the phone?
I WANT THE MOST GLITCH FREE POSSIBLE PHONE
Thanks
and sorry for the newb questions
Also to note:
I am technology illiterate. Simple explanations of every step is needed for me.
Also to note, I have a laptop that is running Vista 64bit and I have not uploaded the ActiveSync software to my laptop yet
my brother mentioned something to me about a PIM? for backup?
I can't speak to all the other issues you've seen, but AT&T packs a lot of bloat-ware on the stock ROM they put on the Tilt2, and it's usually stuff that users have no need for.
There's a utility at this thread that will sweep all that junk off in one swipe, you'll find it frees up a good amount of the available memory in the phone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587637&highlight=crud+scraper
Okay. Thanks for the reply.
Something I want to do is get rid of all the crap I don't want, including but not limited to:
- all demo stuff
- the music files that came on the phone (artists: Chris Hawkes, Pacha Massive, Sidestepper)
- AT&T Navigator
- WorldCard Mobile
anything that is not related to phone, text, email, internet, my photos and music from my card, Facebook, stocks, weather = rest of it gone
I was reading in the sticky threads on how to do what and was still confusing and it scared me from doing anything to this phone, but I know I need to do things to clean it up and make it run better
Can anyone give me an idiot, idiot, to the supreme idiot guide on how to do what I need to do?
1. Upload ActiveSync to my laptop (not done yet) (my laptop runs Vista 64bit)
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All I want to do is make the phone run better and fix glitches, and not have any glitches in doing this.
Thanks
After I do steps 1 - whatever,
should I install hotfix for unknown caller id and freezing SMS issue
htp://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&thread.id=125218
or would another thing from someone else resolve this?
Maybe what I learned will help?
Have a look at this thread, and see if it helps you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625730
Good luck!
yeah it was a help thanks for the reply, but it wasn't a help.
as you see above, i haven't even put the activesync software on my laptop. so after i do that, what do i need to do first to get that crud+scraper and other things on my phone?
idiots guide please
what i need to do in what order is very confusing to me. all of this is confusing to me
i just want my phone to be less bloated and work properly with no issues. i think i have seen the caller id issue and not sure if i'm still getting the sms tree issue i saw on phone #2 i just replaced
The order is listed.
Hi again,
Yes, go ahead and get activesync on your computer 1st thing
then, Look at post #9. Do it in that order.
The .net 3.5 mentioned can be found here:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...49-3C6B-42F1-9FD9-0041345B3385&displaylang=en
Just download that, and run it while your phone is connected to activesync. It will put .net 3.5 on your phone. Next, copy the 3 files for crud scraper onto the phone somewhere you can find it, like my documents (on your PC, you'll need to right-click, copy, then right click, paste). Once the files are on the phone, just find the folder you put them in and click on the 'poop' icon. You can then clean off all the crap you want by checking the boxes.
So,
#1 Get activesync
#2 get .net 3.5
#3 run crudscraper
#4 I highly recommend SPB mobile shell. (google it) It just makes much easier to navigate the phone. There is a free 15 day trial.
#5 any of the other apps I mentioned are good.
That should get you started.
thanks for the reply subterran
subterran:
any thoughts to my homepage/message tree issue that occured with #2, and mow occuring with #3 phone I currently have? Thanks
the phone would default to SMS tree view (view is found by going to messages in touchflo and selecting 'All Messages' from the bottom left.) Would move TouchFlo to Home screen (my background that shows clock, date, etc.), hit the power key to power save, hit power key to power up, and then on SMS tree view, not my home screen. Didn't matter how long after I manually put phone in power save, it would still not default to homepage screen. Only consistently did this when I manually used the power button to put in power save. When I locked the phone and put in power save no issues, or it was random. When the phone went into power save by itself after my 2 minute delay, the issue was random.