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Windows Live Messenger vs TMobile settings

Installed the Black Satin rom today - amazing btw! - and I've been wrestling with WLM all day. It did work at first but then stopped completely saying I was in an area with bad data coverage. ALthough I'm getting full H and 3G speeds.
After a hard reset, I tried WLM using wireless before I applied to Tmob settings and again, it worked perfectly. Drop Tmob back on and it dies again.
Anyone had this before and does anyone know of a workaround so I can have my 3G and WLM on the same handset.
Many thanks and keep up the good work. There's enough cabs on here to keep me entertained for days!!!
D-Jac

Just a quick question, are you putting in the T-Mobile settings manually, or via a CAB from here? I know most of the early CABs had a proxy hard-coded into them that could be causing problems. Let us know what country you're from and I'm sure someone'll be kind enough to give you the settings to put in. If it's UK, then:
Start > Settings > Connections > Connections
Advanced tab > Select Networks
New > Name it T-Mobile Internet and then click on the Modem tab
New > Name it T-Mobile Internet and select Cellular Line (3G)
Next > Access point is general.t-mobile.uk
Next > Finish
OK back outa few times and you're done.
Like I said, if it's not UK, this won't work! Also, if the problem isn't related to this - sorry!

Yeah, I added my T-Mob UK settings via the HTC tool that does it via ActiveSync. It added in an HTTP proxy that I couldn't delete. Strange, 'cos when I bought my Vario II it had no proxy defined.
When the proxy was there I could not access WLM. When I used a different CAB to re-add the settings, I could.
However, Agile Messenger still won't connect at all to AIM or MSN. Gawd knows why?!

Sorry - yes, I'm on T-mobile UK with web n walk. I found a cab on one of the wiki pages for T-mobile UK which is the first one I tried and didn't work. After posting here last night, I used the UK_Setup_ZD.exe program to load the T-mob settings and it still didn't work.
If anybody might be able to point me in the direction of a clean/usable T-Mob file that would be ace.
Thanks for the suggestion to load the settings manually. Before I cleared my phone of WM5, I followed the mrvanx guide to housekeep my existing setting but there is a starred out password in the connection for T-Mob internet so I couldn't set it.
As always, any help muchos appreciated!

If you're on T-Mobile UK, you don't need a username and password (trust me!). If you want, look up the details on the T-Mobile Help and Support website and it gives you step by step instructions on setting up the connections manually, that's where I got the above instructions from.

Oooh? Will try in and see how we get on. My searches have also lead me to other posts which think it may be a proxy settings, as the Tmob cab won't allow you to change the proxy.
I'll keep experimenting and will report back!

Confused Stu - YOU ARE A STAR!
Did a hard reset, back to a clean version of Satin. Input the details with no username and password and all seems to be working. Now all I need is to be able to stop it syncing every two seconds, but I shall have a mosey around the pages for the answer to that one and why I can't make it try wireless before dialling.
You've been a great help - cheers!!!

I had the same problem as you did after upgrading to Black Satin (starred out password in the T-mobile settings). I can confirm that you don't need the username or password to get it working.
Cheers,
Doogs

Can't log on net with T-mobile. Handset is new. Could it be broken? Or is it me?

Hi there (I'm in the UK)
it's an unbranded S620 brand new running WM5 (not interested in WM6). My SIM card is with T-mobile which works with my Pocket PC P3600. But I can't get GPRS to work with the S620. Could really use some help guys.
I've set up a GPRS data connection called "T-Mobile GPRS" and have entered the following details:
Access point = general.t-mobile.uk
username = user
password = one2one
I've deleted the Primary DNS, Secondary DNS (more on those later) and also the IP address.
I've activated the data connection (T-Mobile GPRS).
I've gone in to explorer and made the settings there, i.e.
highlighted "Automatically detect settings" and I've selected "WAP Network".
When I try to access the net via explorer I get the error "Your Internet connection is not configured properly. Please verify your settings in Data Connections".
I've checked and doubled checked and re-entered everything 5 times. No dice.
Note: when I go back to re-enter, the Primary and Secondary DNS fields have suddenly become populated with 0.0.0.0
Not sure if this is relevant!
Note: I can connect to the web if I use WiFi and also change the setting "Select Network" in I.E. from "WAP Network" to "The Internet". Which also begs the question, why doesn't this switch automatically? This is the first SP I've had. Ive always had Pocket PC which if you switched WiFi on and opened explorer it used WiFi. Seems a bit of a pain to have to change IE settings as well, unless I've got that wrong as well....
Anyway, I've called T-Mobile and apart from the above all they said is go to your local T-Mobile store and they will check your s/ware. The problem with this is that the store will want to stick their TMobile s/w on and I prefer the handset unbranded. As I explained above I've used the SIM in other unbranded devices before.
Any ideas?
I'm missing my news.bbc.c.o.uk!
Thanks

Change WAP Network to Internet.
BTW, WM6 is ways faster on the Excalibur.
Ka.

That's great it works!
I wonder why the T-Mobile website asks you to enter WAP Network?
By the way, in what regard is WM6 faster?
Download speeds or some other aspect(s)?
Thanks

General responsiveness of the UI is (in my humble opinion) faster with WM6 than with the shipped WM5.
I had an Excalibur for roughly two months. Got it with the shipped WM5, then installed the TMo Wm6 as soon as it was out and was impressed by it (after some tweaking to remove the TMo stuff I didn't need).
Decided to buy the Vox as the keyboard was sliding, shipped with WM6, more compact and nobody would say anymore:"Oh... Cool!!! You have a Blackberry! You must either be important or want to show off!"
Sold the Excalibur, bought the Vox. Vox's WM6 is not even comparable to Excalibur's... Don't ask me why but it find it quite slower. But now I'm getting OT.
Ka.

ROM recommendation for Vario II noob

Hi, would like to upgrade my T-Mobile UK Vario II to WM6, not worried about the warranty etc, just wanna get a performance / reliability boost as I have not been at all impressed by WM5! Would prefer the ROM to include all the basics like Java etc, would like to make it fairly simple to get going.
Last time I looked a lot of people seemed to think the 'black' rom was a good one, but I know things change quick here, can anyone tell me what they'd recommend?
Thanks!

I'm using HTC ROM on my T-mobile MDA Vario II for few months. In my opinion, it's a most stable ROM I've tried.
Links: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316726
Have fun

I'm currently using the Black Satin rom, along with radio 1.54. Working pretty nicely so far.
Watch out for how you get the T-Mobile UK settings back on though - using HTC's own WM6 setting installer device sets up the T-Mobile Internet connection with a proxy for some dumb reason. I was pulling my hair out over Windows Live not working full stop and really slow internet access for a while.

Thanks for the ideas!.... main advantage of black over HTC's official is it's been streamlined, cut down, am I right?

pLemming said:
I'm currently using the Black Satin rom, along with radio 1.54. Working pretty nicely so far.
Watch out for how you get the T-Mobile UK settings back on though - using HTC's own WM6 setting installer device sets up the T-Mobile Internet connection with a proxy for some dumb reason. I was pulling my hair out over Windows Live not working full stop and really slow internet access for a while.
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T-Mobile UK settings
Internet
Start>settings>connections>connections>advanced>select networks>new
name the settings t-mobile
click modem>new
name the connection t-mobile and select the modem cellular line (gprs, 3g)
click next, the apn is general.t-mobile.uk
click next the username is user and the password one2one
click finish then ok and x till you get to the home screen.
connect to internet explorer to test
MMS (black satin rom) official rom theyre put in differently
start>messaging>mms/sms>menu>new>mms>>menu>options>message options>servers>new
server name: T-Mobile MMS
gateway: 149.254.201.135
port: 8080
server address: http://mmsc.t-mobile.co.uk:8002
connect via: pic your default internet connection
send limit: 100
WAP Version: WAP 2.0

Or you can go to http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/help-and-...obile-phone-manuals/?ref=newhome_phonemanuals pick your handset and see step by step instructions for all types of settings.
Enjoy

Connection settings
when inputting the user name and password for the internet APN, t mobile states that it doesnt need a username and password,
Putting anything in here leads to intermittent connection problems.
Thought I would let you all know!

OK, have done the upgrade as well (Everything is working hunky dooooreee) but this is really going to sound dumb. I upgraded but the splash screen when I turn on my Vario 2 mentions AT & T ?? Does anyone know how to change it back to T-mobile ?

roboraver said:
OK, have done the upgrade as well (Everything is working hunky dooooreee) but this is really going to sound dumb. I upgraded but the splash screen when I turn on my Vario 2 mentions AT & T ?? Does anyone know how to change it back to T-mobile ?
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This is the way how to change your splashscreens back to TMob:
1) Download the TMob splashscreens from the net (or ask somebody to send it to you, also you can dump a TMob ROM to get those splashscreens)
2) Use this tutorial to flash the spashscreens to your device. This flashing will only flash the splashscreens so you will not lose any data. Be careful though and do what tutorial says (you can always brick your device if you do not know what are you doing).

Thanks all... got it all working with Schap's WM6 in the end, it does all that localization stuff for you automatically, very nice!
Interesting 6630boy, no usr / pass?... I'll have to try it. I'm sure last time I had em talk me through it on my other phone they were getting me to put a usr/pass combo in there...
This Schap's WM6 is absolutely awesome, basically everything that was screwy in the T-Mobile WM5 works, and works quickly enough to be cheerful about!
I ALMOST like Windows Mobile now, heh...

Yeah what's up with that?... on the t-mob site's manual it says:
Select connection type
* Press the Select a modem drop down list.
* Press Cellular Line (GPRS , 3G).
* Press Next.
The APN name general.t-mobile.uk must be in lower case letters.
If you selected the connection type Generic IrDA in step 6, you are now asked to key in a dial-up number. Key in *99# and go to step 8.
7
Enter APN name
* Press the Access point name input field and key in general.t-mobile.uk
* Press Next.
8
Enter username
* Press the User name input field and key in user
9
Enter password
* Press the Password input field and key in one2one

T-Mobile Internet Stopped!!

My hermes was working fine for the couple weeks I've had it, internet, internet sharing, everything. A couple days ago, the internet stopped working. I can still do calls, emails still seem to work (with exchange), sms is fine, although MMS is failing as well.
I have a 2nd 8525 and the same issues on that one too. I plugged my sim into a wing I had laying around, and voila, internet works. I tried all sorts of settings, tried surfing with wap.voicestream.com with the 216.155.165.50 or whatever proxy, etc.
I noticed on another forum that people in my area are having the same issues, but t-mobiles says the network is fine.
I am inclined to believe t-mobile on this one a bit, being that my Wing works fine... but neither of my 8525's (hermes) work...
One last note, when I boot up, I get a message saying the operator does not exist database, I just exit out the error and it WAS working fine even with that box, does it on both Hermes I have.
Any ideas!!!! Thanks. All help is really, really appreciated.

Mine stopped working temporarily yesterday, and started working again within an hour. Are you using the internet2.voicestream.com access point?

I'm using wap.voicestream.com -- but I had tried internet2.voicestream.com as well... are you using all the proxy settings with it (I HAVE the 19.99 unlimited data plan btw).
Both phones are using Schaps, so i'm considering flashing a different rom and seeing if that brings any new luck if I can't find any other help. But I have my main phone really well customized and would hate to have to do that.
What area are you in? I'm in South Florida (and on another thread, 2 or 3 other posters in south florida are having the same issues, weird)

With the unlimited data plan you should be able to use internet2 for all data and wap.voicestream for MMS. If you want I can post my configs that work, I just copied them from the T-Mobile Wireless configurator site using the Wing for my handset. Also, I'm from Northern Colorado.

RE: Internet:
I had an issue with t-mobile tZones back when they alowed it on smartphones... Then one day it just stopped working. about two weeks later, I finally got annoyed with them and called them.
They argued with me about tZones working for about 20 minutes and then finally found an internal memo about people using tZones to cruise the internet by accessing wap first, and once establishing a connection, usine pIE. So, You can't trust a phone company when it claims that their network is ok or that they ddin't cancel a part of your service without letting you know.
...BUT,
acording to them:
"216.155.165.050" FALSE INFORMATION
"216.155.165.50" TRUE INFORMATION
"Welcome to the T-Mobile Wireless Data Configurator. In a few quick and easy steps, this tool will help you configure your phone for Internet access."
Setting up the handset
Tap Start.
Tap Settings.
Tap on the Connections tab.
Tap the Connections icon.
Tap Add a new modem connection under T-Mobile Data.
Enter T-Mo WEB in the Enter a name for the connection field.
Tap to select Cellular Line (GPRS) from the Select a modem drop down list.
Tap Next.
Enter internet2.voicestream.com in the Access point name field.
Tap Next.
Tap Finish.
The new Internet profile is now configured and ready for use.
VPN
"Welcome to the T-Mobile Wireless Data Configurator. In a few quick and easy steps, this tool will help you configure your phone for Internet access.
Setting up the handset
Tap Start.
Tap Settings.
Tap on the Connections tab.
Tap the Connections icon.
Tap Add a new modem connection under T-Mobile Data.
Enter T-Mo VPN in the Enter a name for the connection field.
Tap to select Cellular Line (GPRS) from the Select a modem drop down list.
Tap Next.
Enter internet3.voicestream.com in the Access point name field.
Tap Next.
Tap Finish.
The new Internet profile is now configured and ready for use. "
"Picture Messaging (MMS) Configuration Complete
Welcome to the T-Mobile Wireless Data Configurator. In a few quick and easy steps, this tool will help you configure your phone for picture messaging (MMS).
Setting up the data account
Tap Start.
Tap Settings.
Tap on the Connections tab.
Tap the Connections icon.
Tap Add a new modem connection under T-Mobile Data.
Enter T-Mo MMS in the Enter a name for the connection field.
Tap to select Cellular Line (GPRS) from the Select a modem drop down list.
Tap Next.
Enter wap.voicestream.com in the Access point name field.
Tap Next.
Tap Finish.
Setting up the MMS profile
Tap Start again.
Tap Messaging.
Tap Menu.
Tap MMS Configuration.
Tap the Servers tab.
Tap New.
Enter T-Mo MMS in the Server Name field.
Enter 216.155.165.050 in the Gateway field.
Enter 8080 in the Port number field.
Enter http://216.155.174.84/servlets/mms in the Server address field.
Tap to select T-Mobile GPRS from the Connect via drop down list.
Tap to select WAP 2.0 from the WAP Version dropdown.
Tap OK.
Scroll to T-Mo MMS and tap Set As Default.
Tap OK.
The new MMS profile is now configured and ready for use. "
"t-zones (WAP) Configuration Complete
Welcome to the T-Mobile Wireless Data Configurator. In a few quick and easy steps, this tool will help you configure your phone for t-zones (WAP).
Setting up the handset
Tap Start.
Tap Settings.
Tap on the Connections tab.
Tap the Connections icon.
Tap Add a new modem connection under T-Mobile Data.
Enter T-Zones in the Enter a name for the connection field.
Tap to select Cellular Line (GPRS) from the Select a modem drop down list.
Tap Next.
Enter wap.voicestream.com in the Access point name field.
Tap Next.
Tap Finish.
Tap Manage existing connections under T-Mobile Data.
Tap on the Proxy Settings tab.
Tap to check This network connects to the Internet.
Tap to check This network uses a proxy server to connect to the Internet.
Enter 216.155.165.050 in the Proxy server field.
Tap Advanced...
Tap HTTP.
Enter 8080 in the Port field.
Tap OK four times.
Tap Start.
Tap Internet Explorer.
Browse to http://wap.t-zones.com.
Tap Menu.
Tap Tools and tap Options...
Tap Use Current under Home page.
Tap OK.
The new WAP profile is now configured and ready for use. "
http://tmobileuspublic.wdsglobal.com/phonefirst?phoneId=0&manufacturerId=0&ispId=&mmsId=&wapId=&contractId=235&countryId=37&networkId=90&bearerId=5&phoneId=1805&manufacturerId=41&mobileNumber=&incomingServerId=
another thing you can do is copy the contents of your extended rom on the wing onto a storage card on your new device. also copy the "config" text file so that you install the CAB files in the proper order. reset. try now, I hope this helps

S.V.I said:
another thing you can do is copy the contents of your extended rom on the wing onto a storage card on your new device. also copy the "config" text file so that you install the CAB files in the proper order. reset. try now, I hope this helps
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Did all of the above settings, didn't do a thing. Still same connection issue. When you go to IE and enter an address, it says "connecting... locating... opening..." and just sticks on "opening" for the page, MSN Live doesn't work or anything else either. This is all strange since it was all working fine only a few days ago.
There is some magic setting or something that is making Hermes devices not work anymore while the wing still does.
I DIDNT do the extended rom thing, would you mind explaining that a little further step by step for me?

If those settings don't work it sounds to me like something is corrupted on your phone, and you may need to do a hard reset, or installing a new rom. I haven't had any issues with Schaps 4.31 since I installed it 2 weeks ago, but it sounds like you might be.

I have 2 8525's, lol... didn't work on EITHER even with a fresh install of schaps, I even tried 4.4 with win mo 6.1 just for jollies. It's really strange though and as I said, multiple people in my area are reporting this same issue at this moment.
But I just think they made changes that a certain setting or something on the hermes doesn't like since it works on the Wing.
In fact, it's quite pissing me off, lol... really frustrating.

I would call t-mobile and find out from them. my 8525 works just fine.

yeah but you are in a different part of the country, it's actually people with Kaisers (Tilt) having the issue as well... it's the TyTn and TyTn II models that just magically aren't working, and it's all south florida. Those t-mobile bastards!
But really, the freakin Wing works, what could it possibly be!!!!!

8525 in South Florida (Miami) with same issue
As always, when I have problems with my phones I turn to xda developers and viola! Answer's to my questions. My at&t 8525 internet stopped working around 8pm Thursday night (2/7/08). I have had my T-mobile sim on this phone working fine since last July with not one problem until now. I actually did call t-mobile customer service and went through all the usual treat the customer like a dummy and tell him/her to restart, take out battery, etc etc like that never occurred to me to try...DUH! Then they tell me to talk to the IT dept at my work to see about active sync settings. And of course they do not know that I AM the senior engineer in the IT dept so I get the rare privilege to inform them of this and assure them that there is NOTHING wrong with my exchange server as everyone else in the office using active sync has no problems, it is only me on T-mobile with my unlocked 8525. They then offered to transfer me to tier 2 support. Which gave me another rare opportunity to use one of my favorite lines with customer support..... "I just want to talk to someone who knows more than me". Unfortunately work took me away from the phone and I did not get a chance to continue with tier 2 support. I will take this up later today and post any resolutions if they present themselves. But I am putting my money on this forum and the incredibly talented individuals who frequent here on a resolution to this issue instead of T-mobile. Seems to me T-mobile is sending a hidden message that they possibly do not want my business anymore. Good thing my contract us up in a few months.
Thanks to all in advance!

vr24 said:
yeah but you are in a different part of the country, it's actually people with Kaisers (Tilt) having the issue as well... it's the TyTn and TyTn II models that just magically aren't working, and it's all south florida. Those t-mobile bastards!
But really, the freakin Wing works, what could it possibly be!!!!!
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It's possible that the wing, since its a T-Mobile phone probably has some sort of network priority list the 8525 doesnt. try selecting under Phone > networks Tmobile and see if it sticks. Good luck!

Perhaps you should try flashing another radio. I used one a while back and could not get data working.

that's very interesting, as we are probably ALL using the same unlocked radio. Can you possibly point me in the right direction on how to do that?

radio version
I'm using Radio version 1.51. I will try flashing to the latest and see how that goes, but let me tell ya, looking at the new schap's rom I'm thinking I might just flash that bad boy, It looks awesome!

Seumas said:
I'm using Radio version 1.51. I will try flashing to the latest and see how that goes, but let me tell ya, looking at the new schap's rom I'm thinking I might just flash that bad boy, It looks awesome!
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The 4.4? It's ok, I didn't notice a huge difference, and it actually seemed to run a bit slower, although I didn't have a chance to test it much.
I went to my device information, and it says radio version 1.16 - so I guess we are running different radio's and having the same issue... maybe that isn't the solution then. Could it have somethign to do with hard-spl and having it unlocked and what not?

Ok so tried 5 different radio versions, all with zero success. Ugh!!

If you are an MDA user in the US and have issues connecting to your internet and MMS:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294573
I use this rom to fix my service. period. I just dont know how else to fix that issue.
All the other ROMs have not fixed the issues I have been having after upgrading my phone to WM6. The Rom By it self eats the batery, so Faria's Kitchen has a great little extra package in the extended rom: "Xfaria settings"
FIXED the battery drain issue.
WIZARD G3 (TMO MDA US) WM6 pro from Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294573
Radio: official 2.25
IPL/SPL: 2.26
Xfaria Settings

How recent was your internet not working? And can we just install Wizard roms onto an 8525 hermes?

We are going to keep this down to 1 thread I think, we have one going pretty well on the Kaiser forum (TyTn 2) and the South Florida guys with that model are having the exact same issues.
Head over there and we can keep this all together and try and find a solution.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1907694#post1907694

[Q] Easy APN Switching

The stock Froyo ROM is quite cumbersome when multiple APNs are used.
Apart from the MMS APN, I have two other APNs set up: one for plain internet access and the other one for intranet or company email.
Switching from one to the other involved the following steps (I have a Dutch ROM so the exact wording may be different):
1. Home screen/Menu/Settings/Wireless and networks and then switch of the current data connection
2. Select the menu item below: mobile networks/APNs and choose another APN
3. In the Wireless and networks screen, re-enable the data connection
4. Go back to the application that needed another APN and start working again
On Windows Mobile, it was easier to indicate what APN had to be used for what purpose.
Isn't there an easier way to do this?
Thanks,
Mark

? Is this a general froyo issue? I am still on 2.1 and hesitating to upgrade, this would be a dealbreaker for me as I use the same setup...
Currently I use a bettercut shortcut directly to my apn's which works perfectly, no need to do something else besides selecting apn
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