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I recently 'upgraded' to the 5.99 plan and so far it works fine for
Yahoo Go
P I E
Weather Updates
pretty much everything.......
except Opera Mini...its off and on with Opera Mini...anyone know why?
Java doesnt work on the 5.99 plan
Actually, Java does work on the 5.99 plan. I am running Opera Mini and GMail off of my GPRS connection and they both work. Neither required any special setup, to my recollection.
I do believe you have to be running Windows Mobile 6.1, though.
well its working now. im using it to send this message. its just off and on...
Yeah i think with the 5.99 plan since your using a proxy to connect, the information is slow to get to opera's servers... i think. I think im just going to get the 19.99 plan and deal with it.
imma try this out for a month...or less. lol.
I downloaded Ricky's V23 with Opera. I assumed this meant that Opera was included, but I do not see where/how I can inititate the running of this program.
I did find a option to Install Opera, but it does not seem to do anything.
Help please....
i have oprea and the 5.99 plan and i did all the things they told me too as far as the settings goes...and still no cigar...i tired for a while but i just dropped after my failures
Plan on all of the 5.99 freebie connections to the internet to go bye bye as T-Mobile rolls out their 3g. I used the 5.99 plan for years (actually a grandfathered 2.99 plan) then all of a sudden it stopped working... then I saw the guys on the Cell towers and figured it had to do with 3g. So far three months later no 5.99 connections anymore. However the 19.99 plan I have on my Dash works perfectly so I had my free ride long enough I suppose LOL
Bupahs said:
Plan on all of the 5.99 freebie connections to the internet to go bye bye as T-Mobile rolls out their 3g. I used the 5.99 plan for years (actually a grandfathered 2.99 plan) then all of a sudden it stopped working... then I saw the guys on the Cell towers and figured it had to do with 3g. So far three months later no 5.99 connections anymore. However the 19.99 plan I have on my Dash works perfectly so I had my free ride long enough I suppose LOL
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I don't get it. you were paying for both plans???? you didn't call tmob for three months? Don't you think that tmob will notify their 5.99 customers that it is no longer available?
timothyjok said:
I don't get it. you were paying for both plans???? you didn't call tmob for three months? Don't you think that tmob will notify their 5.99 customers that it is no longer available?
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Seperate phoes seperate plans. The 5.99 is in reality just for Wap access, not for internet, so why would t-mobile notify anyone since you should not get internt on a Wap plan? The fact that we could get internet on a Wap plan was due to open proxies that are being closed. Why would I call? I got something for free and now I dont.. do you think they would say oh we are sorry you cant keep getting a service for free.. shame on us for closing the hole in our system you were exploitimg.... lol
5.99 plan works for full Internet access. I have used this all around the country - most recently in NY and Atlanta and Sacramento.
Ihave been reading that the 5.99 full Internet is gone for over a year - WRONG. It has even worked outside the US.
Yes - sometimes I can not make a connection. I usually try to stop other programs that are running - sometimes reboot. Not sure if that fixes it - but in any event in a few mins it comes back
work with low speed.
Don't know about low speed. I have tried using with WiFi and I will be darned if Ican tell much of a difference.
the plan 5.99 is not the same that wifi, when u use wifi you are using high speed connected to router or hotspot, the plan 5.99 you are using wap internet connection, less speed
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Don't know about low speed. I have tried using with WiFi and I will be darned if Ican tell much of a difference.
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Bupahs said:
Seperate phoes seperate plans. The 5.99 is in reality just for Wap access, not for internet, so why would t-mobile notify anyone since you should not get internt on a Wap plan? The fact that we could get internet on a Wap plan was due to open proxies that are being closed. Why would I call? I got something for free and now I dont.. do you think they would say oh we are sorry you cant keep getting a service for free.. shame on us for closing the hole in our system you were exploitimg.... lol
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Totally misunderstood your post. I thought you were saying that the 5.99 plan was done and not just the hack. I still have the hack working for me. I understand that 3G is much faster then edge. If that is so I don't mind paying the extra 14.00 for it.
Ok I had a question before deciding on which Touch Pro 2 to get. This question is mainly toward T-Mobile users but I''m sure others will be able to answer this as well...
I was looking at the Touch Pro 2 and since I am on T-mobile I had a few questions. Tried digging aroudn but couldn't find it so if it has already been asked/answered, if you could link me that'd be great.... but...
1) Can any other variation of the Touch Pro 2 be able to use T-Mobiles 3G band. I've heard yes, and no so I was looking for clarification.
2) If I were to get a Touch Pro 2 from T-Mobile will they make me have data? (similar to the G1). AND if I don't get it and decide to just keep my T-Zones, will it work or would they force me off.
I don't browse that often but I like to keep my T-zones as I tether it to my other cheapo 3G phone for use when ever I need it.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
1. Nope. All the other version of the TP2 do not have the 1700/2100 band needed to run on T-Mobile's 3G.
2. Not sure about that, might want to ask them.
1) I'm not 100% sure but I think it's no.
2) Yes, TMo requires a data plan with this phone. If you buy it from another source you should be able to put your SIM card in and use without data or with an existing cheap data plan. There is always the potential that TMo could look at the MEID and realize what you are doing and force the PDA data plan.
Another possibility is to look at the phone at Neweg.com. I noticed that it was for sale with new contracts and it appeared that Newegg was not requiring the data plan at purchase. I don't know if that has changed or if TMo could pull a "gotcha" after you have already bought it.
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I am using T-Mo with a $24.95 a month unlimited data plan and have 3g most of the time...Tj
TrekkerJmm said:
I am using T-Mo with a $24.95 a month unlimited data plan and have 3g most of the time...Tj
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Is this with the T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 or the Unbranded one?
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Is this with the T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 or the Unbranded one?
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The $24.95 data plan is the minimum required data plan for the TP2. This is clearly stated on the website; also if you call CS, like I did to but mine, they'll state it too.
alabij said:
The $24.95 data plan is the minimum required data plan for the TP2. This is clearly stated on the website; also if you call CS, like I did to but mine, they'll state it too.
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I recently had asked what would happen if I were to just put my sim in "my friends touch pro 2" and they said I would be able to use it. I also asked if my data plan would change they said they wouldn't change anything, but instead render that part of the phone unusable until the right plan was added on. So technically I would be able to use the phone and possibly browse the web, but if the browsing the web was an issue, it would stop working and the only way to fix it would be to change my data plan. So so far, so good...
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Is this with the T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 or the Unbranded one?
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Yes This is with the T-mo phone...Tj
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... I also asked if my data plan would change they said they wouldn't change anything, but instead render that part of the phone unusable until the right plan was added on. So technically I would be able to use the phone and possibly browse the web, but if the browsing the web was an issue, it would stop working and the only way to fix it would be to change my data plan. So so far, so good...
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wow i love how they lie to you to try to get you to upgrade your data plan
If you got the unbranded tp2, you might be able to get away with the $5.99 tzones. I would be very surprised if they block data with the tmo tp2 if using the $5.99 or $10.00 data plan. When i went from the g1 to the dash, it asked me to switch data plans and would not allow data. When i went back to the g1, it did it again. Worked for about an hour until i got the "Upgrade subscription" page.
When I first got the phone, the store rep let me keep my 5.99 TZones for a while, I just had to change from epc.tmobile.com to wap.voicestream.com in my settings. Then, my data plan automatically changed to the 24.99 service, in which I called a rep and had them change it back, since I said I don't really do that much web browsing hehe.
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When I first got the phone, the store rep let me keep my 5.99 TZones for a while, I just had to change from epc.tmobile.com to wap.voicestream.com in my settings. Then, my data plan automatically changed to the 24.99 service, in which I called a rep and had them change it back, since I said I don't really do that much web browsing hehe.
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and are you still on the t-zones now? or have they changed you back any other time since?
So far, for the last two weeks or so I am still on TZones (listed as TmobileWeb on my tmobile.com account page).
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So far, for the last two weeks or so I am still on TZones (listed as TmobileWeb on my tmobile.com account page).
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agreed. watching it carefully...
hmm im tempted to get one to try while i wait for the xperia x2... I can nab a BNIB for $400... tempting....
Just picked up a Touch Pro 2. 3G is confirmed working on T-Zones. Lets hope if I don't abuse it I can stay under the radar =)
Hey guys,
I'm calling out all the Tmobile T-zone users ($2.99-$5.99/month).
I recently switched my ROM from the Cell Pro v9.5 to different ROMS running 6.5.3 or 6.5.5.
The first thing I noticed is that the internet speed went back down VERY slow compared to before. I was getting a max of about 170-200kb/sec prior to switching to new ROMS.
After I changed the ROM, my speed went back down to EDGE of around 30-50kb/sec.
I was wondering if any of you are having this problem or if T-mobile cut my speeds down. I was on my way to average about 5GB/month Data, lol.
Thanks!
p.s. What DATA settings are you guys using?
how did you get your touch pro2 to work with tzones? when I had mine I would get " my phone is not compatable with the data plan" even when I would use the proxy hack. I am dying to know how you got your touch pro to work with tzones
wildfxp said:
Hey guys,
I'm calling out all the Tmobile T-zone users ($2.99-$5.99/month).
I recently switched my ROM from the Cell Pro v9.5 to different ROMS running 6.5.3 or 6.5.5.
The first thing I noticed is that the internet speed went back down VERY slow compared to before. I was getting a max of about 170-200kb/sec prior to switching to new ROMS.
After I changed the ROM, my speed went back down to EDGE of around 30-50kb/sec.
I was wondering if any of you are having this problem or if T-mobile cut my speeds down. I was on my way to average about 5GB/month Data, lol.
Thanks!
p.s. What DATA settings are you guys using?
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no settings ...speeds...read sig
josefcrist said:
how did you get your touch pro2 to work with tzones? when I had mine I would get " my phone is not compatable with the data plan" even when I would use the proxy hack. I am dying to know how you got your touch pro to work with tzones
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I use my tp2 with 6.5 (tmo branded) with my 5.99 t-zones.
Used my wing with the proxy...but tp2 no proxy needed.
I got my tp2 using the wmdeals.com and canceling after 21 days.
I have TP2 with the recent Tmobile 6.5 ROM installed(Build 21881.5.0.84), using the HTC Wifi Router program to tether to my laptop and 5.99 TZones. I'm located in San Diego CA.
the best i can get through Speedtest.net is about .95Mbps. I thought T-Mobile is supposed to be up to 7Mbps now???
dapopa9 said:
I have TP2 with the recent Tmobile 6.5 ROM installed(Build 21881.5.0.84), using the HTC Wifi Router program to tether to my laptop and 5.99 TZones. I'm located in San Diego CA.
the best i can get through Speedtest.net is about .95Mbps. I thought T-Mobile is supposed to be up to 7Mbps now???
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The 7Mbps was supposedly just a rumor.
Darn, I hate getting the slow 30-60kb/sec speeds Just 3 days ago, I was up at 170-200kb/sec...
As for the TP2 working on T-zones, I usually just let the ROM set it up for me. I don't do anything special, but I know my wife's $10 dummy phone internet needs the internet2 URL for her TP2.
Try howardforums to check some of the settings they use, good luck!
got an update
i changed the settings of the data and i get 0.9mbit now. this is running the latest .88 radio, so i may switch back to .27 or .57.
my old speeds a few days ago were averaging 1.3mbit
zemangt said:
I use my tp2 with 6.5 (tmo branded) with my 5.99 t-zones.
Used my wing with the proxy...but tp2 no proxy needed.
I got my tp2 using the wmdeals.com and canceling after 21 days.
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tell me more about how you got it please.
i'm running the rom listed in my sig. was using proxy hack with my att fuze. i am running radio 4.49.25.05. with this radio my location service works too!
josefcrist said:
how did you get your touch pro2 to work with tzones? when I had mine I would get " my phone is not compatable with the data plan" even when I would use the proxy hack. I am dying to know how you got your touch pro to work with tzones
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they way mine works is instead of the old proxy settings i use internet2.voicestream.com in the access point name. i was told the proxy settings no longer work. hope this helps
josefcrist said:
how did you get your touch pro2 to work with tzones? when I had mine I would get " my phone is not compatable with the data plan" even when I would use the proxy hack. I am dying to know how you got your touch pro to work with tzones
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I use epc.tmobile.com for internet and wap.voicestream.com for mms
josefcrist said:
tell me more about how you got it please.
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how I got the tp2?
go to wmdeals.com call the 800# (t-mobile business) and mention the code
order the phone for free with no activation fee (2 year contract)
you can also opt for unlimited texts instead of $30 internet (only if your plan does not have a family text plan already).
it is best if you have a family plan and can add one line ($9.99).
Do so at the start of your monthly minutes so you don't pay taxes twice if you are going to cancel after 21 days.
call tmo after 21 days(after receiving the phone) and cancel the new line.
pay the $200 etf plus the prorated fees for the line + taxes+regulatory fee and keep the tp2.
Do you still have t-zones?
If so, pop the sim card with the t-zones and you are good to go.
zemangt said:
how I got the tp2?
go to wmdeals.com call the 800# (t-mobile business) and mention the code
order the phone for free with no activation fee (2 year contract)
you can also opt for unlimited texts instead of $30 internet (only if your plan does not have a family text plan already).
it is best if you have a family plan and can add one line ($9.99).
Do so at the start of your monthly minutes so you don't pay taxes twice if you are going to cancel after 21 days.
call tmo after 21 days(after receiving the phone) and cancel the new line.
pay the $200 etf plus the prorated fees for the line + taxes+regulatory fee and keep the tp2.
Do you still have t-zones?
If so, pop the sim card with the t-zones and you are good to go.
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seriously that is what you did? i thought you would have to pay the full price of the phone.
woke up today and tried checking the weather...couldnt get a connection. Then used opera and it said i needed a subscription upgrade. Is this the end of the 5.99 tzone? Im running the energy rom and had no problem until this morning. I really hope its a data/network hiccup and resume back to the way it was...soon!
I also tried using wap.voicestream.com and epc.tmobile.com with no luck.
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woke up today and tried checking the weather...couldnt get a connection. Then used opera and it said i needed a subscription upgrade. Is this the end of the 5.99 tzone? Im running the energy rom and had no problem until this morning. I really hope its a data/network hiccup and resume back to the way it was...soon!
I also tried using wap.voicestream.com and epc.tmobile.com with no luck.
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The $5.99 plan is not for smartphones. You'll need the normal data plan for the TP2. It normally connects through internet2.voicestream.com or internet3.voicestream.com. wap.voicestream.com is used for MMS.
I'm getting the same subscription upgrade required message. I have been using the $5.99 data plan for about three years on my smartphone just fine until today. Like the OP, I tried all available APN settings to no avail. Anyone have any suggestions?
dmercado_gto said:
I'm getting the same subscription upgrade required message. I have using the $5.99 data plan for about three years on my smartphone just fine until today. Like the OP, I tried all available APN settings to no avail. Anyone have any suggestions?
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Look up one post. I just provided the answer. It doesn't matter how long you've been using it. T-Mobile is changing the data access policies. You can no longer connect to the Internet on your TP2 with the $5.99 plan. You need to either use a non-smartphone device, or upgrade your plan. There is no way around it.
dmercado_gto said:
I'm getting the same subscription upgrade required message. I have been using the $5.99 data plan for about three years on my smartphone just fine until today. Like the OP, I tried all available APN settings to no avail. Anyone have any suggestions?
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You are lucky that is all you are receiving. Their normal mode is to charge $1.99 per megabyte of download.
cajunflavoredbob said:
Look up one post. I just provided the answer. It doesn't matter how long you've been using it. T-Mobile is changing the data access policies. You can no longer connect to the Internet on your TP2 with the $5.99 plan. You need to either use a non-smartphone device, or upgrade your plan. There is no way around it.
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Is that so...
sry to break it to you...but my 3G is back, 5.99 tzone lives on! Around 4pm, i tried it and was successful. This maybe like the hiccup that happened a few years ago. Lets hope everything goes back to the way it was. Streaming slacker radio now...
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Is that so...
sry to break it to you...but my 3G is back, 5.99 tzone lives on! Around 4pm, i tried it and was successful. This maybe like the hiccup that happened a few years ago. Lets hope everything goes back to the way it was. Streaming slacker radio now...
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I talked to T-Mobile Blackberry/PDA Support or Tier 2/3 to some others. Most of us remember about this time last year they doing something similar to what they did Tuesday. Talking to TMBS, earlier in the day they were killing T-Mobile Web aka Unlimited T-Zones to Smartphones. I talked to another guy this evening that said the same thing with one caveat...which I asked what about those of us who have grandfathered data plans?
He looked over our account codes...whatever that means and he made the observation that the instructions for our SIM cards were erased in regards to our data plan which he said he put the instructions back. I was on the horn with him at the same time our internet came back up through no editing of our network connections, so I have no idea what to think.
I don't know if what was done today was a prelude to the introduction of Windows Phone 7 devices starting next month. I'm told T-Mobile will introduce 3 Windows Phone 7 devices for the upcoming holiday season - HTC Mozart aka HD3/7...take your pick, a LG and Samsung variation. Assuming they don't toy with our internet plans as they currently are I have to believe it will be a repeat of the Touch Pro 2 and HD2 Leo. You buy the device retail you can stay on T-Mobile Web.
All that said, I couldn't tell you whether it's all script or the truth.
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Look up one post. I just provided the answer. It doesn't matter how long you've been using it. T-Mobile is changing the data access policies. You can no longer connect to the Internet on your TP2 with the $5.99 plan. You need to either use a non-smartphone device, or upgrade your plan. There is no way around it.
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Well. T-zones is back up and running as of yesterday evening with my smartphone. Hopefully this was just a temporary outage.
Edge was working all through
dmercado_gto said:
Well. T-zones is back up and running as of yesterday evening with my smartphone. Hopefully this was just a temporary outage.
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Glad it is back. I have mine for more than 5yrs. But during this outage for last couple of days, I turned off 3G and it was working fine on Edge. Of course on 3G I was getting same subscription error.
can you just use the wifi to connect to the web when you need to?
not sure but some apps may have to verify cellular connectivity is available before they will allow wifi...(ie the app has to successfully access the cellular network internet once)
There's an option in the OOBE to disable cell data.
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There's an option in the OOBE to disable cell data.
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on my phone (hd7) you can turn of data connection and you can turn of 3g
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can you just use the wifi to connect to the web when you need to?
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Yes, but you cannot get a smartphone on contract without a data plan. No carrier will let you do that. The only way to do this is to pay $600+ (i.e. full price) for the phone and use a Pay-Go plan.
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can you just use the wifi to connect to the web when you need to?
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yes ..just like anything else
Think orange do phones without a data plan
no, the data plan saved my ass a good many times since I've had the HD7. had the iphone 3g before w/o data and it suck balls when you aren't near any hotspot or wifi and need to get an address/number/info (had no data because I didn't feel like paying $25 for edge network)
buy yourself an ipod and get yourself a free feature phone with no data plan.
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buy yourself an ipod and get yourself a free feature phone with no data plan.
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and be limited to wifi calling and paying to call a land line? no thanks.
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and be limited to wifi calling and paying to call a land line? no thanks.
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that is what the feature phone is for.....
i use my unlocked hermes on Tmo w/o paying for data plan =) it's pretty close to dying... just wanted to continue my non-paying of data plan w/upgraded smartphone
Wp7 pretty much cannot even function optimally without a data plan. I guess an HD2 would work okay if u didn't set up twitter/fb/activesync to sync automatically. IPhones would also work better since they're less commected... But WP7/Android are basically tethered to a data plan for decent opetation.
These arent feature phones...
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Wp7 pretty much cannot even function optimally without a data plan. I guess an HD2 would work okay if u didn't set up twitter/fb/activesync to sync automatically. IPhones would also work better since they're less commected... But WP7/Android are basically tethered to a data plan for decent opetation.
These arent feature phones...
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your right one that one , way should you buy a phone like this without a data plan ?
this is a cloud based phone so you actually need the data plan and if you don't like that don't buy it .
Everytime I read one of my posts from my phone, I realize why I hate posting from a touchscreen keyboard :<
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can you just use the wifi to connect to the web when you need to?
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Yes you can use just wifi. I have been using my HD7 with the $9.99 webtogo unlimited internet package { Max 5 gb before throttling } getting hsdpa (3G+ • 3.5) speeds using [ Internet2.voicestream.com ]. I am not locked in a contract because I bought the phone using the EM plan T-mobile offers.
good2know, thanks sly. i'd still like to wait for all the bugs to be ironed out and also can't live w/o my custom ringtones. once these issues get ironed out i'll jump in.
Yes
To answer the original question:
YES you can use WP7 without a data plan. I suppose if you are at home or work most of the time, then what the heck, save the $30. Internet on WP7 is much faster on WiFi than 3G (at least Rogers/Fido).
You can even use WP7 without a SIM (no voice, no data). It works great to play to play XBOX Live games and as a portable browser and mail client, LOL.
Also, you CAN buy the phone without a data plan (or a voice plan) -- you just have to pay the unsubsidized price.
thanks for the reply =)
I use my WP7 with data off almost 99% of the time and everything works just fine.