With all the things we can do with this PPC, coming loaded with 512 MB ROM / 288 MB RAM, and the fact i've got over a GIG of free space on my SD card and no real interest to put movies or music on it.
Can i add that spare memory into windows, maybe give it a few extra megs of RAM.
It would be crazy if something like this were impossible.
Well, technically it wouldn't be RAM but rather SWAP or VRAM (VirtualRAM) as it's called on Windows. Not as good as actual RAM, but good for being able to handle more programs without too much bottlenecking.
No idea how to do it, though I used to do it on an old Linux based phone. Good luck finding an answer, I'd like to have this as an option as well
LOl yes i know, but thank-you for the reminder. It was just easier to say RAM than going into the explanation I'm thinking this shouldn't be a major issue.
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I'm currently using a TP2 and I don't have enough RAM. Part of the reason and I know it's my fault is the customization of the phone with different toys and apps. This is my fault not the phone. So far the phone is working flawlessly.
What I have is over a gig and a half of a 2 gig memory card in my phone completely free. What I would like to do is use the spare memory as RAM, allowing the phone all the necessary space it needs.
If I keep going on this thought, would rebuilding the OS with the sd card as the primary install location work as well. This would give us gigs of space to install and gigs or RAM to work with esp if you have a 6 or 8 gig sd card.
Any thoughts?
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I'm currently using a TP2 and I don't have enough RAM. Part of the reason and I know it's my fault is the customization of the phone with different toys and apps. This is my fault not the phone. So far the phone is working flawlessly.
What I have is over a gig and a half of a 2 gig memory card in my phone completely free. What I would like to do is use the spare memory as RAM, allowing the phone all the necessary space it needs.
If I keep going on this thought, would rebuilding the OS with the sd card as the primary install location work as well. This would give us gigs of space to install and gigs or RAM to work with esp if you have a 6 or 8 gig sd card.
Any thoughts?
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You can't (as the end-user) use a storage card as Virtual RAM.
However, I believe that WinMo 6.5 does allow for virtual RAM to be used through the internal storage, but that will require you cooking the ROM yourself, etc. I've never messed around with that though, since the device I cooked for didn't have a native nk.exe. The TP2 does, however, so you can experiment away.
And remember, RAM = Program Memory, the space where currently running programs temporarily store their information for quick read access (Random Access Module).
Don't confuse it with Storage Space, which is where data is permanently stored. I think you understand the difference.
Thank you for the benefit of the doubt lol. Yes I do understand the difference thats why i was thinking if the SD memory could in essence be used to build the OS, because it is no different that the ROM in the sole exception that it's easier to remove.
But also in that same sense (and this might be a stretch) Vista is capable of using a removable memory stick as virtual ram to speed up your PC's functionality. If that is possible there, and you've got a 8 gig SD card in your phone, splitting it off for virtual RAM is hopefully possible.
Maybe even think of it this was. 9 gig SD card, almost like partitioning a hard drive. 3 setup for virtual RAM, 3 setup as storage, 3 setup for ROM access to load the OS.
Or am i thinking WAY to far outside the box of possibilities?
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Thank you for the benefit of the doubt lol. Yes I do understand the difference thats why i was thinking if the SD memory could in essence be used to build the OS, because it is no different that the ROM in the sole exception that it's easier to remove.
But also in that same sense (and this might be a stretch) Vista is capable of using a removable memory stick as virtual ram to speed up your PC's functionality. If that is possible there, and you've got a 8 gig SD card in your phone, splitting it off for virtual RAM is hopefully possible.
Maybe even think of it this was. 9 gig SD card, almost like partitioning a hard drive. 3 setup for virtual RAM, 3 setup as storage, 3 setup for ROM access to load the OS.
Or am i thinking WAY to far outside the box of possibilities?
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Eh, this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544445) will have all and enough information for you
Post 2 discusses Virtual Memory. Yea, I don't know what all that mumbo-jumbo means, since I never cooked for one of the newer, nk.exe WM6.5 compatible devices. But you'll find all the info on the new WM6.5 ROM's and cooking it, etc, on that thread. Enjoy the hefty reading!
Can someone who actually HAS the phone verify this for me?
Over here it says 740
http://www.androidcentral.com/droid-incredible-vs-evo-4g-vs-nexus-one
AC claims to have gotten this info direct from HTC
http://www.androidcentral.com/about-rom-storage-droid-incredible
Verizon website says 512, and a couple others say 512 as well.
So what's going on here?
I can tell you what mine says:
Internal Phone Storage: 6.60 GB
Phone memory: 748 MB
HTH
Same here... my best guess is after the 512mb of RAM and 512mb of ROM this is what's left over for the user?
I have :
Internal Phone Storage: 6.60 GB
Phone memory: 748 MB
I have 748 Total, and 685 of that available.
Even 512 would have been plenty.
Interesting.. I wonder why they wouldn't capitalize on that by at least showing it on the main website or verizon..
http://www.htc.com/us/products/droid-incredible-verizon?view=1-1&sort=0#tech-specs
If it were true, i don't get it. Having 748 over 512 is a huge deal.
When I see 512 I cry a little inside wondering if it's gonna run out of app space
It's possibly a miscalculation or error in the software. Maybe it should be 512 after all, since both the verizon and HTC pages for the phone have no indication of any more than 512MB of ROM..
Also I hear we're not able to install apps to the 8GB onboard, sans root.
What will change with the arrival of Froyo?
Will we be able to send apps to the 8gb as well as the sdcard?
That would put me at ease..
EDIT: God HTC has done a really crappy job with reporting specs on this phone!!
http://shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=37106
Over here it says the incredible has a 2.5mm headphone jack while on the tech spec page above (still on HTCs website) it says 3.5 (which I know to be true)
This, and the ROM crap is making me consider another phone, as this one appears to have been poorly executed.
I don't think this is a big deal...
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Also I hear we're not able to install apps to the 8GB onboard, sans root.
What will change with the arrival of Froyo?
Will we be able to send apps to the 8gb as well as the sdcard?
That would put me at ease..
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Considering that EVERY android up to this point has not been able to do this without root, it is kind of a mute point. Froyo is supposed to change that, but it hasn't made that much of a deal up until now.
No other Android device that I know of has Internal 8gb storage either, not even the EVO...
I don't mean it as a point against the phone.
Simply noting that theres 8gb memory that COULD be used for app storage.
So i hope with froyo they implement a nice way to send apps to the 8gb memory OR the sdcard. Rather than only the sdcard.
The 8GB onboard is great, and knowing that i can have upto 40GB space available on my phone is pretty wonderful.
I just want to be sure that I can use every bit the way I want.
I had the G1 and root was more of a necessity than "extra benefit".
So I just hope the incredible doesn't need third party intervention to be the phone we all want it to be.
I don't think thats too much asked.
On my g1 I had about 400+ apps, and I KNOW that if I only have the 512 rom for app storage I'll be running out at one point or another..
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If it were true, i don't get it. Having 748 over 512 is a huge deal.
When I see 512 I cry a little inside wondering if it's gonna run out of app space
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Regardless of 512 or 748 I wouldn't worry about running out of app space. I don't know of anyone who has. Even on the smaller droid I didn't know anyone who.did.
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I got my (allegedly) 16GB Note 2 on Saturday and installed loads of stuff, including some pretty big Gameloft games. When I go into Storage from the Settings it says that my device memory has total space of 10.36GB with 2.98GB of it left. The fact that 7.38Gb is used up is probably about right given all the large games I've got on there, but why is the total space only reporting as 10.36GB when it's a 16GB model I bought? I'd expect some space to be used up by the OS itself and the various protected system partitions that come with it obviously, but does Jellybean really consume the GBs of space that make the difference between the 10.36GB reported and the 16GB that should be on there?
I used a disk info app to see what was going on and have attached a screenshot of it's output. I'm not sure what the difference is between the Data and SD card partitions there. Note that I do have a proper external SD card in the phone but it's only 2GB and so isn't any of those partitions. Anyone know what I'm seeing here and where my 16GB has gone?
Yes, this is the available amount of of space you get in this phone.
Its not just this phone! Any phone you get from market will have less user-available storage.
One X is said to be 32 gb but you can use only 25 gb
Here is a mod whoch can increase your space to around a bit above 11 gb http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1931500
Any 16 gb phone made has around this much user available space rest is OS and other stuff.
HINT: buy a 32 gb memory card? it will replace your internal memory card need exactl as if it was internal memory storage.
How? You can transfer all apps to SD Card using titanium backup so your phone memory and SD card memory is basically unified.
Read this: http://compreviews.about.com/od/storage/a/ActualHDSizes.htm
Partitions of the SGS III (I assume pretty much the same in Note II):
/system: 1G
/data: 11G (shared with /sdcard)
/cache: 1G
Add to this space required by OS and installed apps.
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Partitions of the SGS III (I assume pretty much the same in Note II):
/system: 1G
/data: 11G (shared with /sdcard)
/cache: 1G
Add to this space required by OS and installed apps.
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The 'Advertised vs actual' factor as described in that article would take just over 1GB away from a 16GB start (70.3 MB x 16 = 1.12GB).
Adding in the Cache, System and Data/SD Card values from my screenshot would take us up to 13-and-a-bit GB. (1.12 GB + 1GB + 1GB + 10GB = 13.12GB)
The System partition hold the OS and any other baked in stuff (as I understand it) so where's the other 2-and-a-bit GB?
I'm sure it's all explainable so I'm just curious to know how this works. I thought I remembered having more free space on my previous Note and the GSII before it (both of which were advertised as 16GB) but perhaps I'm misremembering.
Medulla said:
The 'Advertised vs actual' factor as described in that article would take just over 1GB away from a 16GB start (70.3 MB x 16 = 1.12GB).
Adding in the Cache, System and Data/SD Card values from my screenshot would take us up to 13-and-a-bit GB. (1.12 GB + 1GB + 1GB + 10GB = 13.12GB)
The System partition hold the OS and any other baked in stuff (as I understand it) so where's the other 2-and-a-bit GB?
I'm sure it's all explainable so I'm just curious to know how this works. I thought I remembered having more free space on my previous Note and the GSII before it (both of which were advertised as 16GB) but perhaps I'm misremembering.
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It would be interesting to get a clear answer for sure... I have a 64GB SDXC with 30GB free space on it and I can't think of anything else I would need that isn't already on there, I couldn't fill it up even if I tried. Also I still have 8GB free on my internal...
I don't listen to music on my phone, I have a dedicated player for that, so that's why I don't need tons of space... and that's why I don't really reflect on these things, but am a bit curious indeed about why the available space is so much less than 16GB.
Kiahnlliya said:
It would be interesting to get a clear answer for sure... I have a 64GB SDXC with 30GB free space on it and I can't think of anything else I would need that isn't already on there, I couldn't fill it up even if I tried. Also I still have 8GB free on my internal...
I don't listen to music on my phone, I have a dedicated player for that, so that's why I don't need tons of space... and that's why I don't really reflect on these things, but am a bit curious indeed about why the available space is so much less than 16GB.
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My usage is pretty much the same as yours (external SD card with a few things on it and separate dedicated mp3 player) so it's not something I'd usually notice either. The only reason I've clocked it this time is because I bought a few GB and bigger sized games in the recent 25p Google Play store all of which I've installed as soon as I set the phone up on Saturday; whereas usually I'd install one 'proper' game and only install a new one when I'd finished the last one. So, as such, this is probably about as full as my phone will ever be and not something that'll cause any problems, but it would be good to understand what's going on here.
Hey guys!
I noticed in the specifications of this phone, it claims to have 0.50gb of RAM (512mb) However all your kernels are around 370 of under?
Is this mistake in the specifications or are you lowering Ram for some strange reason unknown to me?
I'm using liquid smooth build#2 at the moment, but i'm only getting around 99mb free Ram.. I don't know why but it seems the Phone has less Ram then i initially thought.. However, i don't have any scripts going at the moment, i don't need battery, so any " and it's good on battery " will be respectively ignored.
I have looked around but not really found a decent enough set up for this phone yet.. Can someone please recommend me a kernel for 4.2.2 which is fast, and responsive, but also one with good Ram?
And can someone recommend some scripts worth using with this Phone? Again, don't go on about battery or SD life or phone life, idc about it, it's a spare phone..
Thanks in advance guys, could you provide me with links as well if it's not too much trouble? I prefer being directed straight to the point so i don't end up using the wrong Kernel/script..
Edit1: I'm not changing Rom. At all. unless you get an updated Carbon or 4.3.
Penguin450 said:
Hey guys!
I noticed in the specifications of this phone, it claims to have 0.50gb of RAM (512mb) However all your kernels are around 370 of under?
Is this mistake in the specifications or are you lowering Ram for some strange reason unknown to me?
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Seems noone is willing to reply, but this probably because some searching and logical thinking would answer your questions. So since you are not willing to do it yourself others don´t mind replying to you.
So well I don´t use any scripts but regarding RAM size think about it. If you buy a PC with lets say 2GB installed RAM. Will you get also 2GB free ram by running an Operating System on it?
honeyx said:
Seems noone is willing to reply, but this probably because some searching and logical thinking would answer your questions. So since you are not willing to do it yourself others don´t mind replying to you.
So well I don´t use any scripts but regarding RAM size think about it. If you buy a PC with lets say 2GB installed RAM. Will you get also 2GB free ram by running an Operating System on it?
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If you were to purchase 2gb of ram likelyhood is you will recieve 1.59+- usable Ram, free Ram would be totally different, however the way it was presented, and the way i portrayed it was thet the Ramdisk of the kernel was at 370+-, rather then 512.. I'm using a Desire C, which is running CM10 with 300mb free ram, with a 512mb ram disk, whereas with hurtskys kernel 3.0.x i get 99mb free? on 4.2.2 on my golfu i got 270mb free ram, and that was a Rom of 250mb+ and it's only at 767mhz.. yet seems smoother then the SGW? :s On paper it should be the other way around..
dun think u should worry about free ram.
android is based on linux, linux memory concept is different from other OS.
it something like " free memory is waste memory".
memory is always filled and hold so tat it wont waste time to reload.
if need more memory, system will free memory for other usage.
maybe this will help explain better, http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
Penguin450 said:
If you were to purchase 2gb of ram likelyhood is you will recieve 1.59+- usable Ram, free Ram would be totally different, however the way it was presented, and the way i portrayed it was thet the Ramdisk of the kernel was at 370+-, rather then 512.. I'm using a Desire C, which is running CM10 with 300mb free ram, with a 512mb ram disk, whereas with hurtskys kernel 3.0.x i get 99mb free? on 4.2.2 on my golfu i got 270mb free ram, and that was a Rom of 250mb+ and it's only at 767mhz.. yet seems smoother then the SGW? :s On paper it should be the other way around..
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You should first read what a ramdisk is. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ramdisk
The 270+MB in hurtskys or my kernel is the real RAM aviable. The rest is reserved for the ROM, camera, drivers and processes to work correctly.
Hey guys I have a Xperia s running on 6.0.1 aosp ROM...it is rooted and repartitioned ...can anyone tell me how to get the complete 32gb and 1gb ram coz the custom ROM has eaten my 3gb internal and I need full 1gb ram ..thks
Have you ever used a computer before?
The OS needs resources, it's a piece of software after all. The GPU will, in turn take some RAM, as it's not exactly a GeForce with dedicated RAM.
In other words, the only way you're getting 32 GB and 1 GB of RAM is if you uninstall everything, including the OS. Good luck doing anything with it other than holding down some sheets of paper or balancing a table.