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Prepping for GPS/Rev A ...

Well, it's March and that means that the Vogue is going to get GPS and Rev A soon! What are you guys doing to prep?
I'm trying to compare GPS software, seeing which one is the best out right now, so far TomTom 6 seems to be the top dog... Does anyone have any GPS advice?

I personally like iGuidance v4. The maps for my area were more complete than TomTom, plus it actually has voice street names instead of "turn right in 1 mile". Just wish it could get traffic updates.

IGuidance 4 for 3 reasons
TTS - Text To Speech (It can read street names, TomTom cannot)
NAVTEQ maps can tell you which side of the road your destination is on (this great for at night, TomTom cannot).
IGuidance does not lock you to your phone. Hard reset, get annother phone just install the cab and your up.
TomTom does have a nice user interface but the features above are important to me.

I was looking at a bunch of gps software recently (in anticipation of the aforementioned update) and found a few notable ones. Theres a nice roundup site by this sir Dale DePriest here http://www.gpsinformation.org/dale/PocketPC/wince.htm I think is worth mentioning.
From the ones I've looked at, ALK Copilot 7 and iGo 8 (search igo8 in youtube, and I do believe version 8 is a beta) look the nicest.

thanks guys, pretty nice info... I'm hearing that iGo isn't exactly the most accurate app on the planet, but iGo v8 looks very nice!

thinkoftheirony said:
I was looking at a bunch of gps software recently (in anticipation of the aforementioned update) and found a few notable ones. Theres a nice roundup site by this sir Dale DePriest here http://www.gpsinformation.org/dale/PocketPC/wince.htm I think is worth mentioning.
From the ones I've looked at, ALK Copilot 7 and iGo 8 (search igo8 in youtube, and I do believe version 8 is a beta) look the nicest.
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I have CoPilot 7 because I had a Q and this was the best Smartphone GPS app out there. It has alot of nice features, but the maps weren't as current as iGuidance v4 (atleast in my area), and there's no TTS for street names (although their tech support says they are working on releasing a patch for that).
CoPilot can get live traffic updates and re-route you. You can also send a link to someone and they can watch you on a map as you drive (this uses the internet on your phone of course).

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I have CoPilot 7 because I had a Q and this was the best Smartphone GPS app out there. It has alot of nice features, but the maps weren't as current as iGuidance v4 (atleast in my area), and there's no TTS for street names (although their tech support says they are working on releasing a patch for that).
CoPilot can get live traffic updates and re-route you. You can also send a link to someone and they can watch you on a map as you drive (this uses the internet on your phone of course).
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a little off topic here, but i'm using CoPilot Live 7 and i'd like to know how you activated Traffic updates...did you activate via the web?

I have tom tom on my touch already-just waiting. I'm also waiting for my 4GB mem card cause my current one is full with all the maps

Sorry i was out of touch (no pun intended) for a few days. Did i miss an official anouncement from sprint or HTC about the update to enable GPS ? thanks

gps/rev a update for the sprint touch isnt out yet and not for another 1-3 months
--James

storino03 said:
gps/rev a update for the sprint touch isnt out yet and not for another 1-3 months
--James
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That takes us to June, but I've also seen maybe August.

I use tomtom 6 and Navigon 6.2 right now.. as far as interface goes.. Navigon is way way nicer. If you cant wait for the GPS patch just get a bluetooth gps reciever and start trying the programs out now.

my vote goes to iGO, tomtom close second.

pls any one here knows if jas jam have gps in it or not?
i heared it has gps impeded in it but need software to activate it...is the tru? and what to do to activate it ?

My big step is to move absolutely _EVERYTHING_ I setup or install to a cab file that is installable via User Customization. I want to be prepared to have minimal down-time, when the new ROM gets pushed by Sprint/HTC.
Presumably it will include a new Radio, which will probably be most-easily installed by flashing the entire ROM from Sprint/HTC. Then, re-unlocking, loading the stock ROM into a kitchen and dropping in SDSetup so that all my stuff gets installed and configured.
... in the beginning, I'll be fine with Google Maps and/or Microsoft Search and their (presumably) built-in support for the GPS.

The ROM Update you have all been waiting for...
After getting tired of waiting for HTC to make their website work, I did some digging around, and I give you [pause for dramatic effect]....
http://216.139.227.226/alltel/RUU_V..._NV2.00_PRL30008_0331_Ship_withSpecialNBH.exe
The link on their page does not work, but I just successfully downloaded this ROM.
Remember, this is for the Alltel Touch ONLY.
Hope it helps!

Does this Alltel ROM support GPS and Rev A? Can we easily port it (or just the radio ROM) to Sprint? Thanks in advance!
MJB

I know it supports Rev A but I am not POSITIVE about its GPS functionality. I know that the update for the 6800 [released at the same time] does, and since it updated the radio as well as the ROM image, and considering HTC was planning on unlocking the GPS radio in this handset, my ASSUMPTION would be that the GPS is now active - of course, I haven't been able to get it to work yet...

Best GPS navigation software on Trinity?

Hi, All,
Can we share some experiences on the GPS navigation software used on our Trinity? I currently is using TomTom 6 originally came with the phone, but I really don't like it's graphical interface, nor the accuracies of the direction instructions. Sometimes it will tell me to turn right, then make a U-turn down the road in order to do a simple left turn. I the intersection where I'm supposed to make a left turn does allow left turn traffic. Even I updated the map, it is still giving me ambiguous directions.
What's your experience with the GPS navigation software you are using? Does anybody have the guts to claim one is superior to the others and why?
Regards,
Dinky

Navigon MobileNavigator 6 is one of the best, and has a very beautiful and easy to operate interface. You must have 20mb of ram free when you launch it.
See here: Mobile Navigator 6

Hi Dinky,
I have Nav N Go iGO My way 8. I complete change this GPS software over my TomTom. It is very fast software, easy install, intuitive control, skins, 3D landmarks, 3D city maps. I seee flyover very good first time. I have all europ maps in the 2 GB card. Maps have current date feb. 2008.
More info about iGo8 is here :iGO8

+1 iGo 8
Was running iGo 2006 Plus as it had better resolution maps and was smoother than TomTom 6.02.
iGo 8 is even better, but the Trinity doesn't have the grunt to navigate and do text-to-speech directions at the same time.

I thought Nav N Go 8 hadn't been released yet. It certainly doesn't look to have been on their website.

i have tomtom 6.03
works great on WM6.1

Nav N Go 8 is Good & works fine on my Trinity
This is the Link i got it from
iGO8 v8.0.0.31442

oVan said:
Navigon MobileNavigator 6 is one of the best, and has a very beautiful and easy to operate interface. You must have 20mb of ram free when you launch it.
See here: Mobile Navigator 6
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Hi,
was there not a problem with MN6.2 when driving in a tunnel.
I always had the problem that inside the tunnel MN6 said i've been arrived when the gps signal was lost.
Do you have a solution for that?
My favourite is also iGO8! Only disadvantage is that iGO has Teleatlas maps and no Navteq. But this is dipending on the region you live and only some streets are not actual. So it is not a big problem. With Tomtom in the past you have had both possibilities.
sole71

sole71 said:
Hi,
was there not a problem with MN6.2 when driving in a tunnel.
I always had the problem that inside the tunnel MN6 said i've been arrived when the gps signal was lost.
Do you have a solution for that?
sole71
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True... this does not happen with an external receiver, only with the gps receiver from the trinity itself. After a tunnel I just choose "Last destinations" and you're quickly on track again. That's about the only problem I have with this software, the routes are very good and the interface is very clean.

I am using Garmin Mobile XT on my WM6 Trinity.
The maps are City Navigator Europe 2008 NT (Maps dated oct 2007).
The interface is a little awkward, and the 3d view a little sluggish, also the spoken directions are a little too late for my taste. On the other hand I drive fast ;-)
The maps are very good (navteq), you can puzzle your own Europe map and load it on the MiniSD Card.
All in all its not bad, with better maps than Tomtom6

pauleley said:
Nav N Go 8 is Good & works fine on my Trinity
This is the Link i got it from
iGO8 v8.0.0.31442
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How do you get it to work? Do you change the sys.txt?
I get nothing but "out of memory" and "fatal error" once the interface has loaded.

oVan said:
I get nothing but "out of memory" and "fatal error" once the interface has loaded.
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Through schaps advanced config, put the cache file to 2MB
Your location will determine the soft
Use the one with the latest maps
I've try ViaMichelin ( Horrible ), Route66 (average ), Garmin XT ( don't like the view ), TT6 ( Efficient most of time, lot of pois, poor view ), iGO 2006+ ( nice ) and now iGO8 ( Very good )

corfou said:
Through schaps advanced config, put the cache file to 2MB
Your location will determine the soft
Use the one with the latest maps
I've try ViaMichelin ( Horrible ), Route66 (average ), Garmin XT ( don't like the view ), TT6 ( Efficient most of time, lot of pois, poor view ), iGO 2006+ ( nice ) and now iGO8 ( Very good )
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Got it partially working now, the interface is really fast...but oh so complicated. The difference with Navigon is day & night, Navigon worked together with Fraunhofer Institute to make the UI user-friendly and it shows.

Sounds like a lot people prefer iGo8, I'd like to give it a try. I travel a lot in North America including Canada. Does anyone have all iGo8 North America maps in one zip file? Thx.

iGo8 only has euro version

You may find a user feedback for different GPS softs here (in French):
http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=44960

When I start iGO 8 with 25mb free ram, it frequently fails to calculate a route of 130km. It uses a lot of memory... I'll give up now

hi
dont have any gps navigation with map full 3D of iberia? a like iGO8 grafic but I never try it...
regards

I've always used, and never found better GPS software than TT6, untill now! Igo8 is fantastic, a memory hog but works smoothly. Only (Big) problem is I cannot pick up call whilst igo is running. I changed the page mem to 2mb, but either the call is lost or igo crashes.
Any suggestions??

In Australia, I use CoPilot 7, that came with my P3600i.
Doesn't use much memory, and looks great and runs pretty snappy.
In my opinion, TomTom looks horrible - I don't know why it's become so popular.
iGo is alright, but the interface is too cluttered and as some people have said, it is definitely a memory hog.
CoPilot for me so far

Memory Map and HD

Hi all,
My HD arrives tomorrow, on contract, . Has anyone tried and got Memory Map to work on this? I cannot see it on the list working or otherwise
This is going to replace my Toshiba G900 and my Dell Axim 51v and Holox GPS.
I have a 5day cooling off period with the contract The Terms and conditions of Orange probably mean i will not be able to open the box so some advice would be great.
TIA
Paul

From my understanding the program should scale it up, i know it works fine with VGA screens and from the tech support guys that make it i get the feeling it not hard coded to work at any given screen res, in their words it will fill the screen of the device in question.
The nature of the program wouldnt make any difference to the map displayed, it would just show more of it.
So, its a slightly educated guess but id bet it will work fine, at least in portrate mode.

Memory Map
Hi all,
pleased to say memory map does work. Just set it nmea and com02 and away it went.
The icons are a little blurred but work, though the maps are perfect.
Wiki updated
Paul D

oneflewover said:
Hi all,
pleased to say memory map does work. Just set it nmea and com02 and away it went.
The icons are a little blurred but work, though the maps are perfect.
Wiki updated
Paul D
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Thanks Paul for updating the Wiki with your item.
Beards

Memory Map works for me, but when I try to use the GPS, it says "License not valid for GPS Plot" even though it is a perfectly good licence. Anyone seen this message?

Is Memory Map the only Ordinance Survey mapping software available now for the Pocket PC?
Beards.

Yes - Anquet 6.2.7 Beta...
I'm currently testing the Beta of Anquet 6.2.7 http://www.anquet.co.uk/pocket-anquet.htm, and it works great!
(I don't know the release date of the full version, but it's good.)
Dan./

It's not 100% compatible with the WVGA screen resolution. The bottom of the map can become corrupted if you scroll the map.
Also, if you hide the toolbar then this part of the screen becomes corrupted.
With regard to licensing, the latest version of MM has changed to an online licence mechanism which may be the problem with GPS.

DanInBlack said:
I'm currently testing the Beta of Anquet 6.2.7 http://www.anquet.co.uk/pocket-anquet.htm, and it works great!
(I don't know the release date of the full version, but it's good.)
Dan./
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That looks extremely easy to use.
It's just a shame like MM purchasing of maps is so expensive.
Beards

Touch HD - Cannot open Memory Map map files over 100MB
I have been using Memory Map's Pocket Navigator on numerous HTC devices without a problem, but for some reason I cannot open map files on my HTC Touch HD that are over 100MB in size. This is strange because I just managed to open a map on my Advantage that is over 250MB. I am wondering if this has to do with the vastly improved memory capacity on the Touch HD? It so happens that when I check available program memory it shows 115MB or so. Does the Touch HD manage large files in memory differently than previous HTC devices? The maximum map size in Pocket Navigator is 400MB. Can anyone think of a way around this?
I will post a similar question on the general forum since I think it is a general configuration issue rather than a Memory Map issue.

I have exactly the same problem. I have had to cut London up into several bits!

Update from Memory Map Support on File Size Problem
Here is what Memory Map support have said about this:
"There is nothing we can do to fix this I am afraid. The error seems evident to varying degrees on all Windows Mobile 6.1 PDA devices."
My previous devices were WM6.0, so that is probably why I did not face this problem. I would be very interested to know if anyone has figured out a way to solve this.

Mine reads them Ok but only for a short while - maybe 2 or 3 openings then needs a soft reset.
This was not that easy on top of Great Knoutberry Hill in a blizzard last week!
Had to rely on 1000year old technology.

Same problem for me. Previously used on a Touch and an Atom Life without problem, but both WM 6.0 devices. On HD wound that a 120MB file would sometimes open but not reliably. Have now made all maps under 100MB and so far no probs. Bit iof a pain really, especially as it seems to work really well in other respects. Very pleased with how quick the onboard gps gets a fix, and seems accurate.
Other thing I've noticed is that the HD doesn't track the route when put into standby. Seems to restart and the re-establish gps when switched back on. Both the original Touch and the Atom Life continued tracking when in standby. Guess it might help battery life though. Need to do more testing

This mm map size issue is not new. It has intermittently affected my 2750 under WM5 (not WM2003SE incidentally), TyTN and TyTNII. Pre WM5 it worked fine with all map sizes ... accepting that pre WM5 ... even on the 2750 you could only have 2 x 4GB ... so you couldn't have a single map of the UK.
I ended up using the PC app to break the UK into circa 25 regions that made sense to me, keeping each region (largest map 173M) and it works fine most of the time. If you have a bunch of things running at the same time the odd map may fail to open ... the only option is to shut all other apps down or soft reset. It is not actually getting close to running out of program memory ... it is something about the way MM5 works with the WM5 and later persistant memory model and Memory Map have been aware of the problem since early WM5 days. It is frustrating but I don't see it going away anytime soon.
I regularly have memory map in the foreground with co pilot 6 in the background giving audio directions ... maps are far cooler than street nav ones. This works fine with map sizes below 180M.
On different devices this sensitivity may vary but will alway be there ... but you won't get a single map of the UK ... the 25 I mentioned take up 5.7GB .... working on any device until MM sort out the issue. I last spoke to the guys in Aldermaston about 18 months ago and they clearly knew about the issue but it didn't seem like a priority.
I'm happy to send the outline map for MM5 that will enable you to export the 25 sub 180M maps to the PDA.
Paul.

pgamble said:
This mm map size issue is not new.
... it is something about the way MM5 works with the WM5 and later persistant memory model and Memory Map have been aware of the problem since early WM5 days. It is frustrating but I don't see it going away anytime soon.
...I last spoke to the guys in Aldermaston about 18 months ago and they clearly knew about the issue but it didn't seem like a priority.
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The only update to Memory-Map in a long time has been the addition of a tighter licensing system. Priorities are obviously elsewhere. I've lost faith with Memory-Map. They have had a vast amount of my money in the past and don't seem to be doing anything to help me get the software working properly on newer, better hardware.
The very useful forum from their co.uk website has also disappeared and shows no sign of reappearing. I really don't think they actually care about their customers anymore and when companies get like that it is time to look elsewhere. Sorry Memory-Map, you've lost a big fan and probably many others to follow. (/rant)

Zooming In
I too found that moving to the Touch HD required me to reduce the size of the maps still further from the ones I used on my TyTn II. I have now split each map into counties and each file is below 60M each. Each area now opens fine without any problem.
The only thing I have noticed, other than the zoom in/out buttons looking strange, is that I can't zoom in as much as I could on the TyTn II. The lowest zoom I can get is when the scale shows 0.5 miles at the bottom. Changing the screen to landscape with Gsen makes no difference. I know I could zoom in one more setting on the TyTn II. Has anyone had the same problem or know a solution?

I would be interested in this too. I am using Pocket A-Z on mine but although it fits full screen the maps look low quality. I would be interested if memory map fares better

It seems there is an optimum zoom level. Wierd, like a full size LCD. If you are on a zoom level above or below the optimum the quality is poor. (Or more poor than I'm used to!) This was the one app I really wanted the Touch HD for, and I'm thoroughly disappointed so far. Need some fixes for this pronto.

Paul,
I have the Full GB version of MM OS 1:50k. I would like to take you up on the offer of the outline map to create the 25 submaps. (I'm not too sure how this works. I'm assuming that the outline shows where to 'cut' and then download that displayed area to the HD?)
(I agree that this is a pain. On my older Pocket PC I could open maps of 250 megs without any problem. I bought a 16 gig card to get all the maps on to my HD and now find this problem.)
Stef

Which Nav Software do you use and briefly why?

Hey all,
I've been an avid user of TomTom from V5 upwards. I currently use V7.
I only have experience with TomTom and have always stuck to it as I've had no complaints. Easy to install, easy to customise etc..etc..
I'd like to ask you to vote which you use and why.
PLEASE CAN WE JUST GIVE REASONS AS TO WHY YOU USE WHICH AND NOT START ANY ARGUEMENTS WITH ANY OTHER POST!
Keep your reasons simple and to the point.
Many thanks
Wayne
edit: If anyone has any other nav software they use, I will amend the Poll accordingly.

I have tried Tomtom 7, Navigon and iGO8.
Quickly removed both Tomtom and Navigon when I got iGO8 running. Both of them had much more noticable lag.

Im using TomTom too.... but it does have lag, does igo8 have less?

tomj333 said:
Im using TomTom too.... but it does have lag, does igo8 have less?
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MUCH less.

I'm using tomtom, well that is to say I have it on my phone as I have in car satnav, but I use it to scroll through maps etc and find the place I'm looking for prior to getting in the car.
As such I'm not really worried about the lag issue (in fact I don't think I've even used it as satnav since I've had my HD).
I did try IGO8 but I immediately installed the tomtom skin as it's what I'm used to and I like the layout of tomtom.

i' using garmin.i think it better that tomtom.way more options, but guess they all do the same at the send.

TT, even if the last version is not working perfectly on HD 'cause it wasn't designed for it, anyway it's the best and it remain the only one

sat nav
I have the Garmin in my car but atm haven’t got on my phone but I would like to put it on. Can anyone tell me if I can use the software from my car one and if so how do you put it on. Alternatively where do you get the satnav software from and is it special one just for phones.

strange no one mentions about mapking... i'm using mapking though i prefer the background of garmin. but garmin searching can be a real headache

Like the OP, TomTom. I have used several versions over several years. Very easy to use.
There is a lot of scope for personalization and custom of map colour schemes and system menu screens etc.
The supported .ov2 POI files are common and easy to install. Voice alerts area easy to create and install for all POIs including safety cameras.
Having said the above, iGo8 for example has a more comprehensive map set and impressed me when visiting the UAE. I found the display and interface unfamiliar, but I would consider prolonged use with a TomTom skin.

TomTom here as well.
Mainly so I can use my Speed Camera Database.

How poor is that.....ONLY 25.6% (roughly a quarter) of those who voted shared a comment.

If it helps I use Route 66, so I didn't even get to vote

igo is the way to go
i have a Touch HD with both TomTom and Igo8 on, i was trying to use TomTom but found it lagged and was unreliable in getting a fix( a big prob with the HD) but when i put Igo on it worked first time and every time since, and i must admit it looks much better with the topography in 3d mode, its very nice, so i WAS a TomTom fan, but now im a Igo 8 convert.

I use SYGIC (Mc Guider) 7.6 because it´s easy to handle and it works in landscape perfekt.

Ive tried CoPilot, TomTom and iGo8, and I've stuck with iGo. It seems to update the quickest, the instructions are very clear and the display is excellent.

TomTom for me.
My wife bought me a full retail TomTom package a couple of years ago including the software + their GPS device at a total cost of GBP200 (~EUR180). When I (inevitably) upgraded my phone five months later I was unable to transfer the licence to the new machine because I'd gone up a version in WM and my TomTom software wouldn't install. All of that money we'd spent on the retail version was immediately wasted, which was very annoying.
I was forced to find and use a cracked version instead of my legal and perfectly good version simply because TomTom designed their software for one specific operating system and wouldn't do anything to help me.
I have bought lots of legal software for my PC and for my PDAs (and have donated to this site) and fully support the anti-warez policy on XDA-Dev, but out of principle now I will always use a cracked version of TomTom in revenge for TomTom's policy. TomTom will never get another penny from me.

BTW, this is a useful site for downloading free POIs for most software, thought it may be useful!
http://www.poifriend.com/

CoPilot is now listed as compatible with HD:
http://www.alk.eu.com/copilot/compatibility.asp

Tried Navigon MN 7, iGo 8 and Tomtom 7...
I'm using Navigon MN7, just because it has the nicest look (maps...) when you drive...
iGo 8 is also very nice to use, unfortunately the Tele Atlas maps are not so accurate, compared to the much better NavteQ maps used by Navigon !
And Tomtom, for me, has the World ugliest display when you drive, AND the not so accurate Tele Atlas maps ! IMHO, definitely the worst navigating software you can use... ;-(

CoPilot Live 8 for WM is here!!

Copilot Live 8 for Windows Mobile is here check out the link.
http://www.alk.eu.com/copilot/
Thank goodness I waited
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Did I mention? It is bloody cheap! well compared to what I would have paid for Copilot 7, 2 weeks ago (£54.99). I am sure it is but can anyone confirm if this is a his res version.

is this same **** as the other copilot.. once installed it can't be thrown off??

Lucky for me but i havent got copilot 7. I know a few people have mentioned this same problem. On the ALK website it says you must uninstall any previous version of copilot for the new one to work. if you guys are saying you cant uninstall then you guys are kinda screw.ed.
I would have thought it was simply a case of going to the remove programs icon and click on copilot to uninstall. Damn ALK! why do so companies make things so difficult?

hi,
i think our device is not compatible with this software.
Who can upgrade?
Any existing CoPilot customer can take advantage of the discounted pricing, however please be aware that CoPilot Live v8 upgrade is currently only available for phones and PDAs running Windows Mobile 5, 6 and 6.1 operating system. Note: Not compatible with HTC Touch Diamond2 or HTC Touch Pro2.
Check compatibility
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taken from co pilot site here
regards,
twisted

twisted said:
hi,
i think our device is not compatible with this software.
taken from co pilot site here
regards,
twisted
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In Check Compatility list Touch Diamond 2 and Touch Pro 2 are mentioned as compatible. If you check the following link, it's mentioned that v8 can not be installed in which v7 was factory installed.
http://guide.copilotlive.net/doku.php#uninstalling_previous_versions_of_copilot_live
Important: HTC Touch Diamond 2 and HTC TouchPro 2 Unfortunately CoPilot Live v8 cannot currently be installed on those Touch Diamond 2 or Touch Pro 2 phones which were supplied with a factory-installed trial version of CoPilot Live 7.

Copilot Live 8 working fine on Touch Pro 2.
I've bought it today and installed it .
It looks good and fully compatible and it's Hi Res. It works like charm.

I've been using this for a few days now on my TP2 (no previous installation of CoPilot) - no problems so far. I quite like it actually - looks good, has plenty of options etc. Oh, and also my TP2 has zero GPS lag with this piece of software - without any modifications to the register!
It's not perfect though: on-screen keyboard is alhpabetically arranged and for this reason very slow to type on, also I haven't (yet) found a way to set any other starting point other than my current location, which is kind of a limiting factor in planning a route.
Anyway, it's miles better than the Wayfinder Navigator s**t I put up with until now.

Is TTS Text to Speech is included as standard? Looks like it extra premium option, how much does it cost extra? Can any one post how much will it cost extra for each premium options like TTS, voice command, live search etc?
I tried to read all over there site and it says most recent map data but does not say which month release it is from. I am using Copilot Live 7 and can not find some addresses. is it 2009 q1 data or Q2 data?
Thanks

My biggest question - does this require a storage card, or can I just install this on my own microSDHC?

I purchased CoPilot Live 8 for my US Fuze. I cannot see how to get the Live features working: Weather, traffic etc...
Any ideas?
Doug M.

dwmackay said:
I purchased CoPilot Live 8 for my US Fuze. I cannot see how to get the Live features working: Weather, traffic etc...
Any ideas?
Doug M.
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I think they are optional extra (Premium) services that you need to buy (subscribe??) using Copilot central 2.0.(correct me if I am wrong) If that's included in that $29.99 (upgrade price) that would be an excellent price with entire NA and canada maps.

Ghallo said:
My biggest question - does this require a storage card, or can I just install this on my own microSDHC?
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8 is a purchasable download. 1 GB ++. Use any card you wish!

There is no streets?
Hi !
I have HTC Touch Pro 2 and it worked very well with Copilot Live 8. But I have a strange problem. I bought the North America Maps, that includes the Canada and USA Maps. When I surf on map, I can see all streets, roads, POI’s in USA but in Canada I only see Major roads. There is no streets, no POI’s… what is the problem ? Please Help.

Installation was quite easy. Thanks to KK0813 for the link to the guide. The maps are not very up to date though. I live in a new build area (development started in 2004 and was completed about Dec 2007) and my street is not on the map. Thats very poor.
I have got screen lock set and when I am using copilot, the screen locks out. This didnt happen on my TyTN 2. anyone got any quick fix for this?

CoPilot Live 8 vs. Garmin XT 5?
I use Garmin but have been thinking about switching over to CoPilotLive... the graphics look really good. The price is also RIGHT.
BTW - anyone know how much the voices go for? I noticed the $35-$40 didn't include voices.

lombardo8 said:
Installation was quite easy. Thanks to KK0813 for the link to the guide. The maps are not very up to date though. I live in a new build area (development started in 2004 and was completed about Dec 2007) and my street is not on the map. Thats very poor.
I have got screen lock set and when I am using copilot, the screen locks out. This didnt happen on my TyTN 2. anyone got any quick fix for this?
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My street was completed in 1999 and doesn't feature in CP7. Can't work that one out.

Looks like you can also upgrade from CPL7 so if it was factory installed that should work no?

Just upgraded from CP6 (free from O2 at the time) to CP8. The screen is high resolution and installed without any problems. Had a problem installing CP Central 2 with the error code 1628. Found it was the anti-virus software i was using. I've checked the maps and found that some major roads completed within the last 12 months are featured however some of the minor 'streets' have not been. All looks good especially when you consider the price.

someone must have an idea of my problem. at least one person must experience the same problem. I have a password lock on my touch pro 2 set to 1 min so if the device is not used for a min, it locks and requests a password. on my TyTN 2 i have copilot 6 and when it is on the screen knows not to lock, i guess cos it understands it is a navigation program but on my touch pro 2 with copilot 8 the screen locks after 1 min. This isnt practical as you cannot be expected to keep typing in your pin every minute while driving.
Has anyone else experienced this? Is it a problem with copilot 8 or is it the touch pro 2. Is there any way round this?

carlviper said:
Hi !
I have HTC Touch Pro 2 and it worked very well with Copilot Live 8. But I have a strange problem. I bought the North America Maps, that includes the Canada and USA Maps. When I surf on map, I can see all streets, roads, POI’s in USA but in Canada I only see Major roads. There is no streets, no POI’s… what is the problem ? Please Help.
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I have the same problem, I live in canada, and I was suprised to not be able to see my own town streets... I can see the POI's but not the streets... Like you say, I can only see the major street at a higher zoom level.
I raised it to ALK, last Friday, but they never got back to me. You should do the same.
Thanks,
Eric