Us M88 users would love a pop at wm6.5 Rom but it seems that no one seems to know anything about this phone.
In order to create a Rom for this device what is needed, is there a way to extract the driver base from a phone running 6.1? what is it we are going to need to do in order to progress?
It's a shame, actually this isn't a bad phone - I would not compare it to the Iphone really even though it looks the same, it's just a windows mobile phone that most people would like to remove the Iphone launcher that comes with it anyway and use a better shell like pointui or spb.
Anyway, going off track a bit here, I would have a go at creating a 6.5 rom myself for this phone, but I will need the help of some one that's done this before and knows the pitfalls when creating a rom for a phone that's not that well known.
So if anyone fancies giving me a hand?
Mike
This seems to be the theme of the m88 phone! what no one at all willing to lend a hand?
Mike
Mike,
Tell us HOW we can help!
I would like to contribute if I can.
Just tell - how!
Ok, this is one way you could help, it so happens that my M88 has the newer 6.1 wm, although I would have like to install 6.5 it's still a newer version than some have.
I've been taking a large interest in the pointui project and am currnenty runnig a really nice interface on my M88, pointsence, it would be a really cook thing if I knew how to create a cooked rom out of what I have installed,
and then everyone could make use of this cool theme, I am guessing that when you use a cooked Rom with installations incorperated into it then you will free up more memory on your phone as you main memory wouldn't have as much stuff phisically installed, as it will be part of the Rom.
I guess the point I'm slowing getting to is, I don't know how to create a rom, and the M88 kinda seems to need someone to get things moving, if it has to be me then I'll have a bash, but I'll need some guidence.
Mike
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So i have a att 8525 and for the past month or so been reading here and HOFO and 4winmobile and mrvanx about the rom updates. I feel confident in my ability to update but i am really unsure as what some main differences are between all of the many different versions. At first i was sure to go with Black but now after looking LVSW, Faria and ELF. I have read what they offer but i dont really get whats the big differences between them. I notice a big "selling" point is the amount of ram available for use. I DO want WM6, a few things that i need are good BT support, WIFI, 3G/data connection, my Exchange direct push to work, Remote Desktop and easy dialing (like the HTC smart dialer). So do any of these really meet my needs? i know thats a loaded question but i just cant seem to be able to differentiate between them. Thanks for any help that you can give.
Ull
*EDIT* I do want WM6.. it was a typo sorry for the confusion */EDIT*
My suggestion is to try them and stick with the one that most support your needs.
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So i have a att 8525 and for the past month or so been reading here and HOFO and 4winmobile and mrvanx about the rom updates. I feel confident in my ability to update but i am really unsure as what some main differences are between all of the many different versions. At first i was sure to go with Black but now after looking LVSW, Faria and ELF. I have read what they offer but i dont really get whats the big differences between them. I notice a big "selling" point is the amount of ram available for use. I dont want WM6, a few things that i need are good BT support, WIFI, 3G/data connection, my Exchange direct push to work, Remote Desktop and easy dialing (like the HTC smart dialer). So do any of these really meet my needs? i know thats a loaded question but i just cant seem to be able to differentiate between them. Thanks for any help that you can give.
Ull
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You say you don't want WM6, so then none of the mentioned ROMS will meet your needs as they are all WM6. This is the WM6 forum. Check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=306 for discussions about the latest WM5 ROMS.
You say you dont WM6....
but you want a good Remote Desktop client and Good bluetooth support....
both reside in WM6 and not in WM5
As i edited in my post i made a typo i do want WM6. Sorry for any confusion again.
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As i edited in my post i made a typo i do want WM6. Sorry for any confusion again.
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I agree with arluckett2002, try some out.
I personally recommend the Elf, because he cooks with the ExtROM, leaving you the ability to remove unwanted apps and is built on LVSW core (very stable). It is sort of a combination between a clean fast & sleek rom, with the added benefits of some apps. But, you can remove them if you want.
Most of the rom's are good now, it is a matter of trial & error and style preference.
There is no way you get everything you want in a rom (unless you cook your own). Get the closes one (or a basic one and add the programs you need). In my experience with a Hermes phone, LVSW is the most stable. ELF which uses LVSW is almost as good as LVSW.
I update programs as they become available.
UllSang said:
So i have a att 8525 and for the past month or so been reading here and HOFO and 4winmobile and mrvanx about the rom updates. I feel confident in my ability to update but i am really unsure as what some main differences are between all of the many different versions. At first i was sure to go with Black but now after looking LVSW, Faria and ELF. I have read what they offer but i dont really get whats the big differences between them. I notice a big "selling" point is the amount of ram available for use. I DO want WM6, a few things that i need are good BT support, WIFI, 3G/data connection, my Exchange direct push to work, Remote Desktop and easy dialing (like the HTC smart dialer). So do any of these really meet my needs? i know thats a loaded question but i just cant seem to be able to differentiate between them. Thanks for any help that you can give.
Ull
*EDIT* I do want WM6.. it was a typo sorry for the confusion */EDIT*
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There is no way you get everything you want in a rom (unless you cook your own). Get the closes one (or a basic one and add the programs you need). In my experience with a Hermes phone, LVSW is the most stable. ELF which uses LVSW is almost as good as LVSW.
I update programs as they become available.
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I always had this question... If a program is installed while the ROM is being upgraded (it is part of and packaged with the rom), and a new version of the application is available, can we upgrade the application without losing precious storage/program memory? Or will the upgrade disable the "read only" older version and install the new version as if it is a new application?
Good Question!!!
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I always had this question... If a program is installed while the ROM is being upgraded (it is part of and packaged with the rom), and a new version of the application is available, can we upgrade the application without losing precious storage/program memory? Or will the upgrade disable the "read only" older version and install the new version as if it is a new application?
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My understanding is that the new program will place new copies of it's files over the ones in ROM, thereby sort-of deactivating the ROM-based one, but now taking up twice the amount of space ... and if you uninstall it, you should be left with the old copy.
However, if the uninstall removes registry settings, the ROM-based one might not work anymore. I know I've "overwritten" certain files in the /Windows folder, and when I delete them, the old ROM-based ones are again visible.
Again, this is MY understanding, and I may be wrong. I would LOVE to know the truth from somebody who's a real genius with this stuff. We have soem true geniuses here, so maybe one of them can confirm or deny what I've written here.
-pvs
is VP3G's version relatively stable?
pvs said:
My understanding is that the new program will place new copies of it's files over the ones in ROM, thereby sort-of deactivating the ROM-based one, but now taking up twice the amount of space ... and if you uninstall it, you should be left with the old copy.
However, if the uninstall removes registry settings, the ROM-based one might not work anymore. I know I've "overwritten" certain files in the /Windows folder, and when I delete them, the old ROM-based ones are again visible.
Again, this is MY understanding, and I may be wrong. I would LOVE to know the truth from somebody who's a real genius with this stuff. We have soem true geniuses here, so maybe one of them can confirm or deny what I've written here.
-pvs
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So, based on your answer, the best rom currently available (at least in relation to memory) should be the Elf, since he installs all programs in ExtROM using CAB files, which can be uninstalled / overwritten etc, without taking up twice the amount of memory in case of a program update. Agree?
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So, based on your answer, the best rom currently available (at least in relation to memory) should be the Elf, since he installs all programs in ExtROM using CAB files, which can be uninstalled / overwritten etc, without taking up twice the amount of memory in case of a program update. Agree?
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No, not neccesarily. There are several very clean ROMs to choose from, as well, where you can simply add what you want, period. And several only have some limited apps built in, that provide some extra functionality, and will probably not be upgraded, or you can live with the versions that are already installed. The question is best answered by each user and his/her subjective needs and desires.
On top of that, you must think about the quality of support that the cook is willing/able to provide. If you are a newbie, you would probably do best to steer away from the Elf and Black versions, since their authors are somewhat lacking in patience, although I must admit, they are extremely talented with the technology.
You really need to measure it all out from several different angles, and in the long run, only you can decide which is best for you.
-pvs
VP3G v2 rom
I have been running VP3G's v2 hybrid rom for about a week. only issues i had after flashing was i needed the cingular settings cab file to configure everything that i didn't want to manually add myself. i'm still looking for the smart dialer cab that i found on here awhile back but other than that it's got everything you need, it's stable, and very fast. tomtom 6 works great with it as does any of my bluetooth devices. exchange direct push works well though i find that sometimes the phone doesn't sync cahnges back to the exchange server. so far it's the best rom i've tried for wm6. oh yah.. i'm running an ATT 8525 on ATT's network.
Damn talking about bring the thread back to life, haha. I am actually currently running VP3G v2.0.1H also. VP3G has the cingular settings build in, did that not work for you? it worked great for me. It works perfect for all my BT devices and i have no had any issues with the exchange DP. so definitely my favorite rom so far.
pvs said:
My understanding is that the new program will place new copies of it's files over the ones in ROM, thereby sort-of deactivating the ROM-based one, but now taking up twice the amount of space ... and if you uninstall it, you should be left with the old copy.
However, if the uninstall removes registry settings, the ROM-based one might not work anymore. I know I've "overwritten" certain files in the /Windows folder, and when I delete them, the old ROM-based ones are again visible.
Again, this is MY understanding, and I may be wrong. I would LOVE to know the truth from somebody who's a real genius with this stuff. We have soem true geniuses here, so maybe one of them can confirm or deny what I've written here.
-pvs
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It will overwrite the current file, it won't take up more space.
Maybe I'm getting to old for this but seriously how many times a month does this question need to be asked and answered?????
i must be having a bad day.
I have just upgraded to the new WM6 PDAVIET Rom which is great, but I was wondering if we could try and figure out what the perfect rom would contain. For example TomTom, TCPMP, T9pad, or whatever. I would like to see AEButton plus which I find really opens up a realm of one handed operations.
I am just beginning to learn about rom cooking and maybe some day I'll make my own perfect rom but until then what suggestions do you have for the contents?
I'd say that perfect ROM would contain NOTHING .... meaning no extras, apart from those that are part of WM6 officially and most of HTC Applications .... a clean and mean machine.
The rest we install manually .... each to his/her own likings.
I agree. To me the perfect rom would not only not contain favorite programs and extra today themes but also would be stripped of all the other non-essential stuff like emoticons, templates, ringtones (all but one), empty folders, extra audio files, etc. All that junk could accompany the rom download in a separate folder to be added as one sees fit. In fact, my perfect rom wouldn´t contain ppt.exe, a program I´ve never once used but that takes up whopping 2.59mb.
I think I might be inclined to agree with you, but I like the idea of not having to install anything, I spent hours yesterday messing about, installing stuff copying serials and then fiddling with all the settings, I just got bored and wanted it right quickly.
So is it easy for advanced devs to build a totally clean rom? Is it possible to just package stuff up to only upgrade the ext.rom of a clean rom? so we could just choose rom, radio and ext,rom separately to individual tastes.
To get it PERFECT... make it your OWN!
Hi!
I totally agree, to make it perfect you have to make your own, but how?? I download the ROM kitchen for artemis from this tread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310076) and it seems quite simple to cook a ROM with default packages, but how do I make my own packages from my favorite apps? Say I want to add Tomtom and Spb Mobile Shell in my ROM, how do I do that?
Regards,
PK
Yes, veeeeery good idea!
I want to do this too but the tutorials for that seem to be hidden really well or non-existent. It really sucks to install all the programs again once you've updated to a new ROM. And I don't want a WWE ROM, I want to use my own language.
If there is a way how to find out where or how to extract .cabs to the right format then it would be possible to include them when building the OS. Maybe we have to start a big thread called "Beginners Tutorial for cooking ROMs". I'm very familiar with my computer and hardware but finding out which program to use for what and which parameters I have to enter takes up a lot of time. A few months ago I tried to install something on a server and finding out how to do this and how the program works took me two weeks, now I can do it in 30 minutes. Now I don't know much more than after those two weeks but I know how to do it faster.
We should work on this too, it's not that there absolute computer-newbies in this forum, they just don't know how to use the tools correctly, including me. But I'm willing to learn and share my knowledge.
All i need is a simple basic working rom and links to programs that i want.
I like some of the roms here but alot are over complicated with programs i would never need or want.
A basic WM6 with a tweak program and the , MSN, HTC and Office Patches all up to date wouild suffice. (oh and doesnt take up 80% of the storage card)
anyone point me in that direction please
DUH ?!?! unbelievable
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365604
use a kitchen and cook one yourself, that or quit whining and look through the roms here and give them a try.
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use a kitchen and cook one yourself, that or quit whining and look through the roms here and give them a try.
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i have been doing that since friday and since my exprertise is not coding, or cooking i thought i better ask before i brick my phone.
didnt really expect a huge repsonce but being pishy about it isnt what i expected either.
The link I provided is the easiest ROM cooker there is.
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The link I provided is the easiest ROM cooker there is.
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thanks i will give it a try. Last time i tried something like this was slipstreaming a full OS build onto a machine that died on me. so im not overtly confident
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thanks i will give it a try. Last time i tried something like this was slipstreaming a full OS build onto a machine that died on me. so im not overtly confident
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sorry but im a windows point and click guy and In not confident enough to do any cooking. its not as easy as a slipstream and i aint riskign my phone to play with it.
ill go back to WM5.
at least i know it works and doesnt bring my phone to a complete halt
Thanks for those of you who helped
dont run away so quickly, there are some decent roms in this forum, just have a look around, SCHAPS has some good one,s go for an earlier clean WM6 though one that's been hammered, and has some updates, for some reason he doesn't seem to want to provide updates to his latest Beta for 6.1.
There are a few other good full roms but its all about what you want to use the device for, I also just need a clean one not one that a chef has put all their fave apps in which bloats the build, I'm currently trying out the Shadow one which seams ok at the moment, main reason for that choice was that it states he has tweaked the bluetooth, what he's done I don't know..
and saying you've been searching since Friday... some of us have been searching for the wholy grail of ROMS for a while, I too am not a coder and don't want to brick my rom, no matter how good the destructions are, they invariably will be for the non uber geeks amongst us
Yes don't go to WM5. WM6 is much stable, dependable and you can find some good ROMs here. Though not officially launched, people here are cooking for WM6.1. It feels a bit strange to see you are going back to WM5.
Firstly decide the use of your Herms device.
Check out the applications the chefs are offering in their ROMs or you can use a clean ROM and instal cabs afterwards if you donot want to cook or expert in doing for yourself. It all depends on your personal preferences, but I feel you should not give preference to WM5 over WM6.
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dont run away so quickly, there are some decent roms in this forum, just have a look around, SCHAPS has some good one,s go for an earlier clean WM6 though one that's been hammered, and has some upda....
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I am tryin shaps 4.31 lit now.
im searching for windows live and htc home latest versioons so i can load them up.
krismcewan said:
All i need is a simple basic working rom and links to programs that i want.
I like some of the roms here but alot are over complicated with programs i would never need or want.
A basic WM6 with a tweak program and the , MSN, HTC and Office Patches all up to date wouild suffice. (oh and doesnt take up 80% of the storage card)
anyone point me in that direction please
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It doesn't have the 'latest and greatest', but hey, often the latest is not the greatest either...
Take a look at D-Lite and SuperD-Light.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320010&highlight=superd-light
has anyone noticed how much slower wm6 runs on the 8525? I have two friends who purchased 8525's after I did, and theirs run much quicker with the old wm5 roms on them. Mine looks cooler, and has better functionality, but it seems to hang for extended amounts of time sometimes. Like when I'm replying to a text message, or just sliding the keyboard out, waiting for the screen to change into lanscape mode.
Windows 6.1 seems alot faster. you might try looking into one of the 6.1 lites. I'm useing pays with some luck
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Windows 6.1 seems alot faster. you might try looking into one of the 6.1 lites. I'm useing pays with some luck
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i coulndt get pays one to run. the loader kept crashing.
i am using Schaps 4.31 but its really really slow
krismcewan said:
All i need is a simple basic working rom and links to programs that i want.
I like some of the roms here but alot are over complicated with programs i would never need or want.
A basic WM6 with a tweak program and the , MSN, HTC and Office Patches all up to date wouild suffice. (oh and doesnt take up 80% of the storage card)
anyone point me in that direction please
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You may not quite get that combination but one of the numerous lite ROMs on the board may well suit.
Myself I'd recommend using Mattk_r's Pandora 6 (WM6.0, not WM6.1) and using the 3.60 Big Storage ROM. Very nice, stable combination. That way you can add in just a couple of things.
WM 6.0 Kitchen: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316881
Or you could just use his 'Naked' ROM for 6.0 and add just a tweak prog from a cab.
WM 6.0 Naked ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351274
I went up to the Pandora Naked 7 Kitchen and 'naked' ROM (still WM6.0) for a while then into the 6.1 'naked' ROM and kitchen with Pandora 8 & 9. Now I'm back with the 6.0 Kitchen and the 3.60 Big Storage ROM.
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i coulndt get pays one to run. the loader kept crashing.
i am using Schaps 4.31 but its really really slow
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I ran Schaps 4.01 Full for a while without too many problems, I have just installed this one, as a base ROM, there are a few minor issues with the launcher app but I don't use it anyway http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372118 seems reasonably fast can't comment on stability as I've only had it installed for an hour or so.
If you don't want all the tweaks and apps the ROM is offering just do a soft reset after you align the screen. Be sure to get a connection wizard then just pick and choose the apps you want. If you want a .CAB for something PM the person that has the ROM and ask for it.
I have been running the shaps 4.31 and although i like it its very very slow.
it keeps freezing and it takes ages to do anything.
I know no one believes me when i say i had less problems with WM5 but its that bad im seriously considering it.
I still have no way of putting the pays rom on as the loader always crashes.
Anyone else got a 6.1 rom that they recomend i can try.
try vp3g's it's very stable and not too many extras
Not sure if ROM is the correct word for it, I'm pretty well versed in computers but have never tried any of this custom firmware stuff for my gadgets. I'm want to try something new, and was planning on doing a big hard reset anyways so I figured I might as well try something new. Currently my axim is on the A12 rom, which I believe was the last official rom from dell. (feel free to correct me here) Searching around I was led to this site, and there seem to be a few different options. From my little research I've found these three.
Footballs' A17 and his WM6 rom
Lenny's WM6 rom
I figure I might as well go for WM6 since its out now, but I don't know. I like Lenny's since it seems to come with a fair amount of included software. Football's on the other hand seems to be more popular. I would like to make sure of what I'm going to use before I go about messing with my axim.
I have few requirements, the major one being that I like to use ozvga to put my axim in "true" vga mode. Can anyone offer an guidance here? Searching through the threads just left me more confused.
You can't go wrong with Lenny's L11 WM6.1 ROM! It doesn't have ozvga bundled but you can load it yourself.
Go here to get it.
Makuu's ROM has VGA support built into it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439586
But personally I like Lenny's ROM better, and add the VGA support manually. See my sig below for the link.
Cheers
Mark
Thanks for the input, I think it's going to be Lenny's. My intent from the beginning was to add on the vga I just wasn't sure if it would support it, sorry for any confusion.
Forgot to add- Will my old programs still work?
If you want to use live msn in trueVga, mode, you must check with Markvan if his package are including the trueVga live msn dlls.
About your old programs, if some of them are using irda (like noviiremote), you have to choose one rom that has irda support.
Thanks for the input guys. Went ahead and installed Lenny's, flashing the memory turned out to be much easier than I thought. I love it, a big thanks to all you developers out there, breathed new life into my axim.
Is the LennySH version better than the Football one?
poinless thread
only way to find out whats best for you is to get flashing.
thank you
Am I right in thinking nobody is realising nice little tweaks and cool TF3D apps for the Stock roms/Stock Manila anymore?
Everything I try either has to have a WM6.5 on it (i.e. cooked rom) or the latest manila (i.e. cooked rom).
Just like to hear somebody comment on that because as a user who has had his Artemis buggered before by over tweaking in terms of ROMs I'm loathe to do it with my HD and want to stick with stock...but can't get anything nice other than a brand new UI (SPB MS etc...) which is not needed.
Ideas, thoughts, comments?
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Great Idea I use my Hd only for business and dont need to supe it up but adding new apps to improve my phone is always welcome, it seems a lot of users are getting the phone just to play with, it is a phone after all or am I wrong