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OK, the LVSW ROM was deliberately built with the faulty tadzio toolchain in order to prevent people editing it, and I'm pretty sure this is also the reason it's causing issues with the new SPLs... therefore, I can only suggest everyone avoid LVSWs releases till he uses the new toolchain.
jasjamming's ROMs are a good alternative and are recommended.
Good info!!
Somehow LVSW's edition runs SPB without an issue. I like SPB Pocket Plus, weather and Shell, but it wont run smooth under Black edition.... Hope the next release improves...
Hmm that sounds kinda messed up...
I like both ROMs...honestly I just want a "clean" ROM where I can add all my stuff...
Black is nice but I think its loaded with too much stuff I don't use...like vjtools and such (tho they are nice, it sure makes a mess out of my programs screen).
I'm just waiting for 2.0 so I can use Live Messenger again ^_^
Just my 2 cents
Olipro said:
OK, the LVSW ROM was deliberately built with the faulty tadzio toolchain in order to prevent people editing it, and I'm pretty sure this is also the reason it's causing issues with the new SPLs... therefore, I can only suggest everyone avoid LVSWs releases till he uses the new toolchain.
jasjamming's ROMs are a good alternative and are recommended.
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The 0326 LVSW edition can be edited with no problem. I use 0326 LVSW as a based and cooked a few roms and flashed/booted with no problems.
@akarandomjames
Yeah I agree... Right now I'm using LVSW because it's the cleanest I can get: only the useful hacks have been done (especially the last version), no adding useless programs. I tried 3DES yesterday as well but definitely too many programs there. The BIG problem I have with LVSW is that I can't find IP telephony, which is and should remain a part of WM6.
But I agree, what I would love is a ROM that has the problems and bugs of WM6 worked out (like LVSW), so that I don't need to touch the registry (actually I do, but that's only because I'm adding Japanese input and removing the others) or install any hacks. AND this ROM should keep the features of basic WM6 (IP telephony, like Black or 3DES). AND this ROM shouldn't add any programs! I mean whenever I install Linux on my computer, I choose what programs I want. I don't want to get programs which I can't even erase!
This sounds like a lot of complaining, and I'm sorry it does, but I think it's more of a critic that these cooked ROMs are getting already too bloated. It's a typical Geek/Engineer problem to want to add as many features as possible in one package... But let people choose by letting them install the programs they really want.
I'm sure the answer could be "cook your own ROM"! And I guess I will. But right now I don't have time... just starting to work, moving to Japan in 10 days, etc. busy busy... And I respect, admire, and love the work the ROM cookers are doing. You're incredible, guys!
Yannick
As I understand it and please correct me if I'm wrong (will help me avoid a blind alley) The basic WM6 OS with HTC drivers and apps could be included in the main rom and then all the fancy bits that we may or may not need/want included in the extended rom. Then those who don't want it need not install it and either can install the bits they do want the hard way or if they feel brave can cook there own extended rom so hard resets only need a quick resync...
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I can only suggest everyone avoid LVSWs releases till he uses the new toolchain. jasjamming's ROMs are a good alternative and are recommended.
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Disagree.
I'm using LVSW since some days without any problems and as far as I remember the white screen is also reported with jasjamming's black edition, for instance here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1198178&postcount=950
But maybe I'm just a lucky guy without troubles and the problem described in the link above is a different one
Nonetheless I'm waiting for kyphurs new rom, hope he will release it within the next week.
Damn, and just after I decide to go to LVSW yesterday (I was still on XDA Live 0.10).
I think, thanks to the RUU Wrapper and Hard SPL I avoided any issues with the white screen (fingers crossed) - so thanks for that - but I'm definitely waiting for XDA 0.30 and hopefully a cab for Windows Live as Black doesn;t really suit me.
Agree with gerald_s. Same here. No issues at all with either of the 2{5,6}/03 versions. Maybe this comes down to hardware differences (i.e. G3/G4 DOC flash etc.). My JASJAM is a recent one, S/N HT649.
No problems with a HTC TyTN and LVSW 20070326. No blank screen at all.
I am also doing well with the ROM and installed SPB Mobile Shell, Pocket Plus, Wather, Palm thresded SMS... all working fine, i need to Hard reset after the ROM flushing as it was requested on the forum..
ey, i noted this....
A week ago + or - i have got upgraded my TyTN to HardSPL 1.10 and the upgraded to LVSW (all the versions, minus 2(5-6)/03) and Black 1.1 & 1.2 and when take a look to info 8 have no bad block in any case.
Yesterday upgrade to HardSPL 1.40, and before upgrade to LVSW 26/03 take a look to info 8, and bad blocks appears (3 bad blocks). Then upgrade to LVSW 26/03 and works fine, all working good, no problem at all.
Regards.
jasjamming has been doing some tests, it looks like there may be further issues even with the newer versions. watch this space.
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Hmm that sounds kinda messed up...
I like both ROMs...honestly I just want a "clean" ROM where I can add all my stuff...
Black is nice but I think its loaded with too much stuff I don't use...like vjtools and such (tho they are nice, it sure makes a mess out of my programs screen).
I'm just waiting for 2.0 so I can use Live Messenger again ^_^
Just my 2 cents
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Buhwawawa...those 4 files are 8.5k, 31k, 9k and 9k...don't add up to 60k...57.5k to be exact. He even removed all the alarms and only left 3 ringtones.
Bhwawawa. His has the LEAST amount of stuff. Don't like your programs "screen" just delete the shortcuts from the menu. :rofl:
Just wondering: Why does LVSW not answering to this thread?
ok, I'm going to dump the ROM and reconstruct it, can someone who has whitescreen please contact me so I can send them a "fixed" OS for testing.
i'm trying an anagram...
LVSW (mirror mode)
MSAT ..8525...
I just upgarded my Trion 5 days ago from WMXL 0.2 to LVSW. I upgraded twice, using SPL 1.09 and Hard SPL 1.30 no white issue at all. The new rom is very2 stable and fast. I love it.
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Buhwawawa...those 4 files are 8.5k, 31k, 9k and 9k...don't add up to 60k...57.5k to be exact. He even removed all the alarms and only left 3 ringtones.
Bhwawawa. His has the LEAST amount of stuff. Don't like your programs "screen" just delete the shortcuts from the menu. :rofl:
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I wasn't complaining about space...I actually just want something as close to an "original WM6" as I can get.
So I ran LSVW's and soft reset right after setting up my device so none of that 3 second crap was installed...installed fixes and tweaks myself...and everything is running fine.
I'm just waiting (a long time) for Cingular's release of WM6 for the 8525...and waiting for some new kitchens to open up ^_^
Hopefully by then, I'll be able to understand how to cook my own roms.
Olipro said:
OK, the LVSW ROM was deliberately built with the faulty tadzio toolchain in order to prevent people editing it, and I'm pretty sure this is also the reason it's causing issues with the new SPLs... therefore, I can only suggest everyone avoid LVSWs releases till he uses the new toolchain.
jasjamming's ROMs are a good alternative and are recommended.
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BTW jasjamming's ROMs are getting (or were getting?) the white screen issue as often as LVSW's
So i have a att 8525 and for the past month or so been reading here and HOFO and 4winmobile and mrvanx about the rom updates. I feel confident in my ability to update but i am really unsure as what some main differences are between all of the many different versions. At first i was sure to go with Black but now after looking LVSW, Faria and ELF. I have read what they offer but i dont really get whats the big differences between them. I notice a big "selling" point is the amount of ram available for use. I DO want WM6, a few things that i need are good BT support, WIFI, 3G/data connection, my Exchange direct push to work, Remote Desktop and easy dialing (like the HTC smart dialer). So do any of these really meet my needs? i know thats a loaded question but i just cant seem to be able to differentiate between them. Thanks for any help that you can give.
Ull
*EDIT* I do want WM6.. it was a typo sorry for the confusion */EDIT*
My suggestion is to try them and stick with the one that most support your needs.
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So i have a att 8525 and for the past month or so been reading here and HOFO and 4winmobile and mrvanx about the rom updates. I feel confident in my ability to update but i am really unsure as what some main differences are between all of the many different versions. At first i was sure to go with Black but now after looking LVSW, Faria and ELF. I have read what they offer but i dont really get whats the big differences between them. I notice a big "selling" point is the amount of ram available for use. I dont want WM6, a few things that i need are good BT support, WIFI, 3G/data connection, my Exchange direct push to work, Remote Desktop and easy dialing (like the HTC smart dialer). So do any of these really meet my needs? i know thats a loaded question but i just cant seem to be able to differentiate between them. Thanks for any help that you can give.
Ull
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You say you don't want WM6, so then none of the mentioned ROMS will meet your needs as they are all WM6. This is the WM6 forum. Check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=306 for discussions about the latest WM5 ROMS.
You say you dont WM6....
but you want a good Remote Desktop client and Good bluetooth support....
both reside in WM6 and not in WM5
As i edited in my post i made a typo i do want WM6. Sorry for any confusion again.
UllSang said:
As i edited in my post i made a typo i do want WM6. Sorry for any confusion again.
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I agree with arluckett2002, try some out.
I personally recommend the Elf, because he cooks with the ExtROM, leaving you the ability to remove unwanted apps and is built on LVSW core (very stable). It is sort of a combination between a clean fast & sleek rom, with the added benefits of some apps. But, you can remove them if you want.
Most of the rom's are good now, it is a matter of trial & error and style preference.
There is no way you get everything you want in a rom (unless you cook your own). Get the closes one (or a basic one and add the programs you need). In my experience with a Hermes phone, LVSW is the most stable. ELF which uses LVSW is almost as good as LVSW.
I update programs as they become available.
UllSang said:
So i have a att 8525 and for the past month or so been reading here and HOFO and 4winmobile and mrvanx about the rom updates. I feel confident in my ability to update but i am really unsure as what some main differences are between all of the many different versions. At first i was sure to go with Black but now after looking LVSW, Faria and ELF. I have read what they offer but i dont really get whats the big differences between them. I notice a big "selling" point is the amount of ram available for use. I DO want WM6, a few things that i need are good BT support, WIFI, 3G/data connection, my Exchange direct push to work, Remote Desktop and easy dialing (like the HTC smart dialer). So do any of these really meet my needs? i know thats a loaded question but i just cant seem to be able to differentiate between them. Thanks for any help that you can give.
Ull
*EDIT* I do want WM6.. it was a typo sorry for the confusion */EDIT*
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SL said:
There is no way you get everything you want in a rom (unless you cook your own). Get the closes one (or a basic one and add the programs you need). In my experience with a Hermes phone, LVSW is the most stable. ELF which uses LVSW is almost as good as LVSW.
I update programs as they become available.
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I always had this question... If a program is installed while the ROM is being upgraded (it is part of and packaged with the rom), and a new version of the application is available, can we upgrade the application without losing precious storage/program memory? Or will the upgrade disable the "read only" older version and install the new version as if it is a new application?
Good Question!!!
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I always had this question... If a program is installed while the ROM is being upgraded (it is part of and packaged with the rom), and a new version of the application is available, can we upgrade the application without losing precious storage/program memory? Or will the upgrade disable the "read only" older version and install the new version as if it is a new application?
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My understanding is that the new program will place new copies of it's files over the ones in ROM, thereby sort-of deactivating the ROM-based one, but now taking up twice the amount of space ... and if you uninstall it, you should be left with the old copy.
However, if the uninstall removes registry settings, the ROM-based one might not work anymore. I know I've "overwritten" certain files in the /Windows folder, and when I delete them, the old ROM-based ones are again visible.
Again, this is MY understanding, and I may be wrong. I would LOVE to know the truth from somebody who's a real genius with this stuff. We have soem true geniuses here, so maybe one of them can confirm or deny what I've written here.
-pvs
is VP3G's version relatively stable?
pvs said:
My understanding is that the new program will place new copies of it's files over the ones in ROM, thereby sort-of deactivating the ROM-based one, but now taking up twice the amount of space ... and if you uninstall it, you should be left with the old copy.
However, if the uninstall removes registry settings, the ROM-based one might not work anymore. I know I've "overwritten" certain files in the /Windows folder, and when I delete them, the old ROM-based ones are again visible.
Again, this is MY understanding, and I may be wrong. I would LOVE to know the truth from somebody who's a real genius with this stuff. We have soem true geniuses here, so maybe one of them can confirm or deny what I've written here.
-pvs
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So, based on your answer, the best rom currently available (at least in relation to memory) should be the Elf, since he installs all programs in ExtROM using CAB files, which can be uninstalled / overwritten etc, without taking up twice the amount of memory in case of a program update. Agree?
chrisvor said:
So, based on your answer, the best rom currently available (at least in relation to memory) should be the Elf, since he installs all programs in ExtROM using CAB files, which can be uninstalled / overwritten etc, without taking up twice the amount of memory in case of a program update. Agree?
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No, not neccesarily. There are several very clean ROMs to choose from, as well, where you can simply add what you want, period. And several only have some limited apps built in, that provide some extra functionality, and will probably not be upgraded, or you can live with the versions that are already installed. The question is best answered by each user and his/her subjective needs and desires.
On top of that, you must think about the quality of support that the cook is willing/able to provide. If you are a newbie, you would probably do best to steer away from the Elf and Black versions, since their authors are somewhat lacking in patience, although I must admit, they are extremely talented with the technology.
You really need to measure it all out from several different angles, and in the long run, only you can decide which is best for you.
-pvs
VP3G v2 rom
I have been running VP3G's v2 hybrid rom for about a week. only issues i had after flashing was i needed the cingular settings cab file to configure everything that i didn't want to manually add myself. i'm still looking for the smart dialer cab that i found on here awhile back but other than that it's got everything you need, it's stable, and very fast. tomtom 6 works great with it as does any of my bluetooth devices. exchange direct push works well though i find that sometimes the phone doesn't sync cahnges back to the exchange server. so far it's the best rom i've tried for wm6. oh yah.. i'm running an ATT 8525 on ATT's network.
Damn talking about bring the thread back to life, haha. I am actually currently running VP3G v2.0.1H also. VP3G has the cingular settings build in, did that not work for you? it worked great for me. It works perfect for all my BT devices and i have no had any issues with the exchange DP. so definitely my favorite rom so far.
pvs said:
My understanding is that the new program will place new copies of it's files over the ones in ROM, thereby sort-of deactivating the ROM-based one, but now taking up twice the amount of space ... and if you uninstall it, you should be left with the old copy.
However, if the uninstall removes registry settings, the ROM-based one might not work anymore. I know I've "overwritten" certain files in the /Windows folder, and when I delete them, the old ROM-based ones are again visible.
Again, this is MY understanding, and I may be wrong. I would LOVE to know the truth from somebody who's a real genius with this stuff. We have soem true geniuses here, so maybe one of them can confirm or deny what I've written here.
-pvs
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It will overwrite the current file, it won't take up more space.
Maybe I'm getting to old for this but seriously how many times a month does this question need to be asked and answered?????
i must be having a bad day.
as the title suggests i am very new to this world, and only was introduced to it by luck, and glad i was. Anyways just wanted to know where i could find the latest and greatest 3des.3.x for a dopod 838 pro
Also another question after some browsing it seems as though the black is the most popular, but why?? It seems to lack alot of applications in comparision to the 3des Hermes, is there any floors with the 3des hermes that i have not yet read?
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
help needed
Ya i wish to find out more as well as i m using dopod 838pro, y is it after i update to the official rom of wm 6, my bluetooth can't receive file and what is the best and stable rom that you guys will recommend, pls help, i wish to enhance my hermes to top performance and what softwares is a must for it to be the best pda companion.
Welcome to a world of wonder boys. First thing that you will learn about this site is that it is large and complex and can be really daunting at first.
I recommend first starting here
And then try the guides from Mr. Vanx.
After that, just start plopping ROMs on your device and testing them out. You are bound to find one that is right for you. And if not, by the time you try four or five ROMs you will probably be ready to cook your own.
@2revup - many ROM flashers actually find that a ROM free of most software is better than a bloated ROM. It enables the user to keep most of the device's memory free to install programs of his/her choosing.
thanks for that larsuck i will do some more reading, looking forward to getting some nice ROMS
All i need is a simple basic working rom and links to programs that i want.
I like some of the roms here but alot are over complicated with programs i would never need or want.
A basic WM6 with a tweak program and the , MSN, HTC and Office Patches all up to date wouild suffice. (oh and doesnt take up 80% of the storage card)
anyone point me in that direction please
DUH ?!?! unbelievable
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365604
use a kitchen and cook one yourself, that or quit whining and look through the roms here and give them a try.
aaronsmckee said:
use a kitchen and cook one yourself, that or quit whining and look through the roms here and give them a try.
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i have been doing that since friday and since my exprertise is not coding, or cooking i thought i better ask before i brick my phone.
didnt really expect a huge repsonce but being pishy about it isnt what i expected either.
The link I provided is the easiest ROM cooker there is.
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The link I provided is the easiest ROM cooker there is.
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thanks i will give it a try. Last time i tried something like this was slipstreaming a full OS build onto a machine that died on me. so im not overtly confident
krismcewan said:
thanks i will give it a try. Last time i tried something like this was slipstreaming a full OS build onto a machine that died on me. so im not overtly confident
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sorry but im a windows point and click guy and In not confident enough to do any cooking. its not as easy as a slipstream and i aint riskign my phone to play with it.
ill go back to WM5.
at least i know it works and doesnt bring my phone to a complete halt
Thanks for those of you who helped
dont run away so quickly, there are some decent roms in this forum, just have a look around, SCHAPS has some good one,s go for an earlier clean WM6 though one that's been hammered, and has some updates, for some reason he doesn't seem to want to provide updates to his latest Beta for 6.1.
There are a few other good full roms but its all about what you want to use the device for, I also just need a clean one not one that a chef has put all their fave apps in which bloats the build, I'm currently trying out the Shadow one which seams ok at the moment, main reason for that choice was that it states he has tweaked the bluetooth, what he's done I don't know..
and saying you've been searching since Friday... some of us have been searching for the wholy grail of ROMS for a while, I too am not a coder and don't want to brick my rom, no matter how good the destructions are, they invariably will be for the non uber geeks amongst us
Yes don't go to WM5. WM6 is much stable, dependable and you can find some good ROMs here. Though not officially launched, people here are cooking for WM6.1. It feels a bit strange to see you are going back to WM5.
Firstly decide the use of your Herms device.
Check out the applications the chefs are offering in their ROMs or you can use a clean ROM and instal cabs afterwards if you donot want to cook or expert in doing for yourself. It all depends on your personal preferences, but I feel you should not give preference to WM5 over WM6.
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dont run away so quickly, there are some decent roms in this forum, just have a look around, SCHAPS has some good one,s go for an earlier clean WM6 though one that's been hammered, and has some upda....
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I am tryin shaps 4.31 lit now.
im searching for windows live and htc home latest versioons so i can load them up.
krismcewan said:
All i need is a simple basic working rom and links to programs that i want.
I like some of the roms here but alot are over complicated with programs i would never need or want.
A basic WM6 with a tweak program and the , MSN, HTC and Office Patches all up to date wouild suffice. (oh and doesnt take up 80% of the storage card)
anyone point me in that direction please
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It doesn't have the 'latest and greatest', but hey, often the latest is not the greatest either...
Take a look at D-Lite and SuperD-Light.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320010&highlight=superd-light
has anyone noticed how much slower wm6 runs on the 8525? I have two friends who purchased 8525's after I did, and theirs run much quicker with the old wm5 roms on them. Mine looks cooler, and has better functionality, but it seems to hang for extended amounts of time sometimes. Like when I'm replying to a text message, or just sliding the keyboard out, waiting for the screen to change into lanscape mode.
Windows 6.1 seems alot faster. you might try looking into one of the 6.1 lites. I'm useing pays with some luck
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Windows 6.1 seems alot faster. you might try looking into one of the 6.1 lites. I'm useing pays with some luck
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i coulndt get pays one to run. the loader kept crashing.
i am using Schaps 4.31 but its really really slow
krismcewan said:
All i need is a simple basic working rom and links to programs that i want.
I like some of the roms here but alot are over complicated with programs i would never need or want.
A basic WM6 with a tweak program and the , MSN, HTC and Office Patches all up to date wouild suffice. (oh and doesnt take up 80% of the storage card)
anyone point me in that direction please
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You may not quite get that combination but one of the numerous lite ROMs on the board may well suit.
Myself I'd recommend using Mattk_r's Pandora 6 (WM6.0, not WM6.1) and using the 3.60 Big Storage ROM. Very nice, stable combination. That way you can add in just a couple of things.
WM 6.0 Kitchen: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316881
Or you could just use his 'Naked' ROM for 6.0 and add just a tweak prog from a cab.
WM 6.0 Naked ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351274
I went up to the Pandora Naked 7 Kitchen and 'naked' ROM (still WM6.0) for a while then into the 6.1 'naked' ROM and kitchen with Pandora 8 & 9. Now I'm back with the 6.0 Kitchen and the 3.60 Big Storage ROM.
krismcewan said:
i coulndt get pays one to run. the loader kept crashing.
i am using Schaps 4.31 but its really really slow
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I ran Schaps 4.01 Full for a while without too many problems, I have just installed this one, as a base ROM, there are a few minor issues with the launcher app but I don't use it anyway http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372118 seems reasonably fast can't comment on stability as I've only had it installed for an hour or so.
If you don't want all the tweaks and apps the ROM is offering just do a soft reset after you align the screen. Be sure to get a connection wizard then just pick and choose the apps you want. If you want a .CAB for something PM the person that has the ROM and ask for it.
I have been running the shaps 4.31 and although i like it its very very slow.
it keeps freezing and it takes ages to do anything.
I know no one believes me when i say i had less problems with WM5 but its that bad im seriously considering it.
I still have no way of putting the pays rom on as the loader always crashes.
Anyone else got a 6.1 rom that they recomend i can try.
try vp3g's it's very stable and not too many extras
Basically, I use my TYTN to take the odd picture, write stuff on WORD, play lots of games and browse using netfront, using a older ROM, will it make difference? also, because there is well over 100 roms for either, it would be nice to know a good rom, fast, not buggy, doesnt need hard resets very often, do any of you recommend a good rom? also, although i made a rom well over a year ago, which is the best (and noob-y friendly) kitchen to cook maybe a little rom dish of my own?
Any help given is appreciated.
Regards
The reason I ask is, I have been away from PDA's for well over a year
Thanks for any help
Hi, welcome back. There are many WM6.1 rom threads on page 1 for u to check out (forget the old wm6.0). Here's a thread post's info on the same question: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442159
6.1 vs 6.0
I like all the flash which is built into most of the newer (6.1) roms, but after trying most all of them have stayed with 6.0. The major reason is stability. I have not yet had a 6.1 rom go more than 4 days without needing a hard reset. For those who are into flashing frequently anyway, that's no big deal. But if you want a rom that works reliably, and that you can load up with software without worrying about having to reload everything after a hard reset, I'd stick with 6.0.
Best wishes all,
For the Hermes, I have to agree with Edhaas. 6.1 has never worked as solidly for me as 6.1. (My Athena is another matter.) If you can do without the threaded SMS, then stick with 6.0.
Two I recommend are:
Edhaas' SuperD-Lite (Most worry-free ROM of the 25 or so that I have flashed to the Hermes.)
Or Shamanix Ultimate V2 (Very solid with more polish than SuperD-Lite.)
And as far as Kitchens are concerned, I found the easiest to use was Matt's Pandora Kitchen. It has a lot of options to play around with, so don't expect to get things perfect the first time, but once it is set up it is dead easy to make a ROM.