i remember in my old tilt, I had to turn off aGPS so I could use my own maps. My US TMO TP2 does not have the aGPS under start-system-settings, and tweaking Schaps adv config 3.3 does not seem to do anything.
yes, I have netCF3.5, but somehow this setting is not sticking. is there any other program I need to install for the config changes to stick? I searched for the registry value to turn off aGPS and can't find it either.
hey, US TP2 guys, do you have the aGPS icon in settings? is it only me or diid they remove this so you have to use their paid nav?
Yes, I am interested in knowing this as well. I have QuickGPS, but no AGPS. I am not sure if my TP2 can even do AGPS.
My TP2 is from SEA.
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Why is it that you need a gps reciever to use with an XDA/XDA II? Is AGPS (AGPS triangulates position from the towers) not available for GSM?
There are 2 resons for not wanting to rely on gsm network tower info:
1. The info (cell broadcast) is not sent with every network
2. Its not close that precise as true gps
There is a swiss site that has made an application that uses network info for positioning.
Cant remember the name though
Some infos...
AGPS is called asissted gps, which means the GPS receiver ( which is still a piece of hardware, which is not included in current phones ) uses GSM location information to find it's poistion, this makes the GPS receiver "lighter" and faster.
This service will cost money, as the provider will not give the information for free.
GSM location info based on triangulation is something different, and indeed not very reliable.
Alex
Thanks
I was just curious. If you can remember the name of the swiss site that would be fantastic. I have the sense of direction similar to a cockroach with no head, so if it were to be accurate within 1/2 mile, that would be good enough for me. I don't need it soo bad that I have to buy a GPS, but if it were available by just installing some software, well that would be a different story. Anyway, thanks soo much again!
Found the site in my history:
http://gknavigation.de
(sorry: not swiss, it is in german . . .)
Look under 'Navig. Software'in the menu at the right side
a-gps default value
If any affects are known with changing the default value of agps in build.prop.superuser please let me know and also exactly what is the change doing to the hardware is there any benefit or should i stick with the default value of 2
manual agps config
Hi everyone
I'm new and a bit lost and overwhelmed being new to android.
I recently bought a Malata Zpad T6 with GPS and 3G running a Malata ROM of 2.2.
I'm having a few issues with the GPS. It works. I've used the GPS status app which picks up loads of satellites but Google maps is way off. (I live in northern Ireland and it shows my location as somewhere in the north sea.)
When I press the locate button with GPS module off/on Google maps says my location is unavailable.
Could someone give me some help please? Or guidance to sources that will help me.
I have a Orange UK sim in the pad so I'd like to use AGPS. Can I manually configure this? I'd read about the GPS.config file. Does anyone know if this can be manually set up?
Finally, sorry if I posted this in the wrong place. I've been searching xda for days trying to find a solution.
I'm using a
Hey!
So I upgraded to WM6 using Schapps' rom. So far so good, but I am really missing my connect / disconnect options from WM5 in the Today icons at the top of the screen. All they give me now is an option to go to the wireless manager.
How do I restore this much needed functionality? For example, when I launch IE or Opera by 3G / GPRS and then close the browser, I stay connected (with a little timer in the bubble). How come this no longer auto-disconnects? Also there is no option to force a disconnection from within the bubble.
Use shadowmite's tweak tool, this is a reg hack.
http://shadowmite.com/wiki/index.php/HTCustom
Hi, thanks for that, but I've got Schapps' Advanced Configuration tool in his ROM, which appears to closely resemble this. But there is nothing about the wifi balloon, nor is there anything about making 3G / GPRS auto-disconnecting. The "3G and GPRS disconnect and timer" option doesn't seem to work.
Edit: I don't really understand; why are reg hacks even needed to restore functionality that was in the previous version of WM? It seems like things are going backwards!!!
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Hi, thanks for that, but I've got Schapps' Advanced Configuration tool in his ROM, which appears to closely resemble this. But there is nothing about the wifi balloon, nor is there anything about making 3G / GPRS auto-disconnecting. The "3G and GPRS disconnect and timer" option doesn't seem to work.
Edit: I don't really understand; why are reg hacks even needed to restore functionality that was in the previous version of WM? It seems like things are going backwards!!!
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Those functions were unlocked using the exact same reg hack by carriers. They are disabled by default on all ROMs afaik.
Hi, I'll give the tweak tool a go once I get home. However I certainly did not have a countdown timer for 3G / GPRS when I had WM5. Is there no way to have an auto-disconnnect?
Also the tweak tool doesn't mention anything about the wifi balloon?
I know it's bad form to reply to one's own post, but just to crystallise this:
Why has my Wifi and 3G "Connnect / Disconnect" options in the icons at the top of the today screen (on the title bar), been replaced with a link saying, "wireless manager"?
And how do I get them back?
Okay looks like I may have found a solution. Please tell me the below is possible in WM6?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294987&highlight=flight+mode+bubble
Hi,
maybe this should help you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299075&highlight=bubble+fix
- but, I don´t know exactly why - for me it´s not working on Schaps c version - but could be only a problem of the german release.
Let me know if it works for you...
I changed back to Elf´s rom - this is the on that satisfies me most until now, btw. the bubblefix works prfectly on that one.
i use google maps a lot. In my previous device (Touch HD), using same SIM, I can find my location without GPS on, but generally, on the TP2 I cannot find my location without using GPS. I am on TMOB.
Anyone have a solution?
You got location fixes without GPS? As far as I know you have to have SOME form of GPS (be it GPS, aGPS, or quickGPS) to get a geographical position...
Quick search would have got you here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=551690
The location feature doesn't work on 3G for some reason, just GPRS & EDGE.
can you pls check the link
ha did i really link back to this thread? ouch, sorry. i was doing quite a few things when i replied.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547854&highlight=google+maps
If anyone is interested I have got A-GPS working on my TP2, unbranded standard WWE ROM, Vodafone UK network.
The steps performed are as follows (As always, Use at own risk, make sure you have a backup etc etc...)
Install T-Backs GPS fix http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=188959&d=1243353858
The CAB above sets the defaults for tha ATT network, the following settings are the ones I use, and should work anywhere (AFAIK).
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS]
"EnableAGPS"=dword:00000001
"GPSMode"=dword:00000002
"TLSHostName"="supl.nokia.com"
"ServerURL"="supl.nokia.com"
"Network"="internet"
"GPRSConnection"="Contract Internet"
"DynamicURL"="supl.nokia.com"
"APN"="internet"
"CloseConfirmMsgTime"=dword:00000000
"PrivacyMethod"=dword:00000000
"EnableLocInfo"=dword:00000001
"ServerPort"=dword:00000000
"EnabledPrivacyMethod"=dword:00000001
"QosPerformance"=dword:00000059
"QoSAccuracy"=dword:00000032
"TimeBetweenFixes"=dword:00000001
"NumberFixes"=dword:3b9ac9ff
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and
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL]
"AGPSNVSetting"=dword:00000001
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Note you will need to change the APN, network and GPRS connection to suit your network
This fix definatly works on my phone, I have analysed the debug logs and the NMEA logs and can see the data being downloaded and injected into the driver.
I now get a cold GPS fix in less than 20 seconds, whereas with AGPS turned off I could be waiting for 5 minutes or more for a cold fix.
To see if it is working on your Phone, first you should see a GPRS data connection established then using the HTC GPS test tool to examine the NMEA data you should see a $GPCELL entry after a few seconds.
Hope this helps.
Tom
hey Tom, something you might find of interest,
I had already set up my agps as you have said above with nokis.supl and my agps was workin great, after reading your post i changed the Reg setting for Ril/driver to 1 and SR ( mine was set to 5) as you suggested. and although i was still recieveing the NMEA info, i couldn't get a lock, changed it back to 5 and Lock from cold in 15 seconds!!
I don't know what the decimal 5 instructs and possibly its radio related? i am still using stock 3.44.25.25.27
Anyway great post
Frogfoot, how does the performance with A-GPS enabled compare to the performance with it disabled? How sure are you a) that A-GPS actually is enabled, and b) that it is A-GPS that is making the difference? I ask, because I can get a lock in 10 or 15 seconds with A-GPS turned off. Simply installing the GPS patch did that for me!
How does the performance with A-GPS enabled compare to the performance with it disabled
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I have found that I get a much faster lock when 'cold starting' the GPS, ie after the ephemeris data has expired (if you havent used the GPS for say a week) or you have changed location by say 50 miles since you last used GPS. Without aGPS a cold start would take several minutes, however with aGPS working it takes a matter of seconds. (there is no difference in a 'warm' or 'hot' start scenario).
How sure are you a) that A-GPS actually is enabled
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I installed the debug tools and could see the procedure calls reading the registry entries, opening the GPRS connection downloading the data etc. And I also used the HTC GPS tool to log the NMEA stream and searched through to find the response from the supl.nokia.com server in a string marked $GPCELL
I ask, because I can get a lock in 10 or 15 seconds with A-GPS turned off.
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I expect that what you are seeing is what is known as a 'warm start' where the GPS chipset has cached the Almanac and ephemeris data for the last known position and uses that to jump start the connection. That is fine untill you go for a long drive/flight with the GPS off and then it assumes you at the old location or there abouts. This can cause the GPS to think that the wrong satalites are overhead and therefore take longer to lock on. The other scenario which benifits from agps is if you dont use the GPS for a while, the cached Almanac and ephemeris data expires and needs to be downloaded again. This is what causes the long TTFF (time to first fix)
Quick GPS as far as I can gather is supposed to download predicted almanac and ephemeris data for your region and inject that into the GPS driver to facilitate a faster TTFF however I have yet to notice any difference when QuickGPS is up to date as opposed to it having expired data.
Hope this clears it up a bit.
Cheers
Tom
osrix25 said:
hey Tom, something you might find of interest,
I had already set up my agps as you have said above with nokis.supl and my agps was workin great, after reading your post i changed the Reg setting for Ril/driver to 1 and SR ( mine was set to 5) as you suggested. and although i was still recieveing the NMEA info, i couldn't get a lock, changed it back to 5 and Lock from cold in 15 seconds!!
I don't know what the decimal 5 instructs and possibly its radio related? i am still using stock 3.44.25.25.27
Anyway great post
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Very interesting, do you usually connect with GSM or 3G? I have only tested this with GSM, and have not experianced the problem you describe.
Tom
For completeness sake here are two useful apps for general GPS testing
CleanGPS.cab, very useful to reset the ephemeris and almanac data and HTC GPS Test tool for diagnosing GPS fix problems
Apologies if this has newbie written all over it... What would I need to change for this to be compatible with T-mobile US service? Looking at the cab registry keys, it looks like I should be fine as is.
Thanks!
Thought I would mention what I've been using on my TP, very similar with a nice cab.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478199&highlight=t-mobile+agps
The only thing you might wanna change is the connection settings to match the name of your data connection...
For the benefit of us newbies, could someone clarify what changes (if any) need to be made to the above registry values to get this working on O2 in the UK (if this is possible)?
Already test mine using agps setting from frogfoot, but it doesn't work on my TP2,
Frogfoot may i know what Radio version you used to enable AGPS on TP2
Thanks
I know my GRPS connection, but is there anybody know what is "APN"? How can I set it?
I found here the APN setting is empty.
hey i have a question. can anyone help? i unlocked my TP2 and got the internet to work. now im trying to get the GPS and MMS to work. ive tried everything but to no avail? The TP2 is running on ATT. can anyone help? Please? Pretty Please with Michelle Rodriguez on top?
what program are you using with gps? cant help with mms, i use tom tom and it works great.
well basically i unlocked the phone to run with ATT. it was originally a US Cellular unit. And ive gotten the data to work (finally thanks to you guys.) but i have not gotten to GPS to work. is there a certain COM setting that i need or something? MMS i have not gotten to work either. Im basically trying to set the phone up to work with ATT and im not sure what settings to use for the GPS or the MMS.
You still haven't answered the basic question of what program you are trying to get the GPS working on. Google Maps and Bing typically need no configuration in order to connect to the GPS.
One simple, free troubleshooting app is Visual GPSce (just Google it). Settings for the GPS are COM4 and 4800 baud. The app should quickly start seeing satellites once the GPS settings are entered. Otherwise you have something else going on.
I had a similar problem, and Visual GPSce did the trick for me.