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Telus Vogue Update finally here!

So Aaron McCarthy discovered a new Vogue rom for Telus users (I REPEAT: TELUS ONLY!!!). It was at one of the known IP addresses which HTC has used. It was accidentally leaked or opened for a tester, I suppose. It's also seemingly no longer available... I get "Directory Listing Denied" when I follow the link now. So, of course I've uploaded my copy to rapidshare. Back up any important files on your phone and then enjoy:
http://rapidshare.com/files/1282900...4350H_3.41.00_Ship_withPPSTPatch1.20.exe.html
It'll be easy to install, just run the EXE on your windows XP/Vista computer, connect your vogue with Activesync or Windows Mobile Device Center when the program prompts you to do so, and follow the on-screen instructions. It took me approximately 15 minutes to do this. Add five for letting the phone customize itself.
I also did some messing with it to get everything working. It does not fully function out of box (which is probably why it's not actually released yet).
For me, the steps that got the GPS and Internet to work:
-Dial *22803 , 1 (for English), 1 (program your handset). Wait for reset.
-Install Google Maps and a registry editor.
-Search for a registry key called GPSMODE and change it's dword value from 2 to 4. This may not be necessary, but it worked for me.
<EDIT>Registry change is definitely not necessary, I've tried it both ways with no different effect. What this setting does might be explained better in the next post.</EDIT>
-Soft reset.
-Run Google Maps and any other freeware, no problem.
I'm certain that some GPS programs will require initialization/tweaks, and I'd bet that most of those have already been examined elsewhere in this forum. Anyway the GPS is seemingly solid and accurate. I placed it next to a handheld garmin unit and speed, lattitude,longitude were matched on both devices over a half-hour trip. It will certainly NOT work indoors.
As for Rev.A, I honestly cannot tell you anything about it. I'm in a CDMA only area for the next 3 weeks.
Thanks again to Aaron McCarthy for discovering the Rom and letting us know so that I could copy it before we got locked out. Here's the thread he started : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2385096

by setting GPSMode to 4 you disable the GPS. Not the best idea....
GPSMode 1 = ONLY pure GPS
GPSMode 2 = GPS + aGPS
GPSMode 4 = aGPS only

Got it installed without any issues. However Google maps and the Telus Navigator programs don't seem to be able to find the GPS... Well, to be more precise, googlemaps doesn't give an error. It just sits there seeking satellites. The Telus NAV doesn't get past the startup screen. Any suggestions?
WM6.1 is working fine on my phone but is it possible that I actually don't have the built in GPS even though it is a Telus HTC Touch?

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=31437

guardianfox said:
So Aaron McCarthy discovered a new Vogue rom for Telus users (I REPEAT: TELUS ONLY!!!). It was at one of the known IP addresses which HTC has used. It was accidentally leaked or opened for a tester, I suppose. It's also seemingly no longer available... I get "Directory Listing Denied" when I follow the link now. So, of course I've uploaded my copy to rapidshare. Back up any important files on your phone and then enjoy:
http://rapidshare.com/files/1282900...4350H_3.41.00_Ship_withPPSTPatch1.20.exe.html
It'll be easy to install, just run the EXE on your windows XP/Vista computer, connect your vogue with Activesync or Windows Mobile Device Center when the program prompts you to do so, and follow the on-screen instructions. It took me approximately 15 minutes to do this. Add five for letting the phone customize itself.
I also did some messing with it to get everything working. It does not fully function out of box (which is probably why it's not actually released yet).
For me, the steps that got the GPS and Internet to work:
-Dial *22803 , 1 (for English), 1 (program your handset). Wait for reset.
-Install Google Maps and a registry editor.
-Search for a registry key called GPSMODE and change it's dword value from 2 to 4. This may not be necessary, but it worked for me.
<EDIT>Registry change is definitely not necessary, I've tried it both ways with no different effect. What this setting does might be explained better in the next post.</EDIT>
-Soft reset.
-Run Google Maps and any other freeware, no problem.
I'm certain that some GPS programs will require initialization/tweaks, and I'd bet that most of those have already been examined elsewhere in this forum. Anyway the GPS is seemingly solid and accurate. I placed it next to a handheld garmin unit and speed, lattitude,longitude were matched on both devices over a half-hour trip. It will certainly NOT work indoors.
As for Rev.A, I honestly cannot tell you anything about it. I'm in a CDMA only area for the next 3 weeks.
Thanks again to Aaron McCarthy for discovering the Rom and letting us know so that I could copy it before we got locked out. Here's the thread he started : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2385096
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will this work on a non gps telus touch?

foxatphoenixlabs said:
will this work on a non gps telus touch?
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It has been known since a while that all Vogues phones (or CDMA Touch) have the GPS hardware built in. It is just not activated by Telus yet.
This new ROM should be released officially by Telus soon in order to let users have GPS and better performance.

uggh canadians
uggh canadians they actually have cell phones
in canuckville
instead of "can"ada it should be
cant be n.e. duh ber
smiles guys just a joke i got jokes.cum

Rev A
Has anyone else tested to see if Rev A gives better performance?
Also, does this ROM improve Bluetooth and device overall performance?
Dave

its there
the place holder is up.. we can expect the official, offical release soon
http://www.htc.com/us/FAQ_Detail.aspx?p_id=80&act=sd

Thanks for this ROM. Can't be more easy to upgrade a ROM.
GPS is working fine. It took several try and a very clear sky (no tree) to make first connexion. It was so slow to connect that I suspect AGPS (cellular tower triangulation assist) is not working.
At 3 bars of reception, in EVDO REV A zone, I get a DL speed of 150 to 400kb/s which is pretty lame and just a bit better than before rev A.

One problem:
When clicking on status icons on the top bar (volume, battery, etc.), it used to display the control directly. Now it displays an intermediate screen repeating those icons but in a larger mode. It is buggy because it doesn't display message icons if I previously clicked Dismiss. Then I can't go to my messages.
In Start, Settings, System, TouchFLO, there is no setting to remove this screen.
I tried HKLM->Software->HTC->EnlargeTitleBar->Enable=0 without success.
Is it something that comes with WM6.1?
Is it Telus ROM specific?
Do Sprint official ROM got the same problem?
Any reg to remove this?

That is too funny
513fabe said:
uggh canadians they actually have cell phones
in canuckville
instead of "can"ada it should be
cant be n.e. duh ber
smiles guys just a joke i got jokes.cum
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Must be a red neck.
Must be Prez Bush's aide.
Must be unemployed, his job went overseas.
Alll,,just a joke....then don't post stupid jokes red neck.

If you go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406320&page=2 and go to post #14 you can see the guide to improving GPS locks on the telus rom. I mean DRASTICALLY. From initally loading the rom I went from getting 4-5 locks maybe after a few minutes on a cold GPS start then once I changed all the settings and did a soft reset I was getting 6 to 7 satellite locks down in my basement. Pretty impressive
It's not as complicated as it seems to be in the post I made. Pretty straight forward actually and I would recommend it to anyone who wants better GPS reception
In regards to Rev A speeds. I'm in London ontario so would think there would be rev A in the area but I dont get any better download speeds. I still download around 600-800 kbps. Which is really good enough for me. I dont know if rev A actually was supposed to increase your download speed or if it improved upload speeds making Voip easier and allowing you to have data and phone stuff going on at the same time. All I know is my internet speed didnt change but Rev A was enabled.

Aaron McCarthy said:
If you go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406320&page=2 and go to post #14 you can see the guide to improving GPS locks on the telus rom. I mean DRASTICALLY. From initally loading the rom I went from getting 4-5 locks maybe after a few minutes on a cold GPS start then once I changed all the settings and did a soft reset I was getting 6 to 7 satellite locks down in my basement. Pretty impressive
It's not as complicated as it seems to be in the post I made. Pretty straight forward actually and I would recommend it to anyone who wants better GPS reception
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Every time, before using this, an already established data connexion is needed BEFORE looking for GPS satellite. The GPS will not establish the connection if it's not there. A simple solution is to open Google map and move the map up to a download is required BEFORE making the GPS satellite connexion.

513fabe said:
uggh canadians they actually have cell phones
in canuckville
instead of "can"ada it should be
cant be n.e. duh ber
smiles guys just a joke i got jokes.cum
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yes i am in canada and now my internet doesnt work. poop.

redNeck
sailor_dude said:
Must be a red neck.
Must be Prez Bush's aide.
Must be unemployed, his job went overseas.
Alll,,just a joke....then don't post stupid jokes red neck.
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thats why i wear my hair
long...to cover my redneck*(~
....................canada has a navy? is it kept together with maple syrup?

For as small as our arms forces are (navy, Army, airforce) we actually have some of the best trained soldiers the world and some of the best equipped. Little known fact No that it has anything to do with the phone!

Looks like the official Telus rom is on HTC's site now.

Yep - and it appears to be identical to the one referenced in this thread from 3 weeks ago. That's kind of a disappointment considering how much trouble the tech-naive user is going to have getting the gps to work and getting their data connection back after flashing.

Shrink said:
Yep - and it appears to be identical to the one referenced in this thread from 3 weeks ago. That's kind of a disappointment considering how much trouble the tech-naive user is going to have getting the gps to work and getting their data connection back after flashing.
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Very lame.
Exact same files and version. http://www.htc.com/us/FAQ_Detail.aspx?p_id=80&act=sd
2 weeks ago I sent a support ticket to HTC stating that the GPS fix is difficult to get, mainly because all GPS assisted features (aGPS) are disabled by default in the radio (can't be fixed by a simple registry tweak). I even pointed them to one solution of many (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406320&page=2 post #14). Then no correction and not even a mention in the documentation.
I just can't imagine how many phone calls they will get from upgraders complaining that the GPS can't find satellites after 5 minutes...

A-gps or not?

I found some info about the TP2 and the TD2 that's confusing.
On htc's specification page of the TP2 and the TD2 it says that GPS is: Internal GPS antenna.
On Gsmarena.com it says:
TP2 GPS = Yes
TD2 GPS = Yes, with A-GPS support
Which gps device will the TP2 and TD2 have?
I've heard that some have had problems with the A-gps dropping satsync and that disabling the "A" solved this.
I previously had a Xperia which I got refunded because of the constant cracking backside.
The Xperia (A-gps) had a gps lag that wasn't fun at all.
When I compared the Xperia to my Mio P550 the xperia had a lag of roughly 30meters while the P550 had <5meters.
The P550 does not have an A-gps.
Which is better to have? Gps or A-gps?

Though it's not on the official sight, I could have sworn I saw somewhere it was AGPS. My understanding is that AGPS > GPS because it's using cell towers to assist it when satilite signal is low like in buildings and downtown areas.

Poke_N_PDA said:
Though it's not on the official sight, I could have sworn I saw somewhere it was AGPS. My understanding is that AGPS > GPS because it's using cell towers to assist it when satilite signal is low like in buildings and downtown areas.
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Htc lists the original touch diamond gps as a-gps, But on the original touch pro it's listed as Internal GPS antenna.
Is it only a typo? or do the original TD and TP have different gps devices installed?

As far as I remember AGPS is Assisted GPS that should start quicker as it is being assisted by phone network it self - it will know qucker the position you are in
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPS_Phone

Vipeone said:
As far as I remember AGPS is Assisted GPS that should start quicker as it is being assisted by phone network it self - it will know qucker the position you are in
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPS_Phone
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You are absolutely right about how the Agps works, but I already knew that
The question is wether the TD2 and TP2 are going to be equipped with Agps or not.

I remember the discussions when the mogul came out. The specs said the chips had agps in them. When ever the topic came up about if sprint would expose it to programs or if it could be hacked someone would come in and say,in their obnoxious condescending tone "The mogul **ONLY** has agps,not real gps so the answer to your question is the same as the last 100 times it was asked,NEVER!!!!"
Then sprint activated GPS for us.
AGPS is a superset of GPS btw,it has everything that a vanilla GPS chip has plus the ability to get information from the towers as well. So GPS is defiantly "better". As far as I know all the qualcomm chipsets have agps.

pflatlyne said:
I remember the discussions when the mogul came out. The specs said the chips had agps in them. When ever the topic came up about if sprint would expose it to programs or if it could be hacked someone would come in and say,in their obnoxious condescending tone "The mogul **ONLY** has agps,not real gps so the answer to your question is the same as the last 100 times it was asked,NEVER!!!!"
Then sprint activated GPS for us.
AGPS is a superset of GPS btw,it has everything that a vanilla GPS chip has plus the ability to get information from the towers as well. So GPS is defiantly "better". As far as I know all the qualcomm chipsets have agps.
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I had a Xperia that has the same qualcomm chip. It had a gps lag that was very annoying. HTC have used different ways of writing gps or agps in their specs on phones that have the qualcomm chip. That's why I asked this Q in the first place. But I don't think the gpslag is hardware related, it's more an issue of poor gps drivers.

As far as I know one can disable Assisted GPS in the register. You then keep GPS ...... so why should a phone with AGPS be worse then one with GPS. Again i believe when you disable the assisted part you keep the GPS
http://mobilitysite.com/2008/02/assisted-gps-2/
So in theory an AGPS system could be better. The only problem is that some software does not like the assisted part. I did disable ASSISTED gps in my registry and use the normal GPS with satisfaction in my Tytn 2.

dgh said:
As far as I know one can disable Assisted GPS in the register. You then keep GPS ...... so why should a phone with AGPS be worse then one with GPS. Again i believe when you disable the assisted part you keep the GPS
http://mobilitysite.com/2008/02/assisted-gps-2/
So in theory an AGPS system could be better. The only problem is that some software does not like the assisted part. I did disable ASSISTED gps in my registry and use the normal GPS with satisfaction in my Tytn 2.
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That's not the issue here...
I know what Agps is and how it works. So please do not post any links to www.agps.org or any other google on "how agps works.net"
Why did HTC use different names for the same chip? explain that instead.

the gps is not a spc chip it's in the qualcomm cpu along with 3g and wifi

will the touch pro be like the iphone, where you can go into maps and it will be of no additional cost other than the data plan, or will you have to subscribe to a gps data plan? anyone know or think they know?

EazyDeazy said:
will the touch pro be like the iphone, where you can go into maps and it will be of no additional cost other than the data plan, or will you have to subscribe to a gps data plan? anyone know or think they know?
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I don't get you. GPS costs nothing. Only internet and making calls, for that you have to get dataplan. No other costs.

quarintus said:
I don't get you. GPS costs nothing. Only internet and making calls, for that you have to get dataplan. No other costs.
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He probably was referring to some sort of maps/directions database subscription. I can't think of the name of any of them right now, but it's pretty common to get charged $10+ a month for stuff like that.
I assume the TP2's will work with Google Maps and you won't be required to subscribe to any database to get decent use out of the positional information the antenna provides.

emwdava said:
That's not the issue here...
I know what Agps is and how it works. So please do not post any links to www.aps.org or any other google on "how agps works.net"
Why did HTC use different names for the same chip? explain that instead.
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sorry mr. senior member

dgh said:
sorry mr. senior member
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No problem. I guess you got me on a bad day... sorry about that.

Hi guys,
Previous Kaiser owner here upgraded to Rhodium recently.
I'm asking HTC the same question as well, does Rhodium support AGPS or not. I'm quite sure it does - though I don't have a answer from them yet.
Check this link out from HTC support site - http://www.htc.com/sea/faqs.aspx?p_id=250&cat=266&id=92408

The touch pro 2 has agps but it disabled by default you have to enable it using advanced config 3.3 then it works very well cutting time to sync from 60 seconds to 15 seconds when opening google maps.
Jeremy

Google Maps and TMobile TP2 - cant get a good fix?

i use google maps a lot. In my previous device (Touch HD), using same SIM, I can find my location without GPS on, but generally, on the TP2 I cannot find my location without using GPS. I am on TMOB.
Anyone have a solution?

You got location fixes without GPS? As far as I know you have to have SOME form of GPS (be it GPS, aGPS, or quickGPS) to get a geographical position...

Quick search would have got you here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=551690
The location feature doesn't work on 3G for some reason, just GPRS & EDGE.

can you pls check the link

ha did i really link back to this thread? ouch, sorry. i was doing quite a few things when i replied.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547854&highlight=google+maps

A-GPS working on TP2

If anyone is interested I have got A-GPS working on my TP2, unbranded standard WWE ROM, Vodafone UK network.
The steps performed are as follows (As always, Use at own risk, make sure you have a backup etc etc...)
Install T-Backs GPS fix http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=188959&d=1243353858
The CAB above sets the defaults for tha ATT network, the following settings are the ones I use, and should work anywhere (AFAIK).
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS]
"EnableAGPS"=dword:00000001
"GPSMode"=dword:00000002
"TLSHostName"="supl.nokia.com"
"ServerURL"="supl.nokia.com"
"Network"="internet"
"GPRSConnection"="Contract Internet"
"DynamicURL"="supl.nokia.com"
"APN"="internet"
"CloseConfirmMsgTime"=dword:00000000
"PrivacyMethod"=dword:00000000
"EnableLocInfo"=dword:00000001
"ServerPort"=dword:00000000
"EnabledPrivacyMethod"=dword:00000001
"QosPerformance"=dword:00000059
"QoSAccuracy"=dword:00000032
"TimeBetweenFixes"=dword:00000001
"NumberFixes"=dword:3b9ac9ff
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and
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL]
"AGPSNVSetting"=dword:00000001
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Note you will need to change the APN, network and GPRS connection to suit your network
This fix definatly works on my phone, I have analysed the debug logs and the NMEA logs and can see the data being downloaded and injected into the driver.
I now get a cold GPS fix in less than 20 seconds, whereas with AGPS turned off I could be waiting for 5 minutes or more for a cold fix.
To see if it is working on your Phone, first you should see a GPRS data connection established then using the HTC GPS test tool to examine the NMEA data you should see a $GPCELL entry after a few seconds.
Hope this helps.
Tom

hey Tom, something you might find of interest,
I had already set up my agps as you have said above with nokis.supl and my agps was workin great, after reading your post i changed the Reg setting for Ril/driver to 1 and SR ( mine was set to 5) as you suggested. and although i was still recieveing the NMEA info, i couldn't get a lock, changed it back to 5 and Lock from cold in 15 seconds!!
I don't know what the decimal 5 instructs and possibly its radio related? i am still using stock 3.44.25.25.27
Anyway great post

Frogfoot, how does the performance with A-GPS enabled compare to the performance with it disabled? How sure are you a) that A-GPS actually is enabled, and b) that it is A-GPS that is making the difference? I ask, because I can get a lock in 10 or 15 seconds with A-GPS turned off. Simply installing the GPS patch did that for me!

How does the performance with A-GPS enabled compare to the performance with it disabled
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I have found that I get a much faster lock when 'cold starting' the GPS, ie after the ephemeris data has expired (if you havent used the GPS for say a week) or you have changed location by say 50 miles since you last used GPS. Without aGPS a cold start would take several minutes, however with aGPS working it takes a matter of seconds. (there is no difference in a 'warm' or 'hot' start scenario).
How sure are you a) that A-GPS actually is enabled
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I installed the debug tools and could see the procedure calls reading the registry entries, opening the GPRS connection downloading the data etc. And I also used the HTC GPS tool to log the NMEA stream and searched through to find the response from the supl.nokia.com server in a string marked $GPCELL
I ask, because I can get a lock in 10 or 15 seconds with A-GPS turned off.
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I expect that what you are seeing is what is known as a 'warm start' where the GPS chipset has cached the Almanac and ephemeris data for the last known position and uses that to jump start the connection. That is fine untill you go for a long drive/flight with the GPS off and then it assumes you at the old location or there abouts. This can cause the GPS to think that the wrong satalites are overhead and therefore take longer to lock on. The other scenario which benifits from agps is if you dont use the GPS for a while, the cached Almanac and ephemeris data expires and needs to be downloaded again. This is what causes the long TTFF (time to first fix)
Quick GPS as far as I can gather is supposed to download predicted almanac and ephemeris data for your region and inject that into the GPS driver to facilitate a faster TTFF however I have yet to notice any difference when QuickGPS is up to date as opposed to it having expired data.
Hope this clears it up a bit.
Cheers
Tom

osrix25 said:
hey Tom, something you might find of interest,
I had already set up my agps as you have said above with nokis.supl and my agps was workin great, after reading your post i changed the Reg setting for Ril/driver to 1 and SR ( mine was set to 5) as you suggested. and although i was still recieveing the NMEA info, i couldn't get a lock, changed it back to 5 and Lock from cold in 15 seconds!!
I don't know what the decimal 5 instructs and possibly its radio related? i am still using stock 3.44.25.25.27
Anyway great post
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Very interesting, do you usually connect with GSM or 3G? I have only tested this with GSM, and have not experianced the problem you describe.
Tom

For completeness sake here are two useful apps for general GPS testing
CleanGPS.cab, very useful to reset the ephemeris and almanac data and HTC GPS Test tool for diagnosing GPS fix problems

Apologies if this has newbie written all over it... What would I need to change for this to be compatible with T-mobile US service? Looking at the cab registry keys, it looks like I should be fine as is.
Thanks!

Thought I would mention what I've been using on my TP, very similar with a nice cab.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478199&highlight=t-mobile+agps
The only thing you might wanna change is the connection settings to match the name of your data connection...

For the benefit of us newbies, could someone clarify what changes (if any) need to be made to the above registry values to get this working on O2 in the UK (if this is possible)?

Already test mine using agps setting from frogfoot, but it doesn't work on my TP2,
Frogfoot may i know what Radio version you used to enable AGPS on TP2
Thanks

I know my GRPS connection, but is there anybody know what is "APN"? How can I set it?
I found here the APN setting is empty.

GPS problems in Europe

HI!!
I live in China and I was using garmin XT, which works pretty good.
now I'm in Europe with the right maps, but I can't get signal, normally I can see even more than 3 satellites but never get more than the 2 red bars in the signal indicator of Garmin, any idea? maybe some settings I need to check?.
I wrote them but I think is going to be faster here hehe, and I will be in Europe only 3 more days.
well I hope someone can help me!
cheers!!

update your quickgps but normally it should work fine if you got the correct map.

thanks!
yes is up to date, and any way even without the maps should at least get the proper signal right?
well I don't know, I'm little worry that maybe is a hardware problem,
anyone else has any idea?
cheers!!!

I am having the same issue with Garmin XT. I live in Norway and here i only get 3 satellites and no red bars.
Is this a issue with Garmin XT or my phone (Blackstone) not communicating correct with Garmin.
And, i have the quick gps updated.
paulove

mm, I just realize that is not only garmin, because I tried IGO and is the same, not enough satellites!

Hi,
you must check your time zone, if its incorrect gps wont work!
check it in windows setting and gps software setting. you must are configured in the same time zone that the country you are.
One day that problem append to me without travel. i was in paris and the winmo bug of time zone changing append, and my igo was down 2or3 satellites in view same you. After 3 day of searching i have checked time zone and it was wrong.
In iGo it was a setting for time zone in the Regional setting page be carreful of it if it wrong GPS wont work.
Thierry

thierryjc said:
Hi,
you must check your time zone, if its incorrect gps wont work!
check it in windows setting and gps software setting. you must are configured in the same time zone that the country you are.
One day that problem append to me without travel. i was in paris and the winmo bug of time zone changing append, and my igo was down 2or3 satellites in view same you. After 3 day of searching i have checked time zone and it was wrong.
In iGo it was a setting for time zone in the Regional setting page be carreful of it if it wrong GPS wont work.
Thierry
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thanks, I check it, and well, the time zone was OK, but not the place, I corrected it but nothing change, Garmin find the satellites really fast, but normally 3 some times 4 but is not enough still shows me 2 red bars in the signal indicator.
any other idea? please!!, becasue if is a hardware problem, I will need to change my phone, but I bought it in China and in China works, then they are not going to replace it!.
thanks in advance!

Gps Fix
I had similar problem going from Italy to Canary island and using IGO8. The fix appened, more or less casually, using Google maps : I got the position and the map. Then, when I tried again with Igo8, after a short time, i got a fix. Bye

tavazzi said:
I had similar problem going from Italy to Canary island and using IGO8. The fix appened, more or less casually, using Google maps : I got the position and the map. Then, when I tried again with Igo8, after a short time, i got a fix. Bye
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thanks!, I didn't really want to buy a sim card hehe, but I will try your advice!